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Posted by ComradeKhan

So Jeff didn't like it... That means I probably will like it. 
 
Jeff's taste in video games is getting scary, both his likes and his dislikes are becoming questionable.

Posted by Catolf

Look at that I go away and this place explodes again. lol

Posted by nick_verissimo

Duders, stop looking at what a game scores and start reading what the reviews.  These are all opinions from different people, so take them as they are; opinions.  Who cares what IGN gave it?
Posted by Vorbis

I found it was Katherine who was the psycho and not Catherine, when you reject someone they tend to go crazy.

Anyway I'm enjoying it a lot and I'm kind of glad GB isn't big enough to impact the games sales with its review, we need more games willing to try something new and less rehashed Call of Duty/clones.

Known for a long time I do not share the same taste in games as Jeff so I am not really surprised, just disappointed it was not Kessler who got to review it.

Posted by Bernoulli

This game is basura, first time I've rage quit a game since I was a child.

Posted by MosesWalker

I played it and liked it alot. I don't think you should play this game on Easy. I'm not sure or the varying degrees of difficulty in each modebut I finished Catherine on Normal and thought the pzzles were quite challenging and fun as well as the story. Sorry, you didn't like it , Jeff but I definitely don't regret my purchase. It's one of my favorite puzzles games I've ever played.
Posted by Winternet

@zerdune said:

@Winternet said:

400 comments for a single review! Can anyone fill me in on what the hell happened here?

8.8 happened.

Man, those were the days.

Edited by darkjester74

Whoa, mega rage up in here. 
 
I read "this or that question" as "dis or dat question".  Which means this game would be way better if it had a Jack Attack. 
 
FWIW, I played the demo and it pretty much convinced me this game isnt for me.
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Posted by Zero_

Interesting series of events... I wonder if Jeff's history with Atlus might have affected his appreciation of the game for good or bad.

Posted by kyomagi
@mnzy:  
 
Sure do, nice downgrade.  
Posted by turbomonkey138

@mutha3 said:

@oysteinBrenne said:

WOW this review is fucking terrible sorry jeffs this is the worst review you have ever done


Here go watch a better Review

That review is fucking terrible. He's literally summarizing and giving us a story synopsis for 90% of it. At least link to a positive review that isn't terrible:http://www.1up.com/reviews/catherine-review

You are really dumb. Not sure if troll.

Posted by murse2008

I'm find it odd that some people are so obsessed with the staff of this site and their points of view on gaming (and non-gaming) matters. They are excellent and often hilarious game journalists, but they are not everything the site is about and neither are their reviews. The beauty of GiantBomb is that if you don't like Jeff's review of Catherine you can just go ahead and write your own one. You may even get it featured. I don't know of any other site that gives you that.

Posted by mnzy
@kyomagi said:
Oh hey jeff, hows your job at gamespot...  OOPS
Do you know why he isn't there anymore? Because it doesn't exactly help your argument.
Posted by kyomagi
@DiGiTaL_SiN:  
 
Well maybe he does like the genre?  I dont know, i mean taking away IGN and Destructoids review, you have 1up giving it 100/100.  Maybe the dude is butthurt that its not P5?   
 
Oh hey jeff, hows your job at gamespot... 
 
OOPS
Posted by Tesla

So, Jeff's review boils down to "Most of this game is block puzzles, I don't like the block puzzles."

Imagine a review for MLB The Show 11 that pans the game for spending most of your time hitting, catching, and throwing a small ball around. A valid point for those who don't like baseball, but should a review like that be taken seriously? When the reviewer is not feeling the very premise of the game, perhaps it is wise to choose a different person to review the game.

Posted by DiGiTaL_SiN

Hmm, after reading this review I decided to check out Metacritic. I'm confused about how GB is the ONLY website that gave this game a negative review so far. I trust Jeff's judgement but how come everyone else says otherwise. I'm gonna play it either way, but this is really strange...
 
I'M JACK FROST HO!

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@Khann said:

Oh Giantbomb community how you amuse me so.

Jim Sterling gives his honest opinion on Bastion that conflicts with most other reviewers opinions and gives it a low score as a result. GB community "HOLY SHIT JIM STERLING IS THE WORST MOTHER FUCKER IN THE WORLD AND DESTRUCTOID IS JUST AS BAD. I HOPE HE BURNS ETERNALLY"

Jeff does the exact same thing. GB community "That's OK Jeff. My opinion doesn't align with yours, but I understand people can have opinions that differ from mine.. oh and FUCK EVERYONE WHO SAYS ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS REVIEW AND MAY YOU BURN IN ETERNAL FLAMES"

You guys are just as fucking moronic as any other community, and it's laughable that you think you aren't.

The main problem with your argument is that Jim Sterling makes controversial reviews that don't allign with the majority almost all the time and does so with the sole purpose of getting hits. People dislike him because he posts controversial reviews again and again and again to generate heat. Jim does it on a constant basis, so yes some people got tired of his shtick.

But it's ok if you lack the capacity to understand the difference, jump to a conclusion and need to use insults to further your point. We understand.

@LiquidSwords said:

As a community who prides itself as being different, you guys can be the biggest babies this side of the internet.

Apart from a few people trying to lynch the review, it would seem that most people in the comments are actually quite reasonable to both sides of the argument on game's quality. (or mocking the hysteria from the few, thus seeming to multiply it, which by the way you are doing yourself too)

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@Winternet said:

400 comments for a single review! Can anyone fill me in on what the hell happened here?

Jeff: I didn't really like this game.

Comments: WTF JEFF MAKES ME SICK WHAT A FUCKING LOSER HOW CAN U NOW LIKE THIS GAME?

People can't handle opinions.

Posted by EnduranceFun

Great review by Jeff. I am kind of disappointed in the way the game's story seems to be interacted with, it seems a lot more like one of those anime games with how there's not really much to the actual game, just watching a story unfold. So meh, I'll probably pick it up second-hand if it goes cheap.

Posted by Tober

It's just opinion. Relax people. I liked the review, yet i'm still looking very much forward to the game.

Posted by Ventilaator

Jeff explains his obviously 2 star opinion about Catherine on the Bombcast - Sorry you don't like it bro
 
Jeff writes down his 2 star opinion and calls it a review - RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
The problem is either with giving scores or the word "review". One of them needs to go because people are idiots about them.

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@Winternet said:

400 comments for a single review! Can anyone fill me in on what the hell happened here?

8.8 happened.
Posted by EddyNZ

I was interested in this game after seeing a few of the story related videos but as soon as I saw the block puzzles I wasn't too keen. Maybe if each night was represented by a completely different puzzle I would give it a shot.

Also, crying about how many stars a game gets is for suckers. Read the review and ask yourself if the problems Jeff (or any other reviewer) had would bother you.

Posted by Winternet

400 comments for a single review! Can anyone fill me in on what the hell happened here?

Posted by ToxicFruit

I see alot of mixed reviews for this game, Guess being one of its kind it is really hard to settle on a score, Still good review.

Posted by Apollo87

This review score actually appeals to me in kind of a big way, I'm not the biggest puzzle fan and while I like playing puzzle games I'm very bad at them which apparently in this game would make it very frustrating, which is a damn shame since this looks like a good step forward in the gaming industry because of the story and the themes it goes into which is the main reason I want to try it out but just can't make up my mind, sure I liked the demo but I don't know if I'm ready for increasingly difficult puzzles for hours on end.

Posted by Ghostiet
@MattyFTM said:

@fiddlecub said:

You don't like this game, it's a'ight, but you don't like it.

This comment hasn't got the attention it deserves. Most people are too busy spouting their own nonsense to listen to the one comment that manages to say more than any other comment on this review, and does it so succinctly.

Still, fiddlecup forgot about the rest of the quote. "Guess what? BLAT BLAT"
Posted by NumbThumb
@Khann said:

Oh Giantbomb community how you amuse me so.

Jim Sterling gives his honest opinion on Bastion that conflicts with most other reviewers opinions and gives it a low score as a result. GB community "HOLY SHIT JIM STERLING IS THE WORST MOTHER FUCKER IN THE WORLD AND DESTRUCTOID IS JUST AS BAD. I HOPE HE BURNS ETERNALLY"

Jeff does the exact same thing. GB community "That's OK Jeff. My opinion doesn't align with yours, but I understand people can have opinions that differ from mine.. oh and FUCK EVERYONE WHO SAYS ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS REVIEW AND MAY YOU BURN IN ETERNAL FLAMES"

You guys are just as fucking moronic as any other community, and it's laughable that you think you aren't.

Bit of a false equivalent. Jim Sterling is widely known for giving off-kilter scores that appear to be for sake of being contrarian more than anything. Hell - other reviewers even call things like: A Jim Sterling 10 or A Sterling 4.  Sterling is a smart guy that goes out of his way to forge his own standard, that's fine. But you can also become a joke doing it, like Armond White of the New York Press. What's clear is that he doesn't take into account his readers interest, only his own - and that's a concession you make reading that site or not...nothing wrong with that.
 
I think Jeff, as much as I don't always agree, acknowledges that the majority of his readers are his barometer for scale. He's here to serve them and not to standout of the crowd so people pay attention. Obviously that creates a loyal fanbase. 
 
But it's also not hard to see why people would defend a low score for a niche game that most people don't give a damn about compared to a low score for a game that they all do.  I think there are better examples out there to make your point.
Posted by Addfwyn

It's a fine review, I love the game, but I know that my taste in games is not going to line up with some people. I've almost never had the same taste in games as Jeff, but that doesn't mean I think he's a horrible reviewer, just that our tastes are absolutely different. Tons of games he loved I thought were terrible, and games he disliked were some of my favorites. Different people will have different tastes, and being able to recognize a reviewer who has the same taste as you (for me, that's often Brad) is the key.

I'd still recommend the game for people who like the look and story (both are quite well done, though maybe they messed stuff up in the localization, which could speak for the review) or a faster paced puzzle game. If you are looking for Persona, then look elsewhere.

Posted by TanoPrime

I'm suprised he made it through the game.  The demo got old to me fast.

Posted by QKT

this is where people who would never rate any game 1 star unless it gouges their eyes out start complaining.

Posted by dbz1995

There is rage here. There is also logic. But mostly rage.

Posted by dropabombonit

Didn't expect Giant bomb to have the lowest review for this game that I read, I'm really enjoying what I have played of it so far and unlike Jeff like the puzzles and really enjoy the story

Edited by atomic_dumpling

One would think this is a simple case of "If you are into Anime, you might like this. If you are not, this is not a great experience." But one would underestimate the number of Otakus around here, thanks to AnimeVice (aka "All Tom all the time") being next door.

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I wish people explored their reasons for disagreement instead of making a mountain out of the completely pedestrian fact that disagreement happened.
Posted by Hagane

Fanboys looking at the score and ignoring the written review are always the best. 
He explains clearly what he likes and what he dislikes about the game, and as far as I can tell he has no factual errors. 
Reviews are not there for you to shut off your brain and blindly follow the reviewer's opinion, they're there to help you make up your own mind. If you decide that you still like a game, even after reading a negative review, then good for you. But that doesn't make this a bad review. 
In this case 2 stars just mean that you should only buy this if you really love this kind of game. Nothing wrong with that.

Posted by ChickenPants

Also, remember when comparing this review to others that most websites/publications work on the ridiculous 7-9 scale of scoring. Giant Bomb utilises the whole spectrum, and rightly so. This is why they are often seen as outliers. Read Game Informer's 7, it reads pretty similarly to GB's review.
 
 But ultimately, forget about the scores and read the godamn text!

Posted by Yummylee

Great read. The review was pretty good too.

Posted by sergeantz

After reading many of these comments, I can see that the internet remains the internet. You stay classy.

Posted by ChickenPants

Some people in here really need to reassess their priorities in life.
 
One guy didn't like a game you like. ONE GUY. Why the hell do you care so much?

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@fiddlecub said:

You don't like this game, it's a'ight, but you don't like it.

This comment hasn't got the attention it deserves. Most people are too busy spouting their own nonsense to listen to the one comment that manages to say more than any other comment on this review, and does it so succinctly.

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Posted by Flaboere
@BraveFart said:
@Flaboere said:
Perhaps some people got a little sexually aroused by the thought of this game, which is clearly the intention, and feel a strong need to defend their choice to buy it.  To be honest, in my head this game seems to be for the "pimpled-ponytailed-never-had-a-girlfriend-watch-way-to-much-anime(anime is for jerks!)-late-20's-kind-of-guy. But I may be wrong :-)
Or it could be that your just another asshole trying to look cool on others behalf.
Everything's possible i guess.
Posted by BraveFart
@Flaboere said:
Perhaps some people got a little sexually aroused by the thought of this game, which is clearly the intention, and feel a strong need to defend their choice to buy it.  To be honest, in my head this game seems to be for the "pimpled-ponytailed-never-had-a-girlfriend-watch-way-to-much-anime(anime is for jerks!)-late-20's-kind-of-guy. But I may be wrong :-)
Or it could be that your just another asshole trying to look cool on others behalf.
Posted by Flaboere

Perhaps some people got a little sexually aroused by the thought of this game, which is clearly the intention, and feel a strong need to defend their choice to buy it. 
 
To be honest, in my head this game seems to be for the "pimpled-ponytailed-never-had-a-girlfriend-watch-way-to-much-anime(anime is for jerks!)-late-20's-kind-of-guy. But I may be wrong :-)

Posted by mnzy
@Shaanyboi said:

@mantasradzas said:

I think Giant Bomb should get rid of review stars in their reviews. The only thing that I could gripe about in this review is the score. Everything else is well written and argumented. The score is the first thing anyone sees and it's what's being counted in Metacritic, it's what predisposes you before even reading what Jeff wrote. I don't even understand the 5 star system anymore. You're not supposed to compare the star scale of different reviewers, because, well, they are different. You are also not supposed to compare the score between different genres, etc, because it's all different. So what the FUCK is the 2 stars supposed to mean. What's the purpose of the 2 stars outta 5? It doesn't say anything about the game. Captain America got 3 stars from Kessler. Is it a better game? You can't compare... (Earth defence force got 2, so it's just as good?) But let's get to Jeff's scores: Duke Nukem Forever - 2 stars. So Duke Nukem is just as good as this game? Or maybe you can't compare the scores... Brink got 2 stars... GET RID OF THE STARS P.S. Just because Jeff hates the characters, doesn't mean the game is bad. Try it and find out for yourself.

Alex broke down the 5 star system just fine awhile ago..

5 stars - Whole-hearted recommendation

4 stars - Really great, but it has some problems

3 stars - Enjoyed it enough, but it isn't for everyone

2 stars - Misses the mark on alot of its goals that hindered the reviewer's enjoyment

1 star - No.

How much weight you put in any of that is your call. Don't get all pissed off that this is how they feel they can get to the point the fastest. A score isn't meant to tell you everything about the game, it's a reflection of how positively or negatively the reviewer feels about it in an instant.

It's explained in the FAQ right on the site.
 

While we don't believe any game is perfect, we recommend this game without reservation.

Still very good and easy to recommend, though it doesn't quite live up to its full potential.

The halfway point. An inherent appreciation of this game's specific gameplay style, characters, subject matter, and so on may play as big a role in your enjoyment as the actual quality of the game.

This game's problems outweigh its good qualities.

This game will make you wish you had died in a fire moments before turning it on.

Posted by Legend

Yeah, I knew Jeff was going to give it 2 stars.

Posted by rmanthorp

@LiquidSwords said:

^ Giant Bomb Community ^
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Wow, this is super harsh and weird, since after the Japanese demo QL he and Vinny sounded pumped for the game, while Brad and Ryan were skeptical. I knew something was amiss during the last Bombcast and kind of expected this, though.

Still, I don't care. I'll get it at a later time. I trust his opinions mostly, but Jeff is a guy who rejected Red Dead Redemption last year in a pretty childish way, a game that I have loved through and through, so I'm giving myself the benefit of completely disregarding whatever he wrote when it comes to games I am excited for.


Oh, and other people - chill the fuck out.

Posted by Devil240Z

@eloj said:

@Devil240Z said:

Snap! I think the majority of people who thought they would like Catherine will still like it. Jeff is in the minority here.

"Catherine" - The Sugar Pill of Games.

This is exactly the review I expected after seeing the first QL. A bad puzzle game, draped in irrelevant fluff.

Durr looks like my statement still stands.

Posted by eloj

@Devil240Z said:

Snap! I think the majority of people who thought they would like Catherine will still like it. Jeff is in the minority here.

"Catherine" - The Sugar Pill of Games.

This is exactly the review I expected after seeing the first QL. A bad puzzle game, draped in irrelevant fluff.