2 things REALLY bothering me

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#1 Posted by bushpusherr (846 posts) -

1. What the FUCK does kupo mean and why does this fucking thing have to say it twice every sentence (even in the god damned data log files)?

2. This has to be the absolute worst boss music of all time. I can only assume that the same focus testing that told them Western gamers loved quick time events was the same bullshit testing that told them screamo music is all the rage in the states. WHAT THE FUCK

Otherwise I'm enjoying it. Is this seriously irritating anyone else?

#2 Posted by Omega (836 posts) -

Mog says: Why u mad, kupo?
#3 Posted by zyn (2591 posts) -
#4 Posted by WilltheMagicAsian (1547 posts) -

@bushpusherr: That's what Moogles have done since they've made their appearance in Final Fantasy (well, besides FF3.)

#5 Posted by IBurningStar (2190 posts) -

A Moogle ain't a Moogle unless it is sayin' Kupo!

#6 Posted by M_Shini (551 posts) -

They always said Kupo its like they're equivalent of a cat meowing or a dog woofing.

#7 Posted by White (1410 posts) -

Kupo you, you kupo.

#8 Posted by Sayishere (1840 posts) -

I havent played this game yet, but the voice acting for the moogle is really creepy.

#9 Posted by JasonR86 (9723 posts) -

Moogles are, have been, and always will be one of the worst things about the Final Fantasy universe.

#10 Posted by Dagbiker (6978 posts) -

Why would they make a game western gamers love, its a fucken jrpg.

#11 Posted by MideonNViscera (2252 posts) -

You're only noticing how shitty Moogles are now that they have voice acting. Kinda like the rest of Final Fantasy.

#12 Posted by FritzDude (2273 posts) -

Kupo is a food eaten by moogles, and the term "Kupo!" is derived from it. They first used the word "nya", as in "meow", and was changed to "kupo" later. It's their way of speaking, but some moogles can speak like us.

#13 Posted by MentalDisruption (1670 posts) -

@MideonNViscera said:

You're only noticing how shitty Moogles are now that they have voice acting. Kinda like the rest of Final Fantasy.

It's amazing how true this is. I used to be alright with moogles, but that moogle's voice acting makes it odd as hell.

#14 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

1. Moogles are awesome, kupo.

2. I'm liking the music so far, kupo.

#15 Posted by Ravenlight (8011 posts) -

@bushpusherr said:

1. What the FUCK does kupo mean and why does this fucking thing have to say it twice every sentence (even in the god damned data log files)?

2. This has to be the absolute worst boss music of all time. I can only assume that the same focus testing that told them Western gamers loved quick time events was the same bullshit testing that told them screamo music is all the rage in the states. WHAT THE FUCK

Otherwise I'm enjoying it. Is this seriously irritating anyone else?

What were you expecting form 13-2? From your comments, it seems like you've never played a Final Fantasy game before.

#16 Posted by rawrsair (821 posts) -

It's weird that Moogles have voices now

#17 Posted by punkxblaze (2990 posts) -

SO YOU THINK YOU CAN RIIIIDE THIS CHOCOBO

#18 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -

Did everyone just start playing Final Fantasy games in the last 5 years.

#19 Edited by Chop (1998 posts) -

I liked the moogle in FF9. The one that would threaten to murder you <3

Also, the moogles in 12 were incredibly cute, so they get a pass. The rest of them can fuck right off though.

#20 Posted by WMWA (1162 posts) -

I think they had it perfect in FFIX. Kupo's had a sound effect that sort of sounded like "Kupo", but it wasn't an obnoxious voice. Digging the game a lot so far regardless

#21 Posted by Demoskinos (15131 posts) -

1. Moogles have always said this.

2. I actually like the music.

#22 Posted by Bocam (3819 posts) -

クポですの。

#23 Posted by Ghost_Cat (1471 posts) -

I expected moogles to sound like jawas.

#24 Posted by phantomsnake (39 posts) -

@bushpusherr said:

2. This has to be the absolute worst boss music of all time. I can only assume that the same focus testing that told them Western gamers loved quick time events was the same bullshit testing that told them screamo music is all the rage in the states. WHAT THE FUCK

You should hear the new chocobo music.

#25 Posted by TheVideoHustler (404 posts) -

@punkxblaze: Ride that Chocobo lady

#26 Posted by BrockNRolla (1694 posts) -

@LordXavierBritish said:

Did everyone just start playing Final Fantasy games in the last 5 years.

FF means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Your age has a lot to do with it. FF to me is FF7 since I played it during my formative gaming years. FFs before that mean very little to me. People introduced to the series after that have an even more drastically different viewpoint.

I have to assume anyone introduced to the series at FF13 must think FF is one of the worst series ever conceived.

#27 Posted by Evilsbane (4735 posts) -

@BrockNRolla said:

I have to assume anyone introduced to the series at FF13 must think FF is one of the worst series ever conceived.

I was introduced way before that and I still think it is one of the worst series ever conceived.

#28 Posted by Demoskinos (15131 posts) -

@phantomsnake said:

@bushpusherr said:

2. This has to be the absolute worst boss music of all time. I can only assume that the same focus testing that told them Western gamers loved quick time events was the same bullshit testing that told them screamo music is all the rage in the states. WHAT THE FUCK

You should hear the new chocobo music.

That is NOT the chocobo music you hear while riding the chocobo in game. Its simply a extra song on the soundtrack.

#29 Posted by BrockNRolla (1694 posts) -

@Evilsbane said:

@BrockNRolla said:

I have to assume anyone introduced to the series at FF13 must think FF is one of the worst series ever conceived.

I was introduced way before that and I still think it is one of the worst series ever conceived.

I have a lot of fond memories of 7 and 8, but it has been a long time since those games came out. I can't say you're wrong.

#30 Posted by phantomsnake (39 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@phantomsnake said:

@bushpusherr said:

2. This has to be the absolute worst boss music of all time. I can only assume that the same focus testing that told them Western gamers loved quick time events was the same bullshit testing that told them screamo music is all the rage in the states. WHAT THE FUCK

You should hear the new chocobo music.

That is NOT the chocobo music you hear while riding the chocobo in game. Its simply a extra song on the soundtrack.

Oh thank god. I could not imagine how that music could possibly fit into the game.

#31 Posted by MikkaQ (10344 posts) -

You'd think they'd have bred instinctual animal noises out of the moogles by now, but hey whatever.

#32 Edited by CaLe (4050 posts) -

They say kupo because it's translated from the Japanese and in Japanese they are used to little cutesy characters having this kind of speech characteristic. If it's a cat type of character it would be nya instead of kupo for example. Kupo itself is a nonsense word, but just sounds cutesy. 
 
Another thing is that before there was voice acting in games, if a Japanese person read this character's speech they would guess from the kupo thing that they most likely speak with a high pitched voice. So, had Ryan known this, he would never have thought that the puko would have a bronxian accent.

#33 Posted by Vorbis (2750 posts) -

It's not unique to moogles. Japanese Persona 4 Teddie did the same thing.

#34 Edited by bushpusherr (846 posts) -

@Dagbiker: I was just feeding off of what the guys on the Bombcast were talking about when they said the inclusion of quick time events was put in because western gamers said thats what they wanted. They then rightly asked "who the fuck did they talk to that said they wanted that?" I assumed it was the same people that said they wanted terrible screamo music for the boss fights.

@Ravenlight: I've only played 10 and 13, and I enjoyed both of them fine (no moogles and the music was fine if not great). Other than those two things I'm enjoying this game just fine

And when I mention the boss music I'm talking specifically about the Gogmagog fight and the Giant Flan fight.

#35 Posted by Beforet (2932 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@phantomsnake said:

@bushpusherr said:

2. This has to be the absolute worst boss music of all time. I can only assume that the same focus testing that told them Western gamers loved quick time events was the same bullshit testing that told them screamo music is all the rage in the states. WHAT THE FUCK

You should hear the new chocobo music.

That is NOT the chocobo music you hear while riding the chocobo in game. Its simply a extra song on the soundtrack.

Really? Well fuck this game!

#36 Edited by R_Coles (90 posts) -

Seems like the boss battle music is reaaally similar to the final boss in FF10 (Jecht).

#37 Edited by SpaceRunaway (873 posts) -

A little off topic, but when Ryan talked about always picturing the Moogles with a heavy Bronx accent, I must admit that I've always done the same.

#38 Posted by thellama042 (111 posts) -

@phantomsnake said:

@bushpusherr said:

2. This has to be the absolute worst boss music of all time. I can only assume that the same focus testing that told them Western gamers loved quick time events was the same bullshit testing that told them screamo music is all the rage in the states. WHAT THE FUCK

You should hear the new chocobo music.

While I don't like the song itself, I can fully appreciate the lyrics. It sounds like a heavy metal fan song.

#39 Posted by Flappy (2352 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

1. Moogles are awesome, kupo.

2. I'm liking the music so far, kupo.

This sums it up quite nicely. I'm actually surprised at how much more I'm enjoying this game over it's predecessor. I don't know what happened, but once I got the ability to capture monsters, it's like I was a Pokemon-lovin' kid again.

#40 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -

Does anyone have a link to the boss music?  I'm curious.

#41 Posted by phantomsnake (39 posts) -

@EvilTwin said:

Does anyone have a link to the boss music? I'm curious.

Here you go. The artist is Shootie HG.

#42 Edited by ZenaxPure (2569 posts) -
@Beforet said:

@Demoskinos said:

@phantomsnake said:

@bushpusherr said:

2. This has to be the absolute worst boss music of all time. I can only assume that the same focus testing that told them Western gamers loved quick time events was the same bullshit testing that told them screamo music is all the rage in the states. WHAT THE FUCK

You should hear the new chocobo music.

That is NOT the chocobo music you hear while riding the chocobo in game. Its simply a extra song on the soundtrack.

Really? Well fuck this game!

Nope, everyone is wrong here! 
 
This song does in fact play, but only when riding red chocobos. It's fitting because Red Chocobos are mother fucking assholes who continue to eat your greens at a steady pace even while riding them unlike yellow chocobos. They also try to run away from you, because they're assholes. Thus far red chocobos only appear in time lines that are super messed up.
  
There is also one more song I believe that gets used on a third color of chocobo, but I've not ran into it yet. Also Crazy Chocobo is awesome but people are too butthurt to take a joke. 
 
For the original topic as others have said: 
1. Moogles have ALWAYS SAID KUPO, kupo! 
2. I'm some where on the middle with the music, some of the songs are somewhat boring but there have been some absolutely amazing songs to play as well.
#43 Posted by benspyda (2050 posts) -

I used to hate Moogles like you, but then I.....

No stop don't do it!!!

#44 Posted by kerse (2118 posts) -

The boss music is fucking terrible, screamo in a final fantasy game? Really? Ugh.

#45 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -
@phantomsnake: Wow.  Yeah, that's pretty repugnant.
#46 Posted by Demoskinos (15131 posts) -

@Zenaxzd: Well, I stand corrected. I've only played up to the 3rd area so not that far into it yet.

#47 Posted by JJOR64 (19065 posts) -

Desu?

#48 Posted by Clinkz (1118 posts) -

Wow that music is pretty bad and I somewhat enjoyed Shootie HG in DMC 3.

#49 Edited by MrAristocrates (194 posts) -

I'm fine with that boss music, oddly. Probably because the first time I heard it, it actually fit pretty well with the situation.

Also, Crazy Chocobo is clearly a joke, guys. And a pretty funny one, if you ask me.

#50 Posted by ZenaxPure (2569 posts) -
@MrAristocrates said: 

Also, Crazy Chocobo is clearly a joke, guys. And a pretty funny one, if you ask me.

Exactly. Exactly. People do not understand jokes. 
 
I almost think it's funnier that people are angry about it without realizing it's a joke song though, almost.

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