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#1 Posted by plague102 (128 posts) -

So sometime ago on the Bombcast a supposed listener wrote in about working in South Africa on a lion reserver where a lioness had just given birth to two new cubs. He went on to say that his names for the cubs were picked... Gerstmann and Davis. Why am I bringing this up, well today I was listening to the new IGN Gamescoop podcast (episode 220) when Daemon Hatfield (host and reviewer for IGN) read the EXACT same email this time though the lion cubs were being named Daemon and MIller. This email takes place at 43:55 min into the podcast. Maybe I'm remembering wrong but can a more talented user possibly grab the two clips of the emails and post them to help expose this!!

#2 Posted by wealllikepie (756 posts) -

dayum well thats a shame, BOO AT FALSE EMAILS >=(

#3 Posted by ThePaleKing (613 posts) -

The truth is out there. 

#4 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

Well...that is odd...

#5 Posted by DeShawn2ks (1052 posts) -
@plague102: Man I was listening to that today and I thought maybe I was having a case of the deja vu's or something because I could of swore I heard that before somewhere.
#6 Posted by Rattle618 (1463 posts) -

Fudge.

#7 Posted by KarlPilkington (2685 posts) -

EXPOSED

#8 Edited by ProfessorEss (7281 posts) -

I'm actually kind of happy to hear that it is fake. It's much more comforting than the thought that someone would actually name two lion cubs Gerstmann and Davis. 
 
...not that they aren't perfectly cromulent lion cub names.

#9 Posted by Gooddoggy (409 posts) -

Doubly great since they speculated on the Bombcast that it was a fake email.

#10 Posted by Jeffsekai (7026 posts) -

FRAUD

#11 Posted by Green_Incarnate (1788 posts) -

FUCK. Now I am sad.

#12 Posted by Branthog (7342 posts) -

My trust in gaming "journalists" has been shattered. Oh no! :P

#13 Posted by gakon (1945 posts) -

It could be a copycat killer writer, but it's more fun to think that someone ever came up with this weird way to troll in the first place.

#14 Posted by PeasantAbuse (5138 posts) -

That's a pretty weird thing to be lying about.

#15 Posted by VilhelmNielsen (1734 posts) -

Man, this is why we need The Real Messageboard and Real Email (Reamail), moderated by Dave. This fraud would've been impossible!

#16 Posted by Spoonman671 (4562 posts) -
@DeShawn2ks said:
@plague102: Man I was listening to that today and I thought maybe I was having a case of the deja vu's or something because I could of swore I heard that before somewhere.
Same here.
#17 Posted by AndrewB (7500 posts) -

Wait a minute... I'm starting to think there wasn't even four lion cubs born at all. Or a lioness.

#18 Posted by Sign (291 posts) -

I don't remember the full specifics of the email, but what would be the purpose of lying about this? I guess I just don't see an endgame.

#19 Posted by Romination (2776 posts) -

@ProfessorEss said:

I'm actually kind of happy to hear that it is fake. It's much more comforting than the thought that someone would actually name two lion cubs Gerstmann and Davis. ...not that they aren't perfectly cromulent lion cub names.

The problem is, what if the lion cubs weren't cromulent?!

#20 Posted by ProfessorEss (7281 posts) -
@gakon said:

It could be a copycat killer writer, but it's more fun to think that someone ever came up with this weird way to troll in the first place.

Serial Emailer X!?!
#21 Posted by endaround (2138 posts) -

The emails are deep viral marketing for the re-release and bluray of The Lion King

#22 Posted by DystopiaX (5293 posts) -

Isn't it some zoo? couldn't someone just go there and check it out?

#23 Posted by Jimbo (9775 posts) -

This could easily just be a coincidence. You guys are so cynical.

#24 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

@DystopiaX said:

Isn't it some zoo? couldn't someone just go there and check it out?

I think it was in South Africa.

@Jimbo said:

This could easily just be a coincidence. You guys are so cynical.

my thoughts.

#25 Posted by nohthink (1223 posts) -

It could be different lions having different cubs -_- I mean... Lions can be sexually very active

#26 Posted by Gerhabio (1977 posts) -

Yeah, well, it's probably for the best.

#27 Posted by DystopiaX (5293 posts) -

@Dany said:

@DystopiaX said:

Isn't it some zoo? couldn't someone just go there and check it out?

I think it was in South Africa.

@Jimbo said:

This could easily just be a coincidence. You guys are so cynical.

my thoughts.

I'm sure someone on this site is in South Africa...right?

#28 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -

I am outraged.

#29 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

@DystopiaX said:

@Dany said:

@DystopiaX said:

Isn't it some zoo? couldn't someone just go there and check it out?

I think it was in South Africa.

@Jimbo said:

This could easily just be a coincidence. You guys are so cynical.

my thoughts.

I'm sure someone on this site is in South Africa...right?

I don't think it is worth that much to get 'to the bottom of'

#30 Posted by PixelPrinny (1030 posts) -

I guess you could say someone was caught lion.

/thatpundoesn'tevenmakesensebutjustgowithit

#31 Posted by Apathylad (3066 posts) -

My faith in humanity is lost...

#32 Posted by Dagbiker (6939 posts) -

@Sign said:

I don't remember the full specifics of the email, but what would be the purpose of lying about this? I guess I just don't see an endgame.

to get your email read by the coolest dudes in the biz. the end game: do it some more.

#33 Posted by ZimboDK (848 posts) -
@PixelPrinny said:

I guess you could say someone was caught lion.

/thatpundoesn'tevenmakesensebutjustgowithit


#34 Posted by Dagbiker (6939 posts) -

@Dany said:

@DystopiaX said:

@Dany said:

@DystopiaX said:

Isn't it some zoo? couldn't someone just go there and check it out?

I think it was in South Africa.

@Jimbo said:

This could easily just be a coincidence. You guys are so cynical.

my thoughts.

I'm sure someone on this site is in South Africa...right?

I don't think it is worth that much to get 'to the bottom of'

what your saying now, dany, sounds very suspicious.

#35 Posted by Slaker117 (4835 posts) -

Well that sucks.

#36 Edited by subsalicylate (41 posts) -

Haha. I just sent an email to the Bombcast about this. Here it is:

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Subject: The Lions Cub That Were Named After Jeff and Ryan May Be Bogus!

Hey Bomberinos,

On the August 30th episode of the Bombcast, a listener wrote in saying that he worked at a wildlife refuge in Africa where two newborn lions cubs had been named Davis and Gerstmann. The email starts at about the 124 minute mark.

The listener said that, when cubs are born, everyone at the refuge submits potential names and then votes on them. He submitted Davis and Gerstmann and was surprised and overjoyed when his submission was chosen. It was a really cool story.

On Episode 220 of the IGN podcast "Game Scoop!" (posted Friday, October 7), a listener wrote in with a virtually identical story in which the cubs were instead named Daemon and Miller after the "Game Scoop!" hosts. The reading of the email starts at 42 minutes, 30 seconds, and the story about the cubs starts at the 44 minute mark.

In both stories:

-- the listener's name was J.D.

-- the listener is a graduate student in zoology at Miami University

-- the procedure for choosing the names is the same

-- a hand is visible in the picture of the cubs

-- the hand is rubbing one of the cubs

-- the listener says which cub has which name

-- the name of the wildlife refuge is the same (Drakenstein Lion Park)

-- the refuge is in South Africa

-- exactly two cubs are born (65% of lion litters have size not equal to 2)

-- the email is long (Ryan summarized it on the Bombcast, but stated that it was long)

I went to the Drakenstein Lion Park website. It has a page (Our Lions) listing the lions at the park. None are named Davis, Gerstmann, Daemon, or Miller. By the way, people can apparently donate to adopt lions, and there is an online gift store.

I don't want to call the listener a liar. Maybe the IGN cubs are not the Giantbomb cubs. Maybe the park website has not been updated recently. But the evidence is the evidence.

I suspect that the email is a scam aimed at attracting donations or that J.D. wanted to be mentioned by another gaming podcast.

The whole thing is ironic because Jeff even jokes that the email is a "Nigerian prince" scam sent out to thousands of people.

PS. You guys rock!

-----------------------------

EDIT: I checked the website for the zoology department at Miami University and there doesn't seem to be any graduate student there named J.D.

#37 Posted by slantedwindows (272 posts) -

you see, the real problem here is that you listen to the ign podcast.

#38 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -
@Apathylad said:

My faith in humanity is lost...

Faith... Humanity... Lost... Man, it's like Dark Souls.
#39 Edited by Xcessive (109 posts) -

The ULTIMATE troll at work? What if the first email (To the GB crew) was in fact genuine and a beautiful story of a mans struggle to name his hand raised lion cubs.

Then gods gift to Trolls comes along and copies the email word for word and sends it into GameScoop because he thinks Daemon Hatfield is a douche (heh hem). Then he gets off to this forum because the has a trolling fetish.

Sherlocked Holmes that shit.

#40 Posted by MattyFTM (14347 posts) -

That sucks. A pair of lion cubs named Gerstmann and Davis would be awesome.

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#41 Posted by ShaggE (6336 posts) -

There's only one way to counteract the newly created emptiness that now resides in our hearts. Someone here has to have two kids and name them Gerstmann and Davis.

Who's going to man up and take one for the team?

#42 Posted by DeF (4808 posts) -

maybe there were just 4 lion babies and the guy loves both podcasts? ..... ah damn old me, always looking for the good in people...

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#43 Posted by Simplexity (1382 posts) -

What a random thing to be lying about.

#44 Posted by 1p (760 posts) -

Ooooohhhh my god, i just heard that on Game Scoop and proceeded to look for a thread here. Super weird.

#45 Posted by ZombiePie (5587 posts) -

@PixelPrinny said:

I guess you could say someone was caught lion.

/thatpundoesn'tevenmakesensebutjustgowithit

A hungry lioness sees two men in front of her. One is typing away on his typewriter and the other is reading a magazine. The lioness bolts for the one reading and eats him immediately and walks away. Even those on top of the food chain know that readers digest and writers cramp.

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#46 Posted by coakroach (2488 posts) -

what.....what?.....What?!.......WHAT!?!?

#47 Posted by Captain_Felafel (1552 posts) -

That sucks. SUCKS! And here I was super excited at the prospect of, in a few years, a lion named Gerstmann mauling someone. >:(

#48 Posted by Rotnac (618 posts) -

wow, good find! I wonder if there are any other popular podcasts that got an email about the lions.

#49 Posted by Bouke (1401 posts) -

This happens all the time, sure usually it doesn´t involve lion cubs, but plenty of people sent the same e-mail to multiple gamesites/podcasts. I listen to multiple podcasts myself and its funny to hear someone being called out for it!

#50 Posted by hidys (1029 posts) -

@subsalicylate: I hope this gets read.