This game is great.

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#1 Posted by Syndrom (350 posts) -

Man this is my GOTY for sure. Game is so cool. Engaging story so far. And the open world you get to mess around in is so great. I never liked Farcry 2 but this one has got me hooked so bad.

#2 Posted by Blastroid (257 posts) -

Though it was out of the 4th. I got it on my Steam wishlist.

#3 Posted by laserbolts (5310 posts) -

@Syndrom: What version are you playing? I was considering picking up the 360 version when it comes out but im not sure if I should or not.

#4 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

How much freedom does the game give you to do whatever you please and go wherever you want?

How much room is there for you to create unique scenarios with unpredictable outcomes? Do you have to mow down the enemy AI before the jam they spread on your screen, like mindless robots, fills up the screen, or can you mess around with them like they are real people?

In other words, how Crysis is this Crysis-ish game?

#5 Posted by Abendlaender (2736 posts) -

@Blastroid said:

Though it was out of the 4th. I got it on my Steam wishlist.

Game is already out in Europe. And man, it is fucking amazing. I love it. It kinda reminds me of Stalker somehow......I need more Open World Shooters.

#6 Posted by Grimhild (721 posts) -

@Abendlaender:

Is the co-op open world, or is it just set piece missions. Still can't get a definitive idea on that, and I'd really like to run amok on the island with friends.

#7 Posted by Syndrom (350 posts) -

@Blastroid said:

Though it was out of the 4th. I got it on my Steam wishlist.

I'm a europe duder :)

@laserbolts said:

@Syndrom: What version are you playing? I was considering picking up the 360 version when it comes out but im not sure if I should or not.

I'm playing it on the PS3, it's fine but the framerate can get sketchy in cutscenes. But if you have a beefy pc, go for that version for sure.

@AhmadMetallic said:

How much freedom does the game give you to do whatever you please and go wherever you want?

How much room is there for you to create unique scenarios with unpredictable outcomes? Do you have to mow down the enemy AI before the jam they spread on your screen, like mindless robots, fills up the screen, or can you mess around with them like they are real people?

In other words, how Crysis is this Crysis-ish game?

As soon as the game opens up and that's about 45 minutes in, you're free to do whatever the hell you please. I spend about 2-3 hours just doing random stuff before i did a major story quest. Even when you start a quest you still are free to muck about.

You can in to pretty crazy situations, i was scouting out an outpost and i noticed two tigers lurking about, i threw rocks to lure them to the outpost and then all hell broke loose, the tigers mauled everyone in sight and i cleared the outpost undedected.

Here's another example, i was preparing to take an outpost, and i got jumped by a tiger, i panicked and started shooting with an unsilenced gun and the guards called in reinforcements, so all hell broke loose again but not in my favor.

The ai is pretty competent it seems and in combination with the dangerous wildlife things can get hairy pretty fast. I was running from a sketchy situation and i ran right into a tiger, i died.

this game is crysis 2 but without the crazy superpowers. But man stalking in the grass with the bow in the middle of a thunderstorm is the most badass feeling i had all year in a game.

This is the kind of world and characters Skyrim should have given. Vaas is an absolute master as a bad guy.

#8 Posted by gaminghooligan (1403 posts) -

glad to hear it's good. have you played with the map editor any? Is it possible to set up a singleplayer level you create as the trailers seem to suggest?

#9 Posted by Abendlaender (2736 posts) -

@Syndrom: Hmmm...Crysis 2 was pretty linear, this game kinda reminds me of Stalker, if Stalker was set on a tropical island and had less gameplay quirks.

@Grimhild said:

@Abendlaender:

Is the co-op open world, or is it just set piece missions. Still can't get a definitive idea on that, and I'd really like to run amok on the island with friends.

I haven't played Co-Op but I think it's just missions cause there are achievments for "clearing Map XYZ in Co-Op". Not sure about that though

#10 Posted by MikkaQ (10264 posts) -

Yeah this game is really cool. It's a lot of fun to run around the island completing the side missions and unlocking the radio towers. Shooting feels good like it did in Far Cry 2 but the weapons don't jam and you don't have to scour for malaria pills. Also enemies aren't placed every 10 feet like in the last game, so it seems they fixed everything blatantly awful about FC2.

It just does a few silly things like limit how much money you can carry until you can craft a bigger wallet, Zelda style. I probably lost about 1000 bucks because my wallet was always full.

Progression here seems somewhat uneven. I couldn't find the one pig I needed to upgrade my wallet. Then when I finally did find a pig I had enough of the right skins from the other animals to make all the other tiers of wallet. Same thing happened with holsters, couldn't find a goat for a while then I found one and suddenly I could craft every other holster and carry the maximum amount of guns. So I went from feeling broke and underpowered to grizzled island warrior within half an hour.

I haven't played enough of the missions to tell how those go, but just doing side stuff is great. I can approach it as sneaky or loud as I want. Though being sneaky and using silencers seems to be overwhelmingly beneficial and going guns-blazing doesn't seem as empowering as it should.

#11 Posted by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -

@Syndrom said:

Man stalking in the grass with the bow in the middle of a thunderstorm is the most badass feeling i had all year in a game.

If I wasn't already in the process of installing the game, you'd have sold me on it all over again.

Soon!

#12 Posted by Syndrom (350 posts) -

@Abendlaender said:

@Syndrom: Hmmm...Crysis 2 was pretty linear, this game kinda reminds me of Stalker, if Stalker was set on a tropical island and had less gameplay quirks.

@Grimhild said:

@Abendlaender:

Is the co-op open world, or is it just set piece missions. Still can't get a definitive idea on that, and I'd really like to run amok on the island with friends.

I haven't played Co-Op but I think it's just missions cause there are achievments for "clearing Map XYZ in Co-Op". Not sure about that though

By crysis 2 i meant the actual succesor to crysis. Yeah but the stalker comparison is good too, but with less rpg elements.

I haven't touched Co-op / mp or the map editor.

#13 Posted by Blastroid (257 posts) -

This screenshot alone sold the game for me:

#14 Posted by Yummylee (21208 posts) -

You're playing the PS3 version, too? Man, I wish I could simply look past the poor framerate as you have, because while the game does conceptually look fantastic, the framerate being like at a constant 20 or so fps is ruining the entire game for me.

#15 Posted by MikkaQ (10264 posts) -

@Blastroid said:

This screenshot alone sold the game for me:

Dogs keep sneaking up on me and doing this and it scares the piss out me every time. EVERY TIME!

#16 Posted by boj4ngles (287 posts) -

Very happy to hear that it is good. Is the story telling better than Far Cry 2? I liked that game but I thought they needed to work on the story telling mechanics. The narrative got a little incoherent as the game went on.

#17 Posted by Jimbo (9769 posts) -

@Blastroid said:

This screenshot alone sold the game for me:

Coolest shoes I ever saw.

#18 Posted by Syndrom (350 posts) -

@Yummylee said:

You're playing the PS3 version, too? Man, I wish I could simply look past the poor framerate as you have, because while the game does conceptually look fantastic, the framerate being like at a constant 20 or so fps is ruining the entire game for me.

Hmm it's not that high, but i think it's higher than 20 man. But i don't have issues with it. And i stopped playing AC3 cause of the crappy framerate.

@boj4ngles said:

Very happy to hear that it is good. Is the story telling better than Far Cry 2? I liked that game but I thought they needed to work on the story telling mechanics. The narrative got a little incoherent as the game went on.

It's much better, jason (the dude you're playing as) is constantly evolving. And the other characters are great too, but vaas steals the show as supreme badass.

#19 Posted by notdavid (815 posts) -

@Syndrom: Have they made good on the rich white kid douchebag on an island premise yet?

#20 Posted by onarum (1999 posts) -

I have to wait 5 freaking days still...

#21 Posted by Syndrom (350 posts) -

@notdavid said:

@Syndrom: Have they made good on the rich white kid douchebag on an island premise yet?

yeah man, when the game starts (like jeff says in the quicklook) you wanna punch these dudes. And he's really whiny at the start, but like i said he evolves into a role where he becomes this nutcase who starts to like killing.

the only thing that kinda breaks the immersion, is the fact that you can pick up a AK and start to use it rather effectively. I guess guns aren't that hard to master but still kinda weird. And i guess that's to keep things rolling instead in a game like stalker where shit is really hard in the beginning.

#22 Posted by allworkandlowpay (874 posts) -

@Syndrom: The hardest thing about a gun is honestly learning it's reload mechanisms. Every manufacturer always seems to have a different spot for a release tab, and it's annoying. Other than that, in the close proximity he is in, he really just needs to understand that if he points at a person and pulls the trigger they die.

Now using sniper rifles on the other hand ... that takes a bit more practice, but who knows, maybe he used to be a sports hunter?

#23 Posted by ProfessorEss (7254 posts) -

@GetEveryone said:

@Syndrom said:

Man stalking in the grass with the bow in the middle of a thunderstorm is the most badass feeling i had all year in a game.

If I wasn't already in the process of installing the game, you'd have sold me on it all over again.

Yes! That's the type of shit I play for.

For me there is no cutscene or controlled sequence that can match the awesomeness of when a set of variables come togehter, totally by chance, to form a perfect moment.

#24 Posted by Syndrom (350 posts) -

@ProfessorEss said:

@GetEveryone said:

@Syndrom said:

Man stalking in the grass with the bow in the middle of a thunderstorm is the most badass feeling i had all year in a game.

If I wasn't already in the process of installing the game, you'd have sold me on it all over again.

Yes! That's the type of shit I play for.

For me there is no cutscene or controlled sequence that can match the awesomeness of when a set of variables come togehter, totally by chance, to form a perfect moment.

This game definitely has that!

#25 Posted by Lukeweizer (2588 posts) -

I'm really torn on what platform to play it on. I bought the game about 18 months ago during an E3 sale on Bestbuy.ca for $40. But since that time, I've built a gaming PC and that's usually what I'm playing on anyway since I live with my girlfriend and don't have immediate access to the TV. But I just grew up on console gaming, so it's hard to let it go. Plus, I already got a cheap console copy. But I know I'd appreciate a better looking/ running game if I got it on PC. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. Someone hold me...

#26 Posted by Syndrom (350 posts) -

@Lukeweizer said:

I'm really torn on what platform to play it on. I bought the game about 18 months ago during an E3 sale on Bestbuy.ca for $40. But since that time, I've built a gaming PC and that's usually what I'm playing on anyway since I live with my girlfriend and don't have immediate access to the TV. But I just grew up on console gaming, so it's hard to let it go. Plus, I already got a cheap console copy. But I know I'd appreciate a better looking/ running game if I got it on PC. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. Someone hold me...

go for the pc version.

#27 Posted by murisan (1119 posts) -

This GAME. I just met the girl from the trailers.. the native one..

Also, I can finally combo takedowns, and I CROUCH-RUN YESSSS

#28 Posted by DougCL (208 posts) -

i dont have it yet, but on the bombcast they were talking about them fighting bears. where in the world is there an island where both bears and tigers exist?

#29 Edited by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -

@Syndrom said:

@ProfessorEss said:

@GetEveryone said:

@Syndrom said:

Man stalking in the grass with the bow in the middle of a thunderstorm is the most badass feeling i had all year in a game.

If I wasn't already in the process of installing the game, you'd have sold me on it all over again.

Yes! That's the type of shit I play for.

For me there is no cutscene or controlled sequence that can match the awesomeness of when a set of variables come togehter, totally by chance, to form a perfect moment.

This game definitely has that!

Emergent gameplay, friend.

From my first couple of hours with the game, I'm really impressed. Can't wait to spend some more time with it.

Edit: Also, the bow is the TITS!

#30 Posted by allworkandlowpay (874 posts) -

@DougCL said:

where in the world is there an island where both bears and tigers exist?

Where all your wildest dreams become reality!

#31 Posted by Ares42 (2559 posts) -

Been having a lot of fun with it today, but I'm afraid it's a tad too front-loaded. While it's nice to not have anything hidden I'm having a hard time seeing that doing these same things over and over will still be fun by the time I reach the end of the story. It just seems like the game will be better if you mainly focus on the story and only do the secondary stuff you stumble over on your way there, but at the same time the rewards you get from doing secondary stuff are just amazing. I'm not even a third into the game yet and I've gotten several rewards that are close to game-breaking because I've focused on secondary objectives.

#32 Posted by JasonR86 (9587 posts) -

But what about the super-duper icky uber rich bro-dudes we need to so desperately kill?

Online
#33 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

@ProfessorEss said:

For me there is no cutscene or controlled sequence that can match the awesomeness of when a set of variables come togehter, totally by chance, to form a perfect moment.

And Bam, there you have it.

#34 Edited by Chontamenti (153 posts) -

I agree this game is fantastic!

Playing the 360-Version and I'm happy with it. Clearly the PC-Version would be the way to go, but I don't have a PC with this capabilities.

Yesterday I said I'll pick this up because of the hunting stuff, and man it is great!

Probably a good candidate for GOTY..!

#35 Posted by ProfessorEss (7254 posts) -

@allworkandlowpay said:

@DougCL said:

where in the world is there an island where both bears and tigers exist?

Where all your wildest dreams become reality!

Dreams?

...or NIGHTMARES!!

#36 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

@Syndrom said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

How much freedom does the game give you to do whatever you please and go wherever you want?

How much room is there for you to create unique scenarios with unpredictable outcomes? Do you have to mow down the enemy AI before the jam they spread on your screen, like mindless robots, fills up the screen, or can you mess around with them like they are real people?

In other words, how Crysis is this Crysis-ish game?

As soon as the game opens up and that's about 45 minutes in, you're free to do whatever the hell you please. I spend about 2-3 hours just doing random stuff before i did a major story quest. Even when you start a quest you still are free to muck about.

You can in to pretty crazy situations, i was scouting out an outpost and i noticed two tigers lurking about, i threw rocks to lure them to the outpost and then all hell broke loose, the tigers mauled everyone in sight and i cleared the outpost undedected.

Here's another example, i was preparing to take an outpost, and i got jumped by a tiger, i panicked and started shooting with an unsilenced gun and the guards called in reinforcements, so all hell broke loose again but not in my favor.

The ai is pretty competent it seems and in combination with the dangerous wildlife things can get hairy pretty fast. I was running from a sketchy situation and i ran right into a tiger, i died.

this game is crysis 2 but without the crazy superpowers. But man stalking in the grass with the bow in the middle of a thunderstorm is the most badass feeling i had all year in a game.

This is the kind of world and characters Skyrim should have given. Vaas is an absolute master as a bad guy.

Sounds cool.

Can I quick save? Remove the "I'm about to get detected" indicator? Use 1-8 as hotkeys? Remove the flashing highlight on dead bodies? Filter/remove the icons crowding the minimap? Zoom in/out of the minimap, and customize it?

#37 Posted by murisan (1119 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic: Nope.

#38 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

@murisan said:

@AhmadMetallic: Nope.

to ALL questions? o.O

#39 Posted by MikkaQ (10264 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic said:

@Syndrom said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

How much freedom does the game give you to do whatever you please and go wherever you want?

How much room is there for you to create unique scenarios with unpredictable outcomes? Do you have to mow down the enemy AI before the jam they spread on your screen, like mindless robots, fills up the screen, or can you mess around with them like they are real people?

In other words, how Crysis is this Crysis-ish game?

As soon as the game opens up and that's about 45 minutes in, you're free to do whatever the hell you please. I spend about 2-3 hours just doing random stuff before i did a major story quest. Even when you start a quest you still are free to muck about.

You can in to pretty crazy situations, i was scouting out an outpost and i noticed two tigers lurking about, i threw rocks to lure them to the outpost and then all hell broke loose, the tigers mauled everyone in sight and i cleared the outpost undedected.

Here's another example, i was preparing to take an outpost, and i got jumped by a tiger, i panicked and started shooting with an unsilenced gun and the guards called in reinforcements, so all hell broke loose again but not in my favor.

The ai is pretty competent it seems and in combination with the dangerous wildlife things can get hairy pretty fast. I was running from a sketchy situation and i ran right into a tiger, i died.

this game is crysis 2 but without the crazy superpowers. But man stalking in the grass with the bow in the middle of a thunderstorm is the most badass feeling i had all year in a game.

This is the kind of world and characters Skyrim should have given. Vaas is an absolute master as a bad guy.

Sounds cool.

Can I quick save? Remove the "I'm about to get detected" indicator? Use 1-8 as hotkeys? Remove the flashing highlight on dead bodies? Filter/remove the icons crowding the minimap? Zoom in/out of the minimap, and customize it?

It looks like you get more fun out of tweaking a game than playing it.

#40 Posted by Azteck (7450 posts) -

Tried co-op any? I'm very interested in knowing if it's any good, and if so I might pick it up with some friends.

#41 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

@MikkaQ: The playing is not fun if I can't tweak feces off my screen.

#42 Posted by murisan (1119 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic: You can use 1-8. That's it.

#43 Posted by MikkaQ (10264 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic said:

@MikkaQ: The playing is not fun if I can't tweak feces off my screen.

Well the game doesn't have any distracting UI elements other than the typical prompt confusion that most games seem to have these days "Is it E to pick up the weapon or to loot the corpse? Oh both, okay... way to go." but that's easily ignored if you don't have OCD or something.

#44 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

@MikkaQ said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

@MikkaQ: The playing is not fun if I can't tweak feces off my screen.

Well the game doesn't have any distracting UI elements other than the typical prompt confusion that most games seem to have these days "Is it E to pick up the weapon or to loot the corpse? Oh both, okay... way to go." but that's easily ignored if you don't have OCD or something.

I just finished watching the Quick Look, and I disagree. The white detection indicator line is incredibly annoying (seriously there's no HUD settings screen?), the flashing corpses and plants break the immersion, and the minimap is stuffed with icons.

Also, does the game rely on me tagging my enemies and watching their movement through walls, or can I choose not to use the wallhack and use my eyes and ears to detect and eliminate the enemy? Like, if I skip the tagging, would I get fucked?

#45 Posted by jsnyder82 (725 posts) -

@Jimbo said:

@Blastroid said:

This screenshot alone sold the game for me:

Coolest shoes I ever saw.

Yeah, I think the shoe manufacturer missed a few steps somewhere in there before selling these to the public.

#46 Posted by murisan (1119 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic: This game doesn't sound like it's for you, man. Sorry.

#47 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

@murisan said:

@AhmadMetallic: This game doesn't sound like it's for you, man. Sorry.

Luckily I don't see things in black and white and divide my emotions into the two basic categories of love and hate. Nor do I decide what is and isn't for me based on a few little annoyances and a first impression. I like to believe I'm a human being with a somewhat sophisticated multi-layered brain who can enjoy and commend something while also scrutinizing it and being aware of its flaws. If you ever reach such a mentality, then I'll be interested in your opinion. Until then feel free to not comment on my posts.

I'm interested in this open world shooter that reminds me of my all time favorite FPS and I wanna know what it will allow me to do and what the experience will be like. What options it will give me and how I can get the most out of it.

#48 Posted by MikkaQ (10264 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic said:

@MikkaQ said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

@MikkaQ: The playing is not fun if I can't tweak feces off my screen.

Well the game doesn't have any distracting UI elements other than the typical prompt confusion that most games seem to have these days "Is it E to pick up the weapon or to loot the corpse? Oh both, okay... way to go." but that's easily ignored if you don't have OCD or something.

I just finished watching the Quick Look, and I disagree. The white detection indicator line is incredibly annoying (seriously there's no HUD settings screen?), the flashing corpses and plants break the immersion, and the minimap is stuffed with icons.

Also, does the game rely on me tagging my enemies and watching their movement through walls, or can I choose not to use the wallhack and use my eyes and ears to detect and eliminate the enemy? Like, if I skip the tagging, would I get fucked?

See that's strange because after playing for like three hours I never noticed flashing corpses or plants. I guess they are there thinking about it after the fact, but I'd hardly call that a distracting UI element, it's way too subtle. It also makes things easier to find in the end which is good, because anything that slows you down in that game just saps out all the fun. It's a great game when you're constantly on the move, but the moments of looking around bushes for the animal you shot totally kill it.

As for tagging, I don't use it too much. It happens automatically though if you stare at something too long with your sights, and using the camera tends to tag the fuck out of everything whether you want it or not, so it's probably pretty hard to avoid.

But if these are the kinds of details that bother you with games like these, then I definitely recommend you stay away from this one. It's not the kind of game you place under close scrutiny, like Just Cause 2, it's the kind of game where you should be having too much fun to get bogged down in that kinda thinking.

#49 Posted by SirPsychoSexy (1327 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic: Slow down there buddy, no need for the douche baggery.

#50 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

@MikkaQ said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

@MikkaQ said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

@MikkaQ: The playing is not fun if I can't tweak feces off my screen.

Well the game doesn't have any distracting UI elements other than the typical prompt confusion that most games seem to have these days "Is it E to pick up the weapon or to loot the corpse? Oh both, okay... way to go." but that's easily ignored if you don't have OCD or something.

I just finished watching the Quick Look, and I disagree. The white detection indicator line is incredibly annoying (seriously there's no HUD settings screen?), the flashing corpses and plants break the immersion, and the minimap is stuffed with icons.

Also, does the game rely on me tagging my enemies and watching their movement through walls, or can I choose not to use the wallhack and use my eyes and ears to detect and eliminate the enemy? Like, if I skip the tagging, would I get fucked?

See that's strange because after playing for like three hours I never noticed flashing corpses or plants. I guess they are there thinking about it after the fact, but I'd hardly call that a distracting UI element, it's way too subtle. It also makes things easier to find in the end which is good, because anything that slows you down in that game just saps out all the fun. It's a great game when you're constantly on the move, but the moments of looking around bushes for the animal you shot totally kill it.

As for tagging, I don't use it too much. It happens automatically though if you stare at something too long with your sights, and using the camera tends to tag the fuck out of everything whether you want it or not, so it's probably pretty hard to avoid.

But if these are the kinds of details that bother you with games like these, then I definitely recommend you stay away from this one. It's not the kind of game you place under close scrutiny, like Just Cause 2, it's the kind of game where you should be having too much fun to get bogged down in that kinda thinking.

Very interesting. So you're getting a Just Cause vibe out of this game rather than a Crysis 1/The Saboteur/etc.. vibe? Maybe I'm approaching this from the wrong angle then.

I mean, Far Cry 1 and 2 were in fact serious games so I guess the studio took a new turn with this third installment. So this is basically a console-friendly, acrade-ish STALKER game? Hmm that actually sounds like fun.

I guess I can let all the handholding and screen indicators slide if the flow of this game is all about crazy action. I was expecting an experience a little more serious and skill-dependent is all.

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