Anybody else lost?

#1 Posted by AnimalFather (800 posts) -

i keep switching maps and dont know where im going or what im doing just collecting the yellow things....anybody else have this problem?

#2 Posted by MoseSSesoM (235 posts) -

Alittle, I don't know how to get back to the "main area".

#3 Posted by MEATBALL (3188 posts) -

Yeah, pretty much, playing through the game feels like falling deeper down a rabbit hole. The continuity is very alien, which I assume is an intended feeling.

#4 Posted by James_Giant_Peach (751 posts) -

Not really, the map is ingeniously designed so now I feel like I can find my way anywhere, the warps also make nice little shortcuts. A lot of the fun in Fez is in the discovery and exploration though, so don't feel afraid to just open doors and see where they take you.

I'm not sure how you couldn't know what you're doing either, the game lays that out right at the start, find bits, build cubes, use cubes to open doors at the hub. You have an open world to explore, and plenty of cubes, bits, and secrets to find. When you find them all, the world is saved, or is it?

#5 Edited by C418 (29 posts) -

Yep, the world map might appear confusing at first. Eventually though you should figure out that it will be of great help to you.

Actually quite a few game reviewers pointed the world map out as "confusing and unintuitive" because they haven't played the game further and just stopped midway.

#6 Posted by HoM3R (206 posts) -

Im the kinda player that likes to be cleared all the way before I leave a area. After 5min I felt I was in a area that looked "end game" (like Mario thought us, the more evil the world looks the further you are) and thought I broken away from the intended path. After 10min I already had around 10 paths and they al kept going and giving me new paths without me clearing anything. Spent 10min back tracking and hoping to find a symmetry or logic in the world but its all really random.

So now im trying to be less anal about it and just go along for the ride. The fact that the map shows you completion of a area is great though for my OCD.

#7 Posted by BoG (5187 posts) -

@MEATBALL said:

Yeah, pretty much, playing through the game feels like falling deeper down a rabbit hole. The continuity is very alien, which I assume is an intended feeling.

I'm lost, but I'm only just beginning. I have to agree with MEATBALL here, though. It feels like I'm going down a rabbit hole. It's helped me to think of the game less like Mario (or, more accurately, Braid) and more like Metroid.

So far, I love the surrealist style of the game.

#8 Posted by Dredlockz (346 posts) -

@C418 said:

Yep, the world map might appear confusing at first. Eventually though you should figure out that it will be of great help to you.

Actually quite a few game reviewers pointed the world map out as "confusing and unintuitive" because they haven't played the game further and just stopped midway.

I've opened all the doors that require cubes in that hub world, and can find my way through the areas pretty well. But to be honest I still think the world map is definitely confusing and unintuitive. You can see which nodes can connect to other nodes, but you have to try all the doors in that specific level to see which is the one that takes you the node you want, it just gives a vague idea of how everything is connected.

It's far from ideal, but because of the nature of the game and the incredible complexity of the level design I have no idea how a better map could be made. So we all have to deal with it.

#9 Posted by ZimboDK (848 posts) -

No, I can find my way around pretty easily. Solving the puzzles is another matter though. There are so many where I have absolutely no clue what to do. 26 cubes so far.

#10 Posted by IndeedCodyBrown (392 posts) -

Yeah, I hope I'm supposed be lost.

#11 Edited by project343 (2817 posts) -

@AnimalFather: Initially, yes. It felt like a really poor dream: seeing several doors, entering one... seeing several more doors, entering one... rinse and repeat until mental breakdown. Then you realize how fantastic the back button is. Having that sense of place and progressing in the space works wonders.

@ZimboDK: WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS EVIL OWL HEAD SPINNING THING?! *throws keyboard*

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#12 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5816 posts) -

Not really.

But I do feel like there are some things I might be missing in certain areas

#13 Posted by gunstar (251 posts) -

I just 'beat' it. Just go wherever you haven't explored much yet. You'll find new places all the time. Find a larger cube that has a lot of smaller cubes you haven't gone to on the map.

#14 Posted by Telephis (4 posts) -

I also like completing areas before moving on, or at the very least in this case getting all the cubes and coming back for the secrets, but I kind of feel like if I miss one cube bit in an area I'll have to backtrack or warp->forward-track my way to get it because I entered a door and it took me to a whole new place that I want to explore instead. It's conflicting.

#15 Posted by yoshisaur (2701 posts) -

I think you're are intended to be lost. I mean, your a little guy who was just bestowed the power of 3D in a predominant 2D world from a Fez.

#16 Posted by weegieanawrench (1937 posts) -

No, I find the map to be well desinged, and after playing for some time you begin to memorize the areas pretty well. I usually cleared out an area before moving on the connecting cube, getting bits, shards, and keys, and now I'm going to each of the secret areas and racking my brain on how to crack these damn secrets. This goddamn bell is driving me nuts.

#17 Posted by joshthebear (2700 posts) -

I feel pretty lost but am enjoying the hell out of just exploring. The map could most definitely be be better.

#18 Posted by Weltal (2273 posts) -

Yeah, I don't feel like I have a great sense of direction in Fez. Really not digging it so far. I'll keep at it though, see if I enjoy it more with more time under my belt.

#19 Posted by JasonR86 (9657 posts) -

I'm just flying by the seat of my pants and hoping for the best. It's worked so far.

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#20 Posted by Redbullet685 (6034 posts) -

17 cubes in and I just now know what some of the treasure maps are for. Not sure where to go now, though.

#21 Posted by BoG (5187 posts) -

@Redbullet685 said:

17 cubes in and I just now know what some of the treasure maps are for. Not sure where to go now, though.

This has been my problems. The treasure maps are just another puzzle!

By the way, I'm fine with that.

#22 Edited by mnzy (2914 posts) -

The flying cube tells me to go to the hub all the time, but I just keep on flying through new levels. 
I hope it gets a little clearer later, though. I left cubes that I could see to enter a door and never came back there. 
That'll haunt my OCD in my dreams.

#23 Posted by Vitor (2815 posts) -

@C418 said:

Yep, the world map might appear confusing at first. Eventually though you should figure out that it will be of great help to you.

Actually quite a few game reviewers pointed the world map out as "confusing and unintuitive" because they haven't played the game further and just stopped midway.

I hated the map at first but once you get used to it, it's actually the best solution available for such a labyrinthine adventure.

I do wish that the they had 4 separate images for each area though that corresponded to the angle at which the entrances were instead of a fixed one for each. Would have made orientating yourself a little easier.

#24 Edited by efman (208 posts) -

So I think this is what happens when, all of a sudden, a game comes out that couldn't give a damn about holding the player's hands in as much as even remotely creating a somewhat guided path towards the first half of the game. I have as much fallen prey to being lost in an ever-expanding labyrinth of dimension as some of you folks report. I'm torn about what I think of it, because of the design choices it makes. I both find it mildly frustrating and enthralling in matters of the appreciation of what the core of getting absorbed into the unknown entails. I've grown so accustomed to the ways in which games operate that I'm grappling to come to terms with dealing with what games, like Fez, conceptually once were and what I most loved about them at the time. I've gathered that it comes down to an unrelenting level of patience -- bits of pieces of which I've most certainly done away with over the years. The triple-As of the world have altered my personal way of thinking toward games, and Fez has been a wake-up call for me. More games like Fez, please.

#25 Posted by JacDG (2119 posts) -

@HoM3R said:

Im the kinda player that likes to be cleared all the way before I leave a area. After 5min I felt I was in a area that looked "end game" (like Mario thought us, the more evil the world looks the further you are) and thought I broken away from the intended path. After 10min I already had around 10 paths and they al kept going and giving me new paths without me clearing anything. Spent 10min back tracking and hoping to find a symmetry or logic in the world but its all really random.

So now im trying to be less anal about it and just go along for the ride. The fact that the map shows you completion of a area is great though for my OCD.

I have the exact same "problem" which is way I think I enjoy linear games the most, because you tend to see everything no matter what. I'm only at 8 cubes, but I keep getting distracted by something else, so I never really complete a block entirely before moving on, just taking everything in, sounds, design, gameplay is great, but my gaming OCD spoils the fun a tiny bit, fantastic experience up until now though.

#26 Posted by mracoon (4967 posts) -

My only complaint about navigation is that it's hard to remember which door leads to which area. I know that doors tell where they go once you're on top of them but it's hassle to get to a door only to find realise it's not where you want to go. If they just put a symbol next to each door (not that the game needs any more glyphs) and the corresponding symbol on the map, it would be so much easier to go where you wanted. 

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#27 Posted by PrivateIronTFU (3874 posts) -

This game is an OCD sufferer's nightmare.

#28 Posted by Jaloper (41 posts) -

@mracoon: What I noticed that helps a ton with this problem is that you can see the area you are about to go to in the background. Just rotate the camera around till you see the place you want to go in the background and then you know the door will be on the side you are currently looking at.

#29 Edited by Brackynews (4060 posts) -

@PrivateIronTFU: I have suffered clinical OCD for 26 years. And while I'm willing to bet you don't know what the hell you're talking about, because people with OCD don't use it as a buzzword, I will say that some of the things in Fez would have bothered my younger self a great deal 20 years ago.

I'm not a compulsive completionist, and I don't feel that it's a completionist's nightmare either.

Loving it.

#30 Posted by itsVASH (172 posts) -

shits bananas

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