Fable 2 was a rather disappointing experience for me; The combat felt really shallow and the story was equally weak. While the art style was very appealing to look like it was not enough to cover the other weaker components of the game. The one thing that Fable 2 did well was the golden bread crumb trail. As you could probably infer it's a trail that constantly points you towards your main objective. My friends says that like the arrow in Bioshock, this trail ruins the experience by making it extremly linear. I would argue that it just makes the whole experience more stream lined. Unlike Fallout 3 I always knew what I had to do. There was never a moment where I just stare at the screen and wonder where the hell to go. I love that, it cuts down on the frustration that happens when you don't know where to go.

Hopefully Dead Space will be better at fulfilling my expectations.

Fable 2 was a rather disappointing experience for me; The combat felt really shallow and the story was equally weak. While the art style was very appealing to look like it was not enough to cover the other weaker components of the game. The one thing that Fable 2 did well was the golden bread crumb trail. As you could probably infer it's a trail that constantly points you towards your main objective. My friends says that like the arrow in Bioshock, this trail ruins the experience by making it extremly linear. I would argue that it just makes the whole experience more stream lined. Unlike Fallout 3 I always knew what I had to do. There was never a moment where I just stare at the screen and wonder where the hell to go. I love that, it cuts down on the frustration that happens when you don't know where to go.

Hopefully Dead Space will be better at fulfilling my expectations.

Fallout 3 has a bread crumb trail too, it's just not nearly as glitchy/broken/useless and it doesn't pressure the player *nearly* as much as the Trail does.

Dead Space has just what you need. You don;t have to use it, but when you do, just press the button and you'll have a blue line tell you exactly where you need to go. I loved this tool so much I gave it the nickname "Godly Little Blue Line of Infinite Knowledge of Telling Me Where to Go"

I haven't picked up Fable 2 yet but I do know what you are talking about. However, in Fallout 3 there is an arrow it's just not as advanced as the Fable 2 trail.

"I haven't picked up Fable 2 yet but I do know what you are talking about. However, in Fallout 3 there is an arrow it's just not as advanced as the Fable 2 trail."

I would disagree. The bread crumb trail is supposed to allow you to do the exact opposite of what you are saying. It is allowing you to go do something crazy, not following the quest, and allowing you to jump back into the quest, unlike other RPGS. The other details about Fable 2 that you posted, I also disagree with, but hey, your opinion.

In an RPG?
No way. But considering that Fable is barely an RPG(in terms of gameplay depth, aesthetically it is), it's acceptable.
The bread crumbs discourage the player from exploring. And exploration is important in most RPGs.

Well, it depends.  It works for some games, not all.  Fable isn't really the typical rpg and not really an action game.  It's different. 

That being said, Fallout needs something like this.  I realize putting a trail like that in this game... screw it.  Fallout 3 fails on so many levels when it comes to polish.  I can't discuss all of its problems

"I would disagree. The bread crumb trail is supposed to allow you to do the exact opposite of what you are saying. It is allowing you to go do something crazy, not following the quest, and allowing you to jump back into the quest, unlike other RPGS. The other details about Fable 2 that you posted, I also disagree with, but hey, your opinion."

The problem with the arrow in Fallout is that it sometimes drives me into a wall, while the breadcrumb trail stuck to a path.

I really liked the glowing trail as well.  Some of you said that it discourages exploration, but I felt the exact opposite.  I wasn't afraid  that I'd get lost while walking around because I knew then when I was ready the trail would lead me back.  Plus if it bothers you that much you can dim the light in the options menu.  Not sure if you can completely turn it off though.

"Dead Space has just what you need. You don;t have to use it, but when you do, just press the button and you'll have a blue line tell you exactly where you need to go. I loved this tool so much I gave it the nickname "Godly Little Blue Line of Infinite Knowledge of Telling Me Where to Go""

I wish Super Mario Bros. had the breadcrumb trail. I get so confused in world 6-2, I'm not sure which way the flagpole is.

Everygame should be like Morrowind, where you get vaguely told where to go in a journal and spend an hour trying to find it.

"Fable 2 was a rather disappointing experience for me; The combat felt really shallow and the story was equally weak.  

"Dj said:

"Fable 2 was a rather disappointing experience for me; The combat felt really shallow and the story was equally weak.  

That is true about the Fable series, however after playing Fable we can all confirm that it is NOT even a RPG, it's an action game w/ a bunch of sims style bullshit thrown in w/ some really poor english fart jokes"

"I really liked the glowing trail as well.  Some of you said that it discourages exploration, but I felt the exact opposite.  I wasn't afraid  that I'd get lost while walking around because I knew then when I was ready the trail would lead me back.  Plus if it bothers you that much you can dim the light in the options menu.  Not sure if you can completely turn it off though."

"Dj said:

That is true about the Fable series, however after playing Fable we can all confirm that it is NOT even a RPG, it's an action game w/ a bunch of sims style bullshit thrown in w/ some really poor english fart jokes"

i didn't really like it. It was much better when you had the world map and had to make your own way

i dig the trail because i dont get completely lost while i'm f*cking around in the world of fable, and at the same time it doesn't ever force you to move on, it's just there showing you where you eventually need to go. :)

To elaborate on my old post, it's because the arror will lead you to a point in fallout where you can't cross--- you have to all the way on the other side of the map sometimes.

While I like exploration, there's nothing to really explore in lots of open world games, just repeditive dungeons that look the same.

" I really liked the glowing trail as well.  Some of you said that it discourages exploration, but I felt the exact opposite.  I wasn't afraid  that I'd get lost while walking around because I knew then when I was ready the trail would lead me back.  Plus if it bothers you that much you can dim the light in the options menu.  Not sure if you can completely turn it off though. "

They make the game way to simple by doing this, I would turn it off.

I really didn't like not having a map in fable 2. i found it hard to work out how the world joined up. And I finished it in about 2 days. It was kind of weak. I prefer my RPG's to be RPG's and have depth - KOTOR, all the fallouts (especially 2), Baldurs Gate, Planescape etc.

Why did this show up now? Its been months since I posted this. Oh well,