Fallout: New Vegas - Official Topic of "speculation and wants"

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#1 Posted by pseudomyxoma (108 posts) -

So since this has been announce I am already tingling with excitement.  I've been thinking of all the things I'd like to see or what I think may be in the game.  So this thread is just to share ideas, prediction and wants for the new game.

-Personally if there is not some underground ghoul casino I will be a little disappointed.  

-I'd also like to see some sort of gun that has a slot machine board attached to it and depending on how your spin goes depends on the damage it doles out to the enemy.

#2 Posted by MattyFTM (14384 posts) -

I want a decent third person view.

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#3 Posted by Gruel (7 posts) -

Pip Boy Texas Hold 'em Online Multiplayer!

#4 Posted by Soulless (143 posts) -

A way to become a Ghoul.

#5 Posted by TekZero (2672 posts) -

More and better side quests.

#6 Posted by MKLOL (71 posts) -

More and shorted side quest, I don't like LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG side quest!

#7 Posted by Icemael (6321 posts) -
MattyFTM said:
"I want a decent third person view."
I found that the third-person view in Fallout 3 worked pretty well - I just zoomed in until the character's legs couldn't be seen. That way it didn't look like my character was skating.

As for what I'd like to see, a night-vision perk would be really neat. It would be perfect for a stealth character(well, any type of character really, but stealth characters would benefit from it the most).
#8 Posted by Fallen189 (5007 posts) -

Competent gameplay.

#9 Posted by Pibo47 (3166 posts) -

A) A fallout game.
B) Actually give us some more quests than...32  i think...
C) a real fallout game.

#10 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -

actual side quests 
the world to not look so ugly and boring
more weapons and armor
better character customizing
new perks
much higher level cap like 50
play after ending

#11 Posted by Pie (7099 posts) -

More small-medium sized random settlements

#12 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -

oooh yeah more than just two towns

#13 Posted by pseudomyxoma (108 posts) -
trophyhunter said:
new perks
much higher level cap like 50
play after ending "
I just assumed these would be a given on a new fallout game as they are adding it to fallout 3 via DLC
#14 Edited by AvD (288 posts) -
How about we use this thread to answer the OPs question instead of bashing Fallout 3, shall we?

I am really excited to see a post-apoclyptic Las Vegas, I really enjoyed the atmosphere of Fallout 3 and think they will deliver the goods in Sin City as well.  Other than that I'd say more perks, wepons, etc.  The VATS system could use a little fleshing out as well.
#15 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
pseudomyxoma said:
"trophyhunter said:
new perks
much higher level cap like 50
play after ending "
I just assumed these would be a given on a new fallout game as they are adding it to fallout 3 via DLC"
you'd be surprised
#16 Posted by Captain_Fookup (1519 posts) -
This game should be fine if Obsidian is allowed to do what they do best.

A proper Fallout game and not another sloppy FPS with some RPG elements.
Hire voice actors with talent.
Hire writers with talent.
#17 Edited by JudgeDread (572 posts) -
Icemael said:
"MattyFTM said:
"I want a decent third person view."
I found that the third-person view in Fallout 3 worked pretty well - I just zoomed in until the character's legs couldn't be seen. That way it didn't look like my character was skating.

As for what I'd like to see, a night-vision perk would be really neat. It would be perfect for a stealth character(well, any type of character really, but stealth characters would benefit from it the most).
"
Night-Vision is available through mods for PC already. Excellent to use with a darker nights mod (makes things proper dark, dangerous dark).

I would like the possibility for gardening and collecting seeds as a side-quests. You could grow herbs, vegetables and drugs but you have to find healthy plants or seeds first.

Proper guilds.

A Paradroid perk for people with science over 100

#18 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
Captain_Fookup said:
"
This game should be fine if Obsidian is allowed to do what they do best.

A proper Fallout game and not another sloppy FPS with some RPG elements.
Hire voice actors with talent.
Hire writers with talent.
"
well if they make a top down game like the old ones I say fuck you obsidian
and plus it won't be like that because the whole reason its coming out next year is because they are going to use the same engine
if the have to build a whole new engine your looking at 4 more years and it would just be fallout 4 then
#19 Posted by RHCPfan24 (8609 posts) -

A non-VATS combat system that isn't crappy? Am I hoping too much?

#20 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
RHCPfan24 said:
"A non-VATS combat system that isn't crappy? Am I hoping too much?"
but what would that be?
#21 Posted by hakunin (392 posts) -
Captain_Fookup said:
"
This game should be fine if Obsidian is allowed to do what they do best.

A proper Fallout game and not another sloppy FPS with some RPG elements.
Hire voice actors with talent.
Hire writers with talent.
"
Yep, basically this.
#22 Posted by Endogene (4741 posts) -
trophyhunter said:
"RHCPfan24 said:
"A non-VATS combat system that isn't crappy? Am I hoping too much?"
but what would that be?"
  Something like Valkyrie Chronicles i suppose.
#23 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11739 posts) -

I speculate that this will be either an attempt to make a hybrid between old and new (and make the combat good), or a more of the same sequel that manages to cheapen the brand (which is the one I am leaning toward).

Obsidian made KotOR 2, they know how to make a bad sequel, but they also made NWN2, which means they know how to make a good sequel. But a lot of Obsidian staff also made the original Fallout games, which means that they know Fallout (as overrated as those two games have become). So the real answer is that I guess I need more information to really make a judgment on this game.

#24 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
Endogene said:
"trophyhunter said:
"RHCPfan24 said:
"A non-VATS combat system that isn't crappy? Am I hoping too much?"
but what would that be?"
  Something like Valkyrie Chronicles i suppose. "
hmmmm that does not sound to bad actually
#25 Posted by Captain_Fookup (1519 posts) -
trophyhunter said:
"Captain_Fookup said:
"
This game should be fine if Obsidian is allowed to do what they do best.

A proper Fallout game and not another sloppy FPS with some RPG elements.
Hire voice actors with talent.
Hire writers with talent.
"
well if they make a top down game like the old ones I say fuck you obsidian and plus it won't be like that because the whole reason its coming out next year is because they are going to use the same engineif the have to build a whole new engine your looking at 4 more years and it would just be fallout 4 then "
I'm not talking about the ISOMETRIC views from the originals, I'm talking about the atmosphere and feel which is completely different from Fallivion. The engine is there and has been around for almost a decade. Obsidian will have more time to focus on the plot, characters, locations, and gameplay which are key components in an RPG which Bethslop hasn't been able to comprehend.
#26 Posted by VilhelmNielsen (1735 posts) -

Not a first person shooter or Third-person view, perhaps not isometric, but at least not the first two.

#27 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
VilhelmNielsen said:
"Not a first person shooter or Third-person view, perhaps not isometric, but at least not the first two."
whats left 2nd person?
#28 Posted by steelharrison (116 posts) -
trophyhunter said:
"actual side quests  the world to not look so ugly and boring more weapons and armorbetter character customizing new perks much higher level cap like 50 play after ending "
pretty much that but espically the world not looking so ugly and boring even though it kinda has to for the setting
#29 Posted by jakob187 (21671 posts) -

I want Obsidian off the project.

#30 Posted by BananaHammock (141 posts) -

If they made a traditional fallout game in this day and age that game would fuckin suck and I would not buy it. Why would you try to play a first person game in third person? Also I happened to like vats and i dont see what was so bad about it.

#31 Posted by Ferginator4k (737 posts) -

as long as they keep the fallout feel , ill be good with it

#32 Posted by BoG (5191 posts) -
MattyFTM said:
"I want a decent third person view."
Agreed. To be honest, I would love it if they just spent a whole lot of time fixing the engine. Polish the gameplay, smooth out the movement, and make VATS feel more like classic Fallout combat. 
#33 Posted by Fracture (149 posts) -

Hopefully they will handle the fallout series similarly to how GTA was, where we get 3 games in different locations around the country before the next numeric iteration is released.

Other than that, I'd say make the world a bit more "perpetual" than it was. It would be nice to feel like you live there rather than just passing by.

More radio stations that have a different variety of music. Doesn't have to be modern stuff, just more music and more stations would be nice.

#34 Posted by BoG (5191 posts) -
Fracture said:
"Hopefully they will handle the fallout series similarly to how GTA was, where we get 3 games in different locations around the country before the next numeric iteration is released.Other than that, I'd say make the world a bit more "perpetual" than it was. It would be nice to feel like you live there rather than just passing by.More radio stations that have a different variety of music. Doesn't have to be modern stuff, just more music and more stations would be nice."
You know fracture, the Fallout series pulling a GTA might work well. A lot of the fun I had in Fallout 3 was exploring dystopic DC, seeing the sights, something I'll probably do in this Vegas version as well. The more I think about it, I really could enjoy exploring all of the hotels. I'm sure they won't get the rights to all of them, but I at least hope they mimic all of the major attractions on the strip. I wonder what a raider wedding chapel might look like...
#35 Posted by bwooduhs (1617 posts) -

I want Fallout 3 in Vegas with less bugs.

#36 Posted by Systech (4078 posts) -
Pibo47 said:
"A) A fallout game.B) Actually give us some more quests than...32  i think...C) a real fallout game."
You seriously want a new Fallout game made Interplay style? Come on. That gameplay method has become pretty dated over the years.
#37 Posted by Karmum (11519 posts) -

I don't want the shooting to suck, a good third-person view, and I want the movement to actually look fluid. I know that last one is nit-picking, but I was always bothered by the way the character moved in Oblivion, and in Fallout 3.

#38 Posted by Pibo47 (3166 posts) -
systech said:
"Pibo47 said:
"A) A fallout game.B) Actually give us some more quests than...32  i think...C) a real fallout game."
You seriously want a new Fallout game made Interplay style? Come on. That gameplay method has become pretty dated over the years."
Dated yes, but so has Diablo II. And that game is still great. Fallout should never have been a fps. I love fallout 3, but i want the old fallout back. TBH i really would just like TES5...but this will have to do.
#39 Posted by sgt_match (121 posts) -

VATS was cool. what's your prob peeps.  FO 3 was not a FPS with rpg elements.  In fact, there is no reason an FPS cannot be an RPG.  Role playing is just that, you have a single character who you can modify with stats (even that is a fairly strict definition.)  The term first person shooter doesn't infringe on Role Playing Game in any manner.  The combat doesn't have to be turn based or clickety clickety clikety to be be an RPG (X-men Legends, Kingdom Hearts).  FPSRPG could be its own subgenre. However, I wouldn't call Fallout 3 a strict FPS in any case.  Vats added a turn based system and I dug it.   It was a good system.

We should be asking for improvements on that system.  I want things like targed melee and better rewards for targeting limbs.  Enemies that don't just pick up their weapon again and shoot you as if you hadn't just blown their weapon out of their grasp.  Weapon breakage and better crippling effect would be cool.  Also... maybe dismemberment doesn't necessarily mean death?  you could have a raider crawl towards you after you blow his leg off.  Maybe VATS executions and finishing animations for enemies with low health? Dunno about that last part, it could be really wonky.

As for the quests, Fallout's quests were WAAAAY better than Oblivion's. Simple fetching and dungeon clearing quests are played out.  I really dug the branching, moral dillema quests in Fallout 3.  Maybe dump a bunch of the fetch and clear the dungeon type quests on top of the 32 more complex ones. 

BTW - slot machine gun? brilliant.  It wouldn't be that hard to make it make sense in vegas. You could get the schematic from a guy obssessed with lady luck.  Three lightening bolts means electrical damage. Three Snowflakes means ice damage? cool.  Maybe there is a cult  who worships the raw power of chance.  Like rolls dice in order to determine if they have you kill somebody.  Any maybe they are in charge of the guards in that area.  You could need to kill somebody and you bring their name to this group. They roll the dice and decide if they are going to let you kill that person. It could actually be random. 

#40 Edited by Hitchenson (4682 posts) -

Man, people bash Fallout 3 so much. It's an amazing game, quit whinning that it doesn't meet your precious Fallout/Fallout 2 standards, jeez. Anyway, I hope for more settlements, keep VAT'S, more stuff to do, and a higher level cap. Yeah, that's about it.

#41 Posted by natetodamax (19206 posts) -
Karmum said:
I don't want the shooting to suck, a good third-person view, and I want the movement to actually look fluid. ... [more]
Hitchenson said:
Man, people bash Fallout 3 so much. It's an amazing game, quit whinning that it doesn't meet your precious Fallout/Fallout 2 standards, ... [more]
I agree with these statements.
#42 Posted by Death_Unicorn (2838 posts) -

I want them to improve some of the flaws of Fallout 3, and then just make another huge map to explore. Basically, this:

bwooduhs said:
I want Fallout 3 in Vegas with less bugs.

#43 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1145 posts) -

I'd like to see the shooting mechanics tightened up a little bit, along with more dynamic dialogue options and more detailed animations. I think there's a lot of potential here and definitely something to be excited about. Hopefully, having some of the original team can help them seamlessly bring the atmosphere along while ironing out all the kinks that got in the way of Fallout 3. 


I know there's some pessimism floating around over the idea of  "rushed sequel to cash-in," but really, there's the chance that it could end up as a near perfect game. The flaws and weaknesses of 3 have been made pretty apparent (the useless, and now tired I feel, derailing of it for not being a "true" sequel, aside), and there's no excuse really for these things to be fixed, specifically when so many other aspects of development are now easier. Granted, a lot of the "newness" of seeing the series move into the first-person/third-person will be gone, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed for an even deeper, more refined experience.
#44 Posted by MaxPower13124 (18 posts) -

I would love to see a chip shooting gun!  The Ghoul Casino sounds cool!  Or Ghoul shows like the ones they have in Vegas, Cirque de Ghoule anyone?

#45 Posted by baba2 (275 posts) -

I'd like to be able to carry my character over. Not fussed about weapons or whatever, I've just grown attached to the character I've spent way over 70 hours crafting.

#46 Posted by samcotts (2258 posts) -
@Hitchenson said:
" Man, people bash Fallout 3 so much. It's an amazing game, quit whinning that it doesn't meet your precious Fallout/Fallout 2 standards, jeez. Anyway, I hope for more settlements, keep VAT'S, more stuff to do, and a higher level cap. Yeah, that's about it. "
@bwooduhs said:
" I want Fallout 3 in Vegas with less bugs. "
I agree with the above.

Fallout 3 is probably my favourite game ever, and I would be delighted if New Vegas is pretty much the same, just in a new location with some small improvements. More settlements would be good, Fallout 3 could of done with a bit more life. There were plenty of locations to explore, just not that many inhabited with humans other than raiders. A higher level cap is a must.
#47 Posted by HAMMERCLAW (298 posts) -

I hope it's every bit as good as Fallout 3, or better, and that people who hated Fallout 3, hate it. too. That way, it's bound to be a great game, I'll love.

#48 Posted by AgentJ (8778 posts) -

Why do people always say these sorts of topics are "official" when there is nothing "official" about them? If anything, it should be called "unofficial".

#49 Posted by Dasacant2 (233 posts) -
  • More variety in the environments
  • More character customization options (perhaps adding a body type option)
  • More perks
  • higher level cap.

I really really loved fallout 3 I hope that they don't change it too much to be honest.
#50 Posted by PWNER01 (6 posts) -
@pseudomyxoma:
Something also that would be cool is if they make a gun that shoots casino chips lol.

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