I have yet to see any real gameplay footage or anything of that sort. What do you guys think about it? worth getting the collectors edition or not worth getting at all? 
 
Thanks.

Bump. :D

The beta from what I heard was broken as hell. 

@NekuSakuraba:  
 
As a general rule, I never really recommend MMO's to people. What do you like and what do you hate about MMO's?

I would recommend you view some of these threads in the FF14 forum here.
 
Personally I was hyped for the game but it's a train wreck.  You'd have to be willing to overlook a lot of problems to enjoy the game...

" Personally I was hyped for the game but it's a train wreck.  You'd have to be willing to overlook a lot of problems to enjoy the game... "

@Kuraform

@NekuSakuraba:  
 
As a general rule, I never really recommend MMO's to people. What do you like and what do you hate about MMO's?

I hate the time it takes to level up and waiting for endgame for the game to become good.

" @Kuraform

@NekuSakuraba:  
 
As a general rule, I never really recommend MMO's to people. What do you like and what do you hate about MMO's?

I hate the time it takes to level up and waiting for endgame for the game to become good. "

" @NekuSakuraba said:

" @Kuraform

@NekuSakuraba:  
 
As a general rule, I never really recommend MMO's to people. What do you like and what do you hate about MMO's?

I hate the time it takes to level up and waiting for endgame for the game to become good. "

I'd recommend Guild Wars 2. "

" @NekuSakuraba said:

" @Kuraform

@NekuSakuraba:  
 
As a general rule, I never really recommend MMO's to people. What do you like and what do you hate about MMO's?

I hate the time it takes to level up and waiting for endgame for the game to become good. "

I'd recommend Guild Wars 2. "

The main problem for me is the high system requirements.

" The main problem for me is the high system requirements. "

" @Bucketdeth said:

" The main problem for me is the high system requirements. "

Other than that? "

@NekuSakuraba said:

" @Bucketdeth said:

" The main problem for me is the high system requirements. "

Other than that? "

Well the whole layout of menus and accessing things are made a lot harder then they should be and the game feels very Japanese and that can be either good or bad but in this case I mean it as the whole game feels like it was made for an asian audience as they tend to not care about ease of use just like with Lineage 2 which is a totally different came but in the same aspect it caters to an asian audience (Korea) more then a western audience. 
 
But in saying that I will be picking up the game at some point, probably just going to get it on the PS3.

@Kuraform

@NekuSakuraba:  
 
As a general rule, I never really recommend MMO's to people. What do you like and what do you hate about MMO's?

I hate the time it takes to level up and waiting for endgame for the game to become good.

I enjoy it, but it sounds like MMOs simply aren't for you.  If you're in a rush to get to the end-game and think that is where the 'game gets good' then you're doing it wrong, to use a tired meme.  Half the enjoyment in MMOs is the journey, it's the travel and seeing the world and the social aspects as you approach the level cap.  In WoW, the BEST part by far was levelling, I typically got tired of raiding and endgame content very very quickly. 
 
As far as the game itself, it is gorgeous with probably the best environments seen in an MMO, and competitive with many non-MMO games (first game since Aion I've said that for).  It has some really unique game mechanics that make it different from other MMOs out there, with a lot of different stuff to do (crafting and harvesting are their own entire classes).   You can freely switch classes, and in fact you are gimping yourself if you only play one job from start to finish.  There's also a very interesting story that probably tops the borderline nonexistant story (looking at you EVE) in many other mmos.
 
That said, if you're the type that wants to rush as one class to end game content, this isn't for you.  XIV rewards stopping to smell the roses and enjoying the journey to the endgame, nobody can really say what the endgame is like yet, because nobody is there.  But that isn't what MMO play is about, really.  

Again, I REALLY want to like this game. But the system requirements and nasty bugs are a turn-off. 
So I'll wait for the PS3 version. 
 
Also, Guild Wars 2 looks delicious.

" @WinterSnowblind said:

" @NekuSakuraba said:

" @Kuraform

@NekuSakuraba:  
 
As a general rule, I never really recommend MMO's to people. What do you like and what do you hate about MMO's?

I hate the time it takes to level up and waiting for endgame for the game to become good. "

I'd recommend Guild Wars 2. "

You have played it? O___O "

" @NekuSakuraba said:

" @WinterSnowblind said:

" @NekuSakuraba said:

" @Kuraform

@NekuSakuraba:  
 
As a general rule, I never really recommend MMO's to people. What do you like and what do you hate about MMO's?

I hate the time it takes to level up and waiting for endgame for the game to become good. "

I'd recommend Guild Wars 2. "

You have played it? O___O "

A lot of people have, it's been playable at Game / Comic conventions going on the past few months. I wasn't trying to bash FF or anything, just that GW2 seems to be taking strides away from the typical MMO structure, especially in regards to leveling and grinding.  Seems to be the sort of thing you're looking for. "

My thoughts on the beta: 
 
Lots of grinding, after the starting quest and the 4 or 5 levequest that take like 10 mintues each you pretty much have to grind to get to the next area. I was able to redo the levequest but I had to run all the way back to the city and then back to the crystal that starts the quest, why couldnt I just start the damn quest from the crystal without going back to the city? 
 
Combat was incredibly slow, which I thought was fine in ff11 but theres no auto attack. The class I played (archer) had me manually shooting every arrow along with my special attacks, but the interface was so laggy I would press my attack button and have him attack 2 seconds later. Was probably just laggy beta servers but it left a bad impression. 
 
Taxing on my computer. I have a pretty good rig and even I was chugging along in some spots of the city. 
 
Great music and art style though, I think pretty much if you enjoyed ff11 you would enjoy this, square isn't trying to market this to anybody other than its fan base really

Overall I like the game :D 
A few points of frustration: too few mobs, sloooow crafting, you can only do 8 quests in a 24 hr period (which is better than a 48 hr period.)
Things I like: It's a beautiful game, easy macro system to change classes and skills, original storyline quests, feels and looks fresh, market system to sell your goods.
Things I would like to see in the future: Housing system, more payment options from SE, click on chatbox  to /tell or /blacklist (as of now you have to type in both their first and last names.)

" you can only do 8 quests in a 24 hr period (which is better than a 48 hr period.) "

Things I like: ... market system to sell your goods.

It's a decent game but I felt the leveling could be done a bit better it seems to just kinda dump you after the initial tutorial quests and 4 levequests. The bazaar system is bizarre, spend 15 minutes hoping you find someone selling what you want just seems like a simple auction house system would be easier to implement and easier to use for all.

The bigget problem I had with the game was crafting and while I liked the idea of giving you the mats and letting you skill up without grinding materials beyond questing I thought the crafting was a joke. There didn't appear to be a way to see what you could make (like a recipe book) an crafting itself takes an age.

I played a bit if FFXI and enjoyed it but I got FFXIV thinking that the great parts of XI would have been built upon and the game itself would advance to improve upon the flaws but I've since unistalled XIV because it simply seems to have stagnated and in parts got worse which is a shame because it looks great and I personally really wanted this game to succeed.

Just like the RTS genre, the MMO is now ruled by Blizzard and it will never let go. Just give up all hope, that's what I did years ago.

" @DoctorWelch: There's plenty of good other MMOs out there, and TONS of promising ones coming out on the horizon.  WoW is by all means the most popular, but there's tons of other successful MMOs that cater to other niches.   "

" @NekuSakuraba: if you DONT enjoy an MMO before hitting the level cap might aswell not play one. "

I can tell you FFXI was fucked up and this game shares most of the game design.

How "grindy" is XIV? I heard in FF XI it was impossible to lvl by yourself, and really hard to find a group, and fights took a LONG time.  
 
If there a lot of quests? How is the exp reward for those quests? Are there lots of Solo quests? Group quests? Any instances of any kind?
 
Is that just the FF MMO deal? Or is XIV different from XI?

It's not terrible, but I'm not in love with the slow combat. Running into some nasty bugs as well.
 
Just another notch in WoW's belt when all is said and done.