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Posted by MormonWarrior

This is so disappointing...RE4 is easily in my top ten games of all time and very special to me (I also found it absolutely terrifying the first time through, scarier than any of the previous games - to each their own) and RE5 really got its hooks into me even though I didn't like it nearly as much as 4. I almost considered going for an S rank but it was just too much.

I won't be picking this up. I've been playing the supposedly disappointing Revelations on my 3DS XL and it's not great. If that's better than 6, I'm gonna stay far, far away.

Posted by Gunharp

@Vitor said:

@Winternet said:

@Gunharp said:

said:

"...what must have been one of the most expensive productions in video game history."

Can anyone confirm this? Curious as to what the estimated budget is.

I would think Too Human and APB are still the kings of this category Brad puts RE6 into. Also I am not defending RE6, will probably check it out next year when I have the free time. What a divisive game.

The Old Republic must be the new king on the expensive-production-department. L.A. Noire must also be up there.

Yeah, but those two aren't categorically held up as examples of bad games. Not to everyone's taste maybe but they still did well critically.

Too Human and APB flopped both commercially and critically.

Yes, what Vintor said :)

Posted by MiniPato

@Brad said:

Yeah, FF13's biggest problem is pacing. If they had condensed the first 20 hours into about three, I would have loved it.

Did you ever go back to XIII-2? It's actually really good. Made significant gameplay improvements, but a step back in story cause you don't really care at all about the protagonists.

Posted by Hockeymask27

The girl is totally going down on the giraffe.

Posted by bigstrat2003

@neoepoch said:

I'd say the Stars Wars prequels are way better than this game. Take that as you will.

I think the Star Wars prequels are good, and I don't care how many people disagree. Episode 3 was by far the best in the series, and even episode 1 (the worst in the series) was still a fun-ass movie.

Posted by Hef

@Gunharp said:

@Vitor said:

@Winternet said:

@Gunharp said:

said:

"...what must have been one of the most expensive productions in video game history."

Can anyone confirm this? Curious as to what the estimated budget is.

I would think Too Human and APB are still the kings of this category Brad puts RE6 into. Also I am not defending RE6, will probably check it out next year when I have the free time. What a divisive game.

The Old Republic must be the new king on the expensive-production-department. L.A. Noire must also be up there.

Yeah, but those two aren't categorically held up as examples of bad games. Not to everyone's taste maybe but they still did well critically.

Too Human and APB flopped both commercially and critically.

Yes, what Vintor said :)

GT5 son

Posted by jonano

Well it seems like those guys at Capcom should of just copied Dead Space and not Gears . Dead Space's combat is basically an evolution of RE 4's combat that works really well ,it's exciting , it was able to create a good bit of tension and it came out 4 years ago!

Edited by AjayRaz

i'm sorry, brad.

Edited by stryker1121

Too many cooks spoil the broth. RE6 is what happens when you try to appeal to everyone who's played a video game in life. Not shocking that cemetery crawls and by God fighter jet sequences (in a Resi game!!) don't mix very well. What's very disappointing is that RE6 is unable to get those sections right from even a basic gameplay standpoint. Capcom needs to hand the franchise off to another dev for a complete wipe and reboot.

And save your cries that the series is "evolving." The series that started going downhill at RE5 has further "devolved" due to ridiculous industry standards of what sells and how many units need to sell to make a title a success. Christ, not everyone wants a Hollywood hand-holdy action game when there's dozens of similar games available annually.

Posted by FoxMulder

At least they got this one out early in the end of the year game rush. Now you'll be able to hopefully enjoy the rest of the good looking games this year!

Posted by Brad

@bybeach said:

@BATMANBATMAN85 said:

I was really expecting a one start here... I think Brad like this game!

I like this logic...and of course w/out any experience of this franchise at all, I keep hearing about RES4 and for what it did, RES 5. I was half expecting one star also.

The only comment I have to make of my own is at least some of the artwork, the little that I saw during the QL and that first picture, where Brad is describing a negative in his review. It looks rather...good! Nice lighting. I'm sure his point is valid, but that is a effective screen-grab.

Yeah, if the frame rate was steadier this would be a fine-looking game. I bet it will look great on PC.

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Posted by nimbil

Wow, I had a completely different experience to Brad with the mechanics. I love them. I actually had to set it to Hard for it to be a challenge. I must admit the QTE are oddly placed.

I'm so over the the regurgitation of 3rd and 1st person shooters and it's good to see Resident Evil 6 freshen it up with the awesome dodging mechanics.

Posted by Lurkero

To be fair, I would have rated Resident Evil 5 a 2/5 and I had a lot of fun playing that game in co-op. I am assuming I will have less fun with RE6, but I will most likely still have fun.

@Sooty said:

The worst thing about RE6 is that people will now look back on 5 as if it was actually a good game.

All you need to do is read Brad's RE5 review for that.

Posted by lordofultima

@jasius said:

So its Aliens 3 of gaming?

You shut up, Alien 3 was great. It took a lot of the tension of alien, and some action from aliens.

Posted by ninjalegend

Man, that stinks.

Resident Evil - Shinji Mikami eventually = RE6

Ninja Gaiden - Tomonobu Itagaki = Ninja Gaiden 3

I don't think developers should continue a series of an IP right away once one of the main visionaries that helped create it leaves. They should take better care of their IP, making sure they have a lead that truly understands what makes the series special in the first place.

Edited by Yummylee

Yeah, RE6's story is of little consequence by the end of it, which is what especially left me disappointed. I had hoped that it would finally wrap up the one remaining thread left established by the older fiction that is the Leon and Ada arc. But no, it pretty much leaves it right where it was left in the very beginning! The fact that they didn't just MGS4 this un and bring back everybody in some capacity was such a let down at that... As weird as it is, it's the story that I was really rooting for up to release.

The way so much unexplored history and character development is delegated to out-of-the-way files in ''Special Features'' is also insane! The story is significantly more intriguing once some more of the blanks are filled up; it's not an ideal tale, but it could have been something much more enjoyable if they managed to work in all of stuff they've described within the unlockables file. Jake's history, the relationship between Derek and Ada, The Family, and so on.

The implication that Jake Muller is to potentially be the series' new leading man also troubles me... But who knows if they'll actually carry on with the current canon of the series. It's now more than ever in dire need of a reboot as the varying tones and types of gameplay are all so scattershot and it's obvious they currently don't have a clear goal in mind with what the Hell to do with the series.

Posted by RecSpec

My siblings and I were able to struggle through Operation Raccoon City. It wasn't really fun at any point. But we were able to keep going forward until we finally beat it. 
 
With RE6 we don't have any motivation to keep playing. Which is pretty damn insane, and depressing. I want to finish it eventually, but jeez

Posted by DrWhat

Okay, if this wasn't one star, you have to retire the one star rating.

Posted by Amaru25

what brad forgot to mention was that the game is actually good because of reasons.

Posted by TheHumanDove

Thanks OBAMA

Posted by Fram

Say what you will about the "I Love Mondays" and bombcast RE6 talk - this piece shows why Brad is the man. Seriously, dude is one of the best reviewers out there IMO.

#teambrad #yotb #yearofthebrad

Posted by jerseyscum

Ouch.

Edited by iAmJohn

@DrWhat said:

Okay, if this wasn't one star, you have to retire the one star rating.

Dude, go read, like, any of the one star reviews. It's pretty obvious that they save the single star for games that are actively broken and/or fundamentally abhorrent.

Relatedly, has anyone else seen the Resident Evil 6 TV commercial? It's really strange and melodramatic, almost like they're trying to have their own "Mad World" without spending the money to use anything but the in-game cutscenes and it comes off incredibly muddled. It makes me feel like Capcom really has no idea how to sell the game. Fitting, I suppose.

Posted by Metric_Outlaw

Man I don't know if I've ever been this disappointed with a game before. I loved 4 to death and genuinely enjoyed 5 but hearing how broken this is is really upsetting to me.

Posted by Yummylee

@iAmJohn: They've been setting that sorta tone across the marketing for a while; the whole ''No Hope Left'' theme in particular has been dragged along since close to the very beginning. And yeah, it doesn't match the majority of RE6's story at all. There are some notably grim moments, one especially during Chris' ending, but otherwise it's action hero quips, explosions everywhere, and a slimy naked woman who likes to feel herself up every so often.

What's also ironic is the endings are all sunshine and rainbows across all of the campaigns... Not exactly in line with No Hope Left.
Posted by Napalm

Man, this review is a goddamn monster. Clearly Brad had a ton to say.

@MURDERSMASH said:

@duke1gears0 said:

Whatever, I like RE6

That's fine. It's OK to like bad games.

Unless you're being sarcastic, taking this attitude to somebody simply saying they enjoy this game is a real dick move, and you should probably stop.

Posted by DrWhat

@iAmJohn: oh, is that how you find reviews? Thanks for investing the effort in making that link for me.

Brad was ready to throw his controller through the television and hated his life for 30 hours, if you go by I Love Mondays, the QL, and the Bombcast. If that's not "fundamentally abhorrent" to Brad, does it actually have to punch him in the nuts?

Posted by MURDERSMASH

@Napalm said:

Unless you're being sarcastic, taking this attitude to somebody simply saying they enjoy this game is a real dick move, and you should probably stop.

I'm being serious. People can like and enjoy games, even where they're bad. There's nothing insulting, condescending, or sarcastic about that.

Look at Sonic Unleashed. That game has a million problems, yet I put in 30 hours of game time, and had a blast doing so. I can recognize that i'm enjoying a game when it is, in fact, not of high quality. More people need to do the same, and not get their jimmies all rustled when someone says a game they like isn't any good.

Posted by Judge_Dredd

@MURDERSMASH: Quality of games and entertainment really is subjective. Somebody can consider RE6 a good game and there's no way to say they're wrong as a fact. Everyone has different taste.

Edited by vinsanityv22

I don't understand why RE6 is being targeted for these flaws when they're prevalent in overrated dreck like Dead Space 2 as well. God I hate Dead Space. It too is well produced, but a complete mess. There's absolutely no scares or tension. It's just a clunky action game where the lights flicker on and off a lot. But man - the 5 star reviews and praise couldn't come fast enough for EA's awkward shooter.

I'm not arguing with Brad's review of RE6. I'm sure everything he says is true - Brad backs up everything he says with plenty of examples, and Capcom is sort of a mess these days anyway. They don't know what to do with Mega Man, or Resident Evil, or anything else they're doing at the moment it seems (except for, like, DmC). All I'm saying is that people tend to turn a blind eye to other games that do the same shit. It's frustrating. I can't believe Brad mentioned Infamous and Dead Space in the same breath up there, when one's buttery smooth and responsive and the other... well the other is Dead Space.

Even Conan O'Brien could sense that this was a bit of a mess. In his words, "Zombie genre should be simple; see zombie, kill zombie". This definitely deserved the 35 he gave it ;)

Oh well, at least I can pick up RE: Revelations.

Posted by pw2566ch

@kerse said:

I hope Japan doesn't keep up this trend. If they want to use things that are in popular western games they need to understand why those things are fun, or not fun. Just because qte's are in some really popular titles over here, doesn't mean we like them. In fact I think almost all of us hate them unless they're used sparingly. I loved Asura's Wrath but I feel like its an exception.

I don't know if I'm in the minority but I want the scary back in "survival horror" games, is it just hard to make a game scary?

Actually, I think Japan should keep doing what they're doing. I mean, not this of course, but most of what they do the entirety of their Asian market love it. That's why their TV shows, commercials, and movies are mostly different than what we have. This is why JRPG's are still around.

Posted by Delta_Ass

@bigstrat2003 said:

@neoepoch said:

I'd say the Stars Wars prequels are way better than this game. Take that as you will.

I think the Star Wars prequels are good, and I don't care how many people disagree. Episode 3 was by far the best in the series, and even episode 1 (the worst in the series) was still a fun-ass movie.

It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on.

Posted by Brad

@Delta_Ass said:

@bigstrat2003 said:

@neoepoch said:

I'd say the Stars Wars prequels are way better than this game. Take that as you will.

I think the Star Wars prequels are good, and I don't care how many people disagree. Episode 3 was by far the best in the series, and even episode 1 (the worst in the series) was still a fun-ass movie.

It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on.

What's wrong with your FACE

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Posted by FlappyHands

I trust your judgement, Mr. Shoemaker. By all means I'll give the game a look and see what's going on but yeah... I have a feeling I won't like it, and that is sad.

Posted by BananaofDoom

@Brad:There are two kinds of people, those who have seen Plinkett's reviews, and those who haven't.

Posted by Delta_Ass

@Brad said:

@Delta_Ass said:

@bigstrat2003 said:

@neoepoch said:

I'd say the Stars Wars prequels are way better than this game. Take that as you will.

I think the Star Wars prequels are good, and I don't care how many people disagree. Episode 3 was by far the best in the series, and even episode 1 (the worst in the series) was still a fun-ass movie.

It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on.

What's wrong with your FACE

You want a pizza roll?

Posted by Brad

@vinsanityv22 said:

I don't understand why RE6 is being targeted for these flaws when they're prevalent in overrated dreck like Dead Space 2 as well. God I hate Dead Space. It too is well produced, but a complete mess. There's absolutely no scares or tension. It's just a clunky action game where the lights flicker on and off a lot. But man - the 5 star reviews and praise couldn't come fast enough for EA's awkward shooter.

I'm not arguing with Brad's review of RE6. I'm sure everything he says is true - Brad backs up everything he says with plenty of examples, and Capcom is sort of a mess these days anyway. They don't know what to do with Mega Man, or Resident Evil, or anything else they're doing at the moment it seems (except for, like, DmC). All I'm saying is that people tend to turn a blind eye to other games that do the same shit. It's frustrating. I can't believe Brad mentioned Infamous and Dead Space in the same breath up there, when one's buttery smooth and responsive and the other... well the other is Dead Space.

Even Conan O'Brien could sense that this was a bit of a mess. In his words, "Zombie genre should be simple; see zombie, kill zombie". This definitely deserved the 35 he gave it ;)

Oh well, at least I can pick up RE: Revelations.

It's one thing if you don't like what Dead Space is going for, but calling it a "complete mess" is completely dishonest. It does what it does extremely well. If it's not to your taste, it's fine, but RE6 is fucked up in very fundamental ways that Dead Space can't even imagine. Let's be realistic here.

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Posted by falserelic

O shit! its that Big Budget Disaster baby Evil Residents sicks....

Posted by MURDERSMASH

@Judge_Dredd said:

@MURDERSMASH: Quality of games and entertainment really is subjective. Somebody can consider RE6 a good game and there's no way to say they're wrong as a fact. Everyone has different taste.

There's a difference between liking something, and that something being "good", and that's what i'm trying to point out. I totally agree that everyone has different tastes. But when Brad points out basic design and gameplay issues that disrupt the experience in many ways, all signs begin pointing to the game being of poor quality. Some people can overlook those issues and still have a good time, and that's totally cool. But that doesn't mean those issues aren't still there.

That's why I brought up Sonic Unleashed. The Werehog was among the worst design decisions Sonic Team has ever made for the Sonic franchise. It's slow, clunky, and monotonous. Yet I was able to look past that and have a good time, but I can still see the problems there. Sonic Unleashed is BAD. But that's OK with me, because I still have a good time playing it. I wouldn't go recommending it to non-Sonic people, and I feel the same way about RE6 right now. It's bad, and shouldn't be recommended to anyone other than the hardcore fans who are willing to look past all of the design and game-play issues because they just want to be in RE's world.

Posted by Nomin

One of the most polarizing mainstream game critically in recent memory. From all the videos of the game I have watched, the most rewarding way of playing the game is through co-op. If that is your main concern, one can do worse than picking up this game.

Posted by spankingaddict

Can't we all get along ?!

Agree to disagree ...

Posted by Knives
Resident Evil 6 may be the most lavishly produced bad game in history.

I think you mean Diablo III. 5 stars!

Posted by Delta_Ass

@vinsanityv22 said:

I don't understand why RE6 is being targeted for these flaws when they're prevalent in overrated dreck like Dead Space 2 as well. God I hate Dead Space. It too is well produced, but a complete mess. There's absolutely no scares or tension. It's just a clunky action game where the lights flicker on and off a lot. But man - the 5 star reviews and praise couldn't come fast enough for EA's awkward shooter.

I'm not arguing with Brad's review of RE6. I'm sure everything he says is true - Brad backs up everything he says with plenty of examples, and Capcom is sort of a mess these days anyway. They don't know what to do with Mega Man, or Resident Evil, or anything else they're doing at the moment it seems (except for, like, DmC). All I'm saying is that people tend to turn a blind eye to other games that do the same shit. It's frustrating. I can't believe Brad mentioned Infamous and Dead Space in the same breath up there, when one's buttery smooth and responsive and the other... well the other is Dead Space.

Even Conan O'Brien could sense that this was a bit of a mess. In his words, "Zombie genre should be simple; see zombie, kill zombie". This definitely deserved the 35 he gave it ;)

Oh well, at least I can pick up RE: Revelations.

I don't understand this at all. First of all, Dead Space is not clunky at all compared to Resident Evil 4 and 5. For god's sake, you couldn't even move and shoot in those games. Dead Space actually lets you move and shoot, which is great.

Secondly, while DS1 might feel a little clunky compared to other third person shooters, it at least made sense because you were in a big, heavy, restrictive environmental suit. The game's fiction actually supported the slow, limiting movements. Resident Evil has no such excuse. You're not in a clunky armored suit, you're Leon Kennedy dressed in a leather jacket and jeans. There's no reason why the controls suck in those RE games. It's bullshit.

Posted by Napalm

@MURDERSMASH said:

More people need to do the same, and not get their jimmies all rustled when someone says a game they like isn't any good.

Sorry, but your subjective feelings on a piece of entertainment isn't an overarching objective fact. That's not how opinions work.

Posted by depecheload

@lordofultima said:

@jasius said:

So its Aliens 3 of gaming?

You shut up, Alien 3 was great. It took a lot of the tension of alien, and some action from aliens.

The problem with Alien 3 is that it's a pretty good movie. It's just a shit sequel to Aliens.

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Posted by bkbroiler

@Knives said:

Resident Evil 6 may be the most lavishly produced bad game in history.

I think you mean Diablo III. 5 stars!

Say what you want about how disappointing D3 game is, it is anything but bad or poorly made.