The Goggles bet. Do you agree with the result?

Okay, So in case you haven't heard, the goggles bet has been settled and Ryan won. Do you guys agree with this? Personally, I think that Ryan got off on a technicality. When he and Vinny first made the bet, he explicitly said that he didn't think Sam Fisher would have access to ANY technology because the game was going in such a different direction from the rest of the series. At the end of the day it was all in good fun, and if Vinny's okay with it (which he seems to be) then it's fine, I just wanted to get some opinions from everyone else.
 
EDIT: Apologies for the initially broken-ass English. I'm pretty tired.

" Okay, So in case you haven't heard, the goggles bet has been settled and Ryan won. Do you guys agree with this? Personally, I think that Ryan was got off on a technicallity. When him and Vinny first made the bet, he explicitly said that he didn't think that Sam Fisher would have access to ANY technology because the game was going in such a different direction from the rest of the series. At the end of the day it was all in good fun, and if Vinny's okay with it (which he seems to be) then it's fine, I just wanted to get some opinions from everyone else. "

Can someone run down exactly what the bet was about? I don't exactly remember.

" @Elazul said:

" Okay, So in case you haven't heard, the goggles bet has been settled and Ryan won. Do you guys agree with this? Personally, I think that Ryan was got off on a technicallity. When him and Vinny first made the bet, he explicitly said that he didn't think that Sam Fisher would have access to ANY technology because the game was going in such a different direction from the rest of the series. At the end of the day it was all in good fun, and if Vinny's okay with it (which he seems to be) then it's fine, I just wanted to get some opinions from everyone else. "

They pretty clearly stated that it had to be night vision goggles specifically. "

" Can someone run down exactly what the bet was about? I don't exactly remember. "

" @Elazul said:

" Okay, So in case you haven't heard, the goggles bet has been settled and Ryan won. Do you guys agree with this? Personally, I think that Ryan was got off on a technicallity. When him and Vinny first made the bet, he explicitly said that he didn't think that Sam Fisher would have access to ANY technology because the game was going in such a different direction from the rest of the series. At the end of the day it was all in good fun, and if Vinny's okay with it (which he seems to be) then it's fine, I just wanted to get some opinions from everyone else. "

They pretty clearly stated that it had to be night vision goggles specifically. "

" @Asurastrike said:

" @Elazul said:

" Okay, So in case you haven't heard, the goggles bet has been settled and Ryan won. Do you guys agree with this? Personally, I think that Ryan was got off on a technicallity. When him and Vinny first made the bet, he explicitly said that he didn't think that Sam Fisher would have access to ANY technology because the game was going in such a different direction from the rest of the series. At the end of the day it was all in good fun, and if Vinny's okay with it (which he seems to be) then it's fine, I just wanted to get some opinions from everyone else. "

They pretty clearly stated that it had to be night vision goggles specifically. "

Exactly. There's no "technicality" about his victory, listen to ANY episode where they discuss the bet and they specifically talk about night vision goggles, not just any technology. When Ryan said he didn't think Fisher would have access to any technology he was defending his stance that he would not have night vision goggles, he was not placing a bet that there would be no advanced technology in the game. They even went over the possibility of them being sonar goggles and it was established that they wold not count. Ryan's victory was fair. "

" @Asurastrike said:

" @Elazul said:

" Okay, So in case you haven't heard, the goggles bet has been settled and Ryan won. Do you guys agree with this? Personally, I think that Ryan was got off on a technicallity. When him and Vinny first made the bet, he explicitly said that he didn't think that Sam Fisher would have access to ANY technology because the game was going in such a different direction from the rest of the series. At the end of the day it was all in good fun, and if Vinny's okay with it (which he seems to be) then it's fine, I just wanted to get some opinions from everyone else. "

They pretty clearly stated that it had to be night vision goggles specifically. "

Exactly. There's no "technicality" about his victory, listen to ANY episode where they discuss the bet and they specifically talk about night vision goggles, not just any technology. When Ryan said he didn't think Fisher would have access to any technology he was defending his stance that he would not have night vision goggles, he was not placing a bet that there would be no advanced technology in the game. They even went over the possibility of them being sonar goggles and it was established that they wold not count. Ryan's victory was fair. "

" @ArchV1le said:

" @Asurastrike said:

" @Elazul said:

" Okay, So in case you haven't heard, the goggles bet has been settled and Ryan won. Do you guys agree with this? Personally, I think that Ryan was got off on a technicallity. When him and Vinny first made the bet, he explicitly said that he didn't think that Sam Fisher would have access to ANY technology because the game was going in such a different direction from the rest of the series. At the end of the day it was all in good fun, and if Vinny's okay with it (which he seems to be) then it's fine, I just wanted to get some opinions from everyone else. "

They pretty clearly stated that it had to be night vision goggles specifically. "

Exactly. There's no "technicality" about his victory, listen to ANY episode where they discuss the bet and they specifically talk about night vision goggles, not just any technology. When Ryan said he didn't think Fisher would have access to any technology he was defending his stance that he would not have night vision goggles, he was not placing a bet that there would be no advanced technology in the game. They even went over the possibility of them being sonar goggles and it was established that they wold not count. Ryan's victory was fair. "

Yeah I remember the episode when they started laying out some specific guidelines. I remember it seeming too specific and unfair to Vinny. But whatever, if Vinny agreed to it than it's a fair bet. Besides everyone seems fine with the result so all is well. Bets are just good fun.  I'm really looking forward to those QOTW videos though to see what Ryan does with the fifty bones. "

Yeah it was a fair bet and the end result was Vinny Lost. What Ryan said about sticking the money up your ass and then using it in gamestop, was awesome.

" Yeah it was a fair bet and the end result was Vinny Lost. What Ryan said about sticking the money up your ass and then using it in gamestop, was awesome. "

Ive forgotten already but i think its Vinny`s ass.

" Ive forgotten already but i think its Vinny`s ass. "

" @wwfundertaker said:

" Ive forgotten already but i think its Vinny`s ass. "

OH GOD!!! Just for future reference, no one should ever try either of the things Ryan suggested. Particularly the "going to Gamestop" part.  Anyway, it seems that the overwhelming majority of you guys agree that Ryan deserved to win, which is totally fair enough. To be honest Vinny really should have negotiated better terms when they were laying the rules down. I'm almost 100% sure that Ryan still would've gone for the bet if it was on whether or not Sam uses ANY kind of goggles in the game. So I guess what I'm saying is that they were BOTH wrong, and as a result should have to give fifty bucks each to Brad for having such fly 'burns. "

" @Elazul said:

" @wwfundertaker said:

" Ive forgotten already but i think its Vinny`s ass. "

OH GOD!!! Just for future reference, no one should ever try either of the things Ryan suggested. Particularly the "going to Gamestop" part.  Anyway, it seems that the overwhelming majority of you guys agree that Ryan deserved to win, which is totally fair enough. To be honest Vinny really should have negotiated better terms when they were laying the rules down. I'm almost 100% sure that Ryan still would've gone for the bet if it was on whether or not Sam uses ANY kind of goggles in the game. So I guess what I'm saying is that they were BOTH wrong, and as a result should have to give fifty bucks each to Brad for having such fly 'burns. "

Brad's fly burns should win all bets. "

Ryan won fair and square but I think Vinny shouldn't have agreed to all the stipulations.  The spirit of the original bet seemed to be about the game going in such a different direction that Sam would be stripped of virtually all his advanced tech and even the iconic 3 light night vision goggles would be gone.  The tech behind the new sonar goggles is different but they look identical to his old goggles, so Sam does keep his iconic look, which seemed like the main reason Vinny thought they would be in the game.

Hmm, they started out talking about visual gadgets like NVGs in general. Ryan was of the impression that Sam Fisher would only use low tech stuff like broken mirror's etc. But when it came to the bet they reduced it specifically to NVGs. It seemed to me that Ryan got cold feet there and raised his chances a little bit there when it came to setting up the conditions. 
 
Technically Vinny lost but for me Sonar and NVG makes next to no difference for me considering how the bet started out (high tech vs low tech).

They actually stated that Sonar goggles don't count towards the bet. I cant tell which bombcast (I think it was an event podcast)

Definitely.  It's been made wholly clear throughout the months since the bet was placed that it was over whether or not Sam Fisher would come equipped with night-vision goggles in this latest release in the franchise.  And, guess what?  No goggles!  Not of the night-vision sort anyhow.  There's no reason NOT to agree with how this little wager turned out.

In what Bombcast was the bet first made? Anyone?