I'm slowly coming to terms with the fact that the game industry seems to be heading towards 3d as their next "big thing", even though I detest it so. I'm accepting that it probably won't go away any tine soon so unless 3D are once again seen as a gimmick and thrown aside, I'll probably start to see 3D taking over in the decades to come.
But that's not the reason I personally don't like Face Ace. The concept is sound and it does sound like it could be fun to play, even with the 3D(which is the appeal for it I suppose). No, my problem with it, along with any other game that takes whatever you're pointing the cameras at into account, is that you'll look like an idiot spinning in circles carrying a DS around, pointing it at things like crotches in order to get a giggle over stuff flying out of them. That doesn't really appeal to me. :/
@Cramsy: Ryan is a bit of a console and more specifically Microsoft only guy though. This is a pretty weird set of games to have as your "top 5" from E3.
Personally I would have had Kirby's Epic Yarn but the rest of the games on that list looked pretty average and to not have Portal 2 on there is a sin.
@ptys: Brotherhood isnt the final game in the trilogy its just a spin off of Assassins Creed 2. Its not going to finish the overall story just continue Ezio's story. Ezio is probably not going to be in Assassins Creed 3 which will probably finish the main story. People are okay with the game because it looks good and we know that there still going to put alot of time into Assassins Creed 3 so were not worried.
@Microshock: People like feedback, especialy non-judgmental points earning feedback. Whilst what you say is true I can't see many people persuading their mates that sticking on a pop video and dancing alot would be a great party game. Dance Central with it's neutral referee and instant feedback though might be an option. For me both new control sets are too expensive with too little going for them right now.
" What the hell is the big deal for Dance Central? It's basically a music video where you follow along. I'm sure theres plenty of 10 dollar DVD's that do it instead of 150 dollars for Kinect and then 60 for Dance Central "
Maybe, but it was still super-fun. "
Do you think it's going to have the staying power that games like Rock Band do? Cause I don't think it'll be played after a week or two. And they're wanting to charge upwards of 3 dollars per DLC song for the game.. I don't know. Doesn't sound like a killer app to me, but you never claimed it either, which is good "
Well, Harmonix explained in an interview with Jeff that all DLC songs would include new dance routines, so it's not as much focused on the music itself, but on learning new choreography and moves. I think that's a great way to keep it fresh and interesting. You have a good point on the DVD-stuff, but those won't give you any response or interface on what you're doing wrong like this game does.
Can't say I'm the targeted audience since I'm more of a core gamer and prefer traditional games. But still, I love dancing, and Dance Central definitely piqued my interest since it encourages you to use your whole body and focus on actual moves, instead of goofing around on a mat or waving controllers. Also, Ryan seems to enjoy it, that's huge plus. Though, I'm hoping they'll include some subgenres of electronic dance music, not really a huge fan of RnB, but I guess it's the natural starting point.
Anyway, great list Ryan. Off topic, will you invite Gunnar Johansson to the Bombcast again? Never gets old listening to you guys screaming in anguish as you're chewing down Swedish "delicacies".
I have hope for Super Scribblenauts as well, and I agree that Kirby's Epic Yarn looked awesome. The new Assassin's Creed I'm divided on, but hopeful.
That said, I still don't understand all the gaming media buzz over Dance Central. In concept and execution it just seems to fall flat to me. When I saw it, I thought it was hilarious, in that hilariously bad kind of way. I expected it to top off everyone's "they actually thought this was a good idea? lol" lists from E3, not people actually think it was a good game. I just don't understand it, especially not with a pretty large price tag to entry (Assuming most casual gamers don't have a 360 already, that's several hundred dollar investment for one game).
" What the hell is the big deal for Dance Central? It's basically a music video where you follow along. I'm sure theres plenty of 10 dollar DVD's that do it instead of 150 dollars for Kinect and then 60 for Dance Central "
Maybe, but it was still super-fun. "
Do you think it's going to have the staying power that games like Rock Band do? Cause I don't think it'll be played after a week or two. And they're wanting to charge upwards of 3 dollars per DLC song for the game.. I don't know. Doesn't sound like a killer app to me, but you never claimed it either, which is good "
I suppose the biggest thing for me is the user feedback and the 'game' aspect. I can't speak for Ryan, but you mention these DVDs and they don't show you what you are doing wrong. They don't make a game out of it. They don't make it potentially competitive. The game is using Kinect to find out what you are doing and give you a response, whether that's through score or the red parts on the dancers. Something you don't get with a flat, one way experience on a DVD.
That's what makes it, well, a game. It doesn't have to be a killer app when, as Ryan says, it's still super-fun.
" What the hell is the big deal for Dance Central? It's basically a music video where you follow along. I'm sure theres plenty of 10 dollar DVD's that do it instead of 150 dollars for Kinect and then 60 for Dance Central "
Maybe, but it was still super-fun. "
Do you think it's going to have the staying power that games like Rock Band do? Cause I don't think it'll be played after a week or two. And they're wanting to charge upwards of 3 dollars per DLC song for the game.. I don't know. Doesn't sound like a killer app to me, but you never claimed it either, which is good "
I'd say you're missing the point. It's not a list of "what are the most influential games of E3", or "What will revolutionize the industry and become big holiday sellers." It's a list of "What Ryan had the most fun with at E3." Who gives a fuck about its staying power right now beyond Harmonix themselves and fucknuts with nothing better to think about?
@Fjordson: I agree, so many more impressive things than DC this E3, but most of his other choices I can agree with, lots of really cool stuff this year. Even if 3D and movement stuff don't tickle your fancy (like me)
There's quite a lot of disinterest towards Dance Central in here, which probably isn't surprising considering it's not a traditional sort of game. It's in my top five, though, and I thought it looked pretty awesome.
Kind of an underwhelming show for people who didn't go I guess. Watching E3 stuff and reading about what everyone finds exciting makes me feel so disconnected. I suppose that for most of these things you'll just have to get a hands on to understand what is so great about it. The only stuff that really stood out to me were traditional games.
I have a picture of Dance Central that it is just going to be a list of current radio hits. If the game doesn't have "Dancing with Myself" by Generation X, then I will be severely disappointed in Harmonix.
" Kind of an underwhelming show for people who didn't go I guess. Watching E3 stuff and reading about what everyone finds exciting makes me feel so disconnected. I suppose that for most of these things you'll just have to get a hands on to understand what is so great about it. The only stuff that really stood out to me were traditional games. "
The reason I pay attention to gamer centric media, like E3 coverage, is to be more informed and feel connected. And even though I want to experience these things for myself, I still have a good idea, and imagination, of what's what to get excited--especially this year's E3. What an amazing show.
Great picks, Ryan. I'm looking forward to all of them except Face Ace. But that's only because I don't see lasting appeal to it and doubt it'll be expanded into an actual product.
Having games with the world "Epic" in, will not make the game "Epic". Kirby does look interesting, but I can't say I am too impressed with Epic Mickey. If they wanted to put the word Epic in any game thou Dance Central would have to be my choice.
@RobJ: I think you seriously should put more faith in Harmonix. They wont just put in songs just because they are populer now. Whit them, gameplay comes first, meaning that they will only be songs in it that are great for dancing.
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