#1 Posted by Starfishhunter9 (369 posts) -

I have been thinking about BioShock infinites ending. I feel the themes of predestination (booker, Anna and comstock triad) and the idea of infinite multi verses conflict. If every reality exists then yes there would be infinite universes with the same 3 playing their roles. But there would also be infinite universes where they don't. Ultimately trying to change anything is pointless since their are infinate numbers of universes in which every possiblity occurs so you are not changing anything, as in another universe you did not. Anything but changing your own experienced reality doesn't matter.

#2 Posted by BeachThunder (11722 posts) -

Well, they presumably severed all realities where Columbia exists.

#3 Posted by Winternet (8008 posts) -

@starfishhunter9: Elizabeth is God-like by the end, so the drowning sequence is not to be taken as a literal event, but more of a symbolic event that changed the variable "accept/refuse baptism" to the constant "refuse baptism".

#4 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

@starfishhunter9: Elizabeth is God-like by the end, so the drowning sequence is not to be taken as a literal event, but more of a symbolic event that changed the variable "accept/refuse baptism" to the constant "refuse baptism".

The thing after the credits helps agree with that idea.

#5 Posted by rebgav (1429 posts) -

I have been thinking about BioShock infinites ending. I feel the themes of predestination (booker, Anna and comstock triad) and the idea of infinite multi verses conflict. If every reality exists then yes there would be infinite universes with the same 3 playing their roles. But there would also be infinite universes where they don't. Ultimately trying to change anything is pointless since their are infinate numbers of universes in which every possiblity occurs so you are not changing anything, as in another universe you did not. Anything but changing your own experienced reality doesn't matter.

Your conclusion ignores the structure of the game universe as outlined by Elizabeth ("There's always a...") and doesn't account for Elizabeth's powers as displayed in the game (creating tears being a form of wish fulfillment, the suggestion that Elizabeth may be creating new dimensions with the desired variables rather than "finding" them) nor the scope of her abilities at the end of the game (Elizabeth clearly states that she's capable of "seeing" every extant dimension, has opened gateways to each as represented by the lighthouses.)

#6 Posted by KarlPilkington (2689 posts) -
#7 Edited by EXTomar (4523 posts) -

I never believed a theme of Bioshock Infinite is predestination. Predestination is used as a background element to drive Booker into action otherwise why wouldn't Booker and Elizabeth just take a rift to "anywhere but here"?

#8 Posted by Starfishhunter9 (369 posts) -

@rebgav: Sorry for the late reply. In game Elizabeth seems unable to control the dimensions she opens, but rather can only sense whether certain events have or have not occurred (see the gunmaker as an example). Also if Booker dies prior to fathering Elizabeth she would never have existed and you run into another paradox, unless you see Elizabeth as a god like creature. It is interesting that the magnitude of leaving entire realities behind and where the Booker and Elizabeth of the realities the pair go into are found, since all the other major characters are present in their roles you would expect them to be there also...