People who think fallout new vegas is just an addon

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#1 Posted by bcooper56 (328 posts) -

 I just mad list of all new players
 
 -Hardcore mode; Deal with hunger, thirst, and sleep to survive the harsh wastelands.
-Iron Sights; V.A.T.S boring? Try the new iron sights and aim in on your target. Brings live action aiming to Fallout.
-Loads of Quest; 70 Side Quest, 90 Free, and (From what we know) 20 Main quest.
-Companion Wheel; Makes it easier to command your companions
-Companion Quest; Find out your companions background by helping them with one of their issues.
-New Companions; Ever NEW GAME needs a few new friends. There are 8 Companions. Here is the Companions
-Reputation System; Karma is a state of mind, Diffrent groups can see you as good or bad, even if you butchered another band of wastelanders.
-Factions; 3 main factions, and many sub-factions. Each factions you choose will affect your game
-Extensive Replay Value; From what we know, the story can end many, many ways. You can help NCR, or Ceaser Legion, or Mr. House... All fighting for Hover Dam... Or you can be neutral (Merc, or Anarchiest).
-Epic new Story; You are a courier, your mission Deliver a package to primm. That is how it starts, yet it ends with, an epic battle that can change the fate of New Vegas.
-Gambling; It is vegas, of course there will be gambling!
-Huge New Map; This is around 2000-3000 miles away from Fallout 3 (How could this be an "Expansion")
-New Monsters; Monsters un-seen in fallout 3, and mutants smarter than those in Washington D.C
-New Armour; Yes there may be some garbs from Fallout 3, but there is many new outfits special to the west coast.
-Improved AI; The AI is smarter (As we somewhat have heard)
-Improved Reload Scripts; The reload scripts are 10x more AWSOME
-Vegetation; Seeing as New Vegas it self was not hit directly by a nuclear bomb there is Plant life. Don't think that Vegas came under brutal times, because you will find out!
-New Perks; These perks will add more Variety to characters, and will also be achieved every 2 levels
-Traits; You can choose two at the start of the game, they affect play threw out the game. They have a good and a bad part to them, Choose wisley.
-Wild Wastelander; This is a trait, a special one. You are a loopy man, the weirdest encounters happen when you are traveling about in the wastelands.
-Improved Dialouge; The game was created by obsidian. Obsidian has very good dialouge that improves the comedy, the seriousness, and the sexuality of talking.
-Weapon Mods; Tired of having to find a Silenced 10mm pistol, well then weapon mods are for you. Attach Silencers, Scopes, Extra Mags, etc. To improve your gun
-Bullet types; There are regular bullets, and then there are those that kill! Now find yourself some special ammo (Open tip, etc. Im not sure of the types).
-Crafting System; No longer just craft a few weapons. There is now a wide variety of recipes. You can make food, Diffrent Ammo Types, and Weapons, with Improved Crafting.
-And even more; I'm stumped, all these new features get jumbled in my mind.

#2 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5806 posts) -

It looks awesome to me.
 
But seriously, I'm waiting for it to actually come out before I form any kind of opinion.

#3 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -

Also AC brotherhood is a full on game, not an add-on.
In fact it's twice of a game than AC2.

#4 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8698 posts) -

Their loss, really.
If they had any interest in it, they would have done research or wait till they have confirmation.

#5 Posted by TheRandomKo (240 posts) -

it will be tough to tell how the game will be.. it looks VERY similar to Fallout 3, but the interviews make it sound like they made some significant improvements.. i really hope they did something new.. i'm sick and tired of the Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine.. it just feels kind of old by now..

#6 Posted by Animasta (14648 posts) -
@TheRandomKo said:
" it will be tough to tell how the game will be.. it looks VERY similar to Fallout 3, but the interviews make it sound like they made some significant improvements.. i really hope they did something new.. i'm sick and tired of the Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine.. it just feels kind of old by now.. "
and they're totally going to use it for their next game! hooray! (bethesda, that is)
#7 Posted by DystopiaX (5293 posts) -
@TaliciaDragonsong said:
" Their loss, really. If they had any interest in it, they would have done research or wait till they have confirmation. "
Seriously. And even if it was a expansion pack type thing, I love fallout so much I don't really care.
#8 Posted by Emilio (3380 posts) -

It sounds like Fallout 2. 
But sadly, it is still only an expansion. Like Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2.

#9 Posted by GoofyGoober (937 posts) -

I want get it, it just won't be this year.

#10 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

Who care what they think? Let's enjoy the game.

#11 Posted by TheRandomKo (240 posts) -
@Laketown said:
" @TheRandomKo said:
" it will be tough to tell how the game will be.. it looks VERY similar to Fallout 3, but the interviews make it sound like they made some significant improvements.. i really hope they did something new.. i'm sick and tired of the Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine.. it just feels kind of old by now.. "
and they're totally going to use it for their next game! hooray! (bethesda, that is) "
 
I haven't played Elder scrolls 1 or 2, but Morrowind had the SAME GODDAMN ENGINE!
#12 Posted by Jikla (158 posts) -

For me new vegas seems a lot like fallout 3 with some tweaks to me. And that doesn't help much since I really disliked fallout 3. But I guess it's a good game for fallout fans ^^

#13 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8698 posts) -
@DystopiaX: 
Exactly how it should be! =)
#14 Posted by natetodamax (19171 posts) -

I'm definitely interested in the game. It doesn't look all that great visually but hey, Fallout 3 kinda looked like crap and it turned out to be one of my favorite games ever.

#15 Posted by Ignor (2372 posts) -

"New" Las Vegas, eh? Finally, a true Wasteland sequel!

#16 Edited by Fudgeblood (217 posts) -

New Vegas is sort of just a full priced expansion, it's taken Fallout 3, expanded a few things, added some stuff and changed some crap.  It still seems to be using/recycling alot of textures, features, models and such from Fallout 3. Most of these 'new' features can be included, or already were included via free mods and addons via PC. There are countless realism mods that have the same effect that this new hardcore mode has, there's also companions, iron sights, weapon mods and more added, even mods that fully vegetate the world with green grass and trees.
 
Also, if I wanted to gamble I'd go to a casino or play some online game. I'll still probably buy New Vegas for Christmas or something, more Fallout is surely a good thing.
 
EDIT: Now that I think about it, some of those features are probably pretty special for console gamers that don't have access to mods.

#17 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5806 posts) -
@Emilio: Wasn't Fallout 2 the exact same thing as Fallout only bigger and better? 
 
That's probably What New Vegas will be to Fallout 3.
#18 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Fudgeblood said:
" New Vegas is sort of just a full priced expansion, it's taken Fallout 3, expanded a few things, added some stuff and changed some crap.  It still seems to be using/recycling alot of textures, features, models and such from Fallout 3. Most of these 'new' features can be included, or already were included via free mods and addons via PC. There are countless realism mods that have the same effect that this new hardcore mode has, there's also companions, iron sights, weapon mods and more added, even mods that fully vegetate the world with green grass and trees.  Also, if I wanted to gamble I'd go to a casino or play some online game. I'll still probably buy New Vegas for Christmas or something, more Fallout is surely a good thing. "
You are just the worst kind of person.
#19 Posted by HypoXenophobia (1045 posts) -
@bcooper56 said:
"  I just mad list of all new players  
 ...
 -New Companions; Ever NEW GAME needs a few new friends. There are 8 Companions. Here is the Companions
What? I'm not trying to be a nuisance but what?
#20 Edited by Ravenousrattler (1417 posts) -

Really, some people think new vegas is just an add on?

#21 Posted by Fudgeblood (217 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "
Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still.
#22 Posted by Infininja (881 posts) -

I'll be honest, I didn't read your list because of your grammar.

#23 Posted by wolf_blitzer85 (5250 posts) -
@bcooper56 said:
 the sexuality of talking.
Yes.
#24 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Fudgeblood said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "
Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "
Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them?
#25 Posted by Fudgeblood (217 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "
Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "
Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them? "
What's ungrateful about mods? They let players modify the game to how they want to play.
#26 Posted by Dustpan (1690 posts) -

I guess Vice City and San Andreas were also addons.

#27 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

Most of what you listed could be applied to the Operation Anchorage expansion.

#28 Edited by Raymayne (1226 posts) -

Other great features include: 
 
- 5 minute load times to enter a building on consoles! 
- Terrible frame rate issues!  
- Screen-tearing!
- The same shitty graphics and animations from the last game! 
- Awful NPC interaction!  
- Loss of all the humour and charm that you would find in a Bethesda product!
 
Sorry, I love FO3, and I'm sure New Vegas is gonna be fun, but it is essentially FO3 re-skinned...don't try and sell it as anything else. Adding a faction system is about as lazy as sequel 'innovation' gets these days, and most of the other changes are minor as hell. This is not a great leap forward for the series, and it's not going to feel like a whole new game when I'm roaming yet another wasteland killing mutants in VATS. It'll be Bioshock 2 all over again, still fun, but oh so familiar.

#29 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -
@Fudgeblood said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "
Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "
Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them? "
What's ungrateful about mods? They let players modify the game to how they want to play. "
Trophy doesn't know anything at all about the PC mod scene.
#30 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Fudgeblood said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "
Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "
Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them? "
What's ungrateful about mods? They let players modify the game to how they want to play. "
They are giving us a brand new game with brand new stuff and you are saying "This sucks I could do all that myself."
Just because it has the same engine, does not mean it's the same game.  Then there are the console players 
((you know the people they actually want to buy the game, because that's where they actually make money.)) they have no mods
#31 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7240 posts) -
@Raymayne said:
" Other great features include:  - 5 minute load times to enter a building on consoles! - Terrible frame rate issues!  - Screen-tearing!- The same shitty graphics and animations from the last game! - Awful NPC interaction!  - Loss of all the humour and charm that you would find in a Bethesda product!
Get a gaming PC, play it on that, done. 
#32 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@ryanwho said:
" @Fudgeblood said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "
Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "
Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them? "
What's ungrateful about mods? They let players modify the game to how they want to play. "
Trophy doesn't know anything at all about the PC mod scene. "

Because PC players can shove it with both hands
#33 Posted by MiniPato (2721 posts) -
@JustTheDoctor said:
" I guess Vice City and San Andreas were also addons. "
Gamers just weren't as spoiled back then.
 
Sure, at first glance it looks like an addon, but this does not scream addon like the FEAR expansions. Fallout 3 is a huge ass game with a gargantuan world to explore with tons of shit to do. So to recreate a game experience of that scope and then just call it an addon is just plain fucking stupid. To me it's not about better graphics or features, it's about having another world to explore and scavenge through. What they're offering in New Vegas is more than enough to satisfy me. People who think this is just gonna be a Broken Steel or The Pitt addon need to pay attention to the games they rip on.
#34 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11478 posts) -

Yes, it's an all new game. But when you combine the fact that I have had my fill of fallout 3 after 40+ hours with Obsidian's pedigree (making games that are broken and unfinished. Which is great, because Fallout 3 was already broken and unfinished in a multitude of ways), at best, I will get this game when it is cheap. Not at full price.

#35 Posted by Fudgeblood (217 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "
Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "
Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them? "
What's ungrateful about mods? They let players modify the game to how they want to play. "
They are giving us a brand new game with brand new stuff and you are saying "This sucks I could do all that myself." Just because it has the same engine, does not mean it's the same game. "
I'm not saying it sucks, nor did I say it's the same game because of the same engine. I'm just telling the thread creator that most of his points don't really mean much because alot of these new features are possible through simple small downloads, and in a way, New Vegas could be sold as an expansion pack.
#36 Posted by awesomeusername (4154 posts) -
@MiniPato said:
" @JustTheDoctor said:
" I guess Vice City and San Andreas were also addons. "
Gamers just weren't as spoiled back then.  Sure, at first glance it looks like an addon, but this does not scream addon like the FEAR expansions. Fallout 3 is a huge ass game with a gargantuan world to explore with tons of shit to do. So to recreate a game experience of that scope and then just call it an addon is just plain fucking stupid. To me it's not about better graphics or features, it's about having another world to explore and scavenge through. What they're offering in New Vegas is more than enough to satisfy me. People who think this is just gonna be a Broken Steel or The Pitt addon need to pay attention to the games they rip on. "
HELL YEAH! YOU GET 'EM BRO!!!
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#37 Posted by DonChipotle (2693 posts) -

Dragon Age Origins: Awakening was an add-on. All it was was a side story with some (awesome, though not many) new skills, characters, and world (smaller in both scope an size).
 
 
Fallout: New Vegas isn't an add on. It may use the same engine as Fallout 3 but that doesn't make it an add on.

#38 Edited by ryanwho (12082 posts) -
@VelvetLore04 said:

" Dragon Age Origins: Awakening was an add-on. All it was was a side story with some (awesome, though not many) new skills, characters, and world (smaller in both scope an size).  Fallout: New Vegas isn't an add on. It may use the same engine as Fallout 3 but that doesn't make it an add on. "

You haven't really explained why DAOA, with its entirely new world, new crafting system, new cast of characters, and new story using the same engine is different than this. You just kind of said they were. As far as I can tell the only difference is you're not able to carry over your character. But then, you used a new character in Operation Anchorage. You people seem to be downplaying how substantial expansions can be. The King's Bounty expansions were just as big as the original game with an all new character on the other side of the world. What made them expansions was using a lot of the same assets. Same with the Age of Empire 3 expansions. The difference here is this game is charging itself like they built up something from scratch. Most devs sell expansions for half price or less. Its an integrity thing.
#39 Posted by MooseyMcMan (10484 posts) -

Still just sounds like an add-on to me. ;) 
 
In all seriousness, I'm pretty pumped, and am just waiting for reviews so I can find out which version is the least glitchy (not counting PC, I don't have a gaming computer). 

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#40 Posted by therealnelsk (276 posts) -

Your spelling made me want to kill myself, but good list nonetheless.

#41 Posted by fentonalpha (819 posts) -
@Infininja said:
" I'll be honest, I didn't read your list because of your grammar. "
Agreed. There's a lot of unfinished sentences in them there hills.
 
Side thought:  I hope the weird little alien things come back... the ones that looked like black beach-balls with fins on the end of long testicles ( auto spell check changed this and i like it more)
#42 Posted by samcotts (2258 posts) -
@MiniPato said:
" @JustTheDoctor said:
" I guess Vice City and San Andreas were also addons. "
Gamers just weren't as spoiled back then.  Sure, at first glance it looks like an addon, but this does not scream addon like the FEAR expansions. Fallout 3 is a huge ass game with a gargantuan world to explore with tons of shit to do. So to recreate a game experience of that scope and then just call it an addon is just plain fucking stupid. To me it's not about better graphics or features, it's about having another world to explore and scavenge through. What they're offering in New Vegas is more than enough to satisfy me. People who think this is just gonna be a Broken Steel or The Pitt addon need to pay attention to the games they rip on. "
 This. Exactly.
#43 Posted by TheBlackPigeon (314 posts) -

(waits for somebody to come in and blame it on CoD or Halo kidz, or something.)  : p

#44 Posted by RE_Player1 (7550 posts) -

It's more like Fallout 3.5

#45 Posted by BionicMonster (1032 posts) -

most of those points are just expanding stuff from Fallout 3.

#46 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@ryanwho said:
" @VelvetLore04 said:

" Dragon Age Origins: Awakening was an add-on. All it was was a side story with some (awesome, though not many) new skills, characters, and world (smaller in both scope an size).  Fallout: New Vegas isn't an add on. It may use the same engine as Fallout 3 but that doesn't make it an add on. "

You haven't really explained why DAOA, with its entirely new world, new crafting system, new cast of characters, and new story using the same engine is different than this. You just kind of said they were. As far as I can tell the only difference is you're not able to carry over your character. But then, you used a new character in Operation Anchorage. You people seem to be downplaying how substantial expansions can be. The King's Bounty expansions were just as big as the original game with an all new character on the other side of the world. What made them expansions was using a lot of the same assets. Same with the Age of Empire 3 expansions. The difference here is this game is charging itself like they built up something from scratch. Most devs sell expansions for half price or less. Its an integrity thing. "
whether I like it or not hahaha
#47 Posted by Sackmanjones (4652 posts) -
@bcooper56:  You should add that there are 200 main locations and 200 sub locations as well. Also read a first impression of a reviewer who is 12 hrs in. Made a fact that NV is just as if not bigger than fallout 3.  Good list though. 2 more days!
#48 Posted by Emilio (3380 posts) -
@Axxol said:
" Who care what they think? Let's enjoy the game. "
That's the right way to think! 
 
@FancySoapsMan:  
Pretty much.
#49 Posted by heatDrive88 (2268 posts) -
@RE_Player92 said:
" It's more like Fallout 3.5 "
This is probably the most accurate. 
 
I wouldn't just call Fallout New Vegas an add-on or expansion by any means, but I wouldn't go as far as calling it "Fallout 4" either, and thankfully the game doesn't want to give that impression either which is perfectly fine. While the laundry list of improvements and additions can look a lot like just an add-on expansion pack, I think there's enough content there and certainly enough longevity to a playthrough that will match the original Fallout 3, so it still warrants itself as a fully fledged game on it's own. 
 
So while it's definitely a "new game", just don't go and start calling this Fallout 4 or a full-out Fallout 3 sequel.
#50 Posted by nick_verissimo (1380 posts) -

The game honestly feels like it's following the sports game model in a sense (with the exception of not releasing a game yearly).  Take what you had from the previous game and improve what didn't work so well, while taking the things that did work well and make them more interesting.  To that add a couple new mechanics that change the way you may have played before while still keeping the feel of the previous iteration.  Fallout 3 was a very good game and New Vegas is bound to be a very good game as well, but I can understand some of the dissent in the ranks.

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