So, Twilight

What does Left 4 Dead being the most popular game on the site have to do with criticizing Twilight? It doesn't even relate in the least way. Nearly everyone here always agreed on their feelings on Twilight though, and ranting here isn't changing anything.

I saw a trailer for twilight when i went to see quantum of solace - i felt kinda sorry for the poor thing, 

They're incomparable.

Left 4 Dead isnt supposed to have a story....its not a single player story driven game. You make that out to be a criticizm to Left4Dead, but its exactly what they were aiming for. The writing on the walls of the safe houses, and design of the survivors and special infected are there so the player can say for themselves what they think happened. Valves story game is half life. Left4Dead is in the same pool as TF2 in terms of needing a story, its a multiplayer game, not a single player one, and its built on that, not built on having a story.

So that critcizm has absolutely no standing what so ever. That's like saying you want a story for why in any multiplayer game, the two sides happen to be fighting on that specific map....it makes no sense what so ever. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and as you've seen, the majority of people here and everywhere else see Twilight as a terrible movie only teenage girls will be into,just like the books, which isn't saying much because that means absolutely nothing. If you like it, that's fine, but this is still a pointless thread, especially going as far to compare it with a game that isn't supposed to be a story driven one to begin with. No ones opinion is stopping you from liking the books or the movie if you do, that's all I'm saying...but once more, that comparison is completely invalid in every sense, and has no standing at all.

Why do I hate Twilight? Because I heard the term  " Fanpire" the other day.... wtf.

"Left 4 Dead isnt supposed to have a story....its not a single player story driven game. You make that out to be a criticizm to Left4Dead, but its exactly what they were aiming for. The writing on the walls of the safe houses, and design of the survivors and special infected are there so the player can say for themselves what they think happened. Valves story game is half life. Left4Dead is in the same pool as TF2 in terms of needing a story, its a multiplayer game, not a single player one, and its built on that, not built on having a story.

So that critcizm has absolutely no standing what so ever. That's like saying you want a story for why in any multiplayer game, the two sides happen to be fighting on that specific map....it makes no sense what so ever. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and as you've seen, the majority of people here and everywhere else see Twilight as a terrible movie only teenage girls will be into,just like the books, which isn't saying much because that means absolutely nothing. If you like it, that's fine, but this is still a pointless thread, especially going as far to compare it with a game that isn't supposed to be a story driven one to begin with. No ones opinion is stopping you from liking the books or the movie if you do, that's all I'm saying...but once more, that comparison is completely invalid in every sense, and has no standing at all."

True fact :- twilight has enterained exactly, 13.7 people in its lifetime

The argument Paul is making doesn't make the bit of sense.  Listen to pause422^

Who cares if L4D doesn't have a story?  Do you care if Tetris has a story?  It is the same thing.  They are not meant to be single-player driven affairs a la BioShock or something like that.  They are multiplayer focused games like Counter Strike, another Valve creation. I don't know much about Twilight, and I don't care to, but if people are criticizing it if it has a bad story (which I don't know if it does or not; I am guessing it is at the very least OK if millions of teenage girls are gushing over it), then it matters because Twilight is:  1) a romantic movie that needs a cogent story 2)an adaptation of a BOOK, which obviously has a story.

So, bringing video games into arguments about movies and books is not relevant at all.  Games and movies and books are very different, and though there are the few games that cross over the story gap (BioShock, Indigo Prophecy, maybe Portal and Half-Life 2), games don't a story to propel the quality. It is more about the gameplay and everything else.

It's most definitely a girl book, but no more adolescent and contrived then something like Final Fantasy, or Gears of War. It doesn't really bug me, but I thought I'd point out it's a bit hypocritical to criticize the story of this book when one of the most popular games on the site right now is Left4Dead. "

"OmegaPirate said:

"pause422 said:

"Left 4 Dead isnt supposed to have a story....its not a single player story driven game. You make that out to be a criticizm to Left4Dead, but its exactly what they were aiming for. The writing on the walls of the safe houses, and design of the survivors and special infected are there so the player can say for themselves what they think happened. Valves story game is half life. Left4Dead is in the same pool as TF2 in terms of needing a story, its a multiplayer game, not a single player one, and its built on that, not built on having a story.

So that critcizm has absolutely no standing what so ever. That's like saying you want a story for why in any multiplayer game, the two sides happen to be fighting on that specific map....it makes no sense what so ever. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and as you've seen, the majority of people here and everywhere else see Twilight as a terrible movie only teenage girls will be into,just like the books, which isn't saying much because that means absolutely nothing. If you like it, that's fine, but this is still a pointless thread, especially going as far to compare it with a game that isn't supposed to be a story driven one to begin with. No ones opinion is stopping you from liking the books or the movie if you do, that's all I'm saying...but once more, that comparison is completely invalid in every sense, and has no standing at all."

Doot forget the mormon housewife!"

I never said I liked the author. When you do stuff like that, it just looks like you've skimmed what he and I have said, and just wanted to add some conjecture. "

It entertains those who actually enjoy that I guess, yes, but when you see a movie, its completely different than playing a video game. A video game can be fun with no story what so ever, and movie, unless something else is redeeming it, like absolutely amazing action scenes or something, which I'm very sure Twilight doesn't have, what's left other than a decent story, or climax to something? There isn't much. I'm done posting here now, and I'm anot arguing or disagreeing with you that you can be 'entertained' by the movie, just obviously your thread here is lashing out at the masses that aren't going to be, and find it bad, and you shouldn't honestly care. That and the way Twilight and L4D are incomparable, as far as story.

I also didn't hear anything about only abstinent teenage girls reading twilight, regardless of whether they are or not, teenage girls liking something in no way makes it valid or good. I mean, look at all the pop soft rock bands these days calling themselves 'punk', that really only teenage girls like. Its not saying a lot, hell, its not saying anything.

They're still incomparable. There really is no discussion here.

Yeah, stop trying to make your argument here, they are 3 completely different forms of media. It's like your trying to compare the quality of a bike to the quality of a car, "B-But the car has 2 more wheels, and they are both used for transportation", yes but they are two completely different forms of transportation.

"I'm not ranting, just pointing some stuff out. You don't have to get all antsy pants, it's no big deal. Anyways, Left4Dead has almost no story. Twilight was criticized for having a poor story. "

"OmegaPirate said:

"Paul said:

"OmegaPirate said:

"pause422 said:

"Left 4 Dead isnt supposed to have a story....its not a single player story driven game. You make that out to be a criticizm to Left4Dead, but its exactly what they were aiming for. The writing on the walls of the safe houses, and design of the survivors and special infected are there so the player can say for themselves what they think happened. Valves story game is half life. Left4Dead is in the same pool as TF2 in terms of needing a story, its a multiplayer game, not a single player one, and its built on that, not built on having a story.

So that critcizm has absolutely no standing what so ever. That's like saying you want a story for why in any multiplayer game, the two sides happen to be fighting on that specific map....it makes no sense what so ever. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and as you've seen, the majority of people here and everywhere else see Twilight as a terrible movie only teenage girls will be into,just like the books, which isn't saying much because that means absolutely nothing. If you like it, that's fine, but this is still a pointless thread, especially going as far to compare it with a game that isn't supposed to be a story driven one to begin with. No ones opinion is stopping you from liking the books or the movie if you do, that's all I'm saying...but once more, that comparison is completely invalid in every sense, and has no standing at all."

Doot forget the mormon housewife!"

I never said I liked the author. When you do stuff like that, it just looks like you've skimmed what he and I have said, and just wanted to add some conjecture. "

So what if i did?"

It's immature and doesn't add anything. I'm not angry about it, but I just don't understand why. "

"Don't freak out, man. It's no big deal. I'm not lashing out at anyone, just pointing something out. Twilight and Left4Dead are comparable. You can compare almost anything, even apples & oranges (apples are tastier). Oh, it'd be ridiculous to say one is better then the other, but you can still look at them side by side. "

I cannot speak for the books, which I have not read, but I can say that Twilight the film was godawful. Just...godawful.

Twilight has nothing in common with Left 4 Dead, per se.

"Twilight has nothing in common with Left 4 Dead, per se."

Also, really, vampires, so contrived, if you really were into fantasy novels you'd know that's one of the most contrived and over used romance devices in existence, and proof that twilight is like Harry Potter, that is all.

Encylopedia Dramatica has this to say about Twilight... uh.. 5? 4? One of the books. Anyways, I trust them over you. ANd this does not sound like a good book. It sounds like the ramblings of an escaped mental institution patient.

Bella gets knocked up after the wedding with Edward's death-defying sperm (sperm that's been living for 90 years in a dead and fluid-less body) and gives birth to a demon spawn that tries to kill her from the inside out, drinking her uterus blood and breaking her ribs, spine, and pelvis. Insert Meyer's anti-abortion diatribe here. To save her life Eddy gives Bella a cesarean section with his teeth-- no, I'm not making this shit up. This was also Edward's first time having sex even though HE IS OLD AS TIME ITSELF and TEH HAWTEST THING IN THE UNIVERSE!

"Encylopedia Dramatica has this to say about Twilight... uh.. 5? 4? One of the books. Anyways, I trust them over you. ANd this does not sound like a good book. It sounds like the ramblings of an escaped mental institution patient.

Bella gets knocked up after the wedding with Edward's death-defying sperm (sperm that's been living for 90 years in a dead and fluid-less body) and gives birth to a demon spawn that tries to kill her from the inside out, drinking her uterus blood and breaking her ribs, spine, and pelvis. Insert Meyer's anti-abortion diatribe here. To save her life Eddy gives Bella a cesarean section with his teeth-- no, I'm not making this shit up. This was also Edward's first time having sex even though HE IS OLD AS TIME ITSELF and TEH HAWTEST THING IN THE UNIVERSE!

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