EA Launches New Digital Retail Service, Makes It the Sole Way to Purchase Star Wars: The Old Republic Online

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#51 Posted by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

Not using it

#52 Posted by Dhutch (42 posts) -
@TadThuggish: Wait, so because I use Steam, I suddenly can't use any other online service?  Man, that SUCKS!  Or I could just make a quick Origin account, download TOR, aaanndd.... What was the problem again?  Oh right- TOR's actually looking like kinda garbage.  As for anyone taking over WOW for any reason?  Not likely for AT LEAST another year or two.
#53 Posted by Venatio (4482 posts) -
@Brenderous said:

Uhhh.. So everyone else knows what's happening here right? 
 
The Ori have taken over EA and are trying to spread the word about the path of Origin to our planet. If we don't accept and say "Hallowed are the Ori", they'll mount a crusade and purge us all. 
 
Only one man can save us.  

Love the Stargate reference :D that episode was damn amazing
 
First off, we have to stop their priors, they'll probably show up at E3
#54 Posted by Galiant (2179 posts) -

That won't last. I'll stick to Steam, thanks.

#55 Posted by Teaspoon83 (623 posts) -

The only problem I see here is the lack of a TF2 hat you would receive if you pre-ordered TOR from Steam. Oh well... 
 
But really, may I remind you that Blizzard Entertainment has successfully ran Battle.net and World of Warcraft with no need of assistance from Valve and the Steam service. If you seriously want to play The Old Republic, you'll buy it from them. If you hate EA and their digital offerings that much, buy the physical copy, plug in the CD Key online and have it backed up for later. Either way, just load the Launcher from Steam and launch the game from there. 

#56 Posted by warmonked (349 posts) -

I miss the Origin Systems of old :(

#57 Posted by MichaelBach (876 posts) -
#58 Posted by Shivoa (607 posts) -

I wonder if anyone still remembers the first launch of the EA online store and the way they charged you extra for the right to re-download the installer (after 3 months) for the games you purchased.  Yep, buying a game and not having the ability to download it again because you didn't stump for the extra online fee. 
 
Unless it's a £5 deal I think I'll stick to keeping my digital games locked to Steam or GOG just in case EA decide that the best way to help their bottom line is to remove my access to my games some day in the future.  When you're selling people a digital license to access content then trust really is a key issue and I'm yet to hear EA explain away that previous policy in a way that makes it very clear they understand what they were doing was wrong.

#59 Posted by AgentofChaos (1565 posts) -

Steam took a big foothold when they had a big release too! Only then it was Half Life 2.

#60 Posted by ChrisTaran (1565 posts) -

I'll stick to my box buying ways.

#61 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@PhatSeeJay said:
@Generic_username said:
The last EA download service was awful, wasn't it...? Or am I wrong?
I have Mass Effect 2, Sims 3, Crysis 2 and Medal of Honor there and I have no issues with it.  Anyway. I just reinstalled Origins and it looks no different from the new features they added in EA DLM. Friends list and so on. Not seeing anything different so far. 
ORIGIN, not Origins - as in the company called Origin Systems founded by Richard Garriot which EA bought in like '92 from which sprang Ultima, Wing Commander and other properties.  Origin made Ultima Online, the daddy of all MMOs which is why they are using the name to sell SW : ToR.
#62 Posted by Bollard (5248 posts) -

I don't want 18 different clients to play games from different publishers thanks.

Online
#63 Posted by TinyGallon (193 posts) -

How can you spend $80 million on a game and not sell it through retail???

#64 Posted by 014 (347 posts) -

I didn't have any issues getting Bad Company 2 from the EA digital store. That said, the hard drive that the installation media is on hasn't died yet. And who in the world wants to back up installation media? That stuff is huge.  Think of this. To be safe, you need to have two copies of the installation media on separate drives. That's a lot of space. Now, include the space of the actual game once it's installed. We are talking a least 3x as much space needed with Origin as with Steam. Do I back up Steam games? Hell no. That's one of Steam's benefits.
 
I fear losing Bad Company 2 someday. Hard drives don't last forever, and I am only keeping a single copy of the installation media. Because of that hogwash, I do not want to be limited to getting Battlefield 3 from Origin. I'm thankful they're only going to make a special edition of it exclusive to Origin.

#65 Posted by librariangmr (178 posts) -

When I saw the headline, I thought EA was bringing back Origin Systems and create a new Wing Commander game. Sigh.

#66 Posted by Rolyatkcinmai (2682 posts) -

I'll still be buying EA stuff through Steam. 
 
If EA starts to have better deals or gives me a valid reason to buy through them, I'll consider it. If they try to pull the whole limited downloads, shitty speeds, shitty prices, shitty patching thing they've done before they can lick a dick.

#67 Posted by wewantsthering (1551 posts) -

If it's not on Steam and it's on PC, I won't buy it.

#68 Posted by PhatSeeJay (3322 posts) -
@TinyGallon said:
How can you spend $80 million on a game and not sell it through retail???
It is sold through retail, it's just exclusive to Origin on digital distribution. Read the entire article.
 
@SeriouslyNow: Oh dear lord I am sooo sorry for accidentally adding the s in my post. I know it's called Origin, for the love of.  
#69 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@PhatSeeJay said:

@SeriouslyNow: Oh dear lord I am sooo sorry for accidentally adding the s in my post. I know it's called Origin, for the love of.  
Don't apologise to me.  Grovel at the throne of Lord British, ruler of all Britannia.
#70 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4630 posts) -

The Wire was average, and your references don't make you look cool and/or intelligent.

#71 Posted by StingingVelvet (569 posts) -

I hope for more competition for Steam so this is a good thing.  I also like the new client, just installed it and it works well.
 
I buy boxed games still, so I won't be using it much, but I welcome a new push for PC gaming from EA and competition for Steam.  Monopolies are bad people, no matter how much you might like Steam or Valve or whoever else.

#72 Posted by SlasherMan (1725 posts) -

Competition is always good for the consumer. That said, I don't know that this is at all going to be able to compete effectively against Steam, especially if EA don't step up their service quality.

#73 Posted by Floppypants (798 posts) -

I'm no huge EA fan, but I have no problem with more companies competing with Steam for my gaming dollar.  Bring the deals.
 
Also, there's nothing wrong with what EA is doing with Old Republic.  You don't see WoW on Steam either.

#74 Posted by Hef (1097 posts) -

Unless origin proves to be as good as if not better than steam, I am not using it.  I wasn't really planning on buying the old republic, but if I do, it'll be through eb games.  There's no way in hell I'm supporting this when I already have steam guard, automatic updates, integrated brower, friends lists and cloud saves.  I already went through this crap when I bought the Saboteur.  I had to download some stuipd external program that I never ended up using for anything afterwards.

#75 Posted by ninja_lazorz (4 posts) -

nooooooooooooooooooo

#76 Edited by durog (219 posts) -

good, competition makes the market better. 1 cent games from steam, yay!

#77 Posted by THRICE (167 posts) -

Why can't they just accept that Steam is *the* way to get PC games now and stop making it a hassle on consumers. I think Blizzard shouldn't gate there stuff off via Battle.Net purchasing wise but at least there is functionality in that it at least effectively eliminates DRM and places everything on an account to account basis.

#78 Posted by TadThuggish (904 posts) -
@Dhutch said:
@TadThuggish: Wait, so because I use Steam, I suddenly can't use any other online service?  Man, that SUCKS!  Or I could just make a quick Origin account, download TOR, aaanndd.... What was the problem again?  Oh right- TOR's actually looking like kinda garbage.  As for anyone taking over WOW for any reason?  Not likely for AT LEAST another year or two.
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES 
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
#79 Posted by MisterMollusk (400 posts) -
@GunslingerPanda: yikes
#80 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7613 posts) -
@wewantsthering said:
If it's not on Steam and it's on PC, I won't buy it.
And that is exactly why we need more competition like this. 
Don't let Steam become a monopoly.
#81 Posted by MisterMollusk (400 posts) -

I didn't see any digital distribution sales on the site, and there hard copy prices are easily beat by Amazon. They're going to have to cut prices and have sales if they want to be competitive.

#82 Posted by wewantsthering (1551 posts) -
@WinterSnowblind said:
@wewantsthering said:
If it's not on Steam and it's on PC, I won't buy it.
And that is exactly why we need more competition like this. Don't let Steam become a monopoly.
I should clarify, I just don't want to buy anything directly from EA. :-) I wouldn't mind if someone else launched a competing download service. Also I don't like that they will only sell it on their service. I would be okay with them having it on both, but making it a better deal on their own service. I have all of my friends list, games, etc on Steam so I don't have a compelling reason to leave the platform. I have no interest in investing any money into a EA product as I have had some major problems with their downloadable services in the past.
#83 Posted by FractalLaw (15 posts) -

Is anyone else a little bothered by the name? Or a lot bothered, for that matter. There are a lot of old school PC gamers out there who have never forgiven EA for what they did to Origin Systems, and this feels a little like they are twisting the knife.

#84 Posted by SomeJerk (3141 posts) -

Will they let people download their games purchased via the service whenever they want, even years after, like Steam does, or will they be aholes about it again?

#85 Posted by Norusdog (340 posts) -

of fucking course

#86 Posted by Dunkelheit (47 posts) -

TL;DR. but i don't think i care for either at this point especially with Guild Wars 2 coming out sometime. i suppose competition is good but just sick of all the fucking exclusivity shit: services, dlc, etc

#87 Posted by mcdrew77 (114 posts) -

It is plain silly to say if it is not on steam then I wont play it. More Competition for Steam if it is as easy to use as Steam is a good thing. It has be on Steam level of portability and usability otherwise it wont last. Competition forces innovation, Madden vs. 2k was a good thing for us consumers.

#88 Posted by valrog (3671 posts) -

Everyone wants their own digital distribution service nowadays...

#89 Posted by HairyToeKnuckles (123 posts) -
@Funkydupe said:
Microtransactions vendor spotted!
"BINGO!" 
 -Gary Oldman
#90 Posted by Korolev (1700 posts) -

It might work if the site sells purely EA stuff. I don't think it can take down Steam though. 
 
It doesn't matter - I'll go with what's cheapest. If Steam have BF3 cheaper than on the EA store, then I'll get it on Steam. If the EA store has it cheaper, I'll get it there. I'm going to let the market solve this one folks. Or, maybe, I'll get legitimate steam codes from some Eastern European Site for way cheaper. I got BFBC2 for 30 bucks a month after it came out.

#91 Posted by Hagane (55 posts) -

Good thing I'm done with MMOs.

#92 Posted by Brenderous (1097 posts) -
@Venatio said:
@Brenderous said:

Uhhh.. So everyone else knows what's happening here right? 
 
The Ori have taken over EA and are trying to spread the word about the path of Origin to our planet. If we don't accept and say "Hallowed are the Ori", they'll mount a crusade and purge us all. 
 
Only one man can save us.  

Love the Stargate reference :D that episode was damn amazing  First off, we have to stop their priors, they'll probably show up at E3
Brother, we must band together against this most heinous foe.
#93 Posted by umdesch4 (772 posts) -

I'm in Canada, you insensitive clods!
 
Yeah, so when I downloaded Portal 2 off of Steam, I used around 7-8% of my entire family's monthly bandwidth cap. With all the E3 video streaming I'll be doing online this month, that means the only games I'll be buying will be retail boxes, 'cuz I can't afford the extra GBs.
 
Sometimes I feel like I live in a 3rd world country...and this EA store won't make any kind of real difference to me...

#94 Posted by NickLott (792 posts) -

It'll be funny if Valve give EA a "fuck you" by partnering with other companies for retail distribution.  
 
Even a bigger "fuck you" is if they get published by Activision. 

#95 Posted by christ0phe (952 posts) -

Did anyone really think this game was going to succeed.  Making MMO's is so dumbbb

#96 Posted by Deathpooky (1374 posts) -

After the terrible experience I had with my one attempt to download an EA game off their old service, I think it's going to take more than a rebranding for them to try to get me back. 
 
And there always need to be more reference to The Wire.

#97 Edited by Deathpooky (1374 posts) -
@WinterSnowblind said:

@wewantsthering said:

If it's not on Steam and it's on PC, I won't buy it.

And that is exactly why we need more competition like this. Don't let Steam become a monopoly.
Steam will never be a true monopoly.  If Steam ever starts sucking, then it's pretty easy for a competitor to start up a service or take over an existing service and drag customers away by promising better stuff (see above).
 
The problem is that every service that's ever tried to compete with Steam has been incredibly worse in terms of price, ease of use, customer support, and pretty much every other area you'd judge a service like this.  That's not a monopoly, that's just being the best in the business.  There's no reason to support a worse service just for the sake of competition.  Competition is supporting a better service when it comes along.
 
And undoubtedly EA's service is going to be far worse than Steam, except for having exclusivity over games they publish.  If the best thing you can say about your download service is "it's the only way to buy X game" that isn't engendering any goodwill.  That's just trying to force people to use your crappy download platform.
#98 Posted by demonbear (1859 posts) -

@alex  Ok now I feel like watching The Wire again, THANKS!!!

#99 Posted by JoeyRavn (4948 posts) -

Keeping in touch with the relevance of games like Battlefield 3 or Call of Duty these days, let me put my opinion about this new attempt at debunking Steam: you're shooting yourself in the foot, EA. But you know what? I don't care. Go ahead and do whatever you want.

PS: The new editor is awesome :D

#100 Posted by raiz265 (2233 posts) -

remember when everybody hated steam?

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