I've never played a Final Fantasy, and I bought this game.

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#1 Edited by Napalm (9020 posts) -

What am I getting into? 
 
Do you have any first-timer advice, or a particular 'mindset', so to speak, when I get into this game? I really have no idea how to play, the systems and mechanics, but I'm superduper interested and I'm feeling quite adventurous.
 
Also, please don't respond with, "go play Final Fantasy _ instead."

#2 Posted by YI_Orange (1172 posts) -

If I remember correctly FF XIII is pretty good with it's tutorials. Other than that, I don't really know how to explain. If you have experience with RPGS things will just click with you and you'll be fine, if not, I don't think it will be too difficult but I feel like there's some things you might miss. As for what those things are, I don't know.

#3 Posted by Toms115 (2317 posts) -

rofl you picked the wrong ff to start with.

#4 Posted by Icicle7x3 (1203 posts) -

go play Final Fantasy 6 instead

#5 Posted by Bocam (3819 posts) -

go play Final Fantasy 9 instead.

#6 Posted by AlexW00d (6427 posts) -

Go play Final Fantasy XVI instead... Am I doing it right?

#7 Posted by Rolyatkcinmai (2699 posts) -

@YI_Orange said:

If I remember correctly FF XIII is pretty good with it's tutorials.

That's the understatement of the fucking century.

#8 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -

I do what I want. 
 
@YI_Orange: Thanks for the honest response. I've heard it's slow to start and heavy on tutorials, so that should be good. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing anything when I go to boot this up.

#9 Posted by core1065 (550 posts) -

I've been playing Final Fantasy for almost 19 years. I would recommend to start with the classics. Final Fantasy 4 or 6, FF7 and after are great but they start to fall into a formula.

#10 Posted by FritzDude (2273 posts) -

Just hit the auto attack button and you'll do fine throughout the game.

#11 Posted by Bocam (3819 posts) -

@Rolyatkcinmai:20 hour tutorial made me go crazy

#12 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@FritzDude said:

Just hit the auto attack button and you'll do fine throughout the game.

Really? I guess I might try this when I start off, but I don't want to 'autopilot' through the entire game.
#13 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

@Napalm said:

What am I getting into? Do you have any first-timer advice, or a particular 'mindset', so to speak, when I get into this game? I really have no idea how to play, the systems and mechanics, but I'm superduper interested and I'm feeling quite adventurous. Also, please don't respond with, "go play Final Fantasy _ instead."

Let it flow. Don't concentrate too hard on the story because the game struggles to tell it properly. Don't worry too much about losing (the game makes it hard to lose) and be prepared to go in a straight line for around 20 hrs - don't worry the game does open up somewhat after that.

#14 Posted by core1065 (550 posts) -

FF 13 is the only FF I haven't finish. I wish they would take Giantbombs advice and take a DAMN BREAK!!!!

#15 Posted by Spoonman671 (4768 posts) -

Return it and get any other Final Fantasy game.

#16 Posted by FreakAche (2955 posts) -

Go play Final Fantasy _ instead.

#17 Edited by Napalm (9020 posts) -

Holy crap! This game is three discs! 
 
Well, I suppose that's not that surprising considering what I've heard in regards to the games lengths. 
 
@SeriouslyNow: <3

#18 Posted by stubbleman (292 posts) -

Once your about an hour in, and you have no clue what's going on and everyone is just spouting gibberish, get over to the datalog and read through the entries. Then all that gibberish will start to make sense. It goes a long way to not hating all of the characters and the story for like the first six to ten hours. The story is actually pretty decent once you know all of that important back-story. Granted, you shouldn't have to go to the trouble, but that's what you've gotten yourself in to. It won't take long to read through and at least you won't hate yourself for buying the game that way. That's my advice going in. Read the datalog so that you can enjoy the story.

#19 Posted by Galiant (2195 posts) -

Hope you enjoy it! I didn't quite understand the story until the second time through, but it explores some interesting themes. The combat system is great and it looks gorgeous.

The tutorial is long indeed, as mentioned, but it does open up later. You have to be patient to get any enjoyment out of this I think, it's generally quite slow paced.

#20 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

FF13 is pretty good about telling you what you need to know. *awaits angry comments*

#21 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@Napalm said:

Holy crap! This game is three discs!

Well, I suppose that's not that surprising considering what I've heard in regards to the games lengths.

@SeriouslyNow: <3

Ah, the Xbox 360 version.

You might find the game slow-going at first. Final Fantasy XIII takes its time with opening up the gameplay to the player, and you won't have your full party together for some time to come. But some general advice I have for this game in particular, off the top of my head:

  • Status Effects: Most Final Fantasy games don't really use status affecting spells very well, but in FFXIII, they're both effective and necessary.
  • Eidolon Battles: These are probably the trickiest fights in the game because they don't follow the normal rules of combat. Different Eidolons have different weaknesses that fill their gauges faster.
  • Avoid the temptation to use auto-battle. It's not nearly as effective as manual command selection, especially as you get further in the game.
  • Scan your enemies to learn their weaknesses. Your AI-controlled allies will fight more effectively (and you'll know what to use, too.)
  • Get ready to shift paradigms at the drop of a hat, and be sure to set up paradigms for a variety of combat situations.
#22 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

Im guessing this'll be your last FF as well.

#23 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
The music in this game is awesome.
#24 Posted by SoldierG654342 (1819 posts) -

The combat in the game is basically a flashier version of Persona 3. Personally, it made me want to tear my hair out, but if that sounds appealing to you then you should enjoy yourself. 

#25 Posted by TheHT (11767 posts) -

Kind of a bummer. Hopefully the sequel is better.

#26 Posted by xyzygy (10077 posts) -

FF13 is amazing. There is no need to ask for advice because the game's battle system, while it can get complex after Chapter 10-11, very slowly opens itself up to you so you can learn things from the foundations up. Have fun with it!

#27 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@SoldierG654342 said:

The combat in the game is basically a flashier version of Persona 3. Personally, it made me want to tear my hair out, but if that sounds appealing to you then you should enjoy yourself.

HAHAHAHAHA no.

#28 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@Hailinel said:

HAHAHAHAHA no.

lmao
#29 Posted by ESREVER (2697 posts) -
@Napalm: You'll probably have an easier time getting into XIII since you didn't play any other Final Fantasy games. I was the same way. Picked up XIII without having any substantial experience with the previous entries and understood the mechanics and gameplay for XIII just fine. 
I think we're better off because we didn't play the previous ones. I enjoyed the hell out of XIII. Whereas others will just complain that its not like the others. 
Took me about 66 hours to beat it.
#30 Edited by SoldierG654342 (1819 posts) -
@Hailinel: Note the qualifier "basically." In broad strokes, they are mechanically similar. You can't assume direct control of your party members short of basic behavior modifiers (Paradigms vs. Act Freely, Conserve SP, ect.), you loose when the party leader is incapacitated, changing Paradigms/Personas fundamentally alters what skill you have assess to (though that applies you your whole party in 13) and the best way to succeeded is to determine an enemies weakness so that the AI can adapt it's strategy. 
#31 Edited by Grissefar (2830 posts) -

The best advice I can give is to read a bit in the story related compendium in the beginning. It's basically a fantastic story that is told in a very shitty way since it leaves out important information, without which, the story doesn't make sense. What is a L'Cie? And a Fal'Cie? Ok, but how about a Cie'th? Only the compendium tells you, but the game keeps referencing these things.

Else sit back and enjoy the pretty auto battles. The combat is far too fast to be fiddling with manual spellcasting, as you will probably learn.

#32 Edited by Aus_azn (2224 posts) -
@Rolyatkcinmai said:

@YI_Orange said:

If I remember correctly FF XIII is pretty good with it's tutorials.

That's the understatement of the fucking century.

Seconded. The game literally walks you through its battle system step-by-step, and if you still don't get it by its obvious (and distant) conclusion, you're a moron.
#33 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@Grissefar said:

Else sit back and enjoy the pretty auto battles. The combat is far too fast to be fiddling with manual spellcasting, and you will probably learn.

No it's not. I played through almost the entire game without using auto-battle.

#34 Posted by IBurningStar (2190 posts) -

Read the compendium. I think it is beyond shitty that you have to do that, but you have to do that. You can honestly rely on auto battle for most the game. Only exception to this is later boss fights. However, if you rely on it too much early on, you might not get the experience and familiarity with the mechanics that you'll need to handle the later encounters.  But you can use the auto battle however much you want.
 
The key to the game is having the right paradigms set up in advance, and just knowing when to switch. 

#35 Posted by Grissefar (2830 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@Grissefar said:

Else sit back and enjoy the pretty auto battles. The combat is far too fast to be fiddling with manual spellcasting, and you will probably learn.

No it's not. I played through almost the entire game without using auto-battle.

But I think it is.

#36 Posted by Frederik (377 posts) -

Just don't judge us FF fans based on this one please

#37 Posted by DragoonKain1687 (702 posts) -

Well, its a 20 hour tutorial until the game starts, so you won't be having problems. You may get stuck with some of the Summon Boss fights, but with some retries, you can get through them.

#38 Posted by Getz (3154 posts) -

You really shouldn't be playing 13 as your first... you MIGHT be INCLINED to perhaps CLOSELY EXAMINE the snes classics first. I'm not saying you should play them or anything like that...

#39 Posted by Pessh (2459 posts) -

Read the codex thingy, whore status spells and persevere.

#40 Posted by SomeJerk (3388 posts) -

I'll give you a one line review:

You're getting into a good lengthy action-adventure game with beautiful cut scenes and some sweet combat challenges for your mind to work out, despite being on-rails it's a good trip you'll remember and maybe one day revisit.

The haters need to drop some of their needs and smell this console generation.

#41 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@Frederik said:

Just don't judge us FF fans based on this one please

I don't even know what the fuck that means.
#42 Posted by Beforet (2932 posts) -

Read the codex if you want to have any hope of understanding the game's ((actually kinda simple) plot. As well, the game has a deep looking crafting system. Forget about it. You can not take advantage of it until 20 hours in when everything opens up. When fighting Eidolons, let yourself die. For some reason you can't change your paradigms going in unless you die first. Otherwise it's pretty hard to lose a battle and there are no consequences for doing so. The post combat score does absolutely nothing.

#43 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@Grissefar said:

@Hailinel said:

@Grissefar said:

Else sit back and enjoy the pretty auto battles. The combat is far too fast to be fiddling with manual spellcasting, and you will probably learn.

No it's not. I played through almost the entire game without using auto-battle.

But I think it is.

Even if you think it is, the experience of even one person having no trouble proves you wrong.

#44 Posted by BulletproofMonk (2730 posts) -

Use status affecting spells and your life will be much easier. Saboteur and Synergist classes are extremely helpful in boss battles.

#45 Posted by AURON570 (1677 posts) -

If you are looking for a really good video walkthrough of the game, there's a really good one here
 
Also the person who uploaded that walkthrough also has some notes that he made, you can find them here. But he makes those notes mostly for himself, so you may not understand some of it. 
 
My only experience with the game is through this guy's walkthrough. And I remember him saying "the battles go by a lot faster if you actually know what you're doing and don't always use auto-battle". From what I remember this includes, knowing how to make the most out of stagger, using buffs and debuffs and taking advantage of ATB refresh. 
 
I hope you enjoy the game dude.

#46 Posted by Grissefar (2830 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@Grissefar said:

@Hailinel said:

@Grissefar said:

Else sit back and enjoy the pretty auto battles. The combat is far too fast to be fiddling with manual spellcasting, and you will probably learn.

No it's not. I played through almost the entire game without using auto-battle.

But I think it is.

Even if you think it is, the experience of even one person having no trouble proves you wrong.

No you dickhole, don't you get it? It's a matter of taste, which is why I wrote I think it is. Man, you just don't stop with your absolutes - let the poor guy decide for himself, Jesus Christ! Now stop your bullshit answer right there - please don't reply, because I don't want to have any more of this stupid argument with you.

#47 Posted by Stradivari (24 posts) -

^Awkward... 
 
I think the only thing you'll have any trouble picking up in FFXIII, if you've never played an FF game before, is the names of all the items and spells, but once you learn one game you can play them all. Enjoy! I thought it was a pretty fun game.

#48 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@Grissefar said:

@Hailinel said:

@Grissefar said:

@Hailinel said:

@Grissefar said:

Else sit back and enjoy the pretty auto battles. The combat is far too fast to be fiddling with manual spellcasting, and you will probably learn.

No it's not. I played through almost the entire game without using auto-battle.

But I think it is.

Even if you think it is, the experience of even one person having no trouble proves you wrong.

No you dickhole, don't you get it? It's a matter of taste, which is why I wrote I think it is. Man, you just don't stop with your absolutes - let the poor guy decide for himself, Jesus Christ! Now stop your bullshit answer right there - please don't reply, because I don't want to have any more of this stupid argument with you.

Your initial statement didn't express your point as a matter of taste, but as a matter of fact. You stated, specifically, "The combat is far too fast to be fiddling with manual spellcasting, and you will probably learn."

And go easy on the insults, chief.

#49 Posted by JackSukeru (5963 posts) -

I only have to finish Duke Nukem Forever (which, by the way, doesn't let you enter the ladies' bathroom >:( ) and Other M and I'll finally be ready to unwrap and play it myself. I was gonna play through Resonance of Fate first as well, but...uugh, that game demands more than it rewards and I couldn't stick with it.

Anyhow, just wanted to wish you (and myself) luck. Hope you're able to see it though!

#50 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@RockmanBionics said:

I only have to finish Duke Nukem Forever (which, by the way, doesn't let you enter the ladies' bathroom >:( ) and Other M and I'll finally be ready to unwrap and play it myself. I was gonna play through Resonance of Fate first as well, but...uugh, that game demands more than it rewards and I couldn't stick with it.

Anyhow, just wanted to wish you (and myself) luck. Hope you're able to see it though!

I dropped this game about four hours in. 
 
I'm at that point in my life that I'm not interested in learning an entirely new type of game, especially one that has a lot of different stuff going on and plays completely different to anything I've played before.

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