FF 13 is now the second worst Final fantasy

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#1 Posted by swat200 (241 posts) -

honestly who thinks its a good idea to not even be able to obtain the ultimate weapons (realistically) before even the final boss. thats just stupid. also when i heard the sphere grid was comming back i was excited......till they decided to cap it so i couldn't power level my characters. This game as some of the dumbest game play decisions I've ever experienced. the only thing not making this shittier then FF X-2 is this at least isn't some dumb ass girl power story.

#2 Posted by Hailinel (24382 posts) -

It's a shame to know you feel that way.  Personally, I don't really care about not being able to get the ultimate weapons or not having access to the entire Crystarium until the post-story play.  That's not what's most important to me.  I find the gameplay fun and the story entertaining.  It's not the best game in the series, by my estimation, but I wouldn't call it among the worst.

#3 Posted by lucas_kelly (769 posts) -

I wouldn't even call it a Final Fantasy game.

#4 Posted by swat200 (241 posts) -

ah see i just saw the sphere grid and had amazing memories of 2 shotting the last boss in FF X and thought it would be amazing like that but sadly its not. also so far the story seems kinda boring and im almost done the game.

#5 Posted by ArchScabby (5809 posts) -

I thought this was the first Final Fantasy.  I didn't know it was a franchise.

#6 Edited by ricetopher (1046 posts) -

Dear god, threads like these are turning the FF13 boards in this:

 
#7 Posted by swat200 (241 posts) -
@ArchScabby:  lol i see trolls exist on GB as well
#8 Posted by Hailinel (24382 posts) -
@swat200 said:
" ah see i just saw the sphere grid and had amazing memories of 2 shotting the last boss in FF X and thought it would be amazing like that but sadly its not. also so far the story seems kinda boring and im almost done the game. "
If there's any reason to block full progression on the Crystarium, it's to prevent exactly that.
#9 Posted by ricetopher (1046 posts) -
@swat200: You haven't come across Lambert yet? You soon will though since this is a FF13 thread.
#10 Posted by swat200 (241 posts) -

there are SOME redeming points. like i said its not the worst just damn near. the battle system is well put together.

#11 Posted by swat200 (241 posts) -
@ricetopher: lol nope have yet to meet whoever that is. so you actually liked the game?
#12 Posted by LiquidPrince (15907 posts) -

Really, because I think it's one of the best.

#13 Edited by ricetopher (1046 posts) -
@swat200: Very much, though I am very much aware of its flaws. I don't think I would put half of my spring break into a game I didn't like.
#14 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

OP doesn't like girls. 

#15 Posted by Red (5994 posts) -

yo man it haz da best grafix so it's da best lulz. 
 
 
 
 
But seriously, I got my copy in the mail today, played the first hour and a half, and have no idea what to think about it yet.

#16 Posted by Meptron (1077 posts) -

The game is terrific. I also loved 12 and disliked 10. Seems like my opinions on FF games are usually pretty unpopular... 
 
Also, 8 sucked. 7 and 9 were awesome. And 6 was better than 4. 
 
Let the madness begin!!!!

#17 Posted by swat200 (241 posts) -
@ricetopher:  you can see what im getting at though. considering what i come to these games looking for
#18 Posted by Swaboo (451 posts) -

The only problem with it is the lack of content in the post game, making it a ridiculously long grind to get money for that stupid treasure hunter trophy.  If the enemies dropped gil maybe that would have fixed that problem too... 

#19 Posted by ricetopher (1046 posts) -
@swat200: I guess thats where me going into this game expecting the worst after the English trailers helped my enjoyment.
#20 Posted by swat200 (241 posts) -
@Meptron: BLASHPHEMER. *gets his torch* KILL I MUSSTTT haha j/k
#21 Posted by swat200 (241 posts) -
@ricetopher: ah see i kinda liked the trailer for FF 13. i thought it was gonna be an epic love story like X ( if you havnt guessed yet i like X best of all)
#22 Posted by DarkShaper (1325 posts) -

I haven't played it myself  but since the only Final Fantasy game that I have liked since 6 was 10 I was not planing on it and this pushed me over the edge.

#23 Posted by swat200 (241 posts) -
@DarkShaper: probably for the best and 6 and 10 were both quite epic.
#24 Posted by SeriousCat (61 posts) -

Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV)

#25 Posted by TugMyBanana (15 posts) -

This game is great, I can't for the life of me figure out where all the negativity is coming from. Some of the more universally acclaimed FF games are unplayable by today's standards, the gameplay has evolved for the better. Try playing Lost Odyssey and tell me you're not taking 8 steps backwards.
#26 Posted by LiquidPrince (15907 posts) -
@Swaboo said:
" The only problem with it is the lack of content in the post game, making it a ridiculously long grind to get money for that stupid treasure hunter trophy.  If the enemies dropped gil maybe that would have fixed that problem too...  "
Yeah, that's the only wierd thing I think. Why don't the enemies drop some Gil?
#27 Posted by Animasta (14669 posts) -

final fantasy 13 is great; it's 10 that's a horrible game.

#28 Edited by ZanzibarBreeze (3070 posts) -

I liked X-2. I thought it was pretty good.
 
When I saw this thread title I thought you were going to say it's the second worst Final Fantasy after Final Fantasy VII.
 
At least that would have been true. Ooh, I went there.
 
@Laketown: You, Sir, are wrong. Final Fantasy X is a fine game. Personally speaking, it's my favorite in the series. That doesn't count for anything; that doesn't mean anything, but it is what it is.

#29 Posted by XATMO92 (11 posts) -

I haven't played it yet, but I've caught glimpses of it and played bits and pieces while I off visiting my family, since my younger brother owns it. I have a positive impression of it, and I think the capped crystarium is a good idea in that it doesn't allow you to madly grind and make the content too easy. The characters are fairly interesting as well. Actually, I think I like this cast the most out of all the Final Fantasy games, except perhaps 6.  
 
Since we're talking about the other FF games, I didn't like X, am pretty indifferent to 4 and 7, didn't play 9 because of awesome playstation hardware, and enjoyed 6. X-2 had a good battle system, as I recall. But Final Fantasy Tactics is where it's at.
#30 Edited by xyzygy (9943 posts) -
@LiquidPrince said:

" Really, because I think it's one of the best. "

Very much agreed. The game is so freaking fun and rewarding and has a really addicting post game. One of my favorite battle systems ever. 
 
@SeriousCat said:
" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "
Wow really? Is that the one with Firion? Is it really that bad?
#31 Posted by Hailinel (24382 posts) -
@SeriousCat said:
" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "
I'm sorry, I think you mean Final Fantasy V.
 
Opinions are a wonderful thing, are they not?
#32 Posted by Shadow (4979 posts) -

Best Final Fantasy game by far.

#33 Posted by Aus_azn (2224 posts) -
@Meptron said:
" The game is terrific. I also loved 12 and disliked 10. Seems like my opinions on FF games are usually pretty unpopular...  Also, 8 sucked. 7 and 9 were awesome. And 6 was better than 4.  Let the madness begin!!!! "
Nah, only your 12 and 10 switch are unpopular. Everything else is about right. My opinion on the other hand, is a little bit stranger. Loved 8 and 10, despised 7. 
 
This is one of my favorite FFs primarily because the game remains difficult all the way until the end. And if you wanted rankings you needed to nerf your characters' equipment anyhow. So I don't see TC's complaint.
#34 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

I consider this one of the best.

#35 Edited by Turambar (6732 posts) -
@Swaboo said:

" The only problem with it is the lack of content in the post game, making it a ridiculously long grind to get money for that stupid treasure hunter trophy.  If the enemies dropped gil maybe that would have fixed that problem too...  "

Kill adamantoise, get money.  Get money, kill adamatoise.  To be more specific, their common drop is the platinum ore and the rare drop is the trapzehedron.  So yeah...
#36 Edited by Jeust (10547 posts) -

Well i played yesterday 5 minutes, and thought it was just the regular phantasy japanese rpg game and turned it off, never to play again.  

#37 Posted by luce (4045 posts) -
@SeriousCat said:
" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "
You know..i'm not sure what I like from the FF franchise anymore..
 
considering FFII, FFXII, and FFXIII are my favorites in the series and they're all hated on by the fanbase
#38 Posted by Fallen189 (4980 posts) -

Out of all games I've ever played, this is the second one I've actively given up on and shelved, the first being Mass Effect.

#39 Posted by zyn (2591 posts) -
@lucas_kelly said:
" I wouldn't even call it a Final Fantasy game. "
this.
#40 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@luce said:
" @SeriousCat said:
" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "
You know..i'm not sure what I like from the FF franchise anymore..  considering FFII, FFXII, and FFXIII are my favorites in the series and they're all hated on by the fanbase "
Never trust the FF fanbase....they hate everything if it changes something that they wanted.
#41 Edited by kashif1 (1428 posts) -

the leveling is capped? sweet im getting it now.

#42 Edited by SuperSecretAgenda (696 posts) -
@kashif1 said:

" the leveling is caped? sweet im getting it now. "

Yes, it wears a cape now.

@Meptron said:

" The game is terrific. I also loved 12 and disliked 10. Seems like my opinions on FF games are usually pretty unpopular...  Also, 8 sucked. 7 and 9 were awesome. And 6 was better than 4.  Let the madness begin!!!! "

 This post makes Ex-Death sad. Very sad.
 
He is a sad tree now. How does that make you feel? 
#43 Edited by Jeust (10547 posts) -
@CL60 said:

" @luce said:

" @SeriousCat said:

" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "
You know..i'm not sure what I like from the FF franchise anymore..  considering FFII, FFXII, and FFXIII are my favorites in the series and they're all hated on by the fanbase "
Never trust the FF fanbase....they hate everything if it changes something that they wanted. "
Isn't that the basis for all kinds of tastes? If something don't appeals to you, you're bound to hate it. 
#44 Edited by MikPick (333 posts) -

 I loved Final Fantasy XIII not only as a new entry in the Final Fantasy franchise, but as a game in general. It seems that the common complaints don't apply to be whatsoever. One may complain that the linear nature of the first half of the game is a bad thing. Sure, you're being ushered forward constantly, but is this really a bad thing? Final Fantasy XIII truly excels in story and level design. The environments are all beautiful, and the story is deep and you begin to care for the characters as they grow. I'm not going to hang around grinding when I could continue to the next gorgeous locale, and deep cut scenes.
 
Speaking of grinding, that's why the level cap is in place. Sure you can grind all you want, but you can never feel over powered. While the crystarium is easy to max, you won't reach this limit until shortly before the next upgrade. That is unless you've been doing some major grinding. A huge part of the fun of FF13 comes from the battle system. if you're over leveled, you can simply mash X / A (depending on your console) until the battle is over. If you're limited in terms of leveling, that's not an option. There will be a challenge, and strategy will be employed if you want to be successful.

Final Fantasy XIII isn't a bad entry, it's just a different one. Square wanted to try some new stuff for this entry in the series, and in my opinion, they've accomplished everything they hoped for. 

#45 Edited by Vyse (74 posts) -

I really don't know how to feel about FFXIII. Near the beginning of the game I was really into it, but the farther it got I really started to just get tired of it. When chapter 11, where the game "opens up", rolled around though, I instantly fell in love with the game and how awesome it was....then chapter 12 came. Chapter 12 and 13 took me almost 2 weeks to do just because I would play for about an hour then get into a fight that took 10 minutes straight only to run into a fight right after that which had 2 of the enemy I just killed. Because of that, I would turn off my PS3 and go do something more productive. So, to sum it up, my experience of FFXIII went from Boring->Awesome->Frustrating.
 
Also, I think the NES FFII is the worst Final Fantasy, just because of the "leveling" system and how I ended up grinding for the first five hours or so just to have a decent party.

#46 Posted by ChristianCastillo (1178 posts) -

FF X-2 was the stupidest shit I've ever played.  I mean I haven't even played FF XIII and know there's know way its as stupid as X-2.

#47 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @CL60 said:

" @luce said:

" @SeriousCat said:

" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "
You know..i'm not sure what I like from the FF franchise anymore..  considering FFII, FFXII, and FFXIII are my favorites in the series and they're all hated on by the fanbase "
Never trust the FF fanbase....they hate everything if it changes something that they wanted. "
Isn't that the basis for all kinds of tastes? If something don't appeals to you, you're bound to hate it.  "
Yes, but not to this extent..a lot of the FF fanbase said this game was the worst FF ever and was an awful game because they removed towns..
#48 Posted by Jeust (10547 posts) -
@CL60 said:
" @Jeust said:
" @CL60 said:

" @luce said:

" @SeriousCat said:

" Final Fantasy II will always be the worst numbered FF in my eyes. (And by that I mean II not IV) "
You know..i'm not sure what I like from the FF franchise anymore..  considering FFII, FFXII, and FFXIII are my favorites in the series and they're all hated on by the fanbase "
Never trust the FF fanbase....they hate everything if it changes something that they wanted. "
Isn't that the basis for all kinds of tastes? If something don't appeals to you, you're bound to hate it.  "
Yes, but not to this extent..a lot of the FF fanbase said this game was the worst FF ever and was an awful game because they removed towns.. "
True to a extent, since towns with it's minigames and quests introduced a bit of non-linearity and were a nice change from the dungeon crawling.  
 
For me the main problem is that it feels a step back when compared with FFXII.  
#49 Posted by swat200 (241 posts) -

ah see i liked 2 actually. cause it played into my loving to power level characters and make final bosses my bitch. i did that with FF 1 as well. i nuked the last boss in that game too.

#50 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7615 posts) -
@ChristianCastillo said:
" FF X-2 was the stupidest shit I've ever played.  I mean I haven't even played FF XIII and know there's know way its as stupid as X-2. "
While I'd agree, I'd consider X-2 a spin-off game, unrelated to the main series.
If we're counting all the spin-off games than XIII is no where close to being among the worst.
 
But if we're just doing I-XIII, then I'd agree with the original poster.

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