Final Fantasy VIII sucks and you suck for liking it?

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#1 Posted by majormoe (30 posts) -

I don't like Final Fantasy VIII at all. It's one of my least favorite, if not, least favorite Final Fantasy game. I was happy to see a internet reviewer called SpoonyOne to criticize and bash the game, by pointing out it's obvious flaws in the gameplay and story. I thought they were pretty funny series of reviews, even if the humor was forced and often juvenile. However, in one of the later parts of his review of FFVIII, he says: "Final Fantasy VIII sucks and you suck for liking it!" I think he went too far with that line. Even thought I don't like the game, I wouldn't attack others for liking it. It just makes you look as bad as the Final Fantasy fanboys for doing so. 
  
Now I know what a lot of you are going to say: "But it's just a joke. No it is not a joke, but a rather petty insult. It's not funny in any way at all. However, I'm surprised he manage to get a lot of support, and many of his mindless followers agree with that statement. Which I find ironic, considering he constantly lampoons Final Fantasy fanboys. 
 
Does anyone else think that was rather pathetic of him to say?

#2 Posted by ComradeKritstov (693 posts) -

Man and I just bought Final Fantasy VIII too. =( 
 
But on subject it does kinda seem like he is trying to get cheap easy laughs. Yea it's not funny but I don't think it would bother me at all.

#3 Posted by MysteriousBob (6272 posts) -

You made a typo. 
7 in Roman Numerals is VII. The game you've mentioned was actually one of the few decent games in the series.
 
Spoony is a funny guy even if he has the worst taste in games in the universe.

#4 Posted by Video_Game_King (35835 posts) -

Yes, you do :P. At least you suck if you liked the romance. It's like Twilight with a shred of dignity and no vampires.

#5 Posted by Xtrememuffinman (958 posts) -

FFVIII is actually my favorite game... next to FFX of course.

#6 Posted by Doctorchimp (4067 posts) -
@MysteriousBob said:
" You made a typo. 7 in Roman Numerals is VII. The game you've mentioned was actually one of the few decent games in the series. Spoony is a funny guy even if he has the worst taste in games in the universe. "
You sir can go draw magic and play triple triad all by yourself...
#7 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4608 posts) -

I don't care what some guy thinks of my gaming tastes, or me. And I've never even heard of this guy. He attaches his reviews to an internet username.
 
In short, I don't give a fuck what he thinks, and neither should you.
 
And I hated FFVIII.

#8 Posted by X19 (2304 posts) -

So a troll with a stupid name said something to try and annoy FF fans, how original -_-

#9 Posted by majormoe (30 posts) -
@MysteriousBob said:
" You made a typo. 7 in Roman Numerals is VII. The game you've mentioned was actually one of the few decent games in the series. Spoony is a funny guy even if he has the worst taste in games in the universe. "
I was reffering to Final Fantasy VIII. Not the seventh game, I like that one and so does Spoony. 
#10 Edited by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) -

You apparently don't get Spoony. 
 
Spoony isn't someone who believes that people who like different franchises or genres are a family that occassionally has differences but can come together. 
 
He's someone who believes that the vast majority of things that are popular are stupid and terrible, and that people who are fans of these series allow them to continue to be shitty and ruin everything. 
 
I completely agree with him. Even if you don't, it's not a simple reverse fanboy hating on the series (he loves a few of the final fantasies), it's his discontent for people that are continuing the existence of what he perceives to be shit. 
 
Edit: Oh, also he loves the tears of fanboys, and is totally trying to get them going.

#11 Edited by CocoRodriguez--defunct (74 posts) -

Spoony has a huge inflated ego. His opinion is really the last thing anybody should care about.
 
Also FF8 is pretty funny once you realize that Squall has Aspergers.

#12 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

FF13 was a great game imo.

#13 Edited by MysteriousBob (6272 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:

" Yes, you do :P. At least you suck if you liked the romance. It's like Twilight with a shred of dignity and no vampires. "

Now liking the homoerotic tension between Cloud and that goth fag- thats great game storytelling. 
 
Final Fantasy has never had deep storylines. Psuedo-deep, but not actual good story telling. But at least 8 had some decent characters unlike 7s cast of loathsome anime stereotypes.
#14 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) -
@X19 said:
" So a troll with a stupid name said something to try and annoy FF fans, how original -_- "
not really, no.
#15 Posted by Lukeweizer (2586 posts) -

I think you finding pleasure about how some random kid raving about how he hates some game says a lot about you. It also says I shouldn't even bother with this thread.

#16 Posted by Alex_Murphy (1184 posts) -

Yea part 8 blew pretty hard. I got bored and stopped playing on disc 2 when I had to search a town to find a dog. I guess they learned their lesson because part 9 had a very fantasy like feel to the world and characters.

#17 Posted by animateria (3252 posts) -

Whatever, you suck for feeling bad about a 'you suck' statement just for a suck ass review that's obviously sucking up to it's audience, who also suck.
 
Suck it!
 
(Besides it's all for laughs. Ever watch Zero Punctuation? Yahtzee always offends his audience to the utmost degree.)

#18 Posted by Video_Game_King (35835 posts) -
@MysteriousBob said:
" @Video_Game_King said:

" Yes, you do :P. At least you suck if you liked the romance. It's like Twilight with a shred of dignity and no vampires. "

Now liking the homoerotic tension between Cloud and that goth fag- thats great game storytelling.  Final Fantasy has never had deep storylines. Psuedo-deep, but not actual good story telling. But at least 8 had some decent characters unlike 7s cast of loathsome anime stereotypes. "
A.) Way to assume a lot about me. Dick.
B.) Yes, I like FF7, but that's not really relevant.
C.) Wait, what was that? No deep storytelling? Then what the fuck is this? Or this? Apparently not symbols nor themes, right?
#19 Posted by Brodehouse (9521 posts) -
@MysteriousBob said:
" @Video_Game_King said:

" Yes, you do :P. At least you suck if you liked the romance. It's like Twilight with a shred of dignity and no vampires. "

Now liking the homoerotic tension between Cloud and that goth fag- thats great game storytelling.  Final Fantasy has never had deep storylines. Psuedo-deep, but not actual good story telling. But at least 8 had some decent characters unlike 7s cast of loathsome anime stereotypes. "
It's ironic that Twilight gets brought up, because Final Fantasy is very close to teen fiction.  It's about things that are important, and can have meaning, but it panders and doesn't aim to be a mature work.  As a young man, I probably wouldn't have been interested in Heavy Rain, and no teenagers are playing Gears because Marcus interests them as a character.  But the spikey-haired teens of Final Fantasy give them a chance to develop the interests that blossom into what we consider more mature work in the same field.
 
As terrible as Twilight is, at least it gets teens reading.  Maybe only a fraction of them keep it up into their 20s and 30s, but it's more than there would have been before.
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#20 Posted by gabha (354 posts) -

You hurt my feelings :(.

#21 Edited by vidiot (2737 posts) -

I watched the first few episodes and then stopped. I hated it.
 
It's not ragging on fanboys, it's a complete lack of any substance. For me, I found a good majority of his complaints against both games, whether he knew it or not, having to deal with the limitations of presenting the story during the times both games were made. I never saw a compare or contrast of games during that period, no perspective. I never got really far into either, but I never saw any criticism where it mattered for the actual game, specifically certain issues with the actual game character development mechanics (Materia / Junction) Other complaints seemed arbitrary and strange. Complaining that Google image searches of Final Fantasy VII brought in more pornography than Final Fantasy VI, or something to that effect. How the hell is that relevant to anything? 
 
I don't like him. I don't like Yahtzee either, but at least I get the impression he knows what he's talking about. 
I also heard Spoony tried to copy the GB Endurance run of playing through Deadly Premonition. Not cool.

#22 Posted by Jazz (2090 posts) -

but...but giant dragon spaceship thing. 
How can that not be cool?

#23 Posted by RsistncE (4496 posts) -

Final Fantasy VIII sucks and you suck for liking it!    

#24 Posted by zyn (2591 posts) -

FFVIII was great (FFX being the best).

#25 Posted by gamefreak9 (2336 posts) -

FF7 was brilliantly written, and you should have a more open minded approach. 7 wasn't even in my top 3 favs but i the story was still pretty great, with drama and such(although character development was not as present as in the ones following it, aka 8-10)

#26 Posted by MagicalImp (5 posts) -
@RsistncE said:
" Final Fantasy VIII sucks and you suck for liking it!     "
RsistencE always makes the smartest post in this forum.  
 
It is a fact that Final Fantasy VIII sucks and you suck for liking it. Now this gives me an idea for a thread I'm about to make.
#27 Posted by babblinmule (1262 posts) -
@vidiot:  I agree with pretty much everything you said except the last bit. Yahtzee seems to be aware that he's being an asshole and so has centered his reviews around that fact, whilst Spoony has always reminded me of some 14 year old goth kid who hates anything thats popular because he thinks it makes him 'edgy and different'. 
#28 Posted by MagicalImp (5 posts) -
@vidiot said:
" I watched the first few episodes and then stopped. I hated it.
 
It's not ragging on fanboys, it's a complete lack of any substance. For me, I found a good majority of his complaints against both games, whether he knew it or not, having to deal with the limitations of presenting the story during the times both games were made. I never saw a compare or contrast of games during that period, no perspective. I never got really far into either, but I never saw any criticism where it mattered for the actual game, specifically certain issues with the actual game character development mechanics (Materia / Junction) Other complaints seemed arbitrary and strange. Complaining that Google image searches of Final Fantasy VII brought in more pornography than Final Fantasy VI, or something to that effect. How the hell is that relevant to anything?   I don't like him. I don't like Yahtzee either, but at least I get the impression he knows what he's talking about.  I also heard Spoony tried to copy the GB Endurance run of playing through Deadly Premonition. Not cool. "
  
#29 Posted by RsistncE (4496 posts) -
@MagicalImp said:
" @RsistncE said:
" Final Fantasy VIII sucks and you suck for liking it!     "
RsistencE always makes the smartest post in this forum.   It is a fact that Final Fantasy VIII sucks and you suck for liking it. Now this gives me an idea for a thread I'm about to make. "
Always.
#30 Posted by Ghostiet (5209 posts) -
@CL60 said:
" FF13 was a great game imo. "

Agreed. The worst part? We can get our asses whipped for this opinion by both die hard fans and hardest opponents of the series.

The Internet never made much sense.

#31 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

All aboard, the Shitstorm Train.

#32 Posted by X19 (2304 posts) -
@Pinworm45 said:
" @X19 said:
" So a troll with a stupid name said something to try and annoy FF fans, how original -_- "
not really, no. "
link   
 
eh yes actually, yes.  
#33 Posted by President_Barackbar (3416 posts) -

Oh please, its all in the name of entertainment. Spoony is pretty notorious for including overblown angry rants and jokes into his stuff, its his comedy style. He admits in the commentary on the FFVIII review that he's just having fun and the people who overreact need to get a sense of humor, and I agree. Fanboys of Japanese games and game developers are WAY too devoted, most of them would die for their favorite game series, its a little pathetic.

#34 Posted by Cegoraph (148 posts) -

If some smug comment by a  snarky jackass (I admit that he's quite funny at sometimes) really emotional effect you, then you need help. No offence, but you really need to see a shrink.

#35 Posted by Ignor (2372 posts) -

Play the game for what it is. A fucking fantasy.

#36 Posted by prestonhedges (1965 posts) -

aren't Final Fantasy fans used to this shit yet
 
besides, it's way, way old

#37 Posted by Sir_Loin_of_Beef (55 posts) -

"Final Fantasy VIII sucks and you suck for liking it"
 
Before I start I would just like to make it clear that I love FF8 (I own the game, I own a few of the action figures lol, I wear Squall's necklace every now and then, I even own all 110 Triple Triad cards which took me two years to collect to it's completion... the real cards, not in-game cards)

Now then... I've been following Spoony (as a huge fan of his rants) ever since my friend sent me a link to his series of FF8 videos a few years back. I never once thought that the game sucked or had a problem (outside of the obvious) 
 
But he just made the game sound so hilariously funny that I couldn't ignore him or the faults in the game. Infact I started to worship the ground he walked on, every 'nit-pick' he came up with was a legitimate grievance and I loved him for it, it all made perfect sence to me and I still stand by Spoony for just being soo damn funny with his rants. He did such a great job of ripping FF8 about ten new assholes that I honestly couldn't find anything wrong with his hate towards the game.
 
BUT!

If Spoony just stepped on camera for a few seconds and talked random trash... then there would be course for me (and alot of other real FF8 fans) to fire back at him with pure hate.
 
But anyway, lets just hope he doesn't start talking shite about something which he clearly knows nothing about, like pro wrestling... oh wait.....
..... 
.. 
 
 
 
PS: The SWAT 4 review is awesome too, check it out.
 
Mike.

#38 Posted by RaceKickfist (218 posts) -

I loved final fantasy 8. and I don't suck. but that's just my opinion.

#39 Posted by Levio (1782 posts) -

Wow, I'm not the only one who thought FFX was the best?  Sweet.

#40 Posted by Sir_Loin_of_Beef (55 posts) -

 I'd post something here... but I would probably get shat-on by every person on this forum for thinking FF10 was the biggest pile of horse apples in the FF series for it's time, but now we have such bigger pieces of SHIT! like FFX-2, FF12 and FF13 (im holding my judgment of FF14 until i've played it for a few months, i'm almost one month in now and it's a big game)

#41 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) -
@X19 said:
" @Pinworm45 said:
" @X19 said:
" So a troll with a stupid name said something to try and annoy FF fans, how original -_- "
not really, no. "
link    eh yes actually, yes.   "
No, not really actually.
#42 Posted by FreakAche (2948 posts) -

I keep wanting to get into Final Fantasy, but just seeing the dumb bickering between fans that threads like this devolve into is making me second guess myself.

#43 Posted by Jeust (10451 posts) -

I never liked Spoony.  

#44 Posted by chilibean_3 (1611 posts) -

It's a joke.  A pretty funny one to me.  Try not taking things too seriously.  Also, I enjoyed FF8.

#45 Posted by JessicaBoo (404 posts) -

one thing. RESPECT PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY LIKE. If you don't like a game. Good give your opinion. but never say that people suck for liking it.  

#46 Posted by Catolf (2653 posts) -

I've never played FF8 but I like me some romance in my games.. << 

#47 Edited by FancySoapsMan (5797 posts) -

Final Fantasy VIII is an OK game. 
 
Honestly though, Final Fantasy has never been my cup of tea. As far as JRPG's go, there are many better choices out there.

#48 Posted by Catolf (2653 posts) -
@FancySoapsMan said:
" Final Fantasy is an OK game.   Honestly though, Final Fantasy has never been my cup of tea. As far as JRPG's go, there are many better choices out there. "
I can agree with this.
#49 Posted by vidiot (2737 posts) -
@babblinmule said:
" @vidiot:  I agree with pretty much everything you said except the last bit. Yahtzee seems to be aware that he's being an asshole and so has centered his reviews around that fact, whilst Spoony has always reminded me of some 14 year old goth kid who hates anything thats popular because he thinks it makes him 'edgy and different'.  "
I just don't see an application of substance from Spoony. That's all. Yahtzee might revel in his professional-troll persona, but at least he brings up points regarding mechanics versus just presentation. At least some times :P
 
#50 Posted by Deusoma (3000 posts) -
@Pinworm45 said:
"He's someone who believes that the vast majority of things that are popular are stupid and terrible..."
Yeah, right there is where you lost me. I like FFVIII but am not bothered by people who don't like it. But even with things I do not like, such as, oh I don't know, how about Kingdom Hearts off the top of my head, even though I think the game itself is stupid, I don't hold any particular malice against the people who play the games.
 
Basically I'm totally with the OP on this one. This Spoony guy really needs to chill.

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