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Posted by MariachiMacabre

MENTAL HEALTH THERAPY IS SLAVERY.

Posted by JasonR86
Edited by Yummylee

You're full of shit and therapy is bullshit and you suck and nener nener... Gosh, I'm witty.

Anywhoo cheers for this, it was an informative read. So do you specialise for a certain age group? I went through therapy sessions when I was about 17, but if it were to continue whence I hit 18, I would have had to move on to a different therapist. Just curious if there's then different training provided for specifically seeing children, or people of old age ect.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, how come you prefer not to hand out homework inbetween sessions?

And finally, have you ever had any clients that suffer from sociopathic tendencies and the like?

Edited by Wrighteous86

You're glib. You're being glib.

Edited by MariachiMacabre

All dumb comments making fun of dumb Tom Cruise and his dumb anti-mental therapy cult aside, you do good work, sir! And this was an informative read.

Posted by Demoskinos

You're glib. You're being glib.

I wonder if ANYONE is going to get that reference. I got a chuckle out of it though.

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Posted by Blu3V3nom07

How about I just PM something?

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Posted by MariachiMacabre

@wrighteous86 said:

You're glib. You're being glib.

I wonder if ANYONE is going to get that reference. I got a chuckle out of it though.

I got it! I best be getting a prize, motherfucker.

Posted by TheHumanDove
Edited by JasonR86

@yummylee said:

You're full of shit and therapy is bullshit and you suck and nener nener... Gosh, I'm witty.

Anywhoo cheers for this, it was an informative read. So do you specialise for a certain age group? I went through therapy sessions when I was about 17, but if it were to continue whence I hit 18, I would have had to move on to a different therapist. Just curious if there's then different training provided for specifically seeing children, or people of old age ect.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, how come you prefer not to hand out homework inbetween sessions?

And finally, have you ever had any clients that suffer from sociopathic tendencies and the like?

Thanks man. I prefer working with adults 18 and up. But I've worked with kids as young as 8 and have done assessments with kids as young as two. There's a different set of skills when working with kids versus adults just like there's different skills working with psychotic disorders versus mood disorders. And some agencies only have therapist who specialize in only working with kids or adults. I do both.

I don't like giving homework because I can't think of a way of doing it without it feeling forced. Plus it feels like me telling the client what to do to get better. I would prefer that people create their own homework on their own naturally through our conversations. Which is usually what happens. So we get the same effect but I don't have to be a teacher.

I have worked with client who have had pretty big criminal records with all ranges of crimes. Pretty violent ones. Ones I can't get into. I also don't like using words like 'sociopath' because it feels blaming to me. It also sort of ignores context rather focusing on what is 'wrong' with a person and why they are broken and whatnot. But if I were to use that word, then yes I've worked with people like that.

You're glib. You're being glib.

Glib is my middle name.

All dumb comments making fun of dumb Tom Cruise and his dumb anti-mental therapy cult aside, you do good work, sir! And this was an informative read.

Thanks man!

Posted by MariachiMacabre

@jasonr86 said:
@mariachimacabre said:

All dumb comments making fun of dumb Tom Cruise and his dumb anti-mental therapy cult aside, you do good work, sir! And this was an informative read.

Thanks man!

D...don't make this weird.

Posted by JasonR86

@wrighteous86 said:

You're glib. You're being glib.

I wonder if ANYONE is going to get that reference. I got a chuckle out of it though.

I totally didn't get it.

How about I just PM something?

Go ahead dude.

Posted by JasonR86

@jasonr86 said:
@mariachimacabre said:

All dumb comments making fun of dumb Tom Cruise and his dumb anti-mental therapy cult aside, you do good work, sir! And this was an informative read.

Thanks man!

D...don't make this weird.

Take off your pants. You know, for therapy.

Posted by DarthOrange

lol

Posted by JasonR86

lol

I'm kind of like the Citizen Kane of mental health.

Posted by believer258

Yes. Why are you such a dick?

A more serious question: What seems to be the most common thing you treat?

Another: Is depression something that people fall into and out of all the time, or can people just get rid of it completely and never have to deal with it again? My understanding of mental health issues is limited at best, so forgive me if this one sounds dumb.

Yet another: Are there any mental health problems that some people mistake for depression?

Finally: You say that some people ask for medication. Do you ever have anyone that specifically wants to avoid any sort of medication?

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Posted by MariachiMacabre

@jasonr86 said:

@mariachimacabre said:

@jasonr86 said:
@mariachimacabre said:

All dumb comments making fun of dumb Tom Cruise and his dumb anti-mental therapy cult aside, you do good work, sir! And this was an informative read.

Thanks man!

D...don't make this weird.

Take off your pants. You know, for therapy.

Okay. I'm trusting you, here, Doc. Don't make me regret this.

Posted by Example1013

A lot of therapists suck. Don't take it personally though, I have the same feeling for psychiatrists. Haven't spent much time with psychologists so I can't really give an opinion on them, but I have an unfortunate suspicion that if I did, it would match the other two.

Edited by Video_Game_King

@wrighteous86 said:

You're glib. You're being glib.

I wonder if ANYONE is going to get that reference. I got a chuckle out of it though.

Posted by DarthOrange
Edited by shivermetimbers

Another: Is depression something that people fall into and out of all the time, or can people just get rid of it completely and never have to deal with it again? My understanding of mental health issues is limited at best, so forgive me if this one sounds dumb.

I can answer this as a life long sufferer of depression and say that depression is different for everyone. Symptoms are different, people react differently to external stimuli, etc. It's pretty much a life long mental illness, it never just goes away. But there are ways to treat it and mask it so that the suffer can lead a normal life and symptoms can leave, even if the illness itself isn't...If that makes any sense.

Posted by MariachiMacabre
Edited by Rick_Fingers

Ever had someone tell you something that just made you scream in horror internally while keeping your professional face on?

Edited by believer258

@video_game_king said:

@demoskinos said:

@wrighteous86 said:

You're glib. You're being glib.

I wonder if ANYONE is going to get that reference. I got a chuckle out of it though.

Wait, is it a Yogscast reference? EDIT Nevermind. I was confusing that with this.

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Posted by Yummylee

@jasonr86: Alritey, thanks for the reply.

Oh, so how do you feel about how therapy is portrayed in movies and stuff? Actually, just what are the differences between a therapist and a psychiatrist? Because if Hollywood would have its way then therapists apparently don't exist and psychiatrists reign supreme. Do you at least have one of those sleek, leather couches for patients to lie down on?

Also on that note, have you ever considered moving on from your old drinking hole and starting up your own radio show based in Seattle? It's what all the cool therapists/psychiatrists do.

Posted by JasonR86

Yes. Why are you such a dick?

A more serious question: What seems to be the most common thing you treat?

Another: Is depression something that people fall into and out of all the time, or can people just get rid of it completely and never have to deal with it again? My understanding of mental health issues is limited at best, so forgive me if this one sounds dumb.

Yet another: Are there any mental health problems that some people mistake for depression?

Finally: You say that some people ask for medication. Do you ever have anyone that specifically wants to avoid any sort of medication?

I'm a dick because...

The most common issue are mood disorders (depression being huge) and anxiety disorders. Though psychosis is becoming more common as of late.

Depression often comes in episodes. What I see most commonly is a persistent low mood with big drops from time to time. For any disorder, what I try to say is that the person learn what might have lead the current symptoms and how to best deal with them. If that leads to the client feeling like they no longer have depression then that's great! But I aim kind of low and see where the client goes with our work.

Practically anything can be mistaken for depression. Hyperthyroidism can lead to depressive symptoms for example. Also practically anything can be mistaken for mania. So many people think they have bipolar disorder because they go from states of being depressed versus not depressed and the not depressed part equals 'mania'. It doesn't.

If people have a history with a medication and didn't like it they'll want to avoid it. Also if they've had a drug problem in the past or currently they may want, but won't get, some medications. For example, a person with a methamphetamine problem won't get prescribed ADHD medications and a person an alcohol problem won't get prescribed most anti-anxiety medications (like benzodiazepines).

@jasonr86 said:

@mariachimacabre said:

@jasonr86 said:
@mariachimacabre said:

All dumb comments making fun of dumb Tom Cruise and his dumb anti-mental therapy cult aside, you do good work, sir! And this was an informative read.

Thanks man!

D...don't make this weird.

Take off your pants. You know, for therapy.

Okay. I'm trusting you, here, Doc. Don't make me regret this.

*zip*

A lot of therapists suck. Don't take it personally though, I have the same feeling for psychiatrists. Haven't spent much time with psychologists so I can't really give an opinion on them, but I have an unfortunate suspicion that if I did, it would match the other two.

We haven't met personally so you might think I suck too! But there's often two sides to these things and there might have been a reason why it felt like the people you've worked with suck. But there's always going to be people in all fields that are not as good as others. We do try our best though.

Posted by falserelic

Quick Question from falserelic..


What made you want to become a therapist?

Posted by Video_Game_King

It's pretty much a life long mental illness, it never just goes away.

As somebody who suffers from depression with regularity, this is all kinds of terrifying.

Posted by mrfluke

lol

but for reals,

so ok lets say a scenario is that the client says he needs medication, but you know based on your diagnosis/gut that its not that serious to where said client needs it.

would you push back against the clients demands for medication and insist on something more low key like natural supplements. or do you ultimately have to give in to the clients demands for prescription medication?

(good post by the way, pretty informative)

Edited by JasonR86

Ever had someone tell you something that just made you scream in horror internally while keeping your professional face on?

Absolutely.

@yummylee said:

@jasonr86: Alritey, thanks for the reply.

Oh, so how do you feel about how therapy is portrayed in movies and stuff? Actually, just what are the differences between a therapist and a psychiatrist? Because if Hollywood would have its way then therapists apparently don't exist and psychiatrists reign supreme. Do you at least have one of those sleek, leather couches for patients to lie down on?

Also on that note, have you ever considered moving on from your old drinking hole and starting up your own radio show based in Seattle? It's what all the cool therapists/psychiatrists do.

So a therapist like me has a master's degree in clinical psychology and can do assessments for mental health diagnoses and run therapy. A psychologist has a doctorate and can do a few more assessments that I can't (like the rorschach tests). A psychiatrist has doctorate like a psychologist but also a medical degree as well. They can prescribe medications and, most often then not, focus on medication management rather then psychotherapy.

I do have a couch in my office! And a sweet office chair. Shortly I'm going to start my own practice and leave the community health life behind me.

Posted by Jay_Ray

@jasonr86: Have you ever seen the HBO show In Treatment? Is that a good recreation of what therapy is like?

Edited by ArtelinaRose

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

Posted by Zeik

@jasonr86 said:

So a therapist like me has a master's degree in clinical psychology and can do assessments for mental health diagnoses and run therapy. A psychologist has a doctorate and can do a few more assessments that I can't (like the rorschach tests).

You can't do Rorschach tests?! Sorry man, I think you chose the wrong profession.

Posted by JasonR86

Quick Question from falserelic..

What made you want to become a therapist?

I took a few philosophy classes in undergrad and the professor in the classes thought that I was more interested in behavior and people then philosophy. So he told me to take a psychology 101 class and see what I thought. And he was right.

@mrfluke said:

lol

but for reals,

so ok lets say a scenario is that the client says he needs medication, but you know based on your diagnosis/gut that its not that serious to where said client needs it.

would you push back against the clients demands for medication and insist on something more low key like natural supplements. or do you ultimately have to give in to the clients demands for prescription medication?

(good post by the way, pretty informative)

I wouldn't because, with my training, I have no place to make such a claim. I would refer the client to a prescriber I trust and explain to that prescriber what concerns me before they see them. But I would have to put my trust in that prescriber because they are the experts with medications and I'm not.

@jay_ray said:

@jasonr86: Have you ever seen the HBO show In Treatment? Is that a good recreation of what therapy is like?

I haven't but I've heard about it. I should give it a shot.

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Posted by JasonR86

@zeik said:

@jasonr86 said:

So a therapist like me has a master's degree in clinical psychology and can do assessments for mental health diagnoses and run therapy. A psychologist has a doctorate and can do a few more assessments that I can't (like the rorschach tests).

You can't do Rorschach tests?! Sorry man, I think you chose the wrong profession.

Well, I guess if I took the training I might be able to do it but my analysis wouldn't hold as much weight as a psychologist's would.

Posted by ArtelinaRose

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Cause you'd be able to take a ton of money from me, huh?! You hack!

Edited by JasonR86

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Cause you'd be able to take a ton of money from me, huh?! You hack!

I'm at an agency. So, technically, my agency could take a lot of money from you. Better?

Posted by MariachiMacabre

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Cause you'd be able to take a ton of money from me, huh?! You hack!

He left me penniless. :'(

Why, Jason? Why? You were my friend...

Edited by ArtelinaRose

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Cause you'd be able to take a ton of money from me, huh?! You hack!

I'm at an agency. So, technically, my agency could take a lot of money from you. Better?

But I already have a therapist...

Posted by JasonR86

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Cause you'd be able to take a ton of money from me, huh?! You hack!

He left me penniless. :'(

Why, Jason? Why? You were my friend...

BECAUSE YOU TOOK OFF YOUR DAMN PANTS!!!

Posted by JasonR86

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Cause you'd be able to take a ton of money from me, huh?! You hack!

I'm at an agency. So, technically, my agency could take a lot of money from you. Better?

But I already have a therapist...

*inhales*

Well this is awkward.

Posted by ArtelinaRose

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Cause you'd be able to take a ton of money from me, huh?! You hack!

I'm at an agency. So, technically, my agency could take a lot of money from you. Better?

But I already have a therapist...

*inhales*

Well this is awkward.

I mean, why on earth would I need TWO friends?

Posted by McGhee

Since you mentioned it, it made me wonder if psychology is a science. Can human behavior be understood and quantified to that level of dependability/repeatability?

Posted by JasonR86

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Cause you'd be able to take a ton of money from me, huh?! You hack!

I'm at an agency. So, technically, my agency could take a lot of money from you. Better?

But I already have a therapist...

*inhales*

Well this is awkward.

I mean, why on earth would I need TWO friends?

If we could initiate a transfer...then, you know...

Posted by ArtelinaRose

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Cause you'd be able to take a ton of money from me, huh?! You hack!

I'm at an agency. So, technically, my agency could take a lot of money from you. Better?

But I already have a therapist...

*inhales*

Well this is awkward.

I mean, why on earth would I need TWO friends?

If we could initiate a transfer...then, you know...

M-my word! How unprofessional! Are you TRYING to start a scandal?!

Posted by MariachiMacabre

@jasonr86 said:

@mariachimacabre said:

@artelinarose said:

@jasonr86 said:

@artelinarose said:

boy you would just have a field day with me wouldnt you

I only know you from here but from what I've seen I think you'd be a great client.

Cause you'd be able to take a ton of money from me, huh?! You hack!

He left me penniless. :'(

Why, Jason? Why? You were my friend...

BECAUSE YOU TOOK OFF YOUR DAMN PANTS!!!

I DID IT BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME TO. YOU TOLD ME TO TRUST YOU AND HOLD MY BREATH.

Posted by JasonR86

@mcghee said:

Since you mentioned it, it made me wonder if psychology is a science. Can human behavior be understood and quantified to that level of dependability/repeatability?

Yep. There's an entire field of psychological research. One of the most famous was Pavlov's Dog's and him developing the concept of classical conditioning.

Posted by JasonR86
Edited by ArtelinaRose

I am curious as to what you meant by you think I would make a good client. You can't just say something like that and expect me to let it go! You don't have to answer it publicly, obviously...

Posted by JasonR86

I am curious as to what you meant by you think I would make a good client. You can't just say something like that and expect me to let it go!

You seem open to differing opinions, are strong, determined, and have a good sense of humor. You seem like you'd be open to hearing the nonsense a therapist like me spews throughout each session. You seem to already have a lot of strengths that you can rely on.

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