Monolith solution

#1 Posted by gregSTORM (62 posts) -

I was following a bunch of threads on this across multiple forums, and pieced together a list of combos to try to brute force, and came up with the solution after trying ~1300 of them

While standing on the square with the line in it (the one symbol, opposite the square used to raise the monolith), enter down down LT RT RT A up

#2 Posted by Barrabas (326 posts) -

Yep, that's it. I can confirm it.

#3 Posted by gregSTORM (62 posts) -

Now I just wish I knew WHY that's the answer

#4 Posted by Cincaid (2956 posts) -

@gregSTORM: So uh, what happens when solving it? Uninstalled the game since I got all the achievements, want to know if it's worth to download it again. :P

#5 Posted by gregSTORM (62 posts) -

You get another red cube, it goes behind the 64-cube door with the other cubes. As far as I can tell, nothing else happened.

#6 Edited by Gatehouse (608 posts) -

Totally legit. Again, would really like to know why.

#7 Posted by Sgtpierceface (619 posts) -

I think that Robo guy needs to know this. If he hasn't gone crazy yet of course.

#8 Posted by CosmicBatman (317 posts) -

Nice job man, this was bugging me.

#9 Posted by Demp (47 posts) -

Now the new mystery reveals itself. What do the three heart pieces do??

#10 Posted by Morbid_Coffee (955 posts) -

No new ending or any other changes, apparently. Just an extra 3.2% towards completion.

#11 Posted by BasketSnake (1193 posts) -

How do I reach the little temple in the clouds in the fifth world? I only found an atlas explaining its location and I can't find anything online.

#12 Posted by Jeff (3486 posts) -

Radical.

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#13 Posted by mracoon (4967 posts) -

Added it to the guide, thanks.

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#14 Posted by dudebro (16 posts) -

The solution couldn't of been actually brute forcing it right? Is there some reason or logic everyone is missing behind it that we can at least work backwards towards?

#15 Posted by MonkfishEsq (252 posts) -

It was brute forced:

"Using the clues treyher threw out and others had pieced together (first two are the same, 3rd isn't A, multiple sets of 2, and net 90 degree rotation), I wrote a program to generate the possible combinations. It came up with 3760 combos. Incredibly, one of them worked!"

The best thing is that getting all 3 parts of the heart cube doesn't even do anything..

#16 Posted by MegaMetaTurtle (414 posts) -
@gregSTORM

Now I just wish I knew WHY that's the answer

Agreed. Will be interesting to see what Mr Fish says.
#17 Posted by Sgtpierceface (619 posts) -

@MegaMetaTurtle: I can't help but think that he won't say anything about it.

#18 Posted by Panpipe (473 posts) -

@gregSTORM said:

I was following a bunch of threads on this across multiple forums, and pieced together a list of combos to try to brute force, and came up with the solution after trying ~1300 of them

While standing on the square with the line in it (the one symbol, opposite the square used to raise the monolith), enter down down LT RT RT A up

Jeez, congrats. I spent about 10 minutes helping on one of the brute force spreadsheets, but 1300 codes... you deserve it.

Did you post here first? If so, points to Giant Bomb.

#19 Posted by gregSTORM (62 posts) -

@Panpipe said:

Did you post here first? If so, points to Giant Bomb.

Yep! I pretty much have this site up all the time, so it was right there when I got the right one.

#20 Posted by lanerobertlane (139 posts) -

Thank you so much for sharing this code. Been thinking none stop about it since Sunday. Now we're free from Fez our free time should be devoted to building this guy a monument or giving him a OBE for services to humanity or something....

#21 Posted by Bravestar (379 posts) -

well, the visitors came down, left a king(rex) and then their cube(or dice=aleae) blew up. obviously.

#22 Posted by joshrholloway (72 posts) -

Great job! I had generated a list of inputs based on the same parameters you did, but I wasn't going to sit there and try every one of them.

#23 Posted by Panpipe (473 posts) -

Now we can work backwards.

The pattern is 1 1 2 3 3 4 5

Apparently there are no words that fit that pattern. So other solutions could be;

- Pattern is somewhere in the game.

- The artifacts could lead to this solution somehow.

- Solution comes with the soundtrack / There is no solution in game.

#24 Posted by SomethingClever (419 posts) -

My question now is, even though I've done everything, every room is gold, I have all secrets (as far as I know), why am I at 209.4% and others who have supposedly completed everything are at 215 something or other percent?

Did they get the glitch cube or did I/we miss something else?

#25 Posted by yoshimitz707 (2451 posts) -

@Phunk_King said:

My question now is, even though I've done everything, every room is gold, I have all secrets (as far as I know), why am I at 209.4% and others who have supposedly completed everything are at 215 something or other percent?

Did they get the glitch cube or did I/we miss something else?

Yeah, those are the glitch cubes.

#26 Posted by Green_Incarnate (1788 posts) -

YAY WE WIN.

#27 Posted by WMWA (1160 posts) -

Awesome.

#28 Posted by web966 (87 posts) -

@Sgtpierceface said:

@MegaMetaTurtle: I can't help but think that he won't say anything about it.

I hope he never says anything and no one ever figures it out. That would be awesome.

#29 Posted by 1p (760 posts) -

Pretty anticlimactic. I was hoping for one last crazy revelation.

#30 Posted by AndrewB (7577 posts) -
Ah, the old Lotus strategy.
#31 Posted by BBAlpert (1439 posts) -

@1p said:

Pretty anticlimactic. I was hoping for one last crazy revelation.

Unless there's something else that needs to be done with the piece you get. There may very well not be, but you never know.

#32 Posted by Deathpooky (1386 posts) -

The three looked like a heart when I opened the final door. I guess that's it? Unless there's more red cubes that lead to more secrets.

Either way, you have to be impressed with a game that managed to keep puzzles up for that long today, especially given that we haven't figured out why.

#33 Edited by mikeblais (7 posts) -

My friend and I are avoiding the solution and trying to find some in-game explanation for what's going on

so far two things come to mind

one is that once you're in a new game+, you can tap up three times and then hold jump to make Gomez fly

the second is that between the black monolith, stargates, and all the cave paintings in rooms around the map (mostly observatory) featuring aliens helping the natives mature this game has too many parallels to 2001: A Space Odyssey and the sequel books.

#34 Posted by Bollard (5429 posts) -

Thanks a lot man, awesome work. Now to figure out why!

#35 Posted by Bollard (5429 posts) -

@Phunk_King said:

My question now is, even though I've done everything, every room is gold, I have all secrets (as far as I know), why am I at 209.4% and others who have supposedly completed everything are at 215 something or other percent?

Did they get the glitch cube or did I/we miss something else?

At least you're at 200%. My game is busted and still at 200% even though I have everything now. This extra broken cube didn't even move my completion at all :(

#36 Edited by mikeblais (7 posts) -

Some more interesting stuff that hasn't been posted in this thread but might have been elsewhere

I translated the Tome artifact and it comes out as this

FROM OUT OF NOWHERE
IMPOSSIBLE VISITORS
OUR BENEFACTORS

WATCHING OVER US
IN THE HIDDEN FOLDS OF SPACE
IN FRONT OF BEHIND

GIVE THE GOLDEN GIFT
A DEEP REVELATION
OUR EYES WIDE OPEN

SHAPES TO TESSELLATE
WITH SACRED GEOMETRY
AN EMPIRE TO BUILD

A NEW PERSPECTIVE
THINGS UNSEENS BUT ALWAYS THERE
A NEW DIRECTION

THE HEXAHEDRON
THE SIXTY FOUR BIT NAME OF GOD
THE POINT OF ORIGIN

A PATTERN A CODE
A DEEP UNDERSTANDING
A GATE TO THE STARS

ALL OF TIME AND SPACE
AND THE SPACE OUTSIDE OF SPACE
WHERE DOES IT END

Two very interesting things to note are that the 7th and 8th Haikus correspond directly to the solutions for the Security Question and the Observatory Telescope, respectively

#37 Posted by kerse (2111 posts) -

I'm starting to think the actual solution to the monolith was brute force, and this is exactly what Phil wanted us to do. Or its something so obscure and crazy when we find it'll just be kinda like well screw you too Phil...

#38 Posted by Food (383 posts) -

weird.. this is the first time I've heard that the monolith is the big puzzle that everyone was trying solve. my room mate and I have been trying to figure out fez without using the internet. last night, i watched my room mate get the red cube from the monolith room about 10 minutes after unlocking the monolith. he said it had something to do with rotating or reversing the tetris code on the visible portion of the map... but i'm sure if it was that simple someone would have figured it out by now! i wonder if he made a mistake and input the right code by chance.

#39 Posted by Lokno (386 posts) -

A collective shrug

A code, but no solution

Fuck you too, Phil Fish

#40 Posted by Panpipe (473 posts) -

@Food: My guess is he cheated.

It's kind of sad that there's not much of an effort to work out these final puzzles. Before it was brute forced there was a great community. I'm not blaming the brute force (I joined in); that was the only reasonable solution, and currently still is.

There was initial excitement when the soundtrack came out, and all those hidden pictures surfaced. Sadly, there was no real bait for a community to chase after. The tome, the monolith and the soundtrack are just so vague that hardly anyone seems to have any interest any more. It hasn't soured the experience, but it does make you wonder if Phil Fish did include this stuff as a "fuck you".

#41 Edited by Eaxis (912 posts) -

Do I need to have 64 cubes to activate the monolith?

#42 Posted by cthomer5000 (765 posts) -

@Eaxis said:

Do I need to have 64 cubes to activate the monolith?

No. I did it with 62.

#43 Posted by oraknabo (1457 posts) -

@mikeblais said:

Two very interesting things to note are that the 7th and 8th Haikus correspond directly to the solutions for the Security Question and the Observatory Telescope, respectively

Something very close to the last one is also on the side of the clock.

#44 Posted by mrcraggle (1903 posts) -

Did anyone figure out why this was the code? From what I've read, there's no way to find it in game and it's possibly hidden within the soundtrack but it was obviously brute forced before then.

#45 Edited by Lokno (386 posts) -

@mrcraggle: My theory is that it isn't in the game. The map is burnt, implying the code was lost. Its fitting, if you think about it; the story is all about the gift of extraterritorial knowledge. So you for this last puzzle you need outside help to advance.

#46 Posted by mrcraggle (1903 posts) -

@Lokno: Or is it the last puzzle? ;)

#47 Edited by Anencephalic (1 posts) -

@panpipe said:

Now we can work backwards.

The pattern is 1 1 2 3 3 4 5

Apparently there are no words that fit that pattern. So other solutions could be;

- Pattern is somewhere in the game.

- The artifacts could lead to this solution somehow.

- Solution comes with the soundtrack / There is no solution in game.

If that is the case then the pattern is the Hofstadter Q sequence found here. The first meta Fibonacci sequence in literature apparently.

Hofstadter Q sequence wikipedia

Makes sense for me I guess for the p looks like a q when flipped.

However there is another theory being that it has to be with the release date:

Reddit Theory

Anyway if the creator of the game ever reads this please consider this my personal thanks. Was at medical school and a guy really recommend it a real cerebral and most importantly enjoyable experience. Well I guess the vast silent majority of people who vote with their wallets (me included of course) would also be quite the resounding endorsement.

Kind Regards,

Anencephalic

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