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Posted by WilliamRLBaker

Mythic map pack impression

Sandbox=Suck atleast with the built in variants
The standard br team death, team death, capture the flag, neutral bomb, multibomb are all played on pretty much the same map which is infact SMALLER then the other sand map which name escapes me. The swat variant is played on a map with a big giant room and you start out in large cups making it all most impossible to survive if the other team has all ready left these cups because going up and over make it so you are an inanely easy target with no abbility to fire back.

Orbital=great its the only good map available its a nice lil confusing space with enough variety.

assembly=suckage its just a remake of the wizard or whatever map from halo 1/2 with a camo in the center, hammer underneath and areas outside.

Bungie really isn't good at making maps a few of the orignal built in maps are good which is why nearly very time you play on these because people have vetoed the other maps into low percentages on every playlist, and they usually only release one or two good maps after that.


Posted by crunchUK
mrimperfect12 said:
" i work for bungie and the price is 230"
no you don't


and the price is 800
Posted by mrimperfect12

 i work for bungie and the price is 230

Posted by mrimperfect12

i want the price to be 300 or no del and i like cookies

Posted by WilliamRLBaker

I purchased halo wars CE 2 days ago and have been playing the maps.

Posted by crunchUK

oh man i wish i had teh mapz

Posted by Caboose2900

Yo, i like my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmothers famous stuffed furball cookies from France... with a lot of hash. I mean like 20 grams in each one. Mmm mmm good.

O yea, the map pack looks cool also.

Posted by Roussel09
Posted by crunchUK
killerwhats11 said:
"i am lucky that im geting limited edition halo wars saw i can exp the mythic map first assembly orbaitl and sandbox i preordeared my copy on january 23 2009 just cant wait for the 26 2 2009 for it me and my step brother are going looking for the skulls  saw im 1 step closer to geting the rare recon armour because if got the other 3 vidmasters lol love bungie:."
Nope, you need to do the vidmaster achivements that will be in halo 3 ODST as well.
Posted by killerwhats11

i am lucky that im geting limited edition halo wars saw i can exp the mythic map first assembly orbaitl and sandbox i preordeared my copy on january 23 2009 just cant wait for the 26 2 2009 for it me and my step brother are going looking for the skulls  saw im 1 step closer to geting the rare recon armour because if got the other 3 vidmasters lol love bungie:.

Posted by Shadow
Lonewolftom said:
"This is great, I'm actually considering buying the Limited Edition Halo Wars just for these maps. Cant wait to see some new content in ODST later in the year but the achivmemnts for Mythic will keep me going until then."

You do realize that the extra cost of the collectors edition is more than the cost of the map pack, right?
Posted by Lonewolftom

This is great, I'm actually considering buying the Limited Edition Halo Wars just for these maps. Cant wait to see some new content in ODST later in the year but the achivmemnts for Mythic will keep me going until then.

Posted by Roger_Klotz

meh I'm finished with halo. There are just way too many better games now.

Posted by pirate_republic

Looks sweet, I'll wait for it to be free (if it ever is), and oatmeal raisin cookie is definitely the best kind of cookie. There's no real argument against them.

Posted by Jack_Daniels

I <3 Halo.

Posted by crunchUK
Fosssil said:
"bshirk said:
"SmokePants, I don't understand how some people will continue to say that Halo 1 was the best in the series.  What did Halo 1 have that Halo 2 didn't?  A decent pistol.  Halo 2 may have had a cliffhanger ending, but its multiplayer was much, much better.  First of all, Halo 2 had much more detailed graphics--go back to Halo 1 and you'll see what I'm talking about.  The controls are are more intuitive, and there are less glitches.  The warthog would constantly flip over and kill you in Halo 1, and I didn't encounter this problem at all during my 3 years of playing Halo 2.  You also didn't have access to nearly as many vehilces in Halo 1, you couldn't jack vehicles, there was no energy sword, the the multiplayer course layouts weren't as good.  Not only that, but it also didn't have 16 player online gameplay.

I'm guessing that you were burnt out of Halo by the time two came along, which is why you didn't enjoy it so much.  I kinda felt the same way with three, but I won't deny that Halo 3 featured gameplay and graphical enhancements.  The multiplayer maps were some of the worst of the series, but the game as a whole wasn't bad."
To refute each of your points on why Halo 1 wasn't the best in the series:

1. "What did Halo 1 have that Halo 2 didn't? A decent pistol."

The difference between the weapon sandbox in Halo 1 and Halo 2 was far more than just the pistol. Halo 1's weapons were much more balanced and fair, and each had a specific purpose, while Halo 2's weapon sandbox was filled with a bunch of gimmicks, half-weapons, and clones.

2. "First of all, Halo 2 had much more detailed graphics..."
 
Really and truly, more detailed graphics don't equate to better gameplay. Take Halo 3 for example -- every map in the game has a bunch of unnecessary geometry, designed to make the maps "look better" to people who care about such things. There are several small bumps and edges built into the map for better aesthetics that hamper player movement and make throwing grenades like a game of Plinko. Halo 1's graphics may have been duller than Halo 2's or Halo 3's, but at least the graphics never degraded the player experience.

3. "The controls are more intuitive, and there are less glitches."

Clearly you never played Halo 2 online, because button glitches were rampant and had a profound effect on the gameplay. BXR, BXB, Doubleshot, quick reload, nade reload, superbouncing, just to name a few. I won't deny that Halo 1 had it's fair share of glitches, but to say it had more than Halo 2 is laughably ignorant.

4. "...you couldn't jack vehicles..."

Didn't matter much, because it was pretty easy to actually shoot someone out of a vehicle with a pistol, sniper, or even AR if they were in range. In Halo 2 and Halo 3, your only options are weapons that are specifically designed to destroy vehicles, which ruins the balance between infantry and vehicle. Being able to jack vehicles is a nice option, but it's really only useful if the driver of said vehicle is fairly inept.

5. "...the multiplayer course layouts weren't as good..."

While I hold Halo 2's maps in higher regard than the garbage that calls themselves maps in Halo 3, the Halo 2 maps were certainly not better than Halo 1's. Without DLC, Halo 2 had 4 good maps -- Lockout, Midship, Beaver Creek, and Coagulation (and two of those were remakes). Ivory Tower, Ascension, and Headlong were decent, but nothing special. On the flipside, almost every one of Halo 1's maps was a well-designed masterpiece. Chill Out, Hang 'Em High, Battle Creek, Damnation, Prisoner, Wizard, Rat Race, Derelict, Longest, Sidewinder, Blood Gulch... nothing more needs to be said.

I certainly don't begrudge you if you prefer Halo 2 to Halo 1, but to say that it's a better game is simply incorrect."
um halo 1s wepaons were not balanced, with the all powerful pistol 3 shot and the colossal range gap between pistol and AR, the shotgun had the same spread as the AR, and the grenades were powerful enough to kill on their own. And saying there are weapon "clones" is ignorant - take BR/carbine. the carbine is a good deal harder to use, as it's harder to aim and missing a shot is more costly than with a BR, but if done right is a good deal more powerful than the BR unless it's a big distance. With the sniper/beam rifle the sniper has more recoil, but more bullet capacity, whereas the beam rifle overheats but if you time it right you need never reload and you can 2-shot kill almost instantly at the cost of overheating. and etc. Theyi just give more variety and depth to everything
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And in halo 3 taking down light vehicles without anti-vehicle weaponry is really not hard: There's power drain and brute shots, trip mines, turrets and the vehicle-stunner plasma pistol which were absent from halo 1. As well as conventional stickies, BR-ing, or simply flipping it with a frag AS WELL AS boarding. so to say that there is no bridge between infantry and vehicles is a lie

And as for maps the halo 3 maps are tmeless - the pit, guardian and valhalla. nothing remains to be said
Posted by ZombiePie

I'm going to have to side wth Brad on this, I'm done with Halo 3. So this doesn't really matter to me.

Moderator
Posted by Fosssil
bshirk said:
"SmokePants, I don't understand how some people will continue to say that Halo 1 was the best in the series.  What did Halo 1 have that Halo 2 didn't?  A decent pistol.  Halo 2 may have had a cliffhanger ending, but its multiplayer was much, much better.  First of all, Halo 2 had much more detailed graphics--go back to Halo 1 and you'll see what I'm talking about.  The controls are are more intuitive, and there are less glitches.  The warthog would constantly flip over and kill you in Halo 1, and I didn't encounter this problem at all during my 3 years of playing Halo 2.  You also didn't have access to nearly as many vehilces in Halo 1, you couldn't jack vehicles, there was no energy sword, the the multiplayer course layouts weren't as good.  Not only that, but it also didn't have 16 player online gameplay.

I'm guessing that you were burnt out of Halo by the time two came along, which is why you didn't enjoy it so much.  I kinda felt the same way with three, but I won't deny that Halo 3 featured gameplay and graphical enhancements.  The multiplayer maps were some of the worst of the series, but the game as a whole wasn't bad."
To refute each of your points on why Halo 1 wasn't the best in the series:

1. "What did Halo 1 have that Halo 2 didn't? A decent pistol."

The difference between the weapon sandbox in Halo 1 and Halo 2 was far more than just the pistol. Halo 1's weapons were much more balanced and fair, and each had a specific purpose, while Halo 2's weapon sandbox was filled with a bunch of gimmicks, half-weapons, and clones.

2. "First of all, Halo 2 had much more detailed graphics..."
 
Really and truly, more detailed graphics don't equate to better gameplay. Take Halo 3 for example -- every map in the game has a bunch of unnecessary geometry, designed to make the maps "look better" to people who care about such things. There are several small bumps and edges built into the map for better aesthetics that hamper player movement and make throwing grenades like a game of Plinko. Halo 1's graphics may have been duller than Halo 2's or Halo 3's, but at least the graphics never degraded the player experience.

3. "The controls are more intuitive, and there are less glitches."

Clearly you never played Halo 2 online, because button glitches were rampant and had a profound effect on the gameplay. BXR, BXB, Doubleshot, quick reload, nade reload, superbouncing, just to name a few. I won't deny that Halo 1 had it's fair share of glitches, but to say it had more than Halo 2 is laughably ignorant.

4. "...you couldn't jack vehicles..."

Didn't matter much, because it was pretty easy to actually shoot someone out of a vehicle with a pistol, sniper, or even AR if they were in range. In Halo 2 and Halo 3, your only options are weapons that are specifically designed to destroy vehicles, which ruins the balance between infantry and vehicle. Being able to jack vehicles is a nice option, but it's really only useful if the driver of said vehicle is fairly inept.

5. "...the multiplayer course layouts weren't as good..."

While I hold Halo 2's maps in higher regard than the garbage that calls themselves maps in Halo 3, the Halo 2 maps were certainly not better than Halo 1's. Without DLC, Halo 2 had 4 good maps -- Lockout, Midship, Beaver Creek, and Coagulation (and two of those were remakes). Ivory Tower, Ascension, and Headlong were decent, but nothing special. On the flipside, almost every one of Halo 1's maps was a well-designed masterpiece. Chill Out, Hang 'Em High, Battle Creek, Damnation, Prisoner, Wizard, Rat Race, Derelict, Longest, Sidewinder, Blood Gulch... nothing more needs to be said.

I certainly don't begrudge you if you prefer Halo 2 to Halo 1, but to say that it's a better game is simply incorrect.
Posted by crunchUK
SmugDarkLoser said:
"crunchUK said:
"BoG said:
"I usually hate white chocolate, but a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie is simply to die for.
Also, those maps don't seem all that awesome. The previous packs were much better.
"
lolwut boith map packs are worse than all the on disk maps

Sandbox looks to be a forge paradise


assembly has carbibnes in it (instant win in my books)


orbital has..... doors that open with switches? i dk but it looks insteresting in an old fashioned arena style"
You said you don't have the legendary maps, those are my 3 favorite maps in the game.
cold storage is also one of my favs

As far as the heroic map pack, standoff is rather fun for CTF and Assault although it's sort of bland in setting.  Rat's Nest is kind of meh, but Foundry is fun.  Talking about the default setup here.


And Orbital doesn't seem remotely similar to an arena map, I'd more likely compare it to Elongation (longest).  Assembly is the arena map here. 


Assembly seems like a mix of Midship, Damnation, and dare I say Ascension?"


 i'd take valhalla/sandtrap/last resort over avalanche or standoff or rats nest any day

and i'd take everything else over foundry (default), ghost town or blackout.. even epitaph or isolation


the original maps are simply of better design, hopefully the mythic map pack will prove this wrong
Posted by WickedCobra03

I was going to buy Halo Wars because I really do like RTS's but man, I really don't like those special editions because they are usually so big and just do not fit in with the rest of the collection/case.  Plus they get damaged pretty easily.  Either it is the binding on the case, the edges of the case itself, the slip cover...everything is more vunerable.  I mean my H2 CE was destroyed to to just regular use...always opening and closing the case at LAN parties as we swapped out discs...it had like 3 dents in from just tossing it on a friends coffee table, and I know it got one from the female part of the seat belt connector in my mustang from just landing on top of that in the backseat.

I really would probably buy the mythic maps, but I wish you would just get them if you straight up just bought Halo Wars.

Posted by Superchris129

I like the look of Assembly. It looks a lot like... that one halo 2 map

Edited by SmugDarkLoser
crunchUK said:
"BoG said:
"I usually hate white chocolate, but a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie is simply to die for.
Also, those maps don't seem all that awesome. The previous packs were much better.
"
lolwut boith map packs are worse than all the on disk maps

Sandbox looks to be a forge paradise


assembly has carbibnes in it (instant win in my books)


orbital has..... doors that open with switches? i dk but it looks insteresting in an old fashioned arena style"
You said you don't have the legendary maps, those are my 3 favorite maps in the game.
cold storage is also one of my favs

As far as the heroic map pack, standoff is rather fun for CTF and Assault although it's sort of bland in setting.  Rat's Nest is kind of meh, but Foundry is fun.  Talking about the default setup here.


And Orbital doesn't seem remotely similar to an arena map, I'd more likely compare it to Elongation (longest).  Assembly is the arena map here. 


Assembly seems like a mix of Midship, Damnation, and dare I say Ascension?
Posted by crunchUK
BoG said:
"I usually hate white chocolate, but a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie is simply to die for.
Also, those maps don't seem all that awesome. The previous packs were much better.
"
lolwut boith map packs are worse than all the on disk maps

Sandbox looks to be a forge paradise


assembly has carbibnes in it (instant win in my books)


orbital has..... doors that open with switches? i dk but it looks insteresting in an old fashioned arena style
Posted by WEGGLES

Oatmeal Chocolate Chip :)

Posted by SmugDarkLoser
Posted by BoG

I usually hate white chocolate, but a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie is simply to die for.

Also, those maps don't seem all that awesome. The previous packs were much better.
Posted by Gorillawhat
crunchUK said:
"SmugDarkLoser said:
"Lies said:
"To clarify, the Mythic maps will only be available in the Halo Wars LE on March 3rd. They'll go up on the marketplace at a later, unspecified date, unless this newest press release said otherwise."

they said like 2 weeks after"
naw they said in june


and halo 2 elites watered down wtf"
They would do that. I'm surprised bungie would do that, but as per usual we can probably blame it on Microsoft liking money somehow.
Edited by crunchUK
SmugDarkLoser said:
"Lies said:
"To clarify, the Mythic maps will only be available in the Halo Wars LE on March 3rd. They'll go up on the marketplace at a later, unspecified date, unless this newest press release said otherwise."

they said like 2 weeks after"
naw they said in june


and halo 2 elites watered down wtf
Edited by SmokePants
bshirk , I am absolutely not burned out on Halo. Quite the opposite. I've just been upset by some of the direction the series has taken. The first game had a sense of mystery and wonder that the sequels lack completely. The plot was tight, logical, and satisfying. Halo 2's plot wasn't satisfying; Halo 3's wasn't logical (they activated a Halo to kill something that a Halo pulse expressly doesn't kill!); neither were tight. And as far as the combat goes, the Elites in Halo 1 were the most fun to fight  enemies in any game I've ever played. They were backward-talking badasses and if you saw one carrying a sword, you'd soil yourself. In Halo 2, they were weak, watered down, and spoke the King's English. Lose, lose, and lose. And remember the awesome 3-way fights? What happened to those, Bungie?

It's funny you bring up 16-player multiplayer, because I bought the PC version of Halo for just that reason. There were 6 new large vehicle/CTF maps, so we weren't stuck playing Blood Gulch and Sidewinder all the time and it was awesome. Completely ruined me for Halo 2 and 3 multiplayer. With matchmaking 16-player games take for-ev-er to set up, there's usually horrible lag, and when someone quits, no one else is allowed to file into the game to take their place, so the matches have to be super short to mitigate player-loss. And then there's the whole spread-too-thin issue with their map selection. Whereas Halo PC had 8 dedicated vehicle CTF maps, Bungie could only spare 2-3 maps at launch to any given play style.

As far as vehicles, the only one that matters is the Warthog and for my money, I had more fun with the Halo 1 version. They were indestructible projectiles that instakilled anything that touched them while they were in motion. There were no cheap lock-on missiles to completely neuter them and you couldn't jack them, but what you could do is perfectly place a grenade in their path and send them pinwheeling, kill the driver, and the prize was yours. Realistic? No. Fun? Damn skippy.

The graphics haven't aged well -- I don't care. The levels were re-used -- they were well-worth re-using.

This is getting to be too long for a "Comment", but I have to say that I do like Halo 2 and 3 when compared to every other game EXCEPT Halo. That game is just special to me and if it weren't for it, I'm not sure I'd still be playing games.
Posted by Gorillawhat
crunchUK said:
"assembly, orbital, and sandbox.

i want my cookie nao. The pena\lty for failure is death

On the subject i don't even have the legendary maps yet (swat and snipers are boring anyway) so buying an excessively expensive halo wars for the mythic ones is not high on my priorities. it's not the 600 points it's having to buy 0points ofr something that i will never have use for the remainder

Besides all the awesome maps are the orignial ones anyway ;)"
Crunch, the self proclaimed Halohoe, doesn't own the fucking Legendary map pack?
Who cares if it is a bit of suck, ITS FUCKING HALO!!!!!!!

*Hurts itself in confusion*
Posted by bshirk
SmokePants, I don't understand how some people will continue to say that Halo 1 was the best in the series.  What did Halo 1 have that Halo 2 didn't?  A decent pistol.  Halo 2 may have had a cliffhanger ending, but its multiplayer was much, much better.  First of all, Halo 2 had much more detailed graphics--go back to Halo 1 and you'll see what I'm talking about.  The controls are are more intuitive, and there are less glitches.  The warthog would constantly flip over and kill you in Halo 1, and I didn't encounter this problem at all during my 3 years of playing Halo 2.  You also didn't have access to nearly as many vehilces in Halo 1, you couldn't jack vehicles, there was no energy sword, the the multiplayer course layouts weren't as good.  Not only that, but it also didn't have 16 player online gameplay.

I'm guessing that you were burnt out of Halo by the time two came along, which is why you didn't enjoy it so much.  I kinda felt the same way with three, but I won't deny that Halo 3 featured gameplay and graphical enhancements.  The multiplayer maps were some of the worst of the series, but the game as a whole wasn't bad.
Posted by bshirk

I just want Bungie to move on to something else; Halo is a great series, but enough is enough.  Even though Halo 2 is probably my favorite multiplayer game of all time (even above Starcraft), the series has been boring me as of late.  Halo 3's campaign was fun, but the multiplayer levels just didn't feel inspired.  There weren't really any secrets, and the layouts were bland--CoD 1up'd it in this regard.  I still hope ODST and Halo Wars turn out good, but I really think Bungie should move on to new properties.  They've always brought out innovative games like Marathon, Myth, and Halo, but you can only thrive on one thing for so long.

Posted by Hughes

Macadamia nut.

Posted by CreamyGoodness
CylonAndrew said:
"Looks ok. I will pay no more than 800paints for it, don't pull of the 1600 paint bullshit."
wtf are you talking about. the map packs are always 800
Posted by Zereta

What still keeps Halo 3 alive is its simple gameplay and constant support for Bungie. Though I don't play it so often now in favor of completing games that I put off (GTA IV!), Its still my #1 game on the 360. It just has that special something to it. And I agree with Brad. Halo 3 is the best in the surface. Sure, some points are lacking compared to Halo 2 and Halo CE (Elites for example), but as an overall package, Halo 3 trumps all. 

But I agree with Brad for one thing. The Formula may be good but its running its worth out. I probably wouldn't have bought Halo 4 unless it was EXTREMELY different from Halo 3. Plus the main Story Arc for Halo is over. Halo 4 would have only dragged it on. It would have been redundant, just like the Star Was Prequel Trilogy. And then slowly, it would be driven to its grave, ending with an Animated Halo Film where Master Chief gets an apprentice alien that calls him 'Chief Guy'

Oh wait...

Glad they are doing Halo 3: ODST though. Its remarkably different from the standard Halo Experience and I can't wait to play it.
Posted by jangofett88

Assembly, Orbital, and Sandbox.

Where the hell is my oatmeal cream pie!?!?!?

Posted by SmugDarkLoser
Lies said:
"To clarify, the Mythic maps will only be available in the Halo Wars LE on March 3rd. They'll go up on the marketplace at a later, unspecified date, unless this newest press release said otherwise."

they said like 2 weeks after
Posted by TomA

i first saw this on Bnet,i'll be getting the LE of Halo Wars fo sho!!!

Posted by Lies

To clarify, the Mythic maps will only be available in the Halo Wars LE on March 3rd. They'll go up on the marketplace at a later, unspecified date, unless this newest press release said otherwise.

Posted by user_nat

Yeah.. slight misinformation there.

The maps will NOT be on the market place right away, they will be exclusive to Halo Wars LE for an unknown amount of time. According to Bungie.. and Microsoft.
Posted by Aaox

Snickerdoodles, or however you spell it. The cinnamon ones.

Posted by SmokePants

I'm not buying Halo Wars on principle. This "value-added", "synergistic" BS can't be allowed to continue. Not that I would have bought the game, anyway -- it looks like a stale, cookie-cutter RTS with a bucket of Halo IP bastardization dumped on top of it. Now, if it were more along the lines of a World in Conflict-type RTS (that is, 16-player, join anytime, no base building, no resource gathering, instant tactical action) made by Bungie themselves (the only ones that should be allowed to "make up shit" in order to fill out the unit ranks), I'd be all over it and I'd have to deal with this Mythic Map scam that Microsoft is trying to pull. But it's not, so I don't.

And you're wrong, Brad. Halo 1 remains the best of the series. Back then, they didn't let questionable plot decisions get in the way of gameplay. With the recent announcement that Halo 3 ODST won't feature Elites as enemies, it's clear that we're still paying for the sins of the past.

Posted by MordeaniisChaos

I personally am a fan of chocolate-mint chip brownie centered gum drop covered sugar cookies.

WIth icing

And carmel drizzled over top

a cherry nesteled between the chips of chocolate and mint

And heavily sweetned hazelnut dip <3

Posted by crunchUK
SmugDarkLoser said:
"crunchUK said:
"thabigred said:
"people still play this game?"
um

it's the most played game on live

so yea"

To save you the reply
"but COD: WAW is higher"

"yea, for like 2 weeks"

"but COD4 was the most popular"

"no, only for like 2 weeks, halo 3 was the most played game of 2008""
the main difference is that cod5 is bound to die out as cod6 arrives whereas halo 3 is bound to get even MORE popular because of halo 3 odst (same MP component)
Posted by SmugDarkLoser
crunchUK said:
"thabigred said:
"people still play this game?"
um

it's the most played game on live

so yea"

To save you the reply
"but COD: WAW is higher"

"yea, for like 2 weeks"

"but COD4 was the most popular"

"no, only for like 2 weeks, halo 3 was the most played game of 2008"
Posted by needforswede

Although I haven't played Halo 3 in a while, I still think it has plenty of life left.  It's a bit overrated, but there's something undeniably resilient about the simple formula.  It's strange because I thought that Gears of War 2's multiplayer was technically the "best" I had ever played, but I ended up selling that before I even beat it (you can call me crazy, but I only spent $12 on it brand new anyway).  Maybe I've just lost patience for shooters, but Halo 3 and COD4 just barely made it within my window of tolerance.  Wow, I just had to take that in...I just realized, I'm officially tired of shooters...that's fucking crazy.

Posted by WilliamRLBaker
austinmiller said:
"im a fan of regular chocolate chip, but i like them to be a little burnt and crispy"
<---is a fan of buffalo chips basically chocolate chip cookies made thin so they spread out extra thin when cooked and are totally crispy.
Posted by crunchUK
thabigred said:
"people still play this game?"
um

it's the most played game on live

so yea
Posted by granderojo

people still play this game?

Posted by sdauz

where is my cookie!

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