Name Something to Change

#1 Posted by Pierce (81 posts) -

In response to the new information about Final Fantasy XIII-2, I have decided Final Fantasy needs to change. Post one thing you want to see change for the next Final Fantasy game (not necessarily XIII-2).

Here's mine: no monster hunting

#2 Posted by Video_Game_King (34573 posts) -

You're saying that as if it doesn't change from title to title.

#3 Posted by mandude (2667 posts) -

Fixed camera angles!

#4 Posted by Hailinel (22676 posts) -

@Pierce said:

In response to the new information about Final Fantasy XIII-2, I have decided Final Fantasy needs to change. Post one thing you want to see change for the next Final Fantasy game (not necessarily XIII-2).

Here's mine: no monster hunting

Final Fantasy already changes with every new game. I can assure you fairly well that Final Fantasy XV, whatever form it takes, will be vastly different form FFXIII and FFXIII-2.

#5 Edited by dankempster (2227 posts) -

...cloud360?

EDIT: In the interest of making this post actually count for something, I'll point out that there are loads of threads on this topic already on the forums. I'd recommend posting in one of those instead of starting yet another thread on the same topic. There's a forum search function for a reason - use it.

#6 Posted by nintendoeats (5975 posts) -

Less androgynous/annoying characters. I don't intend that as flame-baiting, I actually quite liked XIII but that was really in spite of certain obnoxious tweens.

#7 Posted by Nekroskop (2786 posts) -

Less teenagers with impossibly huge swords and father/emotional issues.

#8 Posted by Animasta (14458 posts) -

@ahaisthisourchance said:

Less teenagers with impossibly huge swords and father/emotional issues.

hope had mother issues, so it's already changed!

#9 Posted by AltonBrown (923 posts) -

Red Mages. The whole cast should be made up of Red Mages.

#10 Posted by crazyleaves (629 posts) -
@nintendoeats

Less androgynous/annoying characters. I don't intend that as flame-baiting, I actually quite liked XIII but that was really in spite of certain obnoxious tweens.

Exactly what I was thinking. That game was pretty sharp in a lot of ways. It's when you have the teenage stuff that gets on my nerves, maybe it's cultural or something. I know that it's always been that way in FF but maybe they could just take out the tweeny stuff and the fake future sports.
#11 Posted by Hailinel (22676 posts) -

@crazyleaves said:

@nintendoeats

Less androgynous/annoying characters. I don't intend that as flame-baiting, I actually quite liked XIII but that was really in spite of certain obnoxious tweens.

Exactly what I was thinking. That game was pretty sharp in a lot of ways. It's when you have the teenage stuff that gets on my nerves, maybe it's cultural or something. I know that it's always been that way in FF but maybe they could just take out the tweeny stuff and the fake future sports.

The games are targeted at the teen demographic. That's why the majority of the games feature characters in their teens/early twenties.

#12 Posted by Nottle (1912 posts) -

@Animasta said:

@ahaisthisourchance said:

Less teenagers with impossibly huge swords and father/emotional issues.

hope had mother issues, so it's already changed!

Also the last time a teenager had a impossibly huge sword in a final fantasy game was 14 years ago. Ok maybe Vann could get some pretty big ones, but you have so many different weapons it 12 that doesn't matter.

And how many characters actually have parent issues? Probably very few. Balthier, Hope, Sephiroth, Relm? That seems to be just a trope of entertainments more than anything.

I feel like when people talk about these games they have only played FF7, then FF8, they think those 2 brooding main characters represent the entire series and then fail to recognize the tonal, locational, and mechanical differences between each game.

#13 Posted by JackSukeru (5815 posts) -

@AltonBrown said:

Red Mages. The whole cast should be made up of Red Mages.

YES! Also, the villain is a Blue Mage.

#14 Posted by nintendoeats (5975 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@crazyleaves said:

@nintendoeats

Less androgynous/annoying characters. I don't intend that as flame-baiting, I actually quite liked XIII but that was really in spite of certain obnoxious tweens.

Exactly what I was thinking. That game was pretty sharp in a lot of ways. It's when you have the teenage stuff that gets on my nerves, maybe it's cultural or something. I know that it's always been that way in FF but maybe they could just take out the tweeny stuff and the fake future sports.

The games are targeted at the teen demographic. That's why the majority of the games feature characters in their teens/early twenties.

I'm only 21 and I've always found the modern FF aesthetic impossible to take seriously (and I mean that in a "man wearing poop for a hat" kind of way, not a Saints Row III kind of way), even when I was part of said demographic.

#15 Posted by crazyleaves (629 posts) -
@Hailinel

@crazyleaves said:

@nintendoeats

Less androgynous/annoying characters. I don't intend that as flame-baiting, I actually quite liked XIII but that was really in spite of certain obnoxious tweens.

Exactly what I was thinking. That game was pretty sharp in a lot of ways. It's when you have the teenage stuff that gets on my nerves, maybe it's cultural or something. I know that it's always been that way in FF but maybe they could just take out the tweeny stuff and the fake future sports.

The games are targeted at the teen demographic. That's why the majority of the games feature characters in their teens/early twenties.

I'm pretty sure I knew that. The topic is about something to change right? I want an adult focused FF game is that ok?
#16 Posted by Hailinel (22676 posts) -

@crazyleaves said:

@Hailinel

@crazyleaves said:

@nintendoeats

Less androgynous/annoying characters. I don't intend that as flame-baiting, I actually quite liked XIII but that was really in spite of certain obnoxious tweens.

Exactly what I was thinking. That game was pretty sharp in a lot of ways. It's when you have the teenage stuff that gets on my nerves, maybe it's cultural or something. I know that it's always been that way in FF but maybe they could just take out the tweeny stuff and the fake future sports.

The games are targeted at the teen demographic. That's why the majority of the games feature characters in their teens/early twenties.

I'm pretty sure I knew that. The topic is about something to change right? I want an adult focused FF game is that ok?

The majority of the player characters in FFXIII are adults.

#17 Posted by JasonR86 (9365 posts) -

Character Archetypes. No more reluctant heroes, no more shy, girly but strong-willed women, no more Sarah Conner women, etc.

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#18 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -

What if the people were Chocobos and the Chocobos rode people.

#19 Posted by Ravenlight (8033 posts) -

More swords that are also some other type of weapon.

"Yes, I've played a JRPG at least once in the past 20 years, please skip this tutorial bullshit"-mode.

#20 Posted by ImHungry (376 posts) -

Change going off of 13? Because every new title introduces pretty big changes from the last game. However,

@LordXavierBritish said:

What if the people were Chocobos and the Chocobos rode people.

This sounds ok.

#21 Posted by I_smell (3926 posts) -

Get rid of all the annoying whiney anime characters that don't act like real people at all and talk fantasy-gibberish.
 
Instead have characters that people will actually like. I think Versus-13 is set in a neo-tokyo future city, so maybe that'll mix things up.

#22 Posted by Arker101 (1474 posts) -

@I_smell said:

Instead have characters that people will actually like.

This, and make the battle system similar to Chrono Trigger.

#23 Posted by WMWA (1159 posts) -

They always do significant changes each iteration but one thing I would like back is the full item customization. Armor, headgear, Accessories. Etc. And make it all visible now, Not just the weapon changes. Just my two cents.

#24 Posted by crazyleaves (629 posts) -
@Hailinel

@crazyleaves said:

@Hailinel

@crazyleaves said:

@nintendoeats

Less androgynous/annoying characters. I don't intend that as flame-baiting, I actually quite liked XIII but that was really in spite of certain obnoxious tweens.

Exactly what I was thinking. That game was pretty sharp in a lot of ways. It's when you have the teenage stuff that gets on my nerves, maybe it's cultural or something. I know that it's always been that way in FF but maybe they could just take out the tweeny stuff and the fake future sports.

The games are targeted at the teen demographic. That's why the majority of the games feature characters in their teens/early twenties.

I'm pretty sure I knew that. The topic is about something to change right? I want an adult focused FF game is that ok?

The majority of the player characters in FFXIII are adults.

Thanks for the update. I will say again that FFXIII was pretty rad. They should drop the kids.
#25 Posted by Animasta (14458 posts) -

@Arker101 said:

@I_smell said:

Instead have characters that people will actually like.

This, and make the battle system similar to Chrono Trigger.

chrono trigger battle system is boring, sorry

#26 Posted by Hailinel (22676 posts) -
@crazyleaves
@Hailinel

@crazyleaves said:

@Hailinel

@crazyleaves said:

@nintendoeats

Less androgynous/annoying characters. I don't intend that as flame-baiting, I actually quite liked XIII but that was really in spite of certain obnoxious tweens.

Exactly what I was thinking. That game was pretty sharp in a lot of ways. It's when you have the teenage stuff that gets on my nerves, maybe it's cultural or something. I know that it's always been that way in FF but maybe they could just take out the tweeny stuff and the fake future sports.

The games are targeted at the teen demographic. That's why the majority of the games feature characters in their teens/early twenties.

I'm pretty sure I knew that. The topic is about something to change right? I want an adult focused FF game is that ok?

The majority of the player characters in FFXIII are adults.

Thanks for the update. I will say again that FFXIII was pretty rad. They should drop the kids.
Nope.avi
#27 Posted by Arker101 (1474 posts) -

@Animasta said:

@Arker101 said:

@I_smell said:

Instead have characters that people will actually like.

This, and make the battle system similar to Chrono Trigger.

chrono trigger battle system is boring, sorry

What kind of Battle system would you use? I am not the hugest J-RPG fan, but Chrono Triggers take on the classic turn based formula was always neat to me.

#28 Posted by Animasta (14458 posts) -

@Arker101 said:

@Animasta said:

@Arker101 said:

@I_smell said:

Instead have characters that people will actually like.

This, and make the battle system similar to Chrono Trigger.

chrono trigger battle system is boring, sorry

What kind of Battle system would you use? I am not the hugest J-RPG fan, but Chrono Triggers take on the classic turn based formula was always neat to me.

they've been innovating for a while, and hell, if you really need your turn based needs met, there is always persona and SMT. If I could have them do anything I would want something more like X-2, because it was pretty complicated while also being easy to learn.

#29 Posted by Arker101 (1474 posts) -

@Animasta: I liked the endurance run, but otherwise, I can't stand the Persona series(I really only know about #4). I just am not a fan of the "Being in school and socializing" aspect of it. No Idea what SMT is. I am extremely ignorant of some J-RPG games. X-2s system is all right.

#30 Posted by LaszloKovacs (1133 posts) -

Completely tear down and rebuild the combat system again. FFXII and XIII introduced some interesting ideas, but ultimately it's a system that I hate having to use.

Taking control away from the player, and making the friendly AI deliberately bad in order to force the player to unlock better routines? Honestly, who thought that was a good, fun design choice?

#31 Posted by Adamsons (877 posts) -

Just re add the overworld with airships, for the love of God.

#32 Posted by Animasta (14458 posts) -

@Arker101 said:

@Animasta: I liked the endurance run, but otherwise, I can't stand the Persona series(I really only know about #4). I just am not a fan of the "Being in school and socializing" aspect of it. No Idea what SMT is. I am extremely ignorant of some J-RPG games. X-2s system is all right.

Shin Megami Tensei? the series persona spawned off from? (and the only ones who have the being in school system is 3 and 4, the others don't)

#33 Posted by I_smell (3926 posts) -
@Animasta: @Arker101: I liked everything about the fighting in FF12. It was still kind-of like all the other Final Fantasy games, but it didn't feel like 3 guys standing in a row picking options in boxes, it felt more free than that.
Obv I hated all the people, but I've talked a load about that.

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