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Posted by MormonWarrior

Huh. Seeing as I absolutely hated the controls and guns and basically everything in Bad Company, I'll skip this one.

Posted by ElectricEye

Love the Multiplayer, but the single player lacks the personality the guys had in BC1.
Posted by RYNO9881

Just finished this game and this review is exactly what I was thinking about while playing.

Posted by durden77

Good review, bad score. 
 
There's no reason why this game shouldn't have at least the same score as MW2. The both have lackluster campaigns, (with MW2 being only 4-5 hours long on top of that) and great multiplayer depending on what your into. If your into very tight deathmatches, go to MW2. If your into massive war-simulating battles, go with BC2. 
 
Either way, their faults are in the same areas. Either MW2 should've gotten a 4, or BC2 should've gotten a 5. This just doesn't seem right.

Posted by lockwoodx
@MAN_FLANNEL said:
" @Kamasama said:
" @MAN_FLANNEL said:
" I called it.  Great multiplayer + so-so single player - coop = 4 stars.   "
When was this? You said 5/5 in a comment on the MAG review. "
Wow, somebody has a good memory (I didn't even remember saying that at first).  Anyways, I voted 4 in a "what do you think Jeff will give it" thread after hearing the campaign wasn't too hot. That 5/5 comment came from me being surprised by Jeff giving MAG ( a game which he didn't seem to like all that much) a 4.  "
Shit.. it rolls down hill.
Posted by lockwoodx

Jeff  needs to shut his mouth before Shaft shows up. BF:BC2 is a sterling example of how to get a multiplayer right to the point nobody should give a flying rats ass about single player. 

Posted by posterguy

bad review if only I don't know what tickets are and other things are just unclear.
Posted by KillerKahuna

I thought the Story felt nice, not flat at all :S
 
The story was better compared to the first. I mean there was no gold this time but it was a good run and it pocked some fun with the shooter that has nothing better to offer a.k.a. Modern Warfare 2 :P

Posted by PhannIOUS

God... how long does it take to edit a video review? I don't have the time to read all this. And reading isn't like seeing.

Posted by Erkenbrand

Anyone else experiencing problems connecting to the EA servers?

Posted by handlas
@Valru said:
" @JEC03 said:
" I disagree with Jeff this still doesn't feel like a real bf game it feels much more like a cod game unfortunately im dissapointed with it :( but im still going to keep playing it ,if this was a real bf game it would  be.  1.PC only  2.no regenerating health. healthbars intstead. 3.jets 4.prone 5.64 players 6.slower pace not so fast and arcady. 7.Commanders I could go on and on i  really hope bf3 is the next real bf game bbc2 isnt even close.      "
I've been playing Battlefield competitively since 1942 and goddamn you are nitpicking  1)irrelevent since everyone knows bad company is more console focused,  but goddamn is the PC version superior 2)dated game design, RED = DIEING THERE IS YOUR HEALTHBAR3)bf3 4)badcompany is a faster pace so prone is useless, wait for bf3 5) 32 PLAYER BATTLEFIELD HAS ALWAYS BEEN SUPERIOR. 6) Battlefield is not slow paced, ARMA is slow paced 7) Commanders are a failed BF2 gimmick, 1942 didn't have any.  in summary stop being so fucking anal, all my buddies from the 1942 competitive scene absolutely love this.  1942 MADE THE SERIES, fuck off BF2 fanbois. "
well you are a ray of sunshine.  A lot of your points are completely stupid.
Posted by Gregomasta
@Sam3R said:
" did not relies how good CoD MW2 until I played this game I think ppl who made this should be more than happy for 4 stars... from me I think 3.5 at best... the whole engine that game is based at is rubbish... the controls are annoying.. dont know what is wrong with the original controls that are used all over fps games.. I think they are a mess...  play CoD insted, ooor.. just rent a typical hollywood movie... maybe some rambo movie.. coz that what the campaign felt like.multiplayer... stick with the demo... thats the most fun about the game.  better spend ur money on what ever makes u happy "
Your typing speaks for itself.
Posted by honeycut1

So it's worth picking up?  I picked up the first Bad Company and never played too much of it.  I guess I do need another game to add to the old pile of shame.

Posted by Camurai

I'm about halfway through the campaign and this review is spot on about it, MP is top notch though.

Posted by Greywilde

This game has single player?

Posted by Quacktastic

I love the crates in the campaign that let you change your weapon load-out whenever you want.  I want more games to act like games.  And the banter was easily my favorite part of the single player too.
 
Sarge v Hulk Hogan, Chopper Flynn, The Predator - I was stopping to let them talk pretty often and it was never not worth it.

Edited by Valkyr

MW2 had the worst single player campaign on a AAA game in a long time, it's just a shooting gallery with some nonsense cutscenes going on between levels, that you barely understand and even understanding what it's going on, the script is so corny and dull you would wish you didn't get it. Come on, BC 2 could just be a multiplayer only game and it would be 5 stars any day, so you lowered it to 4 because of the single player??, why didn't you do the same with MW2??, and the bombcast this week,  why the Infinity Ward events were discussed at the very beginning of the podcast??, they are only news like for example EA shutting down Pandemic , but it seems that a lot of people being fired goes on the "News of the world" segment because it's not very important and some rumors about the devs of MW2 goes right after the bombcast theme.

Posted by Valru
@JEC03 said:
" I disagree with Jeff this still doesn't feel like a real bf game it feels much more like a cod game unfortunately im dissapointed with it :( but im still going to keep playing it ,if this was a real bf game it would  be.  1.PC only  2.no regenerating health. healthbars intstead. 3.jets 4.prone 5.64 players 6.slower pace not so fast and arcady. 7.Commanders I could go on and on i  really hope bf3 is the next real bf game bbc2 isnt even close.      "
I've been playing Battlefield competitively since 1942 and goddamn you are nitpicking 
 
1)irrelevent since everyone knows bad company is more console focused,  but goddamn is the PC version superior 
2)dated game design, RED = DIEING THERE IS YOUR HEALTHBAR
3)bf3 
4)badcompany is a faster pace so prone is useless, wait for bf3 
5) 32 PLAYER BATTLEFIELD HAS ALWAYS BEEN SUPERIOR. 
6) Battlefield is not slow paced, ARMA is slow paced 
7) Commanders are a failed BF2 gimmick, 1942 didn't have any. 
 
in summary stop being so fucking anal, all my buddies from the 1942 competitive scene absolutely love this. 
 
1942 MADE THE SERIES, fuck off BF2 fanbois.
Posted by Sam3R

did not relies how good CoD MW2 until I played this game I think ppl who made this should be more than happy for 4 stars...
from me I think 3.5 at best... the whole engine that game is based at is rubbish... the controls are annoying.. dont know what
is wrong with the original controls that are used all over fps games.. I think they are a mess...
 
play CoD insted, ooor.. just rent a typical hollywood movie... maybe some rambo movie.. coz that what the campaign felt like.
multiplayer... stick with the demo... thats the most fun about the game. 
better spend ur money on what ever makes u happy

Posted by MeatSim

My copies coming in the mail today, get wait.

Posted by Gizmo

People play the Battlefield series for the singleplayer?
 
Give me a break.

Posted by Mezmero

I'll be giving a lot of time to the multiplayer.  I shoot better after I've been blazin'. <===~

Edited by pavakah

[Edit]
 I was surprised that you didn't feel the game was good enough for 5 stars.  I guess I'd understand it more if you didn't like the multi player, but you seem to have nothing bad to say about it.  If you're basing the score heavily on the single player campaign, then I guess I'd have take issue with the 5 stars MW 2 received.  Either way, it's a little incongruous.

Edited by ryukendevereaux

BC:2 single player > MW:2 single player 
  
BC:2 multi-player > MW:2 multi-player 
 
and it got 4 stars..........  BC:2 kicks ass, I enjoyed the SP and the multiplayer is the shit. 
 
 
btw 4 stars is good, but when you have to compare it to other FPS shooters that got 5, I won't mention any names .
Posted by CTS_1987

I didn't really care to much about the fist Battlefield bad company, but this one blew me away. Singleplayer is sweet also funny the audio and lighting are some of the best i have heard and seen this generation for games. I also like the multiplayer to me its better than Modern Warfare 2's multiplayer.
Posted by rta

the fact there is actually anything good to say about  single player in a bf game is a HUGE compliment. this game is looking sick. some real messes to sort out on the pc end (server issues) but it's going to be a great ride.

Posted by Spongetwan

I played alittle of the game yesterday and I actually was enjoying the single-player. The graphics seem really good. I am hoping i will get a change to jump into the multi-player this weekend!

Edited by Gregomasta

I'll be honest, the singleplayer comes in second place compared to the multiplayer.  The singleplayer is very good and my squad is really fun to be around, hearing their anecdotes is a treat.  Multiplayer however gives me high octane perk lust like no-one's business.    The squad based gameplay is refreshing, it creates awesome moments such as working with my squad in squad deathmatch, holding down a building and working together to keep health up, ammo filled and spotting anyone that comes near; or defending crates in Rush always trying to make sure at least one guy stays alive.  The gameplay is fulfilling in every way I want a shooter to be but at the end of every match I want more, thank goodness all I need to do is click big JOIN button to continue on.  The game as a whole, multiplayer and singleplayer gets a 5 star rating for me, I don't see how it couldn't, however to judge singleplayer alone I'd understand it having only 4.  Good game, honest review.  Stop the mw2 hating, its even worth mentioning in the same page as bfbc2, and start spotting people.

Posted by ImBigInJapan

Somehow I completely failed to notice this game coming out until I saw just about everyone on my Steam friends list playing it.

Edited by Trilogy

Its funny to watch everyone get pissy over the the 4 star review and then say shit like "call of duty fanboy" and "the star system has to go". Its pretty damn hypocritical. Most people only care about multiplayer when it comes to Battlefield games. Jeff mentioned the multiplayer being the focus of the game and that it was good. So shut up, buy the game, and enjoy it. I know I will.

Posted by regnits

I don't get the review about the single player. This is not meant to be Crysis but a COD type experience. A shooter on rails in other words. I found the SP a lot a fun and the story was no worst than MW2s what the hells going on.
 
But I can see no one going to agree on SP but I'm glad we all agree MP rocks. The maps take a few days to work out but once you know what the hells going on the fun starts here. This is the first MP game where I like all the game modes. There are not as many as other shooters but all of them are high quality.
 
This game is a must for any shooter fan.
 
Easily 5/5 for me.
   

Posted by Yukoei

Great review.

Posted by Babble

Good review!

Posted by Ghost_of_Perdition

Disappointing to find out that the single player campaign didn't improve upon the last one. Then again I got the feeling that it wasn't the focus of this game, what with the lack of trailers that featured the characters like Bad World or Snake Eyes.

Posted by Cramsy
 @TheJollyRajah said:
" Jeff, this is a 5 star game. COD is the most overrated shit ever.   Seriously, MAG gets 4 stars along with this??? Sometimes I feel you should ditch the 5 star system. "
YEAH :D Because the /10 system (or should I say 6-10 scale) is so fantastic... 
I would prefer no ratings at all but the 5 star system is the best around.
Posted by Cramsy

These games have always sounded insanely good, thanks for picking up on that Jeff!

Edited by JEC03

I disagree with Jeff this still doesn't feel like a real bf game it feels much more like a cod game unfortunately im dissapointed with it :( but im still going to keep playing it ,if this was a real bf game it would  be. 
 
1.PC only  
2.no regenerating health. healthbars intstead. 
3.jets 
4.prone 
5.64 players 
6.slower pace not so fast and arcady. 
7.Commanders 
I could go on and on i  really hope bf3 is the next real bf game bbc2 isnt even close. 
 
   
Posted by RHCPfan24

Very good review. I will still get it but I am disappointed that the single player faltered somewhat. That is not to say the first did not but I expected an improvement.

Posted by Clint

Just finished the campaign after diving into multiplayer for most of yesterday, and I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed by the BC2 campaign. The first I thought was pretty excellent, really taking advantage of the variety of stuff you could do in Battlefield relative to other games to give you a lot of interesting tasks to do. The backdrop of the characters and lunacy of what you were trying to accomplish certainly helped too. 
 
Here, I'm pretty sure I spent 90% of my time going down streets or hallways shooting people in the face. There's nothing wrong with that, but compared to the open feel of the first, this one just feels dull.

Posted by MrKlorox

I just knew it'd get a 4 somehow.

Posted by Carlos1408

Great review Jeff. If I have the money i'll probably pick this one up, I skipped the first one. The destructible environments have always called at my psychotic and sadistic side :P

Posted by xChaoticShadowx

Ya, the Single Player is not the strong point of the came.  However, MP is great.  It takes a while to get into but I was very impressed.  Exceed my expectations.  To be honest I HATED the first game.  Huge step up!

Posted by solviper

I thought the campaign was very enjoyable. yet all the reviews say it plain sucks. It's fun and ends right where the multiplayer begins.

Posted by Zatoichi_Sanjuro
@Seppli said:
" @jadeskye said:

" @Seppli: lol excuse me for having an opinion?  This is just a stepping stone game for me anyway, i'll be along when BF3 comes out, the REAL Battlefield game. "

 I seriously got to add j/k to such things - people just seem not to get my sense of fun. I really don't care about your opinion that much.  BF3 will very likely blow me away too. Nontheless - I live in the NOW and now Battlefield : Bad Company 2 is the TRUE Battlefield.  Get over yourself and take off your sweaty old worn-out BF2 blinders. "
Have to agree with this. Although the first BC didn't live up to my expectations of a Battlefield mp game the beta for BC2 got me hooked. 
 
BC2 will tide me over nicely till BF3.
Posted by TheHBK

HAHAHA burn all you BC2 fanboys.
I just got the game, really great so far.  Don't think I will touch the SP because I thought the characters in the first game were bitches.
But sure is a burn for those bitches say, oh BC2 will be so much better, it will be the real modern shooter, wont be cheap, wont be glitchy, blah blah blah.  I have a sack and can enjoy both games.
By the way, why does no one join a squad?  Or when you do, why does no one in the squad use voice chat?

Posted by CitizenKane
@Addfwyn said:
" @CitizenKane:  Just to be fair, while I agree with you in most areas, it is possible to dislike MW2 for reasons besides being contrarian.  I dunno if you meant that everyone who dislikes MW hates it for that reason, or just that specific group.  Otherwise yes, two different games that do two different things.  One is a more arcadey deathmatch style shooter, one is a more objective oriented battle, and both do their niche well.  Both have lackluster SP, so there's not much competition there. "
I only meant that certain group of people.
Edited by Gregomasta

Picked this up today, really enjoying it so far.

Posted by bybeach

I don`t understand here, why does one game have to be better than the other? from the sound of the various reviews, MP in BF Bad company 2 is created by the gods. MW2 mp is suppossed to be great also, but with some complaints that have since surfaced. And this isn`t including the server issue that pc gamers objected to. 
 
I lose anyways, because I thought the Single player in BF-bad comany 1 was flat, and was  looking forward to this one. Jeff for some reason seems to think well of the last one, but says kinda flat for the new release. If the ever drops in price, i may buy it just to see for myself. At any rate, right on for the MP, though i don`t do it. probably fat chance it`ll drop in price soon, one sign i think of a top notch/well regarded game.  
 
back to Pripyat, stalker!
Edited by kingando420
@CitizenKane said:

" @Bucketdeth said:

" @CitizenKane said:

" You pro-BC2/anti-MW2 people really need to get a hold of yourselves.  So your baby scored less than the game you love to hate for the sake of being contrarian.  Big fucking deal.    If you want to cry, go somewhere else, because I am getting really tired of all this BC2-MW2 bullshit you guys are parading around this site.  Keep doing it and see what happens to you. "

Just opinion's man, I feel this game deserves more and so do some people and some don't, if we all agreed with everything it would be a pretty boring world. "
I have no problem with disagreeing opinions, but this whole BC2-MW2 "rivalry" has now gone to fanboy-ish levels of ignorance and stupidity.  You like BC2 more than MW2?  Good for you.  I personally don't give a damn what game suits your fancy, but this "MW2 sucks BC2 pwnz0rz it!!!" and, as Jeff mentioned in yesterday's podcast, people saying the whole thing unfolding at Infinity Ward was just a publicity stunt to try to take publicity away from BC2 shenanigans is ending now. "
They spent at least 4 times as much time talking about IF as they did on BC2  on the podcast  so maybe Activisions timing was spot on......just saying.
Edited by Seppli
@jadeskye said:

" @Seppli: lol excuse me for having an opinion?  This is just a stepping stone game for me anyway, i'll be along when BF3 comes out, the REAL Battlefield game. "

 
I seriously got to add j/k to such things - people just seem not to get my sense of fun. I really don't care about your opinion that much. 
 
BF3 will very likely blow me away too. Nontheless - I live in the NOW and now Battlefield : Bad Company 2 is the TRUE Battlefield. 
 
Get over yourself and take off your sweaty old worn-out BF2 blinders.
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