honestly who thinks its a good idea to not even be able to obtain the ultimate weapons (realistically) before even the final boss. thats just stupid. also when i heard the sphere grid was comming back i was excited......till they decided to cap it so i couldn't power level my characters. This game as some of the dumbest game play decisions I've ever experienced. the only thing not making this shittier then FF X-2 is this at least isn't some dumb ass girl power story.

It's a shame to know you feel that way.  Personally, I don't really care about not being able to get the ultimate weapons or not having access to the entire Crystarium until the post-story play.  That's not what's most important to me.  I find the gameplay fun and the story entertaining.  It's not the best game in the series, by my estimation, but I wouldn't call it among the worst.

I wouldn't even call it a Final Fantasy game.

ah see i just saw the sphere grid and had amazing memories of 2 shotting the last boss in FF X and thought it would be amazing like that but sadly its not. also so far the story seems kinda boring and im almost done the game.

I thought this was the first Final Fantasy.  I didn't know it was a franchise.

Dear god, threads like these are turning the FF13 boards in this:

" ah see i just saw the sphere grid and had amazing memories of 2 shotting the last boss in FF X and thought it would be amazing like that but sadly its not. also so far the story seems kinda boring and im almost done the game. "

there are SOME redeming points. like i said its not the worst just damn near. the battle system is well put together.

Really, because I think it's one of the best.

OP doesn't like girls. 

yo man it haz da best grafix so it's da best lulz. 
 
 
 
 
But seriously, I got my copy in the mail today, played the first hour and a half, and have no idea what to think about it yet.

The game is terrific. I also loved 12 and disliked 10. Seems like my opinions on FF games are usually pretty unpopular... 
 
Also, 8 sucked. 7 and 9 were awesome. And 6 was better than 4. 
 
Let the madness begin!!!!

The only problem with it is the lack of content in the post game, making it a ridiculously long grind to get money for that stupid treasure hunter trophy.  If the enemies dropped gil maybe that would have fixed that problem too... 

I haven't played it myself  but since the only Final Fantasy game that I have liked since 6 was 10 I was not planing on it and this pushed me over the edge.

Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV)

" The only problem with it is the lack of content in the post game, making it a ridiculously long grind to get money for that stupid treasure hunter trophy.  If the enemies dropped gil maybe that would have fixed that problem too...  "

final fantasy 13 is great; it's 10 that's a horrible game.

I liked X-2. I thought it was pretty good.
 
When I saw this thread title I thought you were going to say it's the second worst Final Fantasy after Final Fantasy VII.
 
At least that would have been true. Ooh, I went there.
 
@Laketown: You, Sir, are wrong. Final Fantasy X is a fine game. Personally speaking, it's my favorite in the series. That doesn't count for anything; that doesn't mean anything, but it is what it is.

" Really, because I think it's one of the best. "

" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "

" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "

Best Final Fantasy game by far.

" The game is terrific. I also loved 12 and disliked 10. Seems like my opinions on FF games are usually pretty unpopular...  Also, 8 sucked. 7 and 9 were awesome. And 6 was better than 4.  Let the madness begin!!!! "

I consider this one of the best.

" The only problem with it is the lack of content in the post game, making it a ridiculously long grind to get money for that stupid treasure hunter trophy.  If the enemies dropped gil maybe that would have fixed that problem too...  "

Well i played yesterday 5 minutes, and thought it was just the regular phantasy japanese rpg game and turned it off, never to play again.  

" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "

Out of all games I've ever played, this is the second one I've actively given up on and shelved, the first being Mass Effect.

" I wouldn't even call it a Final Fantasy game. "

" @SeriousCat said:

" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "

You know..i'm not sure what I like from the FF franchise anymore..  considering FFII, FFXII, and FFXIII are my favorites in the series and they're all hated on by the fanbase "

the leveling is capped? sweet im getting it now.

" the leveling is caped? sweet im getting it now. "

" The game is terrific. I also loved 12 and disliked 10. Seems like my opinions on FF games are usually pretty unpopular...  Also, 8 sucked. 7 and 9 were awesome. And 6 was better than 4.  Let the madness begin!!!! "

" @luce said:

" @SeriousCat said:

" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "

You know..i'm not sure what I like from the FF franchise anymore..  considering FFII, FFXII, and FFXIII are my favorites in the series and they're all hated on by the fanbase "

Never trust the FF fanbase....they hate everything if it changes something that they wanted. "

 I loved Final Fantasy XIII not only as a new entry in the Final Fantasy franchise, but as a game in general. It seems that the common complaints don't apply to be whatsoever. One may complain that the linear nature of the first half of the game is a bad thing. Sure, you're being ushered forward constantly, but is this really a bad thing? Final Fantasy XIII truly excels in story and level design. The environments are all beautiful, and the story is deep and you begin to care for the characters as they grow. I'm not going to hang around grinding when I could continue to the next gorgeous locale, and deep cut scenes.
 
Speaking of grinding, that's why the level cap is in place. Sure you can grind all you want, but you can never feel over powered. While the crystarium is easy to max, you won't reach this limit until shortly before the next upgrade. That is unless you've been doing some major grinding. A huge part of the fun of FF13 comes from the battle system. if you're over leveled, you can simply mash X / A (depending on your console) until the battle is over. If you're limited in terms of leveling, that's not an option. There will be a challenge, and strategy will be employed if you want to be successful.

Final Fantasy XIII isn't a bad entry, it's just a different one. Square wanted to try some new stuff for this entry in the series, and in my opinion, they've accomplished everything they hoped for. 

I really don't know how to feel about FFXIII. Near the beginning of the game I was really into it, but the farther it got I really started to just get tired of it. When chapter 11, where the game "opens up", rolled around though, I instantly fell in love with the game and how awesome it was....then chapter 12 came. Chapter 12 and 13 took me almost 2 weeks to do just because I would play for about an hour then get into a fight that took 10 minutes straight only to run into a fight right after that which had 2 of the enemy I just killed. Because of that, I would turn off my PS3 and go do something more productive. So, to sum it up, my experience of FFXIII went from Boring->Awesome->Frustrating.
 
Also, I think the NES FFII is the worst Final Fantasy, just because of the "leveling" system and how I ended up grinding for the first five hours or so just to have a decent party.

FF X-2 was the stupidest shit I've ever played.  I mean I haven't even played FF XIII and know there's know way its as stupid as X-2.

" @CL60 said:

" @luce said:

" @SeriousCat said:

" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "

You know..i'm not sure what I like from the FF franchise anymore..  considering FFII, FFXII, and FFXIII are my favorites in the series and they're all hated on by the fanbase "

Never trust the FF fanbase....they hate everything if it changes something that they wanted. "

Isn't that the basis for all kinds of tastes? If something don't appeals to you, you're bound to hate it.  "

" @Jeust said:

" @CL60 said:

" @luce said:

" @SeriousCat said:

" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "

You know..i'm not sure what I like from the FF franchise anymore..  considering FFII, FFXII, and FFXIII are my favorites in the series and they're all hated on by the fanbase "

Never trust the FF fanbase....they hate everything if it changes something that they wanted. "

Isn't that the basis for all kinds of tastes? If something don't appeals to you, you're bound to hate it.  "

Yes, but not to this extent..a lot of the FF fanbase said this game was the worst FF ever and was an awful game because they removed towns.. "

ah see i liked 2 actually. cause it played into my loving to power level characters and make final bosses my bitch. i did that with FF 1 as well. i nuked the last boss in that game too.

" FF X-2 was the stupidest shit I've ever played.  I mean I haven't even played FF XIII and know there's know way its as stupid as X-2. "