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#101 Posted by mp5 (41 posts) -

It's a 25-pixel button at the top of the page people, if you don't want to use it or don't like what it offers, don't click it! If your hatred for the idea burns like a thousand flaming Goku spirit bombs or whatever then I'll do you one better:  Install adblock  http://adblockplus.org/en/installation   and banish it from your sight!

#102 Posted by MasterOfPenguins_Zell (2093 posts) -
@mp5 said:
" @Red said:
" Completely agree, Sweepy-boy. In real life, the people who I know who might know what Giant Bomb is are dorks. "
You have almost 3500 posts on a video game website message board duder, you're the pot calling the kettle black "
Red is saying that people who might possibly know of GB (people who he's around, maybe at school) would think of GB as place for dorks. He's in no way saying that GB is full of dorks.
#103 Edited by Johnny5 (1355 posts) -
@snide:  All fairness to Snide (easily one of the coolest guys ive seen),  but in regards to Show me one site that even allows your blog to be broadcast outside of a profile page!  " 
 
Destructoid seems to have one of the closest knit communities out of the video game sites and they promote blogs through their blog page and also promote community blogs on their front page. For example  
http://www.destructoid.com/the-daily-hotness-sonic--162635.phtml  - promotion of blogs on the front page
http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/posts_by_users.phtml?subnav=new&t=community    - community blogs section
#104 Edited by Nictel (2441 posts) -
@mp5 said:

" It's a 25-pixel button at the top of the page people, if you don't want to use it or don't like what it offers, don't click it! If your hatred for the idea burns like a thousand flaming Goku spirit bombs or whatever then I'll do you one better:  Install adblock  http://adblockplus.org/en/installation   and banish it from your sight! "

Giantbomb gets the green light, always.
 
I do wonder, if this is really about the little blue box at the top or about people being afraid of others finding out they spend hours discussing the  quantum physics of Miranda's butt. Because I can't imagine people are still ashamed to say they play videogames.
#105 Posted by JJWeatherman (14571 posts) -
@snide: I'm sure you have gotten this reaction a hundred times by now, but that was a rad post Dave. Stop stirring up controversy Sweep! Damn man!
#106 Posted by eroticfishcake (7792 posts) -

I've said this before so I'll say it again. I may not like the button but I leave it alone and it leaves me alone. We're all happy. I know this is a short. blunt answer but in the end it all boils down to this.

#107 Edited by Rallier (1739 posts) -
@snide said:

"  If you want to have your shit seen, you need to market yourself. We provide the best tools we can to allow you to create your content, but it's up to you to make sure that content is viewed.  "

I'm not entirely sure what you are saying here. Do you mean that I when I make a thread on a gamepage that no one knows that exists I have to bump it every 4 hours to keep it on the first page of recent discussions to "market" myself?  Because if i do not, it will fall of that first page and since no one will ever check out the game-page i would never get a reply. It is the same issue for blogs.
#108 Posted by TinaWood (116 posts) -

I agree, I don't understand it either, it just seems really weird. My real friends on Facebook would be baffled and confused by any comments concerning videogames, or anything  else geeky.

#109 Posted by Dolphin_Butter (1917 posts) -

  @eroticfishcake said:

" I've said this before so I'll say it again. I may not like the button but I leave it alone and it leaves me alone. We're all happy. I know this is a short. blunt answer but in the end it all boils down to this. "

@jakob187 said:

Keywords are "not required".  It's an OPTION, not a mandate.  You're crusading about something that doesn't need to be crusaded.  That's all I'm saying. " 

@Hamz said:

" It's an entirely optional feature for those people who wish to integrate their Giant Bomb activity into their Facebook profile.

@Milkman said:

" If you don't wanna use the Facebook integration, then don't. 

@snide said:

" Show me one place on Giant Bomb where we force your content onto Facebook? Show me one place where we don't ask you to click a button to push your content somewhere. Find the place where Giant Bomb spams you. Find the preference that sends you tons of email as a new user without your permission."

Oh hey, here are the only bits of common sense in this stupid blog. I know Sweep said he's ignoring the connectivity (really, the only thing he meant to say), but you all need to stop whining about keeping the two sites separate. The only thing you should be ashamed of is your shame in visiting this site and having that potentially made visible on your fucking Facebook. If you're so keen on keeping your appreciation for gaming culture away from your friends or family, then maybe you need to take a step back and examine yourself. Have you honestly built your GB persona to the point of being ashamed of it?  And if you have, why the hell are you complaining about something that's completely optional? God, I'll probably leave this site soon. You're all bunch of stupid internet drama queens, attention grabbers and most unappreciative bunch I've ever seen in comparison to the amount of work the people behind this site do.
#110 Posted by Nictel (2441 posts) -

So I just tested it out and it doesn't seem to post your forum post on your facebook, Just the blogs and if you choose to it shows a daily update on your achievements. No biggie, no spam assault on the news/live feed.

#111 Posted by Johnny5 (1355 posts) -
@Nictel said:
" So I just tested it out and it doesn't seem to post your forum post on your facebook, Just the blogs and if you choose to it shows a daily update on your achievements. No biggie, no spam assault on the news/live feed. "
I think thats where a lot of the initial worry comes in. That all our posts will spam people on facebook when its quite untrue. A lot of it is the wording in the Facebook API that makes it sound like thats what it does.
#112 Posted by Jeffsekai (7054 posts) -
@snide: Amazingly said :D I completely agree.
#113 Posted by jakob187 (21763 posts) -
@Sleepy_Insomniac: Don't say that I have common sense.  I wear sandals year round, even when it's 20 degrees outside.  Hell, I mosh in sandals.  There's no common sense here.  What I have is logic, which is something completely different in my book!  lol 
 
As far as Snide's post goes (because let's face it, why not comment on what a staff member had to post), I ran a gaming site for three years...built it from the ground up.  I understand EXACTLY where you are coming from. 
 
And for the last bit - I've never played Icewind Dale.  =  /  I remember seeing it when it first came out, as I worked in Best Buy in Phoenix, AZ (the one that was on 26th and Camelback).  Unfortunately, I was too deep into Half-Life to try it out...and things just snowballed from there.  Maybe one day, I'll check it out.
#114 Posted by Dolphin_Butter (1917 posts) -
@jakob187: In either case, regarding the fact that this Facebook connectivity is optional is the smarter way of thinking.
#115 Posted by krazy_kyle (715 posts) -

Facebook, meh...

#116 Posted by thehexeditor (1404 posts) -

The fact that this thread exists infuriates me.
 
Fuck you whiny little motherfuckers.
@Sleepy_Insomniac said: "God, I'll probably leave this site soon."
I'll leave the forums right now. Fuck this self-indulgent, worthless piece of shit "opinion" on a nonissue and fuck all the supporters.
Thank you and have a nice fucking day.

#117 Posted by VWGTI (1919 posts) -
@thehexeditor:  XOXO
#118 Posted by Sweep (8983 posts) -
@Rowr said:
" @Milkman said:

" @Rowr: I would agree if it wasn't for the last paragraph, and specifically that bold sentence. 
 
"I find it sadly ironic that it's now easier for people to find my blogs on facebook than on giantbomb." It's obvious that this whole thread is just a loaded arguement in order for him to once again start up the whole "community spotlight" arguement. This isn't about Facebook. It's about Sweep and some of the other people on this site not being able to get over the fact that there content isn't as prominent as the staff's. And quite frankly, it's getting old. "

I think you've got it all wrong man. I think what he is trying to say, is that he doesnt want people on facebook looking at his blogs, they are meant for giantbomb. I think you have a bit of a conspiracy theory going on there. Sweep isnt nearly as egotistical as you seem to think. 
 

@MrJared

said:

" @Rowr said:

There's absolutely no way i want any connection between facebook and giantbomb

I'm still greatly interested in hearing why some of you want absolutely no interaction between the two. In my experience with dealing with dozens upon dozens of other social sites, the only negative I've ever come across is when an application spams your friends and as Snide pointed out, GiantBomb doesn't do this.
 
So why all the rage again? It seriously can't be "I don't want to see a button," can it? Let's keep in mind that this is an entirely optional feature. "
I dont see any rage? aside from snides post and everybody unhelpfully pointing out sweep doesnt need to use the option (which he obviously knows.)   If anyone actually bothered to read the blog, they might realise sweep wasnt raging so much as posing the question, "will people use this? why?"  As far as my life is concerned, my gaming habit and time i spend with giantbomb will be severely misunderstood by most of my friends and family on facebook. It's that simple. I like the two worlds very separated.  Unlike many of you, i dont live in a cosy geekworld. I work in a trade, 95 percent of people i know in the real world want nothing to do with video games and thats fine with me. I dont need to be told it should be any different "
You are a raft of hope upon a sea of despair. <3
#119 Posted by Jensonb (1769 posts) -

Hey cool, now I can easily, optionally share Giant Bomb activity to my friends on Facebook.

#120 Posted by MetalGearSunny (7003 posts) -
@snide: You are my hero.
#121 Posted by Johnny5 (1355 posts) -

I get the feeling that a lot of people replying haven't even read the original post lol

#122 Posted by Dogma (989 posts) -

I finally got to understand what the button does by reading this thread. But unlike a whole lot of other people I kept my mouth shut until I knew instead of going on crazy negative tangents. 
If I can choose exactly what's get's pushed to Facebook then I'm cool with this. I don't feel ashamed of who I am and I have lots of friends on Facebook that are gamers too so it's not wierd for me to have videogame realated updates on Facebook. My only fear would been that I would spam my friends with updates like the f**king Farmvilles and their likes.  
The only negative thing I have to say about the little button is that it loads into the site a bit slow so I always look at it when I relod the page. A minor annoyance.
 
Excelent post by Snide. Being a editor in chief myself of game site I sure as hell now how he feels. When you work hard on stuff and people then react negative before knowing facts.  
One tip for avoiding this in the future. Make an article/post (on the frontpage so everyone can see it) that in detail explains exactly what the updates have done. We started doing this last summer on my site and the feedback is positive because very few things get's misunderstood. 

#123 Posted by Willy105 (4691 posts) -
@thehexeditor said:
" The fact that this thread exists infuriates me.
 
Fuck you whiny little motherfuckers.
@Sleepy_Insomniac said: "God, I'll probably leave this site soon." I'll leave the forums right now. Fuck this self-indulgent, worthless piece of shit "opinion" on a nonissue and fuck all the supporters. Thank you and have a nice fucking day. "
Are we supposed to pay attention to you?
#124 Edited by Sweep (8983 posts) -

WHERE TO BEGIN?

@Hamz:

 Your points are all valid. Just because we don't NEED it to happen doesn't mean it's not a good idea. 
 

@Johnny5

 said:

" I get the feeling that a lot of people replying haven't even read the original post lol "

Yeah. Most of them.  

@snide:

 I didn't deserve half the shit you just threw at me. Not by a long shot. A whole chunk what you were saying wasn't even related to what I wrote. I love this website and I massively appreciate all the work you guys have done. My criticism was as constructive as possible. At no point in either of my threads did I request for features to be removed - merely questioned how people would use them and suggested potential improvements. I'm not making a fuss. I'm not doing this to cause trouble.

Sweep Said:

 I am ignoring it. I just wanted to explain why i'm ignoring it :D 

  I know this is one of the best websites around. Thats why i'm here using it. That's why I feel passionate enough to get actively involved. Out of a whole shitfuck of whiners and complainers I was the only person to offer anything constructive and as a result I got fucking crucified. Half the shit you just talked about wasn't even said by me. There are a lot of people here who seem to agree with what I had to say so why am I the only one getting smashed by a wall of text? And by a lot of people I mean:
 

@turbomonkey138

said:

" Wow i was expecting to see you complain about the forum like most people do . Bomb shelter is a great idea :D "

@Red12b said:

"I agree completely Sweep, 

And that Photoshop of what things could be is amazing, 
 
+1 vote to sweep's Idea, Snide make it so!  

"
@Rallier said:

" Hope that this or something similar happens "

@MattBodega said:

"Your argument is salient, make no mistake: the community presence on Giant Bomb deserves a boost in visibility and access, if only to encourage more people to get invested in the site and be more thoughtful/attached to the content they produce. Great post! "

@armaan8014 said:

" @Sweep: Im with you! The photoshop work u have done would be great if turned into reality! Let's hope this happens "

  @Meltac said:

"   @Ahmad_Metallic said:

" very cool thoughts and the bombshelter will probably encourage me more to read community entries.. SWEEP FOR PRESIDENT "

Exactly what I was thinking :D "
@tiwi said:

" yes sir, I agree. "

@crystalskull2 said:

" Great ideas, dude. It'll definately be helpful if these can be used correctly. "

@Kowbrainz said:

" +1 for great post.  You've expressed a lot of issues I've had with the site over the past few months. "

@crystalskull2 said:

" Great ideas, dude. It'll definately be helpful if these can be used correctly. "

@Sparky_Buzzsaw said:

" I like and agree with most of your suggestions.  "

@erinfizz said:

" Yeah, all good points, both some new things and fixing existing features. I would LOVE a real Community Manager here. "

@Mardarkin said:

" I wholeheartedly agree.   One of the reasons I stopped posting here - I use it as my main entertaining games-news source - was because these aspects of the community weren't promoted. "

@Tireyo643 said:

" What a neat idea."

  @ch13696 said:

" I would totally hang out on this site more if there's something like that. I'm all for it.  "

@Jambones said: 

"  I would love to see a community focus. It's a wonderful idea. "

@mracoon said:

" I agree with all your suggestions but I'd wish they'd update the wiki features. That's a part of the site that's been neglected for a long time now. "

@Snail said:

" That seems like a great idea. Good job Sweep.

@Gamer_152

said:

" you do make some very good points Sweep. It would be great to see both a lot of the awesome community-created content that is going largely unnoticed get the spotlight it deserves and to see more members of the Giant Bomb community be encouraged to contribute more content.
"

@EpicSteve said:

" I totally agree. Great contributors are going unnoticed. I also don't know who to follow if I haven't been exposed to their blogs/reviews by some accidental nature.  "

@JJWeatherman

said:

" Now that I can see a prototype I think a community page all on it's own is a pretty great idea. You're right, there is a lot of content that goes unnoticed. I think the Community Spotlight being converted into a full on section of the site would allow it to be shown off more. Anyways, good ideas. "

@Oni said:

" AWesome mock-up and great ideas, Sweep. There was really a sense of community coming together in the early days of GB, but since then I've stopped really participating in community stuff and only actually follow/talk to a select few members on Giant Bomb. But it doesn't need to be that way if user created stuff was at the forefront more. "

@Symphony said:

" Great post and I agree with you on every point. "

  @Valkyr said:

" The site needs more user blog promotion, just as the guy said, look at Destructoid, it doesn't have it own wiki/database and awesome video features but the user blogs are fun to read and are well promoted, they usually appear in the front page if they are good enough. Here when I find a good blogger is only by luck, if someone had some cool reply to a thread I look on his profile to see if he has a blog, that is sad "

@evanbrau said:

" Bombshelter=excellent idea. "

@Cerza said:

" I'm with you Sweep. I've been here since day 1 and I agree with everything you said. Much of what you said is why I don't blog here and why I stopped writing user reviews (there doesn't feel like there is a point to it). Also, I love that mock up. The Bomb Shelter is a dead sexy idea. I love it. Maybe Dave and Andy should hire you. "

@Matthew said:

" Dude, you're spot on.  "

@pause422 said:

" Sweep, once again comes through with some good suggestions. "

@Eyepatch said:

" I think these are good ideas and I, for one, would visit a community-focused page as that would help weed out all of the generic garbage posts people have been griping about and focus on interesting blogs and such. "

@misterpope said:

" All great ideas. Bombshelter is cool. I definitely wish blogs had a much large place on Giant Bomb. "

@SeriouslyNow said:

" "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite blog on The Citadel" "

@Metal_Gear_Sunny said:

" That...that's....oh my god.  Sweep, you're a genius. "

@supermike6 said:

" Yeah, I think a Community Spotlight tab at the top would be pretty cool. "

@Dr_Feelgood38 said:

" Sweep for president!  Hope these ideas get implemented. "

@buzz_clik said:

" Christ, Sweep, sometimes you are just so diamondcore rad and productive that it makes me feel like I'm a dying fish flopping about on a sidewalk. Love the BombShelter idea (and the corresponding mock up), and your insight is pretty much bang on the money for me. "

  @brukaoru said:

" This has been needed for quite sometime. Not to mention the decline of users being active on GiantBomb, I think, is a result of the lack of community features. Wonderful work, let's hope this happens some time soon!  "

@Dethfish77 said:

" This seems like a pretty good idea. Great job Sweep. "

@SJSchmidt93 said:

" I like it. I like it a lot.  Make it happen "the men upstairs". "

@Br3adfan said:

" I agree with all of your points Sweep. There needs to be more ways for users to get their content out to others. "

@ArbitraryWater said:

" Sweep deserves some sort of medal.  I wouldn't mind a more focused outlook. My review blogs could always use a few more posts... "

@Rallier said:

"The staff has done nothing to improve the community since launch really thinking of it. Guess there is that featured review thing but that is it. "

@ryoma122 said:

" man im pretty surprised i was expecing you to bitch about how you dont like  the site but it was pretty well done "

@natetodamax said:

" I love the Bomb Shelter idea. I would spend most of my time there. "

  @Jack_Daniels said:

" Awesome Idea! "

@Stealthoneill said:

" Good to see someone being pro-active with their problems instead of just sitting here complaining.   I've been away from the site for a couple of months and heard rumours of a community area where I could catch up or see whats been going on. UUnofrtunately it took nearly half hour of digging to find the damn thing! A specific area where people can point to and be proud if they appear would be awesome. "

@Capt_Ventris said:

" Bombshelter looks like it would be a great addtion to the site.  Highlighting user reviews would be especially cool "

@Tordah said:

" This sounds like a great idea to me. I'm all for it. "

@Red said:

" Great idea and layout of a page. "

  @TurboMan said:

" I support this idea. "

  

And that's just from one Blog.

 The same Blog that apparently inspired you to fly off the wall and tell me i'm a fucking idiot. What I was suggesting wasn't even that far-fetched.
 
I'm not angry. I'm just disappointed.
 

 Anything else I needed to say?
oh yeah.
 

@ALL YOU OTHER CUNTS

Read the original post. 
 
 
Love Sweep
#125 Posted by EpicSteve (6499 posts) -

People know my gaming life. I mean, my fucking girlfriend met came to GiantBomb's office, and I have a pic of Jeff and I on my Facebook. I don't hide it at all.

#126 Edited by Johnny5 (1355 posts) -
@EpicSteve said:

" People know my gaming life. I mean, my fucking girlfriend met came to GiantBomb's office, and I have a pic of Jeff and I on my Facebook. I don't hide it at all. "

Sweet shirt. When people ask you what it is do you reenact the video thing? Maybe load up the video in an iphone or something.
#127 Posted by Rowr (5824 posts) -
@Willy105 said:
" @thehexeditor said:
" The fact that this thread exists infuriates me.
 
Fuck you whiny little motherfuckers.
@Sleepy_Insomniac said: "God, I'll probably leave this site soon." I'll leave the forums right now. Fuck this self-indulgent, worthless piece of shit "opinion" on a nonissue and fuck all the supporters. Thank you and have a nice fucking day. "
Are we supposed to pay attention to you? "
yeh really.
 
dont let the door hit your ass on the way out.
#128 Posted by Jerusahat (139 posts) -
@Sweep: You have yourself to blame for the misdirection, a little bit. I mean, this thread is called "Facebook on Giantbomb", and you've got that huge-ass logo going on.
 
Your actual gripe is that the GB staff spent time on implementing a Facebook thing, instead of reading your mind and implementing your internal promotion idea. The thing is, promoting your stuff internally doesn't do the site any good. The only people who will see it are here already! GB, as a business, needs to draw people in. Facebook is effing huge. 1 + 1 = more readers.
 
I'm sure carving out a little bit of Bomb will do your ego no end of good (impressive list of quotes, by the way), but it just seems a little too self-serving.
#129 Posted by Jensonb (1769 posts) -
@Jerusahat: Read Before Posting. Sweep is not mad about the feature, his post was mostly just him wondering why people would use it.
#130 Posted by Jerusahat (139 posts) -
@Jensonb: I've read his posts ok. Gave them some consideration too. Maybe you should read mine again?
 
(I'd paste the bits I was responding to, but it's borked in my browser)
#131 Posted by Sweep (8983 posts) -
@Jerusahat: haha yeah because, as you can see, people are having a lot of trouble finding my blog at the moment ;)  It's all just one big ego trip.
 
NEED MOAR COMMENTS!! Enough is never enough. It's like heroin, but with less needles.
#132 Posted by Jerusahat (139 posts) -
@Sweep: Thoughtful response. Thanks for your time.
#133 Posted by Jeffsekai (7054 posts) -
@Sweep: I like your blogs Sweep but common man, your blog IS you complaining/questioning about facebook integration and like Snide said nothing is forced, its for the few(thousand) people who would like it. Its a small icon that's not really in the way so really...who cares if YOU won't use it, someone will. Not to provoke you or anything but quoting a bunch of people as if to say " SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME" just makes you look like a child. 
 
I'm not trying to come across like a dick...just sayin
#134 Posted by Sweep (8983 posts) -
@Jerusahat:  heheh sorry after all the drama i'm trying not to take it too seriously. I totally appreciate why linking with a site like facebook could be beneficial for the publicity of giantbomb. However the reality of me making my giantbomb persona accessible to my friends and family makes me feel slightly uncomfortable. I would prefer to retain the level of control which allows me to directly decide what they are and are not exposed to regarding my videogame addiction. It's probably not a good idea for them to know I have seen every episode of the Endurance Run twice, for example. For me, at least, there is no bridge between what happens on giantbomb and what happens on facebook. Some people probably have no issue at all with this. That was the point of the blog - to promote discussion.
 
I wasn't really expecting anything to come of my idea. It was more just a reflective look at the possibilities. It seemed like a more productive exercise than simply complaining loudly. If it got people thinking about the possibilities then that at the very least was a success.
 
I assume you are referring to the last paragraph when you imply i'm taking it personally? Not at all. That was actually just an afterthought. I kind of wish I had never included it - especially considering how many people took it the wrong way. I think people thought that was the primary purpose of the blog which, you are right, is probably why I got so much flak as a result. I harbour no resentment towards giantbomb's decision to incorporate facebook into the site.
 
 
@Jeffsekai: Not so much complaining. But yeah, point taken. See above reply to Jerusahat ^^^^^ The reason I stuck all those quotes up there was because I felt like I had been personally targeted to take the full weight of the opposition when there is clearly a large group of people who feel the same way as me. It's not just one crazy dude with a blog...
#135 Posted by Red (5994 posts) -
@MasterOfPenguins_Zell: Thank you. Call me shallow, but among my circle of friends we don't really discuss video games. The people I know who do discuss video games are obnoxious, "PWNZOR"-saying idiots, who I do not want to associate with.
#136 Edited by jakob187 (21763 posts) -
@Sweep: Plenty of people read your original post and understood it just fine.  We also noticed that you threw an underhanded lob by saying that blogs are now easier to find on Facebook than they are on Giant Bomb.  This is something that is not true, and in turn, people decided to comment on that...especially since it plays into your previous thread about a community spotlight page on the site. 
 
By the way...Facebook did a facelift today...and I can't find my own blog anywhere...so, it personally seems that point is now moot. 
 
You are complaining about Facebook connectivity, why it's here, and who would use it.  Plenty of us will, and a small minority of people (you included) who want to complain that it's a dumb feature or that it's a pointless feature...are the minority.  I have already activated it, as have many people.
#137 Posted by Supermarius (1196 posts) -

This is such a dumb thing to argue about. How about everyone just takes 5 to go wash the sand out of their vaginas and then uses their freetime to play a videogame, or make posts about a videogame instead of having a crazy bitchfest about a new button that you can click on, if you want to. I can't believe people really have such low-stress lives that they feel the need to get hot-and-bothered over site designs now. The good news for dave is that the percentage of giantbomb users who will stumble on this train-wreck of a thread is pretty low.
 
If it really bothers you, maybe someone can make a greasmonkey script that blocks the facebook frame from appearing for you. Then you can live in your own facebook-free shard universe.

#138 Posted by Daniel_Newton (1166 posts) -

From what I can tell, you connect your accounts and then you can post links to things on giant bomb on your facebook page. So if I want to promote one of my lists or threads or something, I can do that. I really don't see the problem here...

#139 Posted by lemon360 (1102 posts) -

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