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Final Fantasy XIII

Game » consists of 16 releases. First released on Mar 09, 2010

This entry into the Final Fantasy universe is set in the worlds of Pulse and Cocoon. Players take control of multiple characters who are caught in a war between these worlds.

Why so much hate for this game?

#1 Posted by Dragoness1993 (37 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

There is one thing that I don't understand is why everyone seems to share so much hate for this game? Sure it is a bit long-winded, but the story is really interesting and the game play is really good. I don't get why everyone says its not a good game, everyone is entitled to their own opinion sure but I just don't get why everyone dislikes it so much??

#2 Posted by Atramentous (2461 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

There wasn't anything really wrong. Gamers just have ADAD these days and cant handle anything with story driven cut scenes in it.

#3 Posted by FluxWaveZ (17841 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

FFXIII has a Metacritic score of 83, so it's not as if the game was universally trashed. It might be the case of a very vocal minority.

#4 Posted by killacam (1131 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

@Dragoness1993: if you've played any final fantasy from X and earlier, you should know this answer

#5 Posted by Simplexity (1324 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I was completely lost and had no idea what the fuck was going on for like the 10 first hours of that game, I consider myself a fairly patient person but that was ridiculous.

I liked the combat though.

#6 Posted by StarvingGamer (5940 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

It's mostly assholes.

Don't get me wrong, there are legitimate issues with the game, but a majority of the harshest critics obviously either A) did not play the game, B) did not play the game nearly long enough to form an informed opinion, or C) wanted to seem cool and anti-establishment. Unfortunately the least informed opinions are often the easiest ones for the mindless internet drones to parrot.

#7 Posted by kashif1 (1428 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

Its a final fantasy game, they all get hate. Seriously I've never seen a more divided fan base than the final fantasy fan base.

#8 Posted by DeF (4160 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

so you know many people dislike it but you haven't heard one single time why?

it's a long corridor, no towns, many people don't like the characters and it only gets going and opens up after 10-20 hours or so if I remember correctly. that's not what people wanted apparently. it got its praise for the combat and pretty graphics but most people cited the EXTREMELY long ramp up and narrow corridors that were so annoying (because you'd always be reminded of the linearity on the mini map)

#9 Posted by Irvandus (2275 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

The characters are 2D, the story is boring and thick with no way to get into it, the combat while a good idea is just boring, the dungeon design is straight forward and boring, the character advancement system is good but you don't get any control over it until too late into the game. Hope sucks.

To sum it up: It's not a very good game in my opinion.

#10 Posted by Hailinel (18045 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

@StarvingGamer said:

It's mostly assholes.

Don't get me wrong, there are legitimate issues with the game, but a majority of the harshest critics obviously either A) did not play the game, B) did not play the game nearly long enough to form an informed opinion, or C) wanted to seem cool and anti-establishment. Unfortunately the least informed opinions are often the easiest ones for the mindless internet drones to parrot.

This.

#11 Posted by killacam (1131 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

the open world, when finally presented to you, isn't even worth exploring. it's basically a wider hallway, and all the side quests are the same but with a slightly different enemy to find and kill. it's a shallow game with gorgeous visuals that delude you into thinking there's more to it than there is.

#12 Posted by Dragoness1993 (37 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I have not actually played any FF games before X, so I can't really judge what they were like but in my opinion, I think FF13 is a good game. I think they made FF13-2 for people to understand the plot better and think that's the main reason why people dislike it so much because they do not understand what is going on.

#13 Posted by Dagbiker (6358 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

It wasnt bad, I liked Final Fantasy 9 better, but that was because of vivi and the art direction. Final Fantasy 13 seemed like a action drama that wanted to be a action flick.

dont get me wrong it was compleatly fine, and i enjoyed the 3 hours i have played of it so far, and i do plan to play more of it, i just dont like the long stretches of combat that they have you run through.

#14 Posted by MildMolasses (2016 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I played 25 hours of that game. I got right to the part where it opened up and stopped playing. No matter how amazing the final chapters of that game may have been, it took way to long, and was way too uninteresting by the time it go there. Other than the black guy, there was absolutely nothing memorable about any of the characters. I stopped caring because it was boring, and all that happened when I got to that giant open field was that I realised that I didn't feel like power levelling to try and make this game fun. I feel like I gave that game more than a fair chance, but whatever greatness came with the final fantasy name has clearly disappered.

Now for a game that did capture that greatness, Lost Odyssey is fantastic and SE should really look at how that game managed to combine old and new JRPG styles in an incredible way

#15 Posted by The_Ruiner (604 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I wanted to like this game, I've been playing FF since the SNES, but it's far too linear, the characters are uninteresting in my opinion, the story is super heavy on melodrama but light on actual character development. The first 20 minutes of the game are enough to turn a lot of people away. There is no context at all. You are just running down a linear corridor fighting robo-tigers...for a long time. I think most of the people that dislike it are either Final Fantasy-haters (for which there is no swaying one way or the other) or people who played FF for decades and remember a time when they prized actual gameplay over expensive cut-scenes. (I'm the latter)

#16 Posted by Brendan (6732 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I found the game to be alright. I would give it a 3 out of 5.

I really liked the combat system. I found the lengthy super linear progression tiring, and the open world stuff to be too little, too late. The story was ok, however the characters themselves were annoying. If the world opened up in the sequel then I could put up with the story and characters again to play it.

#17 Posted by CaLe (2491 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

Vanille.

#18 Posted by Aetheldod (2476 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I for once was glad of the streamlined experience of FF XIII , lets be honest folks japanese cant make interesting hub towns or interesting non critical npcs (reason why I couldnt keep playing FFXII). And I guess people wanted FFVII again without realising that they can play it again in today´s consoles anyway.

#19 Posted by alternate (2375 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

A lot of people dislike the new battle system (although many do). A lot of people dislike the linear path. A lot of people dislike the characters and especially certain voice actors.

I suspect it is mainly due to certain expectations of a FF game, if this were called anything else it would not polarize people so much. I really liked FF12 though and lots of people hate that too.

#20 Posted by IAmNotBatman (497 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

The battle system was great, the voice acting, story and characters make me want to hurl.

#21 Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer (301 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

The first 20 hours of the game are kinda savage. The gameplay remains simplistic and it takes forever for the story and characters to kick off.

Most people can't handle it. I don't blame them, I only made it because I had my girlfriend around to help MST3K the game.

#22 Posted by MiniPato (2267 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

Battle system was great. The game's problem was that that battling was all that the game was. Battle after constant battle and even after the game "opens up" toward the end, it just opens up from a corridor full of monsters to battle to a room full of monsters to battle. There is nothing to do in the big open area except more battling and a weak chocobo treasure hunt mode. And half the characters are extremely unlikable in the beginning, so much so that when the game tries to redeem them, it's not enough for me to still not hate them. The RPG mechanics are light at best. I still think the sphere grid/chrystarium is terrible and you don't get any equipment other than your weapon and accessories. Also no fucking towns, no down time to just lose yourself and wander about the world they created. I'd say there are maybe 2 times throughout the whole game where you get to some place close to a city hub and one of those times it's just a dungeon that takes place in a city.

If it weren't called Final Fantasy, I wouldn't have hated it as much. Petty? Maybe, but with the Final Fantasy name, especially a major numbered one, comes certain standards and expectations. If you're gonna deviate so much from that, then don't call it Final Fantasy XIII or just call it Final Fantasy Chrystarium Chronicles or whatever.

I'm cautiously looking out for FFXIII-2 because I think Square was spending 3/4 of the development of FFXIII freaking out over how they were gonna turn the debut trailer into a fucking game. So now that they actually have a battle system in place and a mythos, I can at least hope they make a game that lives up to what I expected out of the first one.

#23 Posted by TobbRobb (3302 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I was pissed how enclosed it was compared to other Final Fantasy games, then I pulled the stick out of my ass and enjoyed the ride. The people you talk about still havent removed it.

Its a shallow but pretty experience, with horrible and fantastic characters, an interesting world with varied designs. Its just enjoyable, good on the eyes and ears, just dont think too much.

I really liked it, for all its faults (Vanille, slowburn).

#24 Posted by MiniPato (2267 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

@TobbRobb said:

I was pissed how enclosed it was compared to other Final Fantasy games, then I pulled the stick out of my ass and enjoyed the ride. The people you talk about still havent removed it.

Its a shallow but pretty experience, with horrible and fantastic characters, an interesting world with varied designs. Its just enjoyable, good on the eyes and ears, just dont think too much.

I really liked it, for all its faults (Vanille, slowburn).

Sure, if stick = brain and ass = head, then I can see how you would enjoy it!

#25 Edited by NegativeCero (2491 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I would argue that the story is not very good because of the fact that I had to look things up in the in-game encyclopedia to know what the hell was even going on in their convoluted story. As people have mentioned, the characters weren't memorable. Then there's the part where I spent 20-ish hours until it took the brakes off and let me play a Final Fantasy game. But despite all that, I loved the combat system. I don't hate it, I'm just indifferent about it.

#26 Posted by Make_Me_Mad (2708 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I just couldn't stand that paradigm system. It made every encounter in that game feel like the most boring thing in the world, just sitting and watching my guys jump around and act like it was an action game while I occasionally switch roles. Could not have felt more detached from the game. Another big problem was that despite the game world having multiple cities, you never actually get to do any exploration- it's always just walking to the next trigger that will start you on a long pathway full of enemies, and then repeat.

#27 Posted by sixghost (1678 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

Awful characters, poor story, incredibly boring and linear environments for the first 30 hours.
 
The combat system was great though, it deserved to be in a better game.

#28 Posted by Ubersmake (683 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I played for about 10 hours, then stopped. I still want to go back and play the game sometime, because it's a ridiculously beautiful game, but there are other games I'd rather play before I get back to it.

For me it was the characters. I can't stand Snow, and Hope is even worse, and when Hope tried to confront him a few hours in, and couldn't, it really turned me off to the game. It was an issue of pacing. These characters are going to be interacting for a good 40+ hours, and if the majority of that time will be filled with it's-hard-for-me-to-explains and I'll-tell-you-laters, which is what the first 10 hours seemed to indicate to me, then it doesn't make me optimistic for how character development will play out for the remainder of the game. There is a place for suspense in a story. This wasn't suspense. It was fluff.

#29 Posted by OmegaChosen (644 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I don't hate the game. I thought it was fine. What made me stop playing was that my goals boiled down to going down a straight hallway ad nauseum.

I wanted to finish FFXIII, I really did, but it never felt like I ever got anywhere. I was just going down straight lines that led to more straight lines. From what I heard there weren't even towns to at least have some kind of hub to rest. Maybe I'm just set by the old JRPG standard that your goal was to reach the next town where you'd get your next quest and whatnot. So I just sort of subconsciously kept running down those halls hoping to reach that "goal" and rest point but seeing as there's no towns I never got that break and I just sort of broke away after a point from fatigue.

XII-2 seems to fix at least a few of these problems, I just have to think on whether I'll play it or not after not having completed the first one. Aside from that, I'm really hoping Versus is palatable to my tastes. The battle system is supposedly KH-fare and I rather enjoyed the battle system of BBS so that seems fine. Hopefully it can avoid the hallway fatigue that turned me away from XIII proper.

#30 Posted by mazik765 (2284 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

Well it sold well enough to warrant a sequel, so it can't have been that hated. I didn't really care for it just because it felt like it was way too long for what content there was. The actual gameplay was actually a lot of fun for me, it just kind of over stayed it's welcome.

#31 Posted by EightBitShik (1278 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I think what made me dislike the game or at least put it on the back burner was the leveling system. I really liked how you leveled in 10 and wanted something more like that. I don't know maybe I just had to give it more of a chance. I didn't like the combat in 12 but then really started to enjoy it after some time.

#32 Posted by CaptainCharisma (312 posts) - 1 year, 4 months ago

I really wanted to like the game but so much made me dislike it. I actually liked Hope at the beginning but his story with Snow never really panned out in a meaningful way. The story just wasn't that interesting, the combat was very boring to me, the final boss could one hit kill you, the battle winning tune was changed from every other Final Fantasy, and putting that all together led to a very dull and frustrating experience.

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