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Posted by RenegadeSaint

I am not normally a crass person, but my first thought on seeing this was, "Wow, this looks like ass."

Posted by ScreamingFist

maaaaaaaaan, this looks kinda cool except for that horrid framerate!

Edited by ManlyScream

This looks like a direct port of the old ds prequal version with the transformed gimmicks forced through.

Posted by n0nametaz

This game looks terrible on the 3DS.

Edited by Dan_CiTi

@hitchenson said:

@arghron said:

So let me get this right, Brad, you're interested in playing Super Mario Sunshine and yet (I'm pretty sure) you haven't and probably won't play Mario Galaxy (cause you don't own a Wii!??!?!!)!??!?!?! What!?!?!?

Sunshine's better than Galaxy.

Boom.

I love Super Mario Sunshine too. But let's not go nuts.

I would say Sunshine has better core gameplay than Galaxy. The controls are more solid and the movement is much faster and "free" like SM64. Though, as far as level design goes Galaxy reigns far above both, I feel like each have their strengths and are great, fun games. Galaxy probably takes the cake, though. Due 64's dodgy level design, poor camera and then Sunshine's design taking the sort of approach of playgrounds/environments from 64 and stretching it further(which benefits the game, creates a certain atmosphere of Isle Delfino), less of the classic Mario (obstacle) course that they got back to in Galaxy.

Edited by Death_Burnout

I'm crossing my fingers that Brad will play Sunshine and think it's actually pretty alright, because it is!

But lets be realistic, that's not gonna happen

Posted by Amaru25

Sunshine is awesome. Don't hate!

Posted by King9999

We're talking about Sunshine in here? Good game, worth playing. Not better than Galaxy.

Posted by Lindseybee

oh that frame rate.....

Edited by craigymail

This looks proper shit!

Edited by emilknievel

@ghostiet said:

Well, I don't know how's the framerate and visuals because the video constantly drops to 240p without permission and the framerate on the entire video is jacked when I go full screen. So I'll wait until everything is fixed with the player.

You sure you don't have the video settings set to "auto"? Might be the 240p issue.

Edited by emilknievel

@thatdutchguy said:

mario kart 7 looks and plays great so i don't know why this game would have such bad framerate and graphics.

Bad programming

Posted by MachoFantastico

The PC version runs buttery smooth and it's a fun kart racer, shame about this version.

Posted by ch3burashka

@fisk0 said:
@buft said:

@triviaman09 said:

Actually Brad, I had no idea what a framerate was until I starting going to Giant Bomb. Unless it broke the game, I just didn't notice. A bunch of the games I played as a kid probably had horrible framerates.

thats something ive been revisiting recently and i can assuredly say that for me this was definitely correct, some of the games i played as a kid had the framerate of a childrens pop up book but back then i didn;t notice one bit

I played through StarCraft and Tiberian Sun on my 486 back in 1998-99. The framerate was really bad (and I knew it), but you get used to it. They were still playable. And, damn, every polygonal Genesis game had framerates like this, yet plenty of people are quite fond of the odd assortment of military simulations (like LHX Attack Chopper and M1 Abrams Battle Tank) on that system.

The only way you get "used" to it is if you have no alternative. My first computer was pretty shitty, and I downloaded Little Fighter 2, an indie side-scrolling brawler. The frame-rate was literally somewhere between 1 and 2 fps. The only upside was the game speed scaled down as well, making it somewhat playable. I played it bunch, assuming that's how it was supposed to play. Then I saw it on a friend's computer, on which it ran at least 10 times as fast as mine. Ignorance is bliss, as the saying goes, and that revelation was pretty depressing, knowing I was having a sub-sub-sub-par experience.

For a more recent example, the Team ICO Collection was praised for improving the frame rate, as SotC was pushing the PS2 to its limit. I played the PS2 version recently, and while completely playable, it's a mad bummer when the frame rate drops to the same 1-2 fps.

Posted by peritus

I hope Brad will try Mario sunshine, its a really cool game.

Posted by BBQBram

Sunshine was great damnit.

Posted by fisk0
@buft said:

@triviaman09 said:

Actually Brad, I had no idea what a framerate was until I starting going to Giant Bomb. Unless it broke the game, I just didn't notice. A bunch of the games I played as a kid probably had horrible framerates.

thats something ive been revisiting recently and i can assuredly say that for me this was definitely correct, some of the games i played as a kid had the framerate of a childrens pop up book but back then i didn;t notice one bit

I played through StarCraft and Tiberian Sun on my 486 back in 1998-99. The framerate was really bad (and I knew it), but you get used to it. They were still playable. And, damn, every polygonal Genesis game had framerates like this, yet plenty of people are quite fond of the odd assortment of military simulations (like LHX Attack Chopper and M1 Abrams Battle Tank) on that system.

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Posted by jsnyder82

@arghron said:

So let me get this right, Brad, you're interested in playing Super Mario Sunshine and yet (I'm pretty sure) you haven't and probably won't play Mario Galaxy (cause you don't own a Wii!??!?!!)!??!?!?! What!?!?!?

Sunshine's better than Galaxy.

Boom.

I love Super Mario Sunshine too. But let's not go nuts.

Posted by jsnyder82

I'm happy with my Wii U version, awful motion blur be damned.

Posted by ObsideonDarman

It's a shame the performance is shit. I'm sure this would have been awesome if they somehow fixed the frame rate.

Edited by Hitchenson

@arghron said:

So let me get this right, Brad, you're interested in playing Super Mario Sunshine and yet (I'm pretty sure) you haven't and probably won't play Mario Galaxy (cause you don't own a Wii!??!?!!)!??!?!?! What!?!?!?

Sunshine's better than Galaxy.

Boom.

Posted by NowSayPillow

Damned it. I wanted this to be good. I put off buying the other ones for it ...

Edited by LikeaSsur

The truth about Mario Sunshine:

It's great!

Amen. I never knew why people hated it so much.

Edited by sonicrift

Mario Sunshine was a fun game, but everyone wanted another Super Mario 64, so we didn't see it for what it was. I'm ashamed to have never played Luigi's Mansion for the same reason, and can't wait to try Dark Moon. I remember I bought Sunshine at EB because, as I was told, I could buy it for $30, and if I didn't like it, the trade-in value was also $30.

I kept it.

Edited by Ravelle

Games can look amazing on the 3ds but this looks really bad and those framerates, damn.

Edited by TooWalrus

The truth about Mario Sunshine:

It's great!

Posted by Ravelle

PC version runs blisteringly fast and looks gorgeous. Really enjoying it.

Yes, great game and also pretty hard at times.

Posted by Ghostiet

Well, I don't know how's the framerate and visuals because the video constantly drops to 240p without permission and the framerate on the entire video is jacked when I go full screen. So I'll wait until everything is fixed with the player.

Posted by Nilazz

Amazing frame rate.

Edited by Majkiboy

@jjor64 said:

Bummer about this version. Get it on a console or PC. I have the Wii U version and it's great.

Yes The WiiU version is really good!

Posted by bigmess

I'd buy it if John C. Reilly himself was a playable character.

Posted by SaFt

I don't care what anyone says! I love Mario Sunshine.

Posted by MormonWarrior

@ketchupp said:

Gross! And Sunshine was enjoyable. Better than that Galaxy shit IMO.

Did you play Galaxy 2? Because I hated the first Galaxy game, but 2 is really good. They got rid of almost all of the motion control garbage.

Wow did I just read that right? Galaxy 2 had exactly as much motion control stuff as the first one - which is, not much. Just a few rolling ball levels and flying instead of surfing. I mean, I liked Sunshine and all but you guys are talking crazy. Those Galaxy games are about the only redeeming things on the Wii, and they're both among the greatest games in existence. Definitely in the top ten of what Nintendo's ever made, and that's saying something.

Posted by MormonWarrior

Just got the 360 version. Seems pretty nifty, if a little rough around the edges. Now that 3DS version...woof. Just stick with Mario Kart 7.

Posted by zeekthegeek

PC seems to be the place to play this. It actually is pretty good, especially the map design being really dynamic. Plus who doesn't want to play as SEGA's most beloved mascots SHOGUN and FOOTBALL MANAGER.

Edited by SpudBug

@iamjohn: It's more likely a poorly optimized port of the vita version. That would make more sense.

Edited by SpudBug

Too bad, could have been a fun portable version.

Posted by ArbitraryWater

I think Mario Sunshine is... ok. That's about the level of praise I can muster for it. It's not great.

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Posted by TheRealMoot

PC version runs blisteringly fast and looks gorgeous. Really enjoying it.

Posted by FreedomTown

Kids these days and their obsession over framerate. Brad is a framerate nazi.

Posted by Bartman3010

I request for a Transformed TNT.

Posted by Blueblur1

Wow, this looks really bad. I can't believe the game was released in that state. It's supposedly built from the ground up and it looks and performs worse. Goddamn. I suppose that if I ever really get a itch for a portable version, I'll give the Vita version a try.

Posted by DS23

I had a good time with Super Mario Sunshine at the time. Think people malign it unfairly these days.

Posted by prestonhedges

@laxbro19 said:

The console version performs far better.

What a shock!

Posted by Haziqonfire

Okay, well now I know I'll just get it on the Wii U.

Dat frame rate...

Posted by UrmanioGeek

Well that's it, something is really bad at SEGA's HQ because this and the disaster that turned out to be the new ACM ...

Poor SEGA it was a lot better working with HVS than Gearbox ...

Posted by buft

Actually Brad, I had no idea what a framerate was until I starting going to Giant Bomb. Unless it broke the game, I just didn't notice. A bunch of the games I played as a kid probably had horrible framerates.

thats something ive been revisiting recently and i can assuredly say that for me this was definitely correct, some of the games i played as a kid had the framerate of a childrens pop up book but back then i didn;t notice one bit

Posted by laxbro19

this game looks like ass. The console version performs far better. This didn't need to come out.

Posted by Andorski

This game is boss on PC. More people need to play it.

Edited by BuddhasEarlobe

@reaganstein: I agree but he was pimping the site and also they were doing a quicklook of Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed (3DS),

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