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Posted by Dan_CiTi

Braid had a bad art style? What the fuck? Braid is easily one of the best looking games ever made.

Posted by BisonHero

@dedbeet said:

@sless said:

This is one of those episodes where they get weirdly critical and dismissive of a lot of things for no real reason ("This David Cage tech demo is TOO SERIOUS"; "Killzone and Crysis are 'technical achievement: the game'"; "man they talked way too long before each game"; "infamous just doesn't click, generic superhero" etc. etc.). These guys have so much better chemistry and rapport and just are more interesting to listen to when they don't get into cynic mode.

You said it so I don't have to. I'm really struggling trying to get through this podcast.

I sure did love the part where Mark MacDonald argued for like 3 minutes that anybody who didn't get a boner over Deep Down is objectively wrong. Oh wait, no I did not.

Comparison: Jeff Gerstmann is also opinionated as fuck, and will arbitrarily be dismissive of NiGHTS or Red Dead Redemption or whatever, but he manages to make his point in about 30 seconds, and if anybody disagrees, he just goes "Psssssssssh", then the podcast ACTUALLY MOVES ON.

Mark just constantly tries to berate anyone who disagrees with him (basically any of the guys; Hiroko bails on episodes so quickly and is so agreeable I don't think they've ever argued), and it spirals into this 3-5 minute argument that sounds like it is between two 15-year-olds.

He is basically a terrible host, in that he is the most likely of all of them to completely derail the podcast, and all for a stupid, petty point that he refuses to give up until his "opponent" relents, or someone has the good sense to point out how stupid the argument is because Mark himself is terrible at coming to this realization.

Edited by Undeadpool

@conduitfoursale said:

Big 8-4 and PS3/PS4 fan and I had to turn this slurp-fest off about 1/3 of the way through. I think that these guys are way out of touch on what most gamers want.

I have no idea what you're talking about. The talk was great.

My advice: try not to get pissed off just because someone doesn't share your opinion.

But it's so safe and warm in the echo chamber...

Edited by Peanut

Dudes have way too much faith in most of the announced features of the PS4 actually working.

Posted by Duffyside

These kind of blow-out podcasts are the best. Gonna be a fun year.

Posted by sprsk

@mrfluke: Aha! I see it. I'll give brendon the proper flogging later.

Edited by DedBeet

@sless said:

This is one of those episodes where they get weirdly critical and dismissive of a lot of things for no real reason ("This David Cage tech demo is TOO SERIOUS"; "Killzone and Crysis are 'technical achievement: the game'"; "man they talked way too long before each game"; "infamous just doesn't click, generic superhero" etc. etc.). These guys have so much better chemistry and rapport and just are more interesting to listen to when they don't get into cynic mode.

You said it so I don't have to. I'm really struggling trying to get through this podcast.

Posted by Laiv162560asse

'Big British Castle' was used by British presenters Adam & Joe as a jokey was of referring to the BBC in most of their radio shows. I'm pretty sure that's where your intern (forgot his name, sorry) picked it up.

Adam & Joe are amazing FWIW. Their podcasts, BBC and XFM radio shows are well worth digging around for and checking out. They've also done two TV series, including 'Adam & Joe Go Tokyo', where they indulged their interest in Japan, so there's some overlap with 8-4 Play.

Posted by Curufinwe

@doe3879 said:

Where's the Dark Souls cast : (

REtrospective part 2 should happen first.

Edited by paulunga

I don't care about backwards compatibility anymore. I used to until I realized that 1) I still have my PS2 and Dreamcast and 2) I rarely go back to playing those old games and there are almost no PS3 games I'm interested in re-visiting.

Edit: You should've shit on David Cage more. Worst thing to ever happen to videogames. Like a somehow more pretentious Molyneux.

Edited by RaidenMitsuru

First off Mark, CHICK FIL A waffel fries molest the hell out of anything that In N Out makes nowadays. It was a lot better 10 years ago. I feel MOSS Burger in Japan is much MUCH better!

Also the analog port on the back of the PS4 is going to be the same AV port we have had since the PS1.

Posted by Sless

This is one of those episodes where they get weirdly critical and dismissive of a lot of things for no real reason ("This David Cage tech demo is TOO SERIOUS"; "Killzone and Crysis are 'technical achievement: the game'"; "man they talked way too long before each game"; "infamous just doesn't click, generic superhero" etc. etc.). These guys have so much better chemistry and rapport and just are more interesting to listen to when they don't get into cynic mode.

Edited by development

Good 'cast, but saying you don't understand people's awe for Deep Down is craaaazy. It shows just how amazing games could look on this platform (IF any of that is actually possible).

Posted by darkmagus517

Pretty awesome episode. Looks like I have another podcast to subscribe to.

Edited by CptBedlam

@conduitfoursale said:

Big 8-4 and PS3/PS4 fan and I had to turn this slurp-fest off about 1/3 of the way through. I think that these guys are way out of touch on what most gamers want.

I have no idea what you're talking about. The talk was great.

My advice: try not to get pissed off just because someone doesn't share your opinion.

Posted by ConduitFourSale

Big 8-4 and PS3/PS4 fan and I had to turn this slurp-fest off about 1/3 of the way through. I think that these guys are way out of touch on what most gamers want.

Edited by Brackynews
@happypup70 said:

This is my first time listening I want to know who you are before I care about what you think!

Open thy heart and thou shalt be converted to a disciple of the Gaming Jesus.

@walter_sobchak: Fair enough, but just pretend it's playing from side B. ;) All the best players I owned were auto-reverse.

Posted by Rhombus_Of_Terror

@doe3879 said:

Where's the Dark Souls cast : (

Yeah I'm waiting for that one too (I secretly hope they also get epicnamebro for it too)

Posted by megalowho

Good show this week, MGS must have been a fun project. And finally, no more eight-four in the drop down! Truly a momentous occasion.

Posted by Seb
Posted by dropabombonit

I'm all in on the PS4 hype train and I was not for buying one before the event

Posted by WMoyer83

What is this PS4 I have heard so much about??

Edited by punkxblaze

"That just further shows that this isn't a huge jump that they can release a game for both the ps3 and ps4."

Uh, what? That was standard practice between the xbox/xbox360 and Ps2/Ps3 for the first few months, too. There's been precedent for cross-generation games in the beginning of a cycle.

Posted by mrfluke

hey correction guys, cyber connect was on the developer wall

Posted by happypup70

Hey you guys are great but you need to remember to introduce yourselves every time. I don't know who you are. Listen to the GiantBomb.com podcast. They don't speak until they are introduced, usually. This is my first time listening I want to know who you are before I care about what you think!

Posted by Dan_CiTi

@matoyak said:

@mewarmo990 said:

@mcghee said:

I still haven't figured out who these people are and why they are on Giant Bomb.

Ditto. Although I think it's worth having more Japanese games discussion on GB than there is now, this podcast is not at all cohesive with the rest of the site.

They're friends of people on the site (most notably Patrick, I believe) and were brought in to cover a niche that isn't covered on the rest of the site: Japanese games, and Japanese things. They are a group of translators who started out as Journalists/Critics here in the West, and made their way East for the translation gig.

They're the best japanese focused podcast around. Don't worry, they don't take any effort from CoD or Halo. They, like, do their own thing.

Actually there's a video feature of theirs on Giant Bomb (Brad visited them when GB was last in Japan), and they are on Giant Bomb because they needed a new host for their podcast.

Edited by Erunamo

@walter_sobchak said:

Hey guys, I wouldn't expect anyone to know this, but the sprockets on the fake cassette are going in the wrong direction if it is supposed to look like it's playing while we're listening... Cassette tapes play from the left reel and spool up on the right reel...

Naw man, you see, every podcast is a B-side, so it's all in order...

But seriously, it bugs me too.

Edited by doe3879

Where's the Dark Souls cast : (

Posted by hollyw00t

Was so anxious for a podcast post-Playstation Metting'o'ganza, and 8-4 delivered. Thank you.

Posted by evanbower

@mcghee said:

I still haven't figured out who these people are and why they are on Giant Bomb.

It is truly an unanswerable question. The kind of mystery surrounding these guys is unparalleled as far as I can tell. As we speak I'm in a darkened library scanning microfiche for a clue, a name, anything!

Oh, wait.. I found something.

Edited by ExplodeMode

After Deep Down, I played a little bit of Dragon's Dogma. It looks terrible to me now, in comparison. The jump is huge.

I hope it isn't the Matrix or whatever - I want full on Dogma Souls, too. I don't want future Assassins Creed garbage. I don't even want a bunch of menus or much UI. I don't want quest logs or markers. I just want, 'You're in this dungeon. Go.'

The Kenji Eno section -- You guys seem like you really cared and weren't just doing lip service. That was nice to hear.

Edited by Christoffer

@matoyak said:

@mewarmo990 said:

@mcghee said:

I still haven't figured out who these people are and why they are on Giant Bomb.

Ditto. Although I think it's worth having more Japanese games discussion on GB than there is now, this podcast is not at all cohesive with the rest of the site.

They're friends of people on the site (most notably Patrick, I believe) and were brought in to cover a niche that isn't covered on the rest of the site: Japanese games, and Japanese things. They are a group of translators who started out as Journalists/Critics here in the West, and made their way East for the translation gig.

They're the best japanese focused podcast around. Don't worry, they don't take any effort from CoD or Halo. They, like, do their own thing.

Posted by Matoyak

@mcghee said:

I still haven't figured out who these people are and why they are on Giant Bomb.

Ditto. Although I think it's worth having more Japanese games discussion on GB than there is now, this podcast is not at all cohesive with the rest of the site.

They're friends of people on the site (most notably Patrick, I believe) and were brought in to cover a niche that isn't covered on the rest of the site: Japanese games, and Japanese things. They are a group of translators who started out as Journalists/Critics here in the West, and made their way East for the translation gig.

Edited by CptBedlam

So I read 8-4 worked on the localization of Metal Gear Rising. If so, great work! I love the cutscenes and the codec conversations (which in my opinion are even better than in most actual MGS games). Cheers. Great episode as well, btw.

@deusx said:

It's getting tougher and tougher hearing this guys talk about video games. Their japanese sensibilities are transforming into cringe fests. But whatever, I still enjoy what they have to say.

What are you talking about? I'm German and haven't noticed anything cringeworthy? Also, you don't know awkward and cringeworthy until you listen to Weekend Confirmed. :P

Posted by Vexxan

There's no time for hype train, go ALL CAPS!

Edited by Draxyle

Man that Square-Enix presentation angered me too. What arrogance and tone-deafness that they would come overseas just to waste our time with a tech demo we've all already seen over half a year ago. I have to wonder how they got that far without anyone internally questioning what they were doing. They can't just throw the Final Fantasy name at us and expect us to care anymore with how they've treated the name.

All they did with that conference segment was confirm my suspicions that they're still beyond help.

But great podcast guys and gal!

Posted by ArbitraryWater
@deusx said:

It's getting tougher and tougher hearing this guys talk about video games. Their japanese sensibilities are transforming into cringe fests. But whatever, I still enjoy what they have to say.

They do live in Japan and make a living translating games from (and occasionally to) Japanese. Every time I listen to this podcast I go in with the assumption that I'm going to zone out whenever they start talking about Monster Hunter or some other game that either hasn't come out in the west (The entirety of their discussion about Dragon Quest X a few months back was painful to be sure). It only really annoys me when they get into weird closeminded fanboy territory, which is balanced out by whenever the phrase "E3 HYPE TRAIN" is uttered.

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Posted by mewarmo990

@mcghee said:

I still haven't figured out who these people are and why they are on Giant Bomb.

Ditto. Although I think it's worth having more Japanese games discussion on GB than there is now, this podcast is not at all cohesive with the rest of the site.

Posted by Cirdain
Edited by Deusx

It's getting tougher and tougher hearing this guys talk about video games. Their japanese sensibilities are transforming into cringe fests. But whatever, I still enjoy what they have to say.

Edited by selfconfessedcynic

My first ep, and so far? I actually like these guys!

Nice show - will listen to more after I finish recording stuff today.

Posted by JohnnytheFuture
Posted by McGhee

I still haven't figured out who these people are and why they are on Giant Bomb.

Edited by CrimsonJester

Are people afraid to say they like something? It feels like so many podcast members feel they have to take the hipster route of only liking obscure "only we know" things.

Oh and favorite quote.. "I don't want to be too cynical." The whole podcast is cynical.

Edited by walter_sobchak

Hey guys, I wouldn't expect anyone to know this, but the sprockets on the fake cassette are going in the wrong direction if it is supposed to look like it's playing while we're listening... Cassette tapes play from the left reel and spool up on the right reel...

Posted by Brackynews
Posted by chocolaterhinovampire

Awesome

Edited by Oscar__Explosion

A Japanese gaming podcast talking about In-n-out. This is great.

Posted by Oscar__Explosion
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