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Posted by Shaanyboi

@AlexanderSheen said:

@MeatSim said:

Brad's nightmare is finally over.

Or is it?! RE6 for TNT!

Breaking Brad: Every RE6 achievement

Posted by AlexanderSheen

@MeatSim said:

Brad's nightmare is finally over.

Or is it?! RE6 for TNT!

Posted by BaconBuTTy

This annoys me - "But *I* got this game and [describes the polar opposite experience to Brad's and the vast majority of other reviews]"

Posted by needforswede

Good lord, Brad, you've nailed it. I just played about 1.5 chapters of this game (Leon's campaign) because, get this, my friend rented it, didn't know what to think about it, but hypothesized that it may just actually be more fun to watch someone else play this game than actually play it yourself. I believe that was a smart thing to assume. The cut scenes are nice, the graphics are gorgeous, the voice acting is well done, and if I were as nostalgic about this series as my friend is, I'd probably enjoy just WATCHING someone play through it, treating it as a cinematic experience.

But about mid-way through that graveyard shit, I was ready to bow out and my friend had FALLEN ASLEEP. Keep in mind, the friend in question is actually a cop, and loves RE2 because you play as Leon, a cop on his first day...I dunno, most people love that game, and in fact he likes 1 through 4, but Leon as a character always seemed to resonate with him. And he was counting all the RE2 references that were being made until he just got bored and nodded off. I don't blame him.

And the camera is just out of control...I've never been given motion sickness by a game that wasn't a terrible flight simulator. And what's this? There's actually a fourth campaign too? Brad, you suffer for your work, I can't imagine playing through even one of these campaigns with its fundamental flaws and nearly vomit-inducing camera. I mean, I get a little money for reviewing movies now and then, but I have to say, at least a bad movie is usually no more than a 2 hour experience.

I played the demo for this a lot, and I think it had to do with the fact that I was trying to pinpoint something satisfying about the gameplay. I tried to like it more. I canceled my pre-order at GameStop while the employee was questioning my choice to do so, and trying to sell me on all the "cool stuff" in the game, it drove me mad, it took a great deal of restraint to not say "Cut the shit, man...we both know this is a very bad game."

When people started bitching about RE6 after the demo came out, I thought that was actually a good sign, because they all seemed to be the same complaints they had about RE5 upon its release, and that's a game I actually loved, and played through maybe three times. I wasn't too fond of the previous entries in the series, and for some reason I'm one of the few who enjoyed RE5, which was widely considered to be the shittiest one, up until now.

This was me playing RE6: "What the fuck is even going on? What is SUPPOSED to be going on?" And this applied to some of the cut scenes as well as the action happening within the game. The rest of the time I spent wondering what bodies were going to get up as soon as I passed them, and which ones were just props, and constantly trying to figure out if I should try and kill a group of enemies or just run past them as most of the time they just seemed to respawn endlessly or at least never fucking die. Also I got hit by a train...and a truck...and one time the AI Helena kicked a zombie in the face which redirected its acid vomit or whatever right back in MY face, leaving me wounded and helpless on the train tracks, once again getting killed by something off screen.

It's too bad, I really wanted to like it, trust me. But thankfully I don't like it and won't be spending that $60 this month. Sure, there are much worse games, but one just tends to expect more from a Resident Evil game, especially one as wildly ambitious as this one that seemed to show a lot of promise earlier this year. I don't mind Japanese developers trying to "Westernize" their games by including cover mechanics, more action, shooting, etc., but come on...just aim to please your already huge and devout fan base instead of trying to branch out into unfamiliar territory to try and please everyone. RE6 is a jack of many trades but a master of none.

Whew...I feel better now.

Posted by magnum45

And the irony is that the Western culture in several ways almost demands that the Japanese developers cater to the western-people and thereby destroying their unique style.. I feel sad for em :(

But still, they can and do still make some of the best IP's in the world(Looking at you Metal Gear and the Souls games)

Posted by mrsmiley

Very well-written review, Brad. I know that it's not easy to talk down about such a huge game, as you risk massive backlash from fans, but I felt that you explained yourself very well. As shiny as this game looks, I would have felt the same way, as little annoying quirks really grate on me, especially with such a long game.

Posted by hollitz

I think the time has finally come for me to skip a Resident Evil main series game. Maybe I'll just download Code Veronica HD. Still my favorite entry in the series.

Most disappointing game of the year sounds like it will be a contentious category this year. One the one hand, RE6 sounds like junk in every respect, aside from visuals. But I don't think it came as THAT much of a surprise. Mass Effect 3 as a third act was such a gut punch though. ME3 worked fine as a game, however. Looking forward to December!

Posted by honkyjesus

@Napalm: Ditto.

How long should this go on?

Edited by mr_woo

I genuinely don't understand Brads complaints about the controls in this. I've finished all main 3 campaigns now (with a friend of mine) and I thought the controls were sublime and absolutely much better to control than RE4 and RE5, had no issues with them at all. The game was a lot of fun to play because of them. I was ducking around with no issues, sliding into cover, counter meleeing enemies, quick shotting zombies, shooting whilst lying down to stop myself getting damaged during recovery, rolling and jumping backwards to avoid jumping enemies and get some shots in. I never felt out of control and never felt myself being overwhelmed by enemies as I had so much control over what I could do. Unfortunately the camera can be very dodgy at times which can be annoying.

After playing all 3 campaigns it's a wonderfully amibitious fun mess. There are problems, it's a flawed game no doubt, but I certainly found it by no means to be 'terrible' or 'awful' It does make me chuckle that Capcom used 600 people on this though, apparently they shaved nearly 2 months off production as well and I think it shows in the polish department.

Looking forward to the bonus content and mercenaries now, the combat especially shines in that mode I've found.

Posted by honkyjesus

Should I post order two or six?

Posted by LiquidPrince

I picked this game up today, just to see how it truly is, and it's pretty awesome. I have died twice in the two hours that I have played, but it's never been cheap. It's been my own fault. I'm about to start chapter 3 of Leon. I'm not trying to be a contrarian, but unless the game just gets way way harder in the forseeable future, I think that Brad is wrong on this one. Or another way to say it is, I disagree with Brad.

Posted by mosdl

@Brad said:

@mortal_sb said:

this is probably a pretty well written review, but man, i checked in word: 2700 words and almost 4 pages. that's just too long. three times the length in comparison to the joystiq review. a review shouldn't be a short story.

i know GB loves to do long and elaborate reviews, but i would prefer if they would review 2-3 games more and write reviews that are only (at max) half als long as these.

If you think the writing is the lengthiest part of the review process, you're badly mistaken.

How long did you debate the final star rating (I assume it was a 1 vs 2 star debate)?

Posted by honkyjesus

It is too late in this generation to put up with bad games, if you feel empathy for a title like this just save up for a Wii U. You will be getting titles like this for the next ten years.

Posted by honkyjesus

@Gunharp: Like most people who don't use Twitter as an easy commercial feed and for nobody to see their comments... @KimKardashianFamousAndOtherThings.

Seriously?

Posted by AaronChance

Well... at least we got a well-written review of it.

Posted by Gscept

The biggest upset Since Resident Evil Racoon city, Maybe if they implemented Racoon City with this then maybe a 4 star. But not even the Anthology Makes up for their failure. I Feel bad for Capcom I hope they don't upset us with Lost Plane 3 as well.

Posted by Lothars

@algertman: lol no it isn't Diablo 3 is a great game that certain people love to hate it.

RE6 I think will be a decisive game if anything, you will either love it or hate it and not really anyone in between.

Posted by honkyjesus

It isn't like you need to play the game to calll payola keep your job on reviewers. The effing demo explained it all.

Loved RE4, great RE5, shitty action game RE6.

No problem with it being an action game, yet another shitty Japanese action game forget even a rental.

Posted by Stinkins

Brad is right. I love Resident Evil. One of my favorite series of all time. But that is what is keeping me playing this. There's no reason to play if you are not a hardcore fan. This game is just missing that RE mojo and polish man.

Edited by Gunharp

@Hef said:

@Gunharp said:

@Vitor said:

@Winternet said:

@Gunharp said:

said:

"...what must have been one of the most expensive productions in video game history."

Can anyone confirm this? Curious as to what the estimated budget is.

I would think Too Human and APB are still the kings of this category Brad puts RE6 into. Also I am not defending RE6, will probably check it out next year when I have the free time. What a divisive game.

The Old Republic must be the new king on the expensive-production-department. L.A. Noire must also be up there.

Yeah, but those two aren't categorically held up as examples of bad games. Not to everyone's taste maybe but they still did well critically.

Too Human and APB flopped both commercially and critically.

Yes, what Vintor said :)

GT5 son

GT5 Son? Haha, you are talking to the wrong guy! I've almost platinum-ed GT5, it's one of the greatest racing games I have ever played. Also I am a big fan of auto sports and sim and non simulator racing games. There is a whole world out there that enjoyed and still enjoys GT5. Round here I feel like I have to write that.

GT5 fell very far from the commercial and or critically panned bucket.

I was using those two games as examples of critically and commercially failed games. SWTOR and the other big budgets do not fall into that category that Brad discusses about in his review.

Furthermore anyone got any idea on the budget yet? No idea if even knows.

Posted by seismicshock

@Brad: Shhh, we're busy defending a game we've never played

Posted by algertman

@bkbroiler said:

@Knives said:

Resident Evil 6 may be the most lavishly produced bad game in history.

I think you mean Diablo III. 5 stars!

Say what you want about how disappointing D3 game is, it is anything but bad or poorly made.

Diablo III is trash.

Posted by Lazyaza

@Brad

@BananaofDoom said:

@Brad:There are two kinds of people, those who have seen Plinkett's reviews, and those who haven't.

You guys seen RedLetterMedia's Half in the Bag reviews? If not I highly recommend you check them out, Mike (guy who invented/voices the Plinkett character) and his friend Jay do some damn funny and interesting film reviews.

Posted by bkbroiler

@Knives said:

Resident Evil 6 may be the most lavishly produced bad game in history.

I think you mean Diablo III. 5 stars!

Say what you want about how disappointing D3 game is, it is anything but bad or poorly made.

Posted by Daveyo520

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Posted by depecheload

@lordofultima said:

@jasius said:

So its Aliens 3 of gaming?

You shut up, Alien 3 was great. It took a lot of the tension of alien, and some action from aliens.

The problem with Alien 3 is that it's a pretty good movie. It's just a shit sequel to Aliens.

Posted by Napalm

@MURDERSMASH said:

More people need to do the same, and not get their jimmies all rustled when someone says a game they like isn't any good.

Sorry, but your subjective feelings on a piece of entertainment isn't an overarching objective fact. That's not how opinions work.

Posted by Delta_Ass

@vinsanityv22 said:

I don't understand why RE6 is being targeted for these flaws when they're prevalent in overrated dreck like Dead Space 2 as well. God I hate Dead Space. It too is well produced, but a complete mess. There's absolutely no scares or tension. It's just a clunky action game where the lights flicker on and off a lot. But man - the 5 star reviews and praise couldn't come fast enough for EA's awkward shooter.

I'm not arguing with Brad's review of RE6. I'm sure everything he says is true - Brad backs up everything he says with plenty of examples, and Capcom is sort of a mess these days anyway. They don't know what to do with Mega Man, or Resident Evil, or anything else they're doing at the moment it seems (except for, like, DmC). All I'm saying is that people tend to turn a blind eye to other games that do the same shit. It's frustrating. I can't believe Brad mentioned Infamous and Dead Space in the same breath up there, when one's buttery smooth and responsive and the other... well the other is Dead Space.

Even Conan O'Brien could sense that this was a bit of a mess. In his words, "Zombie genre should be simple; see zombie, kill zombie". This definitely deserved the 35 he gave it ;)

Oh well, at least I can pick up RE: Revelations.

I don't understand this at all. First of all, Dead Space is not clunky at all compared to Resident Evil 4 and 5. For god's sake, you couldn't even move and shoot in those games. Dead Space actually lets you move and shoot, which is great.

Secondly, while DS1 might feel a little clunky compared to other third person shooters, it at least made sense because you were in a big, heavy, restrictive environmental suit. The game's fiction actually supported the slow, limiting movements. Resident Evil has no such excuse. You're not in a clunky armored suit, you're Leon Kennedy dressed in a leather jacket and jeans. There's no reason why the controls suck in those RE games. It's bullshit.

Posted by Knives
Resident Evil 6 may be the most lavishly produced bad game in history.

I think you mean Diablo III. 5 stars!

Posted by spankingaddict

Can't we all get along ?!

Agree to disagree ...

Posted by Nomin

One of the most polarizing mainstream game critically in recent memory. From all the videos of the game I have watched, the most rewarding way of playing the game is through co-op. If that is your main concern, one can do worse than picking up this game.

Posted by MURDERSMASH

@Judge_Dredd said:

@MURDERSMASH: Quality of games and entertainment really is subjective. Somebody can consider RE6 a good game and there's no way to say they're wrong as a fact. Everyone has different taste.

There's a difference between liking something, and that something being "good", and that's what i'm trying to point out. I totally agree that everyone has different tastes. But when Brad points out basic design and gameplay issues that disrupt the experience in many ways, all signs begin pointing to the game being of poor quality. Some people can overlook those issues and still have a good time, and that's totally cool. But that doesn't mean those issues aren't still there.

That's why I brought up Sonic Unleashed. The Werehog was among the worst design decisions Sonic Team has ever made for the Sonic franchise. It's slow, clunky, and monotonous. Yet I was able to look past that and have a good time, but I can still see the problems there. Sonic Unleashed is BAD. But that's OK with me, because I still have a good time playing it. I wouldn't go recommending it to non-Sonic people, and I feel the same way about RE6 right now. It's bad, and shouldn't be recommended to anyone other than the hardcore fans who are willing to look past all of the design and game-play issues because they just want to be in RE's world.

Posted by falserelic

O shit! its that Big Budget Disaster baby Evil Residents sicks....

Posted by Brad

@vinsanityv22 said:

I don't understand why RE6 is being targeted for these flaws when they're prevalent in overrated dreck like Dead Space 2 as well. God I hate Dead Space. It too is well produced, but a complete mess. There's absolutely no scares or tension. It's just a clunky action game where the lights flicker on and off a lot. But man - the 5 star reviews and praise couldn't come fast enough for EA's awkward shooter.

I'm not arguing with Brad's review of RE6. I'm sure everything he says is true - Brad backs up everything he says with plenty of examples, and Capcom is sort of a mess these days anyway. They don't know what to do with Mega Man, or Resident Evil, or anything else they're doing at the moment it seems (except for, like, DmC). All I'm saying is that people tend to turn a blind eye to other games that do the same shit. It's frustrating. I can't believe Brad mentioned Infamous and Dead Space in the same breath up there, when one's buttery smooth and responsive and the other... well the other is Dead Space.

Even Conan O'Brien could sense that this was a bit of a mess. In his words, "Zombie genre should be simple; see zombie, kill zombie". This definitely deserved the 35 he gave it ;)

Oh well, at least I can pick up RE: Revelations.

It's one thing if you don't like what Dead Space is going for, but calling it a "complete mess" is completely dishonest. It does what it does extremely well. If it's not to your taste, it's fine, but RE6 is fucked up in very fundamental ways that Dead Space can't even imagine. Let's be realistic here.

Staff
Posted by Delta_Ass

@Brad said:

@Delta_Ass said:

@bigstrat2003 said:

@neoepoch said:

I'd say the Stars Wars prequels are way better than this game. Take that as you will.

I think the Star Wars prequels are good, and I don't care how many people disagree. Episode 3 was by far the best in the series, and even episode 1 (the worst in the series) was still a fun-ass movie.

It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on.

What's wrong with your FACE

You want a pizza roll?

Posted by BananaofDoom

@Brad:There are two kinds of people, those who have seen Plinkett's reviews, and those who haven't.

Posted by Meltbrain

I trust your judgement, Mr. Shoemaker. By all means I'll give the game a look and see what's going on but yeah... I have a feeling I won't like it, and that is sad.

Posted by Brad

@Delta_Ass said:

@bigstrat2003 said:

@neoepoch said:

I'd say the Stars Wars prequels are way better than this game. Take that as you will.

I think the Star Wars prequels are good, and I don't care how many people disagree. Episode 3 was by far the best in the series, and even episode 1 (the worst in the series) was still a fun-ass movie.

It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on.

What's wrong with your FACE

Staff
Posted by Delta_Ass

@bigstrat2003 said:

@neoepoch said:

I'd say the Stars Wars prequels are way better than this game. Take that as you will.

I think the Star Wars prequels are good, and I don't care how many people disagree. Episode 3 was by far the best in the series, and even episode 1 (the worst in the series) was still a fun-ass movie.

It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on.

Posted by pw2566ch

@kerse said:

I hope Japan doesn't keep up this trend. If they want to use things that are in popular western games they need to understand why those things are fun, or not fun. Just because qte's are in some really popular titles over here, doesn't mean we like them. In fact I think almost all of us hate them unless they're used sparingly. I loved Asura's Wrath but I feel like its an exception.

I don't know if I'm in the minority but I want the scary back in "survival horror" games, is it just hard to make a game scary?

Actually, I think Japan should keep doing what they're doing. I mean, not this of course, but most of what they do the entirety of their Asian market love it. That's why their TV shows, commercials, and movies are mostly different than what we have. This is why JRPG's are still around.

Edited by vinsanityv22

I don't understand why RE6 is being targeted for these flaws when they're prevalent in overrated dreck like Dead Space 2 as well. God I hate Dead Space. It too is well produced, but a complete mess. There's absolutely no scares or tension. It's just a clunky action game where the lights flicker on and off a lot. But man - the 5 star reviews and praise couldn't come fast enough for EA's awkward shooter.

I'm not arguing with Brad's review of RE6. I'm sure everything he says is true - Brad backs up everything he says with plenty of examples, and Capcom is sort of a mess these days anyway. They don't know what to do with Mega Man, or Resident Evil, or anything else they're doing at the moment it seems (except for, like, DmC). All I'm saying is that people tend to turn a blind eye to other games that do the same shit. It's frustrating. I can't believe Brad mentioned Infamous and Dead Space in the same breath up there, when one's buttery smooth and responsive and the other... well the other is Dead Space.

Even Conan O'Brien could sense that this was a bit of a mess. In his words, "Zombie genre should be simple; see zombie, kill zombie". This definitely deserved the 35 he gave it ;)

Oh well, at least I can pick up RE: Revelations.

Posted by Judge_Dredd

@MURDERSMASH: Quality of games and entertainment really is subjective. Somebody can consider RE6 a good game and there's no way to say they're wrong as a fact. Everyone has different taste.

Posted by MURDERSMASH

@Napalm said:

Unless you're being sarcastic, taking this attitude to somebody simply saying they enjoy this game is a real dick move, and you should probably stop.

I'm being serious. People can like and enjoy games, even where they're bad. There's nothing insulting, condescending, or sarcastic about that.

Look at Sonic Unleashed. That game has a million problems, yet I put in 30 hours of game time, and had a blast doing so. I can recognize that i'm enjoying a game when it is, in fact, not of high quality. More people need to do the same, and not get their jimmies all rustled when someone says a game they like isn't any good.

Posted by DrWhat

@iAmJohn: oh, is that how you find reviews? Thanks for investing the effort in making that link for me.

Brad was ready to throw his controller through the television and hated his life for 30 hours, if you go by I Love Mondays, the QL, and the Bombcast. If that's not "fundamentally abhorrent" to Brad, does it actually have to punch him in the nuts?

Posted by Napalm

Man, this review is a goddamn monster. Clearly Brad had a ton to say.

@MURDERSMASH said:

@duke1gears0 said:

Whatever, I like RE6

That's fine. It's OK to like bad games.

Unless you're being sarcastic, taking this attitude to somebody simply saying they enjoy this game is a real dick move, and you should probably stop.

Posted by Yummylee

@iAmJohn: They've been setting that sorta tone across the marketing for a while; the whole ''No Hope Left'' theme in particular has been dragged along since close to the very beginning. And yeah, it doesn't match the majority of RE6's story at all. There are some notably grim moments, one especially during Chris' ending, but otherwise it's action hero quips, explosions everywhere, and a slimy naked woman who likes to feel herself up every so often.

What's also ironic is the endings are all sunshine and rainbows across all of the campaigns... Not exactly in line with No Hope Left.
Posted by Metric_Outlaw

Man I don't know if I've ever been this disappointed with a game before. I loved 4 to death and genuinely enjoyed 5 but hearing how broken this is is really upsetting to me.