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Posted by vonFlampanker

Disappointed they couldn't eek out one more star's worth of quality for this, but I'll probably still get it. Maybe wait till it's cheaper.

Posted by JesterPC238

I'm still only a few hours in, but I'm really enjoying Liberation. I think it's too bad that people are waiting on one specific game to "justify" the purchase of a Vita. I totally get that many simply can't afford it, but if you have the scratch and are on the fence I'd say you should just go ahead and pull the trigger. The system feels fantastic in your hands and while there may not be any jaw dropping, mind blowing experiences for it, there are a dozen or so very solid titles that are a lot of fun to play.

I think we are reaching something of an "uncanny valley" with Vita where the games are so close to their console counterparts that we are less willing to forgive the faults they have. Liberation is a perfect example of this, it's probably one of the best handheld games I've played all year, but when you compare it to AC2, Brotherhood, or AC3 it doesn't seem as outstanding. All the same, it's a must buy if you already like Assassin's Creed, and totally worth picking up if you have some interest, just know it's a little light on story and presentation compared to the console games.

Posted by Dark_Lord_Spam

I once said of the PSP: "Why would I buy a smaller version of my PS2 to play shittier PS2 games on?" I'll admit to wondering if the Vita is already a failure.

Edited by ozzdog12

I like it, I'd give it a 4 out of 5. I just dont think its possible to get a 'console' experience on handles. AC3:L is a great portable game even with its fault( much like the console game

Posted by Enigma777

I just finished the 3rd act. Really wish the colors weren't so washed out.  
 
Also I don't know if it's just me, but it feels like Aveline is constantly running through molasses. Almost like bad framerate, but it's not bad framerate since the camera spins freely without a hitch.

Posted by Rabid619

I am a HUGE fan of the Assassin's Creed series, but unfortunately I have to agree with this. I'm not sure how far I'm in, but I just finished Chapter Four and just keep waiting for it to pick up, to get better, but sadly I don't think it will.

There are some really great things going on, and I am surprised at how well the base controls work on the system, but there are too many incredibly stupid things going on as well. Between bad touch screen implentation, bad puzzles, and that god damn "point your Vita at a light source" BS that never actually seems to work properly, I'm finding myself frustrated far too frequently.

It breaks my heart to say it, but this game is disappointingly mediocre up to this point.

Posted by toddacoco40

I am enjoying this game a great deal. While there is nothing revolutionary in the game play, rarely have we seen such a well crafted game on Sony's handheld system.

If you are and assassin's creed fan and have a Vita this is a recommended buy in my opinion. It controls as you expect and I personally hope we see more games of this type.

Sometimes you just want a good game for your handheld to play on the road. This will keep me happy with my Vita purchase, and entertain me for my holiday travel season.

Posted by OG10

I was looking forward to this game too.. guess i'll wait till this hits the bargain bucket :(

Posted by MikkaQ

@AmericanNinja said:

@louiedog said:

@AmericanNinja said:

Dont listen to reviews. Buy the game and play it for yourselves.

Don't listen to the carefully and thoughtfully written opinions of people who have shared their thoughts on a ton of other similar products which helps give you an idea of where they're coming from. Instead, listen to some guy on the internet who can't even bother to tell you what's good about the thing that he recommends.

I didn't recommend the game at all. What I'm saying is, play the game for yourself and form your own opinion about the game, instead of relying on someone else to do it for you. That's the main thing hurting the industry today is any type of "scored" reviews.

I think blindly buying video games is even more harmful to the industry. It tells publishers that we don't give a shit and they can make any amount of crap and we'll still buy it.

Posted by MusiM

Technical limitations are never a good excuse to make a not so great game. Ubisoft has a track record of making bad Assassin's Creed games for the hand helds. In my personal opinion, no one should have expected differently here. We're talking about a studio that makes yearly iterations of their game on console. If you look a the track record, AC2 and Brothergood are fantastic. AC1 and Revelations are not. Reaction to AC3 seems to be middle of the road. Judging the PSV on the performance of Liberation seems premature.

Posted by geirr

@Sooty said:

@geirr said:

If I already had a Vita I'd get this but I still can't justify the console's purchase in my budget. Hopefully they'll port it to the appstores at some point.

Playing Assassins Creed on a controller is janky enough, I don't want to imagine how this would be on a touchscreen.

Haha, no that'd be a nightmare. Hopefully in this "dream version" they'd "re-imagine" the controls and.. well screw it, I just want to see the story really and maybe stab a dude here and there.

Posted by Bobtoad1

Not intending to purchase a Vita, i don't think i'll be playing this anytime in the near future, despite being a big Assassin's Creed fan.

That being said, it does make me a little sad that the game isn't a knockout. I just feel like this game being on a very thinly distributed platform, from a relatively niche franchise (for AAA titles anyway) isn't going to do well, and the end result is someone somewhere in a giant, mindless publishing house points to this and goes "Look, games without white male heroes don't sell".

Posted by probablytuna

Hmm, this is a shame, I was kinda looking forward to it.

Posted by Rox360
@AmericanNinja said:

@louiedog said:

@AmericanNinja said:

Dont listen to reviews. Buy the game and play it for yourselves.

Don't listen to the carefully and thoughtfully written opinions of people who have shared their thoughts on a ton of other similar products which helps give you an idea of where they're coming from. Instead, listen to some guy on the internet who can't even bother to tell you what's good about the thing that he recommends.

I didn't recommend the game at all. What I'm saying is, play the game for yourself and form your own opinion about the game, instead of relying on someone else to do it for you. That's the main thing hurting the industry today is any type of "scored" reviews.

I'm curious. How do you decide what games you want to buy? How much money do you spend on games every month, and how many games that you buy do you actually enjoy and/or finish?
Posted by MrKlorox

Damnit, stop changing the image for this review on the home page. I keep getting fooled into thinking this is the review for the actual game, not the impossible-to-be-good handheld version.

Posted by criacow

@Vao said:

Hmm, was really hoping this was going to be a mine blowing experiences so i could justify buying a vita finally,

Same here. If there's a good Black Friday special on the Vita, I might finally give in...but feeling less motivated now. Too bad.

Posted by EverydayOdyssey

I literally just finished the game, and, frankly, Alex is right. The game is just ... okay.

Posted by Addfwyn

@SupberUber: I think Ragnorak Odyssey just came out stateside, I'd pick that one up right away if you're looking for Vita stuff.

Posted by SupberUber

OMG! TEHBIAS! Alex in cahoots with Microshaft! Seriously though. Shame that Ubi didn't find a fitting formula, as the Vita needs all the good games it can get. I won't gamble on this one, as I got burned when I ignored the NFS Most Wanted reviews. That game is in serious need of life and atmosphere. Avoid!

Posted by Addfwyn

Seems a fair score from somebody who doesn't like the AC franchise. If you already like AC, I'd recommend Liberation. It's a solid entry into the series for people looking for something to play on their Vita (though so much stuff is out lately that there may be a lot of competition).

However, if you don't like AC already, like Alex, then this score seems totally reasonable. This is NOT going to be the title that makes somebody change their mind on the franchise whatsoever.

Edited by Vao

Hmm, was really hoping this was going to be a mind blowing experiences so i could justify buying a vita finally,

Posted by Little_Socrates

@AmericanNinja said:

@louiedog said:

@AmericanNinja said:

Dont listen to reviews. Buy the game and play it for yourselves.

Don't listen to the carefully and thoughtfully written opinions of people who have shared their thoughts on a ton of other similar products which helps give you an idea of where they're coming from. Instead, listen to some guy on the internet who can't even bother to tell you what's good about the thing that he recommends.

I didn't recommend the game at all. What I'm saying is, play the game for yourself and form your own opinion about the game, instead of relying on someone else to do it for you. That's the main thing hurting the industry today is any type of "scored" reviews.

Reviews still matter, regardless of score, and scores are a fine little shorthand to center the thoughts of the writer. Unless you've got the funds and time to play literally every game that comes out in a year, reviews are still important. I'm maybe buying two games this month. I'd rather they be good and match the things I'm looking for in a game. NFS: Most Wanted reviews have been super-helpful to me by telling me "this game is deeper in multiplayer than singleplayer" so that I know not to buy it at $60 because I play racing games solo. Meanwhile, Halo 4 has a slightly weak campaign, so I'll play it with my buddy and worry about the multiplayer later.

Reviews aren't about forming the user's opinion about a game, they're about recommendations on where to spend our money, and (perhaps more importantly) our time.

Posted by algertman

@AmericanNinja said:

Dont listen to reviews. Buy the game and play it for yourselves.

It would involve me buying a Vita. So no.

Posted by Sooty

@geirr said:

If I already had a Vita I'd get this but I still can't justify the console's purchase in my budget. Hopefully they'll port it to the appstores at some point.

Playing Assassins Creed on a controller is janky enough, I don't want to imagine how this would be on a touchscreen.

Posted by SoothsayerGB

@Canteu said:

I saw this and thought it was the AC3 review.

Posted by Grimhild

I kind of want to play this even though I don't own a Vita, since I actually have Creole blood in my family. Kind of funny with the whole plot device of them selling it as "This is YOUR ancestor, consumer!" and them I'm all... "I know, Ubisoft/Abstergo!"

Posted by AmericanNinja

@louiedog said:

@AmericanNinja said:

Dont listen to reviews. Buy the game and play it for yourselves.

Don't listen to the carefully and thoughtfully written opinions of people who have shared their thoughts on a ton of other similar products which helps give you an idea of where they're coming from. Instead, listen to some guy on the internet who can't even bother to tell you what's good about the thing that he recommends.

I didn't recommend the game at all. What I'm saying is, play the game for yourself and form your own opinion about the game, instead of relying on someone else to do it for you. That's the main thing hurting the industry today is any type of "scored" reviews.

Posted by mutha3
@louiedog said:

@dropabombonit said:

Good review Alex, seems spot on from what I heard of from my friend who is playing it. Also where is the AC3 review? Ryan has been super lazy with reviews of late

I've seen a bunch of people on twitter complaining about problems with quest bugs. Maybe he's running into similar issues that are slowing him down.

He said on TNT that he finished the game.
Posted by ICantBeStopped

Score seems low for the experience I'm having

Posted by louiedog

@AmericanNinja said:

Dont listen to reviews. Buy the game and play it for yourselves.

Don't listen to the carefully and thoughtfully written opinions of people who have shared their thoughts on a ton of other similar products which helps give you an idea of where they're coming from. Instead, listen to some guy on the internet who can't even bother to tell you what's good about the thing that he recommends.

Posted by TwistedGamer

This game is awesome. A 3 seems low IMO

Posted by louiedog

@dropabombonit said:

Good review Alex, seems spot on from what I heard of from my friend who is playing it. Also where is the AC3 review? Ryan has been super lazy with reviews of late

I've seen a bunch of people on twitter complaining about problems with quest bugs. Maybe he's running into similar issues that are slowing him down.

Posted by Solh0und

Keep in mind that Alex isn't a big fan of AC though but he gave it a fair score otherwise.

Posted by dragonzord

@AmericanNinja said:

Dont listen to reviews. Buy the game and play it for yourselves.

Going to give me 40 bucks?

Posted by beard_of_zeus

@gaffyh said:

Quick Look?

Probably not. They have no Vita capture gear, so I don't think Vita QLs are a thing at this point.

Posted by beard_of_zeus

@AmericanNinja said:

Dont listen to reviews. Buy the game and play it for yourselves.

If that's the case...then why do we even have reviews? I understand your sentiment to some extent, but if you have a reviewer whose opinions mesh with yours pretty often, and/or you check out reviews from many different places and digest them, and you come to conclusion that a game isn't worth your money, that seems pretty reasonable.

Also, if people have to choose between your 2 sentence (almost non-)opinion, and Alex's well-thought out review, I think the choice is pretty obvious.

Posted by gaffyh

Quick Look?

Posted by nickux

This review reads like a checklist of every problem I'm having with the game. Make no mistake, I am enjoying it more or less but damn Alex nailed all the issues. It's kind of tragic because the game has so much fucking potential and they squander it little by little. I'm currently in Sequence 3 and will no doubt finish the game. It's still a worthwhile addition to the Vita's library, in my opinion, but might not be the homerun I was hoping for. Also, I couldn't help but notice Alex didn't mention the framerate issues. Maybe it's just me but this game seems to chug sometimes. At the very least, the framerate varies wildly in some parts, running through town feels choppy.

Posted by dvorak

@dropabombonit said:

Good review Alex, seems spot on from what I heard of from my friend who is playing it. Also where is the AC3 review? Ryan has been super lazy with reviews of late

ACIII is long as fuck, and there's an incredible amount of stuff to do. Also, I'm pretty sure he only got the game on the Friday before it came out. I'm not saying that's an excuse exactly, but he is a busy guy these days.

Posted by AmericanNinja

Dont listen to reviews. Buy the game and play it for yourselves.

Posted by mattoncybertron

@Reisz said:

I must be the one guy who bought a Vita just for this, I held out until the White bundle was released this week. It's a sad state of affairs but my expectations were always that there would be some compromise.

Nah, I picked this up for my gf's bday. Shes digging it and the game practically comes free if your getting the bundle so its still very much worth getting imo. I've enjoyed a sequence or 2 but a better narrative definitely would've helped, that being said I'm totally still looking forward to playing through it when shes done.

Posted by geirr

This is one of the games I had the highest hopes for this year, damn. Especially interested in how they handled the protagonist's story. Oh well.

If I already had a Vita I'd get this but I still can't justify the console's purchase in my budget. Hopefully they'll port it to the appstores at some point.

Posted by GooieGreen

@JimmyPancakes: I'm sorry, what is there to be condescending about? A game that has some issues on the first round of handheld development from a studio that has no experience making a game for it? Vita owners should be giving you a hug because your need for attention knows no bounds.

Someone liking this game doesn't make them stupid, nor does owning a Vita. Gamers have different thresholds for games and franchises and a review doesn't always change that.

Posted by Questionable
@jayjonesjunior

@Questionable said:

@jayjonesjunior said:

why couldn't they just port the real deal to the vita?

They did not want to taint the main AC line with a inferior product.

ACIII would be allot worse if they tried to bring it to vita, This has been designed for the Vita from the ground up leading to a impressive mimmicking what the big consoles do. Reading the review the game sounds like everything you should expect from a handheld AC game

NFS Most Wanted says otherwise.

The only differences to the console versions are graphical, like number of particles or objects on the screen, refined visuals, etc.

I don't think an approach like that taints the name of a product much more than a generic product like this or Golden Abyss.

I would not call the absence of civilian traffick insignificant in a criterion game. That does significantly impact the fun factor.

Not saying the vita factor is not impressive but it does suffer for trying to be a carbon copy when the hardware just is not there
Posted by dropabombonit

Good review Alex, seems spot on from what I heard of from my friend who is playing it. Also where is the AC3 review? Ryan has been super lazy with reviews of late

Posted by jayjonesjunior

@Questionable said:

@jayjonesjunior said:

why couldn't they just port the real deal to the vita?

They did not want to taint the main AC line with a inferior product.

ACIII would be allot worse if they tried to bring it to vita, This has been designed for the Vita from the ground up leading to a impressive mimmicking what the big consoles do. Reading the review the game sounds like everything you should expect from a handheld AC game

NFS Most Wanted says otherwise.

The only differences to the console versions are graphical, like number of particles or objects on the screen, refined visuals, etc.

I don't think an approach like that taints the name of a product much more than a generic product like this or Golden Abyss.

Posted by JimmyPancakes

I want to hug all the Vita owners that are "enjoying" this game because if they didn't its just another game they'd been hoping to justify their purpose but disappointed. Its going to be okay guys.

Posted by DedBeet

The review seems to indicate that the Vita failed the AC franchise, but I believe the reverse is true. The act of actually playing liberation is mostly fine, aping the console based games fairly well. Sure, the usual Vita only gameplay mechanics (pick pocketing, back touch canoe paddling, ...) are more miss that hit, but combat and world traversal, the hallmarks of AC gameplay, feel not to dissimilar from the console cousins. Where Liberation fails is story. Remember Ezio's development from baby to brash, young hothead to man avenging his family to master assassin in Assassin's Creed 2? Aveline goes from child to assassin with no explanation whatsoever (at least in what i've played so far), leaving her reminding you more of Altaïr, than the now, more famous, Italian counterpart. The game then just jumps into missions that don't seem to be connected in anyway. For some, Aveline is helping her father's business, others, well, I really have no idea where they're headed at this time, leaving me with the feeling that Ubisoft has delivered us with a game where story compromises were made to meet deadlines. I'm curious how many copies of Liberation Ubisoft is predicting to sell since the game doesn't feel like Ubi had much confidence in it. From what I've played, I believe the Vita is more than capable of delivering a solid Assassin's Creed game, Ubisoft just chose not to do so.

Posted by Cold_Wolven

It just feels like there is no 'one' game to make me go out and purchase a Vita since most of the games tend to be average or good, never great. The only thing that would have me buy a Vita at this point would have to be a price drop on the handheld.

Edited by Dan_CiTi

They need to just make a game that is either essentially Assassin's Creed but in the gameplay & graphical shell of either A Link to the Past or Ninja Five-O (with obvious additions to make it more like AC) to make it feel right for portables in my opinion. Getting something like this game is interesting but also pretty depressing.  
 
It is too bad Aveline doesn't get a more fair shot, as she sounds like an awesome assassin. 

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