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Posted by Yummylee

Dayum that was fast O.O
Posted by Allprox

BOOM!!! Pay up Vinny!

Posted by Wes899

Nice. I'll have to check this. Also, no NV?! :(

Posted by Zamir

the upset of the year RYAN WINS RYAN WINS

Posted by kennybaese

This game looks really really rad, and I'm super bummed that it's not coming out on PS3. My roommate has an XBox... I need to get him to pick it up.  I wanna smash some heads through toilet seats.

Posted by Jacob816

Holy, fuck Ryan wins! Never would have thought that would happen.

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Posted by Meltac

Vinny lost :( and good review ^^

Posted by General_D23


Poor Vinny.

 
Nice to see the game being well received. Will probably pick it up in a few weeks.

Posted by takua108

I was surprised to see the NVG thing be in the first sentence. 
 
Damn, now I'm going to have to rent this.

Edited by Delta_Ass

It's a shame that you weren't able to wring much enjoyment from the previous entries, Jeff. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory is one of the best games ever made.

Posted by kingjulesxii

Will definitely pick up today. Nice review, Jeff.

Posted by CitizenKane

Should be getting this from GameFly tomorrow.  Can't wait!

Posted by ScottishGamer

I love how the first sentence just addresses the non existence of night vision goggles in the game. I mean what other game magazine or website would address that issue first!? 
 
No one and that sir is why Giant Bomb rules! 
 
P.S. Unlucky Vinny :(

Posted by Robiin
@takua108 said:
" I was surprised to see the NVG thing be in the first sentence.  Damn, now I'm going to have to rent this. "
That was what I thought.  First sentence, BAM.

Also; very good review!
Posted by MrDaravon

Can't believe Ryan was right!

Posted by Sjupp

No good replay values? Bummer.. Might think twice before I get this then.

Posted by NoXious

Aw too bad Vinny, nice call Ryan!

Posted by EisforExtinction

First line of the review. Haha, awesome.

Posted by Jimbo

Ryan may have won, but Vinny was right in my eyes.  I hope that is some comfort in this difficult time.

Posted by ZeroCast

Ryan WINS.
 
Exquisitely written review Sir Gerstmann.

Posted by Quacktastic

The goggles are still in the game.  They look exactly the same and make that same noise.  They are just 'sonar' now instead of night vision, because they wanted to copy Batman.  Vinny got robbed!

Posted by Wes

Awesome, was waiting for this review. Glad to see you liked it Jeff; I was hesitant to pick this up but now I just might.

Posted by chmod

Wow Ryan. Insane prediction. I mean, seriously, who expected him to win this bet when listening to that podcast.

Posted by PosableActionFigure
@Quacktastic said:
" The goggles are still in the game.  They look exactly the same and make that same noise.  They are just 'sonar' now instead of night vision, because they wanted to copy Batman.  Vinny got robbed! "
Hardly. They specifically established that the goggles must be night vision, and that the sonar goggles will not count even if they look identical.
Posted by bobthecannibal

Will have to pick this up on release. Ryan use the $50 to start researching sonar goggles.

Posted by StingingVelvet

I just don't agree with praising accessibility and "modernizing" personally.  Chaos Theory was an amazing game, it did not force trial and error gameplay, and throwing its awesome out the window to try and appeal more to Halo players just annoys me.
 
Am I not supposed to be annoyed?  I mean, that is how I feel.  I have been gaming for 25 years now and that whole time games have been getting more and more stupid and common, and for a while there that was nice but now it's just not the hobby I love anymore in many cases.  Reviews like this that praise these changes just baffle me.
 
Oh well, I know I am the minority.  I know games rival movies for mainstream dollars now and thus will get more and more streamlined and mainstreamed.  Luckily on the PC we have a ton of indie and small developer games to play, and all the classics still work with rare exception, so it's not all doom and gloom.

Posted by TadThuggish

Ohhhhh shiiiiiiiiit, I guess this game suuuuuuuuuucks!

Posted by MattBodega

I'm GLAD that Ryan won the bet. The whole idea about Splinter Cell having or not having Night Vision Goggles was a debate about the direction Ubisoft was taking the franchise: was the new Splinter Cell game going to jettison many of the aspect and gameplay elements of the previous game to cement it as a brand new direction for the series? Or was the game team, afraid of isolating long time fans and beholden to convention, unable to pull the trigger on removing "key elements" and thus keeping the game from becoming...well, modern. 
Vinny's bet was totally sensible, because it was banking that Ubisoft would not be able to totally commit to it's "new" take on the series. Ryan's bet that Ubisoft would make the harder, more difficult, less audience friendly choice....and, lo and behold, Ubisoft stepped up to the challenge.
 
...Oh, and the game sounds pretty fun, too.

Posted by LordAndrew

I like how Jeff tells us the most important part right up front.
No sale, sorry.

Posted by Crono
@StingingVelvet said:
" I just don't agree with praising accessibility and "modernizing" personally.  Chaos Theory was an amazing game, it did not force trial and error gameplay, and throwing its awesome out the window to try and appeal more to Halo players just annoys me.  Am I not supposed to be annoyed?  I mean, that is how I feel.  I have been gaming for 25 years now and that whole time games have been getting more and more stupid and common, and for a while there that was nice but now it's just not the hobby I love anymore in many cases.  Reviews like this that praise these changes just baffle me.  Oh well, I know I am the minority.  I know games rival movies for mainstream dollars now and thus will get more and more streamlined and mainstreamed.  Luckily on the PC we have a ton of indie and small developer games to play, and all the classics still work with rare exception, so it's not all doom and gloom. "
I agree with you on a lot of your points.  Jeff's review kind of makes me think that the game will be way too easy.  I will just have to wait until GameFly sends it my way to find out.
Posted by LethalKi11ler

Starting with the night-vision line made the review so much more appealing :P

Edited by Kowbrainz

Haha. Somehow I just knew the first sentence of this was going to state where the night vision goggles were at. I am not disappointed. :)

Posted by Carnage1290

I would totally agree with the Jason Bourne vibe this game gives off.  Dropping down from the ceiling to take out that required melee kill then pressing one button to have Sam drop two or more other soldiers is really badass and feels very Bourne with the way the camera moves and how fast everything is pulled off.

Posted by Echo

Vinny, pay the man.

Posted by Cynic04
@StingingVelvet: 
I know exactly what you're saying, tho I do appreciate the modern game.  If you haven't yet, you should check out some European PC games.  I recently played through Empire: Total War, Stalker: Call of Pripyat, and Kings Bounty: Armored Princess, and the main thing I noticed is that they all lack that dumbed down mass appeal quality you were talking about.  It seems like the PC market over there favors depth and challenge over polish and accessibility.
Posted by papercut

pay up Vinny!

Posted by HT101

Man, I did not expect this to come to pass this way.  I am totally blown away that there are no NVGs at all in the game.  It also does sound a little too easy but I will need to try it out first to see if that is true.  I also love how the NVG issue was settled at the very beginning.

Posted by Cynic04

Anyone notice the guy Sam Fischer is choking out on the cover art is wear night vision goggles, ironic?

Posted by Jazz

Other reviews have claimed that its only 5 hours at a quick run through... 
Fair enough most people take their time, but I couldn't care less about multiplayer. Paying 70euros (which is almost $96) for a 5-8 hour game, however great those 5-8 hours are..is just not kosher. Paying $60 or £39.99 isn't on either as far as i'm concerned.
Its about as Kosher as Christmas. 
Otherwise this game looks fantastic. 
Nice to see the long running feud has at last been solved.

Posted by ComradeCrash

Cool...I want this game but finals are coming and when those are done Alan Wake will be out. I might have to put this game on hold.

Posted by MarkWahlberg

And a chapter in GB history comes to a close.

Posted by Bayne

I wanna get this game. But have neither time nor money to play it. And then theres alan wake which is looking preety stong amongst other games. Well if this takes off i might get it but we shall see how the gaming populace takes to it.

Posted by wwfundertaker

Cant wait for the bombcast now.

Posted by masterpaperlink

waaa no night vision goggles???? What the hell is this

Posted by moelarrycurly

A fine review indeed.  Now we need a video showing Vinny handing Ryan the money.

Edited by chogi

NOBODY SHOULD WIN IF YOU ASK ME! I think Ryan's argument should be voided with sonar goggles as well since I think he was referring to Sam Fisher not relying on gadgets anymore when he made the bet. 
Full Disclosure: I was with Vinny this entire time with the googles. I'm saddened to see him lose considering that there were actual googles (that functions pretty much like night vision ones) WITH 3 LIGHTS ON IT!

Posted by Uberjannie

Isnt soon time to leave the Unreal 2 Engine behind and upgrade?
Its lacking for a current gen game when it comes to physics, lightning, animations.. you get my drift.
Im going to play it anyways, because it has coop ^^

Posted by twillfast
@chogi said:
" NOBODY SHOULD WIN IF YOU ASK ME! I think Ryan's argument should be voided with sonar goggles as well since I think he was referring to Sam Fisher not relying on gadgets anymore when he made the bet.  Full Disclosure: I was with Vinny this entire time with the googles. I'm saddened to see him lose considering that there were actual googles (that functions pretty much like night vision ones) WITH 3 LIGHTS ON IT! "
WORD!
I've been thinking just this everytime they were talking about it on the podcast. And also, the bet has been compromised.
Posted by AgentofChaos
@StingingVelvet said:
" I just don't agree with praising accessibility and "modernizing" personally.  Chaos Theory was an amazing game, it did not force trial and error gameplay, and throwing its awesome out the window to try and appeal more to Halo players just annoys me.  Am I not supposed to be annoyed?  I mean, that is how I feel.  I have been gaming for 25 years now and that whole time games have been getting more and more stupid and common, and for a while there that was nice but now it's just not the hobby I love anymore in many cases.  Reviews like this that praise these changes just baffle me.  Oh well, I know I am the minority.  I know games rival movies for mainstream dollars now and thus will get more and more streamlined and mainstreamed.  Luckily on the PC we have a ton of indie and small developer games to play, and all the classics still work with rare exception, so it's not all doom and gloom. "
I understand what you mean, but Chaos Theory's slow pacing gameplay doesn't really hold up in this generation. I tried to go back and play Double Agent but I just couldn't. Personally, this is what I always wanted to see out of a Splinter Cell game, I always felt that if Fisher was really this super badass military agent he wouldn't feel so clunky.
Posted by copycatzen
@chogi said:
"NOBODY SHOULD WIN IF YOU ASK ME! I think Ryan's argument should be voided with sonar goggles as well since I think he was referring to Sam Fisher not relying on gadgets anymore when he made the bet.  Full Disclosure: I was with Vinny this entire time with the googles. I'm saddened to see him lose considering that there were actual googles (that functions pretty much like night vision ones) WITH 3 LIGHTS ON IT! "

Vinny needs to read the small print in the contract!
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