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Posted by Hailinel

Oh, and one things I forgot to mention! At the end of the Wonderful 101 panel, Kamiya revealed a secret about the game. Wonderful 101 versions of Bayonetta, Jeanne, and Rodin are all hidden somewhere in the game. And as far as he or anyone else at Platinum or Nintendo are aware, no one in Japan or Europe has found them yet.

Posted by Aetheldod

@hailinel: Well I was at crunchyroll and video ads of Projetc Diva F kept coming out ... altho not weird in reality because I was at crunchyroll.

So shamefull about that panel ... I mean come on guys FFXIII is not that bad D:

Still really jelly that you get to see so much cool stuff :(

I hate living in mexico

Posted by ArbitraryWater

Let's get down to the real deal: How much were Final Fantasy II, III, V or XII mentioned? Or was it just a recreation of the average Final Fantasy XIII thread on these forums in panel form? I feel like if you're going to make your panel revolve around a celebration of FF, you should probably keep on the positive side of things and at least give each (non-spinoff, non MMO) installment a mention. Of course, If I were to host such a panel it'd probably descend into me touting the merits of X-2's brand of self-parody over all else.

The Kamiya panel sounds like it was fun though. I may have missed it, but did you get into the GB panel last night? The screenshots I saw were... intriguing.

Edited by GunstarRed

@hailinel: All the secret characters in 101 are tied to the acheivements. I know people have managed to unlock Rodin, but Bayonetta's unlock requirements are insane. It's funny he had anything to say about yellow's voice as he barely has anything to say in the game. I would have loved to hear Kamiya talk about that game, it's a wonderful thing.

Posted by Hailinel

Let's get down to the real deal: How much were Final Fantasy II, III, V or XII mentioned? Or was it just a recreation of the average Final Fantasy XIII thread on these forums in panel form? I feel like if you're going to make your panel revolve around a celebration of FF, you should probably keep on the positive side of things and at least give each (non-spinoff, non MMO) installment a mention. Of course, If I were to host such a panel it'd probably descend into me touting the merits of X-2's brand of self-parody over all else.

The Kamiya panel sounds like it was fun though. I may have missed it, but did you get into the GB panel last night? The screenshots I saw were... intriguing.

XII was mentioned maybe once in the time I was there, II wasn't mentioned at all, and V was only mentioned in passing with IV and VI. It basically was an FFXIII forum thread as a panel. It was just a poorly executed panel all around.

And I did not go to the Giant Bomb panel. I'm not aware of anything that happened at it, actually.

Edited by GrantHeaslip

I don't tend to seek this stuff out, so I may just be seeing the stuff that's dumb enough to be notable, but I find the way the popular games media talks about Final Fantasy XIII more often than not embarrassingly snarky, hyperbolic, uninformed and one-sided.

"The other games weren't linear", "lol feathered hair, "Nomura ruined everything!", "anime melodrama!", "20 hour tutorial!" or "oh, Japan!" aren't valid criticisms in and of themselves. They're not invalid, but they're not established facts that don't require any support. The "I'm an old-school FF fan" angle reads to me as idealized nostalgia, though in fairness I haven't played any of those games. FF VI could very well be the best game in the series, but if it was a formative game for someone, I doubt anything could really compare to the nostalgic reverence they have for it.

To put it more directly, if you're going to shit on something (or speak about in a condescending way) and your job mostly consists of writing, you should be able to put together a coherent argument to support your position. A large number of people saying a thing doesn't make it true.

(If this reads as bitter, it's a result of my just finishing XIII-2, finally watching the Lightning Returns trailers, and reading insufferable comment snark from the GB peanut gallery. Lightning Returns, by the way, looks pretty cool, and I didn't even have a lot of love for XIII-2.)