Joystiq reports that the Eidos reorganization is done and they are renamed Square Enix Europe.  For the rest of the details, click the link.  Also, what do you guys think about the name?  Cool? Stupid?

To be honest I'm not so sure what to think. Since it's just a name change I guess there isn't really much to say is there?

I like the new name. Not sure I'd want to have my games branded under the Eidos name if I were the big-wigs in Square Enix, so it makes sense. The quality of the games needs to be ramped up, so it's kind of a wait-and-see for me.

Only things I get from Square Enix are numbered Final Fantasy's that aren't MMOs and from Eidos, uh, nothing really. So good news all around.

I like the new name. Square Enix definitely has a better reputation than Eidos.

Should this page be renamed now that the company is renamed? Or will it look weird on all the pages for games that have been published by Eidos in the past?
 
For example: The Batman: Arkham Asylum page will say that it was published by Square Enix Europe when it says Eidos on the box.

" and from Eidos, uh, nothing really. So good news all around. "

" Should this page be renamed now that the company is renamed? Or will it look weird on all the pages for games that have been published by Eidos in the past?  For example: The Batman: Arkham Asylum page will say that it was published by Square Enix Europe when it says Eidos on the box. "

We are in help...of a mod.

" @Forcen said:

" Should this page be renamed now that the company is renamed? Or will it look weird on all the pages for games that have been published by Eidos in the past?  For example: The Batman: Arkham Asylum page will say that it was published by Square Enix Europe when it says Eidos on the box. "

Hmmm......  Technically we should rename the page or we could make a new one for it. "

" @JJOR64:    A smart one as the Eidos reputation was in much worse state than Square Enix, after all the review scandals and the poor tomb raider games.    And Square Enix is a trusted trademark. "

" @Godwind:   They did, but they have a lot of talent nevertheless. "

Eidos was no longer a brand to be excited about, this is probably a good thing.

Eidos might get some more attention with this new name, they really need it since their reputation hasn't been that good.

I guess the chance of a Legacy of Kain sequel is dead in the water now...well it always was, but the hope is now gone.

" @Godwind:   Yep, i stand by it.  And you are right... but i think that the decrease in quality happens because they are doing something that, besides Atlus, not many japanese companies are doing it.  Inovation.  "

" @Godwind: i think they are testing so much because they want to bring what worked and innovate the final fantasy franchise. "

" @Godwind: it's similar to what Namco Bandai did with tales of vesperia.   They tested on the xbox360 and then released the final version the ps3.  At least squares realeases a new game with each test. lol "

Square Enix logo on my Hitman V? NOOO!

It's a good move for both companies, but I miss the days it was just Square. Every time they acquire another studio they add a word to the name. One day we'll have games presented by "Square Enix Europe Freestyle BlackBox Hoochie-Coochie Misnomer." I can't wait.  :P

Square Enix Sucks.  Eidos sucks.  What are they gonna do now?  Make Kane and Lynch Fantasy 14?

" @Godwind:   Namco concerning Tales of Vesperia said that released on the xbox 360 so they get financed to bring it to the ps3, so you can say they tested it first on the xbox.  "

" @Godwind:     About square, i liked the final fantasy XII, though many appear to dislike it. "

I have a lot of bad memories which I affiliate with the Eidos name. Project Snowblind anyone? 
 
So them using a new name will make it so that I dont immediately judge their games negatively.

" Only things I get from Square Enix are numbered Final Fantasy's that aren't MMOs and from Eidos, uh, nothing really. So good news all around. "

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@Jeust said:

" @Godwind:   Namco concerning Tales of Vesperia said that released on the xbox 360 so they get financed to bring it to the ps3, so you can say they tested it first on the xbox.  "

  No, they developed a game for one platform to finance the port of the same game to another platform.
 
 @Jeust said:

" @Godwind:     About square, i liked the final fantasy XII, though many appear to dislike it. "

   Liking a game and measuring its quality is two different games.  I have had fun with many games that are pieces of crap.  They have been able to make great games without having to test the waters.  A good developer is able to implement a game with good ideas. "

I smell money. Eidos has lots to offer in names, let the games begin.

" @rjayb89 said:

" Only things I get from Square Enix are numbered Final Fantasy's that aren't MMOs and from Eidos, uh, nothing really. So good news all around. "

If you have only played FF from Square Enix, you really should play Chrono Trigger it is, in my opinion the greatest JRPG ever made. "

" @Jeust said:

" @Godwind:   They did, but they have a lot of talent nevertheless. "

A lot of FORMER talent.  You are the guy that said they like Metroidvania style castlevania over the older games due to the "inclusion of a storyline."  Don't get me wrong, they have made a lot of great games.  However, ever since the merger, never been the same.  Keep in mind that Enix's greatest games came from developers outside of the company such as Tri-Ace and Quintet. "

" @Godwind: it's similar to what Namco Bandai did with tales of vesperia.   They tested on the xbox360 and then released the final version the ps3.  At least squares realeases a new game with each test. lol "

" @Symphony:   I love a good conspiracy theory.  But from what i read it add up pretty well.  Then why is the name of the game the same, if there is so much new content?  Maybe a indication that it belongs there... :p  "

I'll be blunt: Good Riddance. 
 
Eidos has a lot of great properties under their belt, I am supportive of Square's takeover. In their final days, Eidos made a ton of...let's be blunt again: Stupid decisions. The Kane and Lynch fiasco practically ruined any form of reputation they had, as well as taint an entire profession which wounds I don't think will ever fully heal. They pushed Tomb Raider: Underworld during an over-crowded holiday season, and hoped for returns from that title that were pretty ridiculous. There were of course, other properties they simply ignored.
 
Where was I?
 
I don't think it's just a name change, but even if it was, it still helps. I think over time, this will be win/win. Square desperately needs a reality check on how to keep current against western game development, overtime I think this acquisition will have it's positives. There's also the possibility of a joint project of some-sort, and my personal nerd hope: a western take on Final Fantasy, which regardless of quality is simply just something I want to see, the concept fascinates me :P 
 
@Symphony said:

" @Jeust said:

" @Symphony:   I love a good conspiracy theory.  But from what i read it add up pretty well.  Then why is the name of the game the same, if there is so much new content?  Maybe a indication that it belongs there... :p  "

Because it's coming out on a different console but it IS ultimately the same game.... There's no need to embellish on the title when there isn't a similarly named title already existing on the console. Trusty Bell / Eternal Sonata didn't get a new name when it was released on the PS3, nor did the expansions for GTA or Fallout 3...  edit: I can has grammar? "

"@Symphony said:

" @Jeust said:

" @Symphony:   I love a good conspiracy theory.  But from what i read it add up pretty well.  Then why is the name of the game the same, if there is so much new content?  Maybe a indication that it belongs there... :p  "

Because it's coming out on a different console but it IS ultimately the same game.... There's no need to embellish on the title when there isn't a similarly named title already existing on the console. Trusty Bell / Eternal Sonata didn't get a new name when it was released on the PS3, nor did the expansions for GTA or Fallout 3...  edit: I can has grammar? "

Oh, for godsake. Both of you! Grrrr!/Barking noise
 
Sony requires developers to add extra content to you port if it was not released at the same time as a traditional multi-platform title. If your game has taken a year to be released on the PS3, tough luck, start making extra content for it. 
Examples: Bioshock, Alone in the Dark, insert title here.
Yes, there were portions of Vesperia's content that was planned, removed, and then added in for the PS3 release. This happens all the time in game development, Namco simply had an opportunity to add it back in. There is no conspiracy theory.  "

" @vidiot said:

"@Symphony said:

" @Jeust said:

" @Symphony:   I love a good conspiracy theory.  But from what i read it add up pretty well.  Then why is the name of the game the same, if there is so much new content?  Maybe a indication that it belongs there... :p  "

Because it's coming out on a different console but it IS ultimately the same game.... There's no need to embellish on the title when there isn't a similarly named title already existing on the console. Trusty Bell / Eternal Sonata didn't get a new name when it was released on the PS3, nor did the expansions for GTA or Fallout 3...  edit: I can has grammar? "

Oh, for godsake. Both of you! Grrrr!/Barking noise
 
Sony requires developers to add extra content to you port if it was not released at the same time as a traditional multi-platform title. If your game has taken a year to be released on the PS3, tough luck, start making extra content for it. 
Examples: Bioshock, Alone in the Dark, insert title here.
Yes, there were portions of Vesperia's content that was planned, removed, and then added in for the PS3 release. This happens all the time in game development, Namco simply had an opportunity to add it back in. There is no conspiracy theory.  "

Why are you grring at me? You're on my side!  We win! TKO! "

"Typical Canadian: My founding fathers died for the ability for me to bark menacingly at those I want too, without forethought.
Besides, I thought we were at war? Are we at war? We should be at war. I declare war. "

" @vidiot said:

"Typical Canadian: My founding fathers died for the ability for me to bark menacingly at those I want too, without forethought.
Besides, I thought we were at war? Are we at war? We should be at war. I declare war. "

Canada surrenders unconditionally. Betcha didn't see that coming, didja! Now what are you gonna do, huh? Your plans have been foiled! Foiled, I say!! "

" @vidiot said:

"@Symphony said:

" @Jeust said:

" @Symphony:   I love a good conspiracy theory.  But from what i read it add up pretty well.  Then why is the name of the game the same, if there is so much new content?  Maybe a indication that it belongs there... :p  "

Because it's coming out on a different console but it IS ultimately the same game.... There's no need to embellish on the title when there isn't a similarly named title already existing on the console. Trusty Bell / Eternal Sonata didn't get a new name when it was released on the PS3, nor did the expansions for GTA or Fallout 3...  edit: I can has grammar? "

Oh, for godsake. Both of you! Grrrr!/Barking noise
 
Sony requires developers to add extra content to you port if it was not released at the same time as a traditional multi-platform title. If your game has taken a year to be released on the PS3, tough luck, start making extra content for it. 
Examples: Bioshock, Alone in the Dark, insert title here.
Yes, there were portions of Vesperia's content that was planned, removed, and then added in for the PS3 release. This happens all the time in game development, Namco simply had an opportunity to add it back in. There is no conspiracy theory.  "

Why are you grring at me? You're on my side!  We win! TKO! "

" @Godwind said:

" @Jeust said:

" @Godwind:   They did, but they have a lot of talent nevertheless. "

A lot of FORMER talent.  You are the guy that said they like Metroidvania style castlevania over the older games due to the "inclusion of a storyline."  Don't get me wrong, they have made a lot of great games.  However, ever since the merger, never been the same.  Keep in mind that Enix's greatest games came from developers outside of the company such as Tri-Ace and Quintet. "

You've got a point about Enix's greatest games coming from outside development studios. My favorite games of theirs -- E.V.O. The Search for Eden was developed by Almanic, while Soul Blazer and Illusions of Gaia (and Actraiser, which I didn't actually much care for -- blasphemy, I know) were developed by Quintet. Okay I guess Star Ocean also deserves a mention as it was developed by Tri-Ace... come to think of it which Enix games were in-house...? Dragon Quest?
 
@Jeust said:

" @Godwind: it's similar to what Namco Bandai did with tales of vesperia.   They tested on the xbox360 and then released the final version the ps3.  At least squares realeases a new game with each test. lol "

I see you're a fan of Sankaku Complex's theory of "Vesperia was a beta on the 360 lawl"... except for the fact it was released a year prior and had they not done any updates people would have whined. That and the fact that games do that all the time on the SAME console. Remember Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution? Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance? Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistance? Even SE has done it with Final Fantasy X: International Edition.
 
So the idea that the original release was merely a beta in order to produce a "final" version is laughable. If so, was the original release of Final Fantasy X also a beta?
 
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As for the name change... SE Europe won't be making Final Fantasy so I couldn't give a toss one way or another, to be perfectly honest >.> SE's non-FF titles have been massively underwhelming of late -- Last Remnant was horrible, Infinite Undiscovery was crap, and Star Ocean 4 was bad (but the combat was really addictive and there was a good game underneath all the melodrama, poor dialogue, and bland characters trying to shine through). "