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#1 Posted by ch3burashka (5009 posts) -

Or, better phrased, why is the Bombcast the only podcast I know of that allows you to download everything they've ever recorded? The only other one that did that was the Hotspot, but they killed that feed months ago and now we're left with a few of the older casts and the new Gameplay podcast. All other podcasts default to caching(?) 50 or 100 podcasts at the most, and let the older ones lapse. I always thought it was a money issue, so that people couldn't eat up bandwidth by downloading, deleting and redownloading old podcasts, but in that case, why did a start-up like GB do it and old industry vets like IGN and Joystiq don't? The non-gaming podcasts also usually let older episodes lapse, and it's frustrating to have to manually download old podcasts. Then again, I probably should find a better use of my time, but that's a whole matter entirely.

tl:dr Why is GB the only podcast to allow you to download their oldest recordings, and others don't? What's your opinion on this?

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#3 Posted by august (3827 posts) -

I dunno but it's awesome.

#4 Posted by Labman (287 posts) -

Shhhh...don't say anything about it! They might hear you and decide to change it, just to troll us.

#5 Edited by FLStyle (4577 posts) -

I wasn't aware that the bombcast was that big of a drain on resources. Do all the bombcasts combined take up that much bandwidth compared to every Quick Look combined or all Endurance Run episodes?

#6 Posted by Sbaitso (499 posts) -

I dunno, but they better never stop, because I still like to listen to them sometimes.

#7 Posted by DonutFever (3550 posts) -

For the betterment of future generations.

#8 Posted by Alexander (1721 posts) -

Plenty of podcasts out there go back to the start, sometimes there is a feed change a newcomer would need to know about but it's not uncommon. Hopefully they all stick around.

#9 Posted by Rafaelfc (1313 posts) -

because this "living in the now" mentality is terrible, there is a shit ton of awesome stuff to be heard in the old podcasts

#10 Posted by Neurotic (632 posts) -

Tested do it too and I've seen other podcasts that do it. What would be the point of a language learning podcast if you couldn't get them all from episode 1? As for Bombcasts, I think it's good that they're there. I've now listened to all of them from late 2008 on because of it. However, I do think that the older ones lose some relevance since they're talking about games that are 3-4 years old and the 'News' section is actually history (although you could argue that about the 2011 ones, having just listened to one where they discuss the 'NGP'). Anyway, I don't think I'll be finishing my trawl through the back catalogue. But if they can afford to keep them there, why not?

#11 Posted by Azteck (7449 posts) -

They're not huge, as someone said, QL's must take a hell of a lot more space for them to keep.

#12 Posted by procrasturbate (277 posts) -

It's the Bomb yo!

#13 Posted by mlarrabee (2885 posts) -

I love it.

Several times I've had to reformat and reinstall my OS, and rather than copy over forty gigs of podcasts I trusted I would be able redownload them only to discover they archive only the last twenty weeks.

There are old podcasts I've listened to a dozen times over.

#14 Posted by Ben_H (3310 posts) -

It's great that they do that. There's some comedic gold on the old episodes. It's always fun to listen to the old Arrow Pointing Down casts and remember how far things have come.

#15 Posted by Scrawnto (2434 posts) -

I can't think of any that I listen to that cull old podcasts, but the Giant Bombcast, MBMBAM, and the Mega64 Cast, are the only ones I listen to that have all that many episodes. I'm highly in favor of being able to go back to classic episodes. I probably re-listen to podcasts more than I re-watch television shows or movies, actually.

#16 Posted by liako21 (519 posts) -

virtual dirt!

#17 Posted by Sackmanjones (4652 posts) -

Because some people like to listen to old podcasts. Also because giant bomb is the shit

#18 Posted by AuthenticM (3698 posts) -

I did not know that some websites deleted old podcasts after a while. That's fucked, if you asked me. I seriously doubt that they take up that much hard drive space compared to other stuff, and much bandwidth either.

#19 Posted by SJSchmidt93 (4884 posts) -

I can't think of any podcasts that don't allow you to download their entire bkaclog.

#20 Posted by MrSlapHappy (178 posts) -

I get the feeling (also Ryan has stated that he saves everything) that if you were to spend up to 3 hours a week talking about something and then another hour or more editing and uploading it to a database, that you would probably want to hang on to it for awhile. Also, they maintain an ever growing video games database, so it kind of comes with the territory.

#21 Posted by Dagbiker (6939 posts) -

80mb(random bombcast) x 311 = 24880mb = 24.29gig

232mb(random ql) x 6433 = 1492456mb = 1457.47gig ( i did not account for the HD, the LOW, or the MOBLE )

#22 Posted by NegativeCero (2976 posts) -

Who knows? I'm never going to go back an listen to them, but someone will so that should be enough. Even if they do start cutting off the older stuff from the feed, someone will have that somewhere and probably post them somewhere.

#23 Posted by Branthog (7342 posts) -

Plenty podcasts provide their entire backlog. As to why many do not? Most likely, because they have limited storage space or bandwidth and need to conserve both, for financial reasons.

#24 Edited by Peanut (953 posts) -

It probably has a lot to do with actual usage also. Are there really that many people going back and listening to old IGN and Joystiq podcasts? I doubt it. Most of those podcasts are worthless outside of the time period they were released in, with some exceptions. On the other hand I listen to old episodes of the Bombcast a ton and old episodes of all the classic 1up podcasts like GFW and Retronauts and MBMBaM, which are all timeless (Bombcast and GFW to a lesser extent, but they go on tangents enough to not feel entirely topical) and all of those are available to be downloaded.

#25 Posted by Stonyman65 (2591 posts) -

It's not that big of a deal. As said above, EVERY podcast to date is only about 25GB - they could be doing podcasts for the next 10 years and it wouldn't be over 100GB probably. Hell, my fap folder is bigger than that!

#26 Posted by Aetheldod (3511 posts) -

Welll what kind of database would GB be if they didnt stored their own created stuff? Remember GB is not only about current videogames and shitz .... IT ALWAYS BEEN A VIDEOGAME RELATED DATABASE/WIKI

#27 Edited by Fredchuckdave (5339 posts) -

ESPN's Baseball Today podcast had a great guy named Peter Pascarelli on it, basically a grumpy old man that moaned about everything; hilarious dude. Then they fired him for insulting Bud Selig and made him record an apology and proceeded to delete all of the old podcasts. Now it's terrible by comparison as the co-host was always shit and they brought in standard ESPN douchebags instead; alas.

#28 Posted by yoshimitz707 (2450 posts) -
@SJSchmidt93

I can't think of any podcasts that don't allow you to download their entire bkaclog.

Same. I listen to about 25 podcasts and all of them have their full backlogs available.
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#29 Posted by wefwefasdf (6729 posts) -

I hope they never make the old podcasts unavailable. They saved my sanity when travelling overseas this summer.

#30 Posted by Vigorousjammer (2480 posts) -

Like others have said, it's not a huge drain on resources...

Hell, somebody could download the entire bombcast collection, and It would probably still take up less space then the archive for that 24 hour Halo stream.

#31 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4330 posts) -

@august said:

I dunno but it's awesome.

#32 Posted by falling_fast (2186 posts) -

I love to listen to those old episodes.

#33 Posted by Grillbar (1796 posts) -

i think its awesome since i often listen to the bombcast while playing games, so i often did deep in to the early podcasts.

also the cut some of the podcasts allready some of the arrow pointing down.

but there is one thing i want them to do.

take all the 8-4 play and other podcasts and remove them from the bombcast list and put them in to there respective list where they belong.

also the same with video's like the endurance run. i want sub folders for eatch run so its not as big of a clusterfuck then it is right now.

like

main folder:

subscriber content

sub folder:

TNT, spooking with scoops, Rpg, jar, breaking brad, wmha, BLLL, flight club and so on

and maybe also in the case of BLLL there would be

2012, 2011.

and with ER there would be

Persona, dp brad and ryan, dp vinny and jeff, chrono trigger and so on

okay now im getting off track but still.

#34 Posted by Cloudenvy (5891 posts) -

Wait, some podcasts don't provide their entire backlog? That's crazy.

Always be old podcasting.

#35 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@CH3BURASHKA said:

Or, better phrased, why is the Bombcast the only podcast I know of that allows you to download everything they've ever recorded? The only other one that did that was the Hotspot, but they killed that feed months ago and now we're left with a few of the older casts and the new Gameplay podcast. All other podcasts default to caching(?) 50 or 100 podcasts at the most, and let the older ones lapse. I always thought it was a money issue, so that people couldn't eat up bandwidth by downloading, deleting and redownloading old podcasts, but in that case, why did a start-up like GB do it and old industry vets like IGN and Joystiq don't? The non-gaming podcasts also usually let older episodes lapse, and it's frustrating to have to manually download old podcasts. Then again, I probably should find a better use of my time, but that's a whole matter entirely.

tl:dr Why is GB the only podcast to allow you to download their oldest recordings, and others don't? What's your opinion on this?

No offense but you must not listen to many podcasts I have tons of podcasts in my RSS feed that have every episode they ever did available to me. As for why... because I dunno people like to listen. People like to catch up on old casts. I didn't actively start using the site until like mid 2010 so I went back and caught up on a lot of the early 2009 podcasts and it was great.

#36 Posted by Damian (1538 posts) -

Podcasts: 315

Time: 27 days 15 hours

Size: 18GB

#37 Posted by sickVisionz (1268 posts) -

I think it's great. I got into podcast around 2008 and just jumped in where they were. Once I got accustomed to and became a fan of certain personalities, I enjoyed digging back through old shows I'd never heard of to find them so I like that GB offers this, even though I personally won't use it for this site since I was listening to the bombcast since it began.

#38 Posted by GrantHeaslip (1523 posts) -

Almost every podcast (besides the This American Lifes of the world who charge for their archives) keeps their old files around. The issue is that many don't keep them in the XML file your podcast app is hitting to get a list of episodes. These two concepts have been conflated by many in this thread.

Since RSS feeds (which, to my knowledge, podcast feeds basically are) are hit so much, it's standard practice to cut them off at a certain point. In the case of a podcast, it's less important since the items being listed have a couple sentences of description, but if you're the New York Times, you can't just have every article in a feed included in the file, because it would be gigabytes in size. A lot of podcast directories (iTunes included, I think) have their own episode list cache, so even if the podcast's official feed doesn't list everything, you'll see everything they've ever parsed.

#39 Posted by crazylittle (18 posts) -

Total "wish list" material but it would be nice if they had a separate stream for "recent podcasts" and one for the archive.

#40 Posted by ThePickle (4153 posts) -

So future generations can study what President Jeff Gerstmann was like in his video game reviewing days.

#41 Posted by GERALTITUDE (2918 posts) -

@Rafaelfc said:

because this "living in the now" mentality is terrible, there is a shit ton of awesome stuff to be heard in the old podcasts

This, a million times over. In fact you could just cut the statement off after "terrible" and apply it to everything

#42 Posted by SomeJerk (3142 posts) -

As we're approaching new consoles, who wouldn't love to go back a little and listen to 2005-2006 talks about the 360, PS3 and Wii? Bless 'em for doing it!

#43 Posted by medacris (643 posts) -

Because the old ones can still be funny, and it's fun as someone who's a relative newbie to go archive binging.

#44 Posted by DoctorWelch (2774 posts) -

Probably because they're awesome and they care about the users. I've searched everywhere for those old Game Theory podcasts and cant find a single one. It's super sad :(

#45 Posted by HubrisRanger (476 posts) -

Every year, around GotY time, I actually go back and listen to ALL of the past GotY deliberation Podcasts again to get myself psyched for this years knock down drag out fight. (Though the first two years are still the best.) I have a slightly similar obsession with listening to old E3 podcasts. So yeah. Count me as someone who's grateful they're still there.

#46 Posted by Deckard42 (125 posts) -

As someone who's been working their way through the old episodes to when I started listening in '09, I hope they never do.

#47 Posted by Benny (1947 posts) -
#48 Posted by adam1808 (1372 posts) -

Posterity

#49 Posted by RelentlessKnight (963 posts) -

who fucking cares, i love old podcasts

#50 Posted by Marokai (2805 posts) -

I don't understand at all why keeping an archive of all podcasts would be undesirable.