EA will delete your games if Origin goes unused for 2 years.

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#1 Posted by roughneck117 (188 posts) -

Found this on Reddit. Hopefully this isnt true, but it looks pretty real, and if it is, its a fucking dick move of epic proportion.

http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/#section5

"Entitlements may only be held in Accounts belonging to legal residents of countries where access to and use of Content and Entitlements is permitted. Entitlements may be purchased or acquired only from EA or an authorized retailer. EA reserves the right to refuse your request(s) to acquire Entitlements, and EA reserves the right to limit or block any request to acquire Entitlements for any reason. We do not guarantee that any Content or Entitlement will be available at all times or at any given time or that we will continue to offer particular Content or Entitlements for any particular length of time. We reserve the right to change and update Content and Entitlements without notice to you. If you have not used your Entitlements or Account for twenty four (24) months or more and your Account has associated Entitlements, your Entitlements will expire and your Account may be cancelled for non-use. Once you have redeemed your Entitlements, that content is not returnable, exchangeable, or refundable for other Entitlements or for cash, or other goods or services."

So as I understand it, if you dont log into Origin for 2 years, the account gets deleted, and you cant get it back. Can anyone back me up or correct me if im wrong?? Anyone bitten by a radioactive lawyer recently??

#2 Posted by GuyIncognito (445 posts) -
@roughneck117 said:

Found this on Reddit. Hopefully this isnt true, but it looks pretty real, and if it is, its a fucking dick move of epic proportion.

So as I understand it, if you dont log into Origin for 2 years, the account gets deleted, and you cant get it back. Can anyone back me up or correct me if im wrong?? Anyone bitten by a radioactive lawyer recently??

I'm not a lawyer, but if it's true, then the only suitable retaliation -- after having your content taken away -- is bittorrent.
#3 Edited by 234r2we232 (3181 posts) -

This is very unlike EA. They are generally fair and helpfu... wait, that's not EA at all.

#4 Posted by Surkov (991 posts) -

It's like they want Origin to fail. I know 2 years a long time, but there is honestly no reason for them to delete your account. Server space is so cheap, it's not like it cost them anything to hold your account. 

#5 Posted by Akrid (1356 posts) -

I don't understand what they expect to gain from putting in that particular stipulation.

#6 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -
@GuyIncognito said:
@roughneck117 said:

Found this on Reddit. Hopefully this isnt true, but it looks pretty real, and if it is, its a fucking dick move of epic proportion.

So as I understand it, if you dont log into Origin for 2 years, the account gets deleted, and you cant get it back. Can anyone back me up or correct me if im wrong?? Anyone bitten by a radioactive lawyer recently??

I'm not a lawyer, but if it's true, then the only suitable retaliation -- after having your content taken away -- is bittorrent.
Yeah, I'd say in that given situation, it would be cool to use it.
#7 Posted by Eribuster (484 posts) -
@Surkov said:
It's like they want Origin to fail. I know 2 years a long time, but there is honestly no reason for them to delete your account. Server space is so cheap, it's not like it cost them anything to hold your account. 
Yeah, maybe. I'd bet if we dig around the Steam Subscriber Agreement, we would find similar disagreeable terms. 
 
@Akrid said:
I don't understand what they expect to gain from putting in that particular stipulation.
Who knows. I assume it's so EA has an out from maintaining upkeep on an account that won't be used. Server space maybe cheap, but it isn't free.
#8 Posted by JoeyRavn (4950 posts) -

@GuyIncognito said:

@roughneck117 said:

Found this on Reddit. Hopefully this isnt true, but it looks pretty real, and if it is, its a fucking dick move of epic proportion.

So as I understand it, if you dont log into Origin for 2 years, the account gets deleted, and you cant get it back. Can anyone back me up or correct me if im wrong?? Anyone bitten by a radioactive lawyer recently??

I'm not a lawyer, but if it's true, then the only suitable retaliation -- after having your content taken away -- is bittorrent.

People like you... Urgh, the nerve! There are better solutions than bittorrent, like direct downloads or usenet :P

#9 Edited by RsistncE (4496 posts) -

In before Origin Hammer Legion Members.

#10 Posted by GreggD (4482 posts) -

I just read through Valve's entire EULA for Steam, and there's nothing so aggregious. However, they do make plentiful mention of how much they own your games and your rights to play them. They can cancel your shit at any time, without warning, and tell you to fuck off.

#11 Posted by VanTesla (246 posts) -

EA, proving to be the number 1 douchebags in the gaming industry.
#12 Posted by Hailinel (23978 posts) -

@GreggD said:

I just read through Valve's entire EULA for Steam, and there's nothing so aggregious. However, they do make plentiful mention of how much they own your games and your rights to play them. They can cancel your shit at any time, without warning, and tell you to fuck off.

They can, but they're not going to do that to the average customer for shits and giggles, either. Not unless they wanted to commit corporate suicide.

#13 Posted by GreggD (4482 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@GreggD said:

I just read through Valve's entire EULA for Steam, and there's nothing so aggregious. However, they do make plentiful mention of how much they own your games and your rights to play them. They can cancel your shit at any time, without warning, and tell you to fuck off.

They can, but they're not going to do that to the average customer for shits and giggles, either. Not unless they wanted to commit corporate suicide.

I know, much like EA will probably not go through with a full cancellation of an Origin account, either.

#14 Posted by SomeJerk (3159 posts) -

EA's recipe for digital distribution services:

1) New name

2) Do not learn from Steam or other digital distributors

3) Put our games up on the largest competitor at the last minute

4) Profit, eventually, surely

#15 Posted by Aronman789 (2676 posts) -

2 years is a pretty long time, just sayin.

#16 Posted by Subjugation (4718 posts) -

Two years is a pretty long time. However, that doesn't mean I agree with them citing it as a reason to cancel your account. Can someone point me to where we reached the conclusion that cancellation is the same as deletion though? Are we sure you can't just put your information back in and reactivate it later? And I'm assuming "entitlements" is their term for the ability to download and access your games?

How many situations are there where you will find yourself unable to log in to your account once over a two year period though? I'm guessing it's an extremely limited list. I don't know, I'm seeing valid points on both ends.

#17 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -

So? Log in just one time during those two years and it'll be fine. *looks around' ... oh wait, sorry, I now realized how awfully hard that must be for some of the people around here.

#18 Posted by TheKing (824 posts) -

@Aronman789 said:

2 years is a pretty long time, just sayin.

But what if I'm in a 2 year coma and want to play some Dragon Age 2 when I wake up!?!?!??!!??!??!111

#19 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@GuyIncognito said:
@roughneck117 said:

Found this on Reddit. Hopefully this isnt true, but it looks pretty real, and if it is, its a fucking dick move of epic proportion.

So as I understand it, if you dont log into Origin for 2 years, the account gets deleted, and you cant get it back. Can anyone back me up or correct me if im wrong?? Anyone bitten by a radioactive lawyer recently??

I'm not a lawyer, but if it's true, then the only suitable retaliation -- after having your content taken away -- is bittorrent.
BitTorent is so 2005.. uTorrent is the way to go
#20 Posted by VilhelmNielsen (1734 posts) -

Were anyone planning on using Origin anyway?

#21 Posted by Cwaff (1260 posts) -

@TheKing said:

@Aronman789 said:

2 years is a pretty long time, just sayin.

But what if I'm in a 2 year coma and want to play some Dragon Age 2 when I wake up!?!?!??!!??!??!111

I was going to say something to this effect!

#22 Posted by Azteck (7449 posts) -
@RsistncE said:
In before Origin Hammer Legion Members.
There are fanatic fans of Origin? Or rather.. there are fans of Origin?
#23 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@ZeForgotten said:

So? Log in just one time during those two years and it'll be fine. *looks around' ... oh wait, sorry, I now realized how awfully hard that must be for some of the people around here.

Seriously guys, stop your fucking crying. If you don't log into Origin for two years, that's your own goddamn fault.
#24 Posted by AjayRaz (12418 posts) -
@ZeForgotten said:

So? Log in just one time during those two years and it'll be fine. *looks around' ... oh wait, sorry, I now realized how awfully hard that must be for some of the people around here.

thank you. if you're going to be using Origin, this shouldn't be so painfully difficult. 
#25 Posted by Matoya (416 posts) -

What an incredibly sensasionalistic thread

#26 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

well, that is dumb. if you troll their forums with an account, the account gets deleted. pretty stupid of EA to do these types of things. 
 
i don't understand why they don't put their games on steam. steam is where all of the games are at. EA just decides to release a new system for their games when people have steam for a lot longer.

#27 Posted by JJOR64 (18916 posts) -

Thank god I don't plan on using Origin.

#28 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -

@Napalm: @AjayRaz: Well, to be honest, we don't know if some people hurt their flimsy little fingers by clicking the Origin shortcut to launch it so we shouldn't be laughing at their ignorance just yet!

#29 Posted by IceColdGamer (605 posts) -

@VilhelmNielsen:

Win. Thread Closed.

#30 Posted by CrimsonNoir (400 posts) -

there are games i haven't touched in over two years like the original BF2. what if i wanted to start playing that again and i hypothetically bought that on Origin, it's not like steam where i would log in everyday. i'm not going to remember to log in every two years for one specific game.

#31 Posted by roughneck117 (188 posts) -

@VilhelmNielsen: Honestly, I dont really have a problem with it. It was mostly about the inconvenience of having two different services to keep track of but since I can launch a non steam game from steam, its not that big of a deal to me. This however is.

#32 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@CrimsonNoir: BUT WHAT ABOUT IN MY HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO I HYPOTHETICALLY DID SOMETHING HYPOTHETICAL THAT HYPOTHETICALLY HAS NO HYPOTHETIC EFFECT ON ME. HYPOTHETICALLY.
#33 Posted by Eribuster (484 posts) -
@VilhelmNielsen:  
I kind of have to at this point. I bought Battlefield: Bad Company 2 over Electronic Arts Download Manager during a sale offer and the retail version of Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (PC) and I tied them to EADM/Origin. From the wording of Terms of Service, this seems to count for your EA account (which is also your Origin account). So, I guess all you have to do is log in to the online features of an EA game and EA will know your account is still alive? That shouldn't be too hard. 
 
Still, I would prefer if there wasn't a time limit. There shouldn't be a time limit.
#34 Posted by DrMcKittrick (231 posts) -

The first rule of usenet is nobody talks about usenet.

#35 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -

@Napalm: I actually liked the hypothetical idea that someone had about someone waking up from a two year coma wanting to play Dragon Age II.. A person like that, in real life at least, deserves to be put back into that coma untill he/she learns how pathetic they just were. Nobody wants to play Dragon Age II after waking up after a coma. that's probably the thing that sent you into a coma to being with

#36 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@ZeForgotten: Nobody should be playing Dragon Age II in any way.
#37 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -

@Napalm: That's true actually. Not even the people we hate the most

#38 Posted by valrog (3671 posts) -
@TheKing said:

@Aronman789 said:

2 years is a pretty long time, just sayin.

But what if I'm in a 2 year coma and want to play some Dragon Age 2 when I wake up!?!?!??!!??!??!111

If Dragon Age II is the first game you want to play when you wake up you're better off staying in coma.
#39 Posted by Chrisbbq (45 posts) -

All this says is that EA got the rights to cancel your origin account after 2 years of inactivity, just like steam got the right to cancel all your shit whenever for whatever reason. IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY WILL DO IT. Their just reserving the right to do it.

#40 Edited by Daiphyer (1320 posts) -
@valrog said:
@TheKing said:

@Aronman789 said:

2 years is a pretty long time, just sayin.

But what if I'm in a 2 year coma and want to play some Dragon Age 2 when I wake up!?!?!??!!??!??!111

If Dragon Age II is the first game you want to play when you wake up you're better off staying in coma.
Dammit, Ninja'd :( 
 

@TheKing: You would have a better time staying in coma.
#41 Posted by GreggD (4482 posts) -

@Chrisbbq said:

All this says is that EA got the rights to cancel your origin account after 2 years of inactivity, just like steam got the right to cancel all your shit whenever for whatever reason. IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY WILL DO IT. Their just reserving the right to do it.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYIN' TO TELL YA, GAWD! :|

#42 Edited by Dry_Carton (76 posts) -
@weeman105 said:

Two years is a pretty long time. However, that doesn't mean I agree with them citing it as a reason to cancel your account. Can someone point me to where we reached the conclusion that cancellation is the same as deletion though? Are we sure you can't just put your information back in and reactivate it later? And I'm assuming "entitlements" is their term for the ability to download and access your games?

How many situations are there where you will find yourself unable to log in to your account once over a two year period though? I'm guessing it's an extremely limited list. I don't know, I'm seeing valid points on both ends.

 I've got plenty of games I haven't played for well over two years. I've even got games I haven't played for over ten years probably. I've got movies I haven't watched for years. I've got books I haven't read for years. Two years is nothing. 
 
And it means deletion. Your account will be obliterated. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to disable accounts for later reactivation as you're suggesting.
#43 Posted by RsistncE (4496 posts) -

All the people screaming that this is in no way different from what Steam is doing are idiots: there's this thing called history and context, and if you actually go about looking at it you'll see the shenanigans EA pulled with it's download services in the past. I can see them setting all accounts to auto-delete at the 2 year period. EA just isn't a company I trust, they've done nothing to earn any goodwill among consumers.

#44 Posted by iDarktread (1206 posts) -

That can't be true.

#45 Posted by TanoPrime (180 posts) -

haters be hatin on da EA, yo

#46 Posted by Kontrapunkt (413 posts) -

Well. I mean, you don't own steam games either. They are licensed to you.

#47 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8698 posts) -

Give me incentive to log into Origin.
I still log into Bungie, Xbox and Steam everyday for example, always something to see and do, can't say the same for EA so far.

#48 Posted by buzz_killington (3532 posts) -

How dare they?? ARGGGHH

#49 Posted by benjaebe (2783 posts) -
@TaliciaDragonsong said:
Give me incentive to log into Origin. I still log into Bungie, Xbox and Steam everyday for example, always something to see and do, can't say the same for EA so far.
If you buy your PC games on disc, like I did with the Mass Effect and Dragon Age series, you can get digital copies for free. Seems like a decent deal to me, at least if I need backups. They have some decent deals that happen every once in a while too.
 
I don't really care about Origin one way or another, but people seem really intent on spreading blatant hyperbole (i.e. anything that comes from the cesspit that is reddit's /r/gaming). I'm starting to tire of explaining that Origin isn't a Steam replacement, it's a rebranded EA download manager that doesn't even have to be open to run the games you buy from it.
#50 Posted by rmanthorp (3891 posts) -

I call bullshit. Mostly because I don't want it to be true...

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