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Posted by BlaineBlaine

 I'm just posting here because it seems like these threads got locked when the spam was removed. Hoping this will help. Sorry for any disturbance.    

Posted by PenguinDust

I'm a level 40 about 10% into my second playthrough.  I'd really love some new content to spice up that trek to the end, again.  I hope Gearbox follows Bethesda's lead and keeps releasing good DLC to me coming back again and again.

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Posted by GRNDmastrWIZRD

when exactly is this avalible...i search on xbox live and couldnt find it
Posted by Gurbles

@Ockman:
Theyre done making the game about 2-3 weeks ago, but they have to make copies of cds, manuals, and cover art and cd art. You cant just delay a game for a maybe 5-6 new missions and a new area. 

Posted by Rhaknar
@CarolinaFan3515 said:
" I wonder if this will also raise the level cap.  If not, they're pretty much forcing me to start a new character to play the new content with. "
when you finish the game a second time, the world balances out to level 50...so maybe the DLC is all level 50 too (if there is no new cap i mean)
Posted by akaleus

I can't wait!

Posted by CarolinaFan3515

I wonder if this will also raise the level cap.  If not, they're pretty much forcing me to start a new character to play the new content with.

Posted by Darkastic

 Way to be dicks about "oh no, bad marketing with this" No one's making you buy the DLC. Instead you guys whine about it saying "
ridiculous DLC scams to make the game more expensive" You DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT. 

PS Grow up

Posted by MikkaQ

Yeah really no reason to complain. Who's to say it's 100% complete? Also it seems like an entire extra campaign separate from the actual plot of the game, therefore it's perfect for DLC. Doesn't fit in the retail box.  
 
I seriously hope they go the route of Fallout 3 and speedily release a long string of high-quality DLC campaigns. Those were all pretty fun, and would love to see that level of support for Borderlands.

Posted by Avamar222

             Well, I beat the game yesterday. Level 50 hunter...beat it all. Even have max money...9999999. (Which doesn't run out?) Anyways instead of a new island how bout steering towards Diablo 2. Give us a channel, Trading option so I would be motivated to farm for better guns, Dueling games, Maybe let us solo the bosses again? Items off the last boss on play through #2 was about 5 whites and 1 green gun? Really? Hes the biggest and hardest boss in the game. Also forget the island...I know Call of Duty nazi zombies and Left for dead zombies is whats in right now but......LET US GO IN THE VAULT! Let us kill huge monsters! I could rant on but I'm going to stop. I'm just disappointed my $60.00 i spent lasted not even a week. The game has potential! Looks like I'm gonna go play Call of Duty WaW and World of Warcraft again..Yawn 

Posted by Madyew

I was skeptical at first, but seeing how much fun I'm having with Borderlands, I really hope this is good enough for a purchase. Hopefully they'll add more than just a couple new quests and items.

Edited by kojip
@handlas:
After playing the game myself and realizing GB was just not showing us spoilers, your post just sounds handicapped.  I was going to say retarded but god forbid the PC police come after me.
Posted by wfolse1
@caseylakes: Blatant money making scheme??? From a company??? Anwyway, like one commenter already stated, there is some time between when a game goes gold and launch, so why not work on a little bit of content.  I defy you to play Borderlands and feel like there is a lack of content.
Posted by Phonics
@G24S said:
" Woah. Looks a bit like a zombified Point Lookout from the pictures. "
Yeah, Point Lookout invented swampy and broken 'Deep South' looking locales.
Posted by Slaneesh

It might be a bad marketing move releasing it prelaunch, however i don´t think that makes the moneygrabbing people. The designers and programmers mostly don´t have anything to do in the final months before release, so why not work on DLC
Posted by caseylakes

I also agree with people who think this DLC has been released a little early and is a blaitent money making scheme, nevertheless I also agree that it does look very good, and I will probably get it. Who knows it may even be worth 800 points.

Edited by RyuuKami619

Ok, this is starting to piss me off.  People who complain about DLC being released so close to launch are retarded.    Game developers stop making content sometimes months before actual release. The last little while before release is spent tweaking and polishing the game so that your 60 dollar game isnt broken. Would you prefer they left all the bugs in so they have time to include your dlc on the disc? It's 10 bucks people. I know I'd rather spend 10 extra bucks to get this dlc for a game that actually is playable. But whatever, if you want to play a broken game thats your decision.
Posted by rectum_abominae

Why that's crazy.

Posted by Dj1nn

Sweet zombies. Looking forward to trying this game out.

Posted by Dustpan

This looks really out of place...and i like it...

Posted by mracoon

Looks cool but I'd like to play the actual game first before I start thinking about the DLC.

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Posted by G24S

Woah. Looks a bit like a zombified Point Lookout from the pictures.

Posted by Rhaknar

this will probably be the only game where i wont resist every piece of DLC... new zones and especially loot = instant buy :(

Edited by stupiderrors

14 hours and 35 minutes until release. I'm glad I preordered my game! 
 
And you know what I'm gonna get? A $10 Jakob's Cove when it comes out, months from now.  Why? Because this game looks that badass to me. 
 
And to the people worried about PC-releases of DLC, the game will take 6 more days until it's released on PC. I'm sure it'll still have the downloadable content. It just makes sense, with how well Gearbox has been supporting its followers.
Edited by Death_Burnout

i'm worried this will turn into a Far Cry 2 DLC situation...will this come out for the store bought PC version? or just the steam version...because if that's the case, i really shouldn't have to wait an extra week to get an extendable version.
 
I dont see them setting up shop for just the store bought version...or maybe they could release multiple add ons in a pack down the line.

Posted by Shogun_Seth

After watching the quick look for this game i am really excited to play it. ( i just wish i could get a few of my friends to feel the same way) But does it say anywhere that the DLC will actually raise the level cap? 
Further more, if its worth a few more hours of a game play, especially a multiplayer game that i am going to get hundreds of hours of game time out of anyway, i don't mind paying 10 bucks for some extra content.

Posted by Nonethewiser
@Graybes said:
"Can you guys please stop BITCHING!?!? Holy hell if you knew anything about the development of this game you would know that Gearbox announced that they started to work on DLC after the game went into certification. Meaning AFTER the point where additional content could be added to the game. They announced this a while ago. This is not a DLC scam...maybe if you guys understand how the development process works you wouldn't all be acting like whiny little bitches... "

Amen
Posted by MrKlorox

Boo for not being about Maniac Mansion instead!

Posted by ShaunassNZ

Fuck you's this game shall last long still with a wow factor and I would have payed more for this game and here's my chance oh and I get some more content. see I'm happy, this dlc is for the people that like the game and want to pay more to see more.

Posted by Hyuzen

This dlc announcement doesn't bother me since its right near the release meaning they couldn't fit in into the game. I do get annoyed in situations like modern warfare 2 where they were talking about about map packs already in the early summer. Obviously they wouldn't be able to fit the 4-6(i'm assuming) maps that they probably have planned for dlc, I bet theres lots of situations where dlc is part of their planning for the games development, not something you do when you're finished making the game, and thats the real shame. people just see a dlc announcement and they assume the worst

Posted by Jayzilla

i am not gonna post here for fear of being violated due to my opinion. wow there is a ton of hate on this page. They are called opinions. Respect them and stop getting so personal.

Posted by strag34

this is a brilleunt bissness plane and i love it, everyone needs to know that this is where the world of gaming is going and thats good because you cant get used DLC so it keeps people buying from the game maker so that they can pay thier employes to make the next game.

Posted by uptown

Jeez a lil more complaining why dont ya? the game isn't even out yet and its gonna rock... stop complaining about dlc you don't HAVE to buy it. I mean if they would've gone the L4D route everybody would've been complaining about the lack of dlc.... i mean stfu already...

Posted by StaticWind
@FellOpenIan: You are saying this as if this only applies to video games. This applies to everything. Any product you buy today will be improved and refined and will come down in price. Any computer you buy will be improved upon and become cheaper. If you bought an Xbox 360 Premium at launch you will have paid more money than it costs today to buy the superior Elite. If, as you say, you don't care about getting something right away I honestly don't see what your problem is. If you want to wait and get the GOTY version with all the DLC a year from now then do so. I don't see how Gearbox developing the retail release for another year and releasing it with all the planned DLC on the disc presents a different result. If anything you stand to gain from this situation, because GOTY versions, as you say, often are sold at lower prices than launch versions. If Gearbox released Borderlands next year with all the planned DLC as part of the game then you would have to pay more than you would in the current situation.
Posted by SumDeus

another reason for me to piss my pants with excitement

Posted by mehteh

o my! Finally the second company that is charging pc gamers for DLC. Maybe it will be worth the money like Fallout DLC was

Posted by MetalBaofu
@pweidman said:
" @FellOpenIan said:

"Knowing how game development works is precisely my problem. I know that the better and more complete version is coming and it is discouraging me from purchasing games with DLC at release.  Why would I when I know that waiting one year will net me twice the content for half the price? "

This is precisely why Gearbox should stfu about their DLC stuff.  There's no need to piss people off and lose sales.  Very shortsighted marketing imo, that'll turn some gamers off.  And Borderlands is not established yet!  The fucking game isn't even out yet, nor reviewed by any of the bigger sites yet last I looked.  And to think this DLC stuff, yes 3 friggin screens, is new since going gold is just ignorant or blind fanboyism...they've been working on this 'DLC' for a while and have made business decisions to keep it as an add on and not have the whole of the content up for initial release.  They(Gearbox)deserve these doubts by bringing it to the public now...their own damn fault imo. "
Wow.....just straight to insults, huh?   Of course, they had planned to release DLC.....any major game does at this point.  Most likely it is something they had thought about putting into the actual game, buf cut it for some reason(besides just to make it DLC), which means yes, they would have had some work/models/etc. done already.  However, it would not have been something they could have gotten into the actual game without some sort of delays.   Announcing DLC and showing 3 screenshots of it only a week before the games actual release shouldn't piss people off, it should just make them realize they are planning to have DLC for the game and support it past initial release. As I said earlier, only thing that should piss people off is if the DLC is out in like less than a month, or if it is a super small download that appears to be nothing more than an "unlock code."   Either way, I'm done trying to talk common sense into people, here or anywhere else for that matter, just leads to frustration.
Posted by turbomonkey138

This looks really awesome

Posted by Kitty_Kats_Love_Milk2

I don't see why everyone is getting so pissed off.  Even if GB was able to put the content into the game (which they arent), it'd just sell for 10 dollars more anyways, and does nobody remember how Bethesda announced that there would be extensive DLC for Fallout 3 before that game hit? And oh what a terrible game that turned out to be... *note the sarcasm..

Posted by natetodamax

This argument is so stupid. You people are acting as if Gearbox is forcing you to buy the DLC.

Posted by stupiderrors

You have to remember that they've already been working 2 years on this game, and I have been waiting patiently all that time. You also have to remember that we don't know how big this game is going to be on release, so don't bust pre-release announcements of DLC. They could have WANTED to put it on the disc, but MAYBE they RAN OUT OF SPACE. I followed the forums and whatnot and they had more ideas than they had memory to make use of, and I'd rather this be on one disc with priced DLC add-ons rather than have more than one disc to change out in the middle of playing. Call me lazy, but I'm just being honest here. 
 
Also, it's $10. And it's a DLC. YOU. DON'T. HAVE. TO. GET. IT. But if you do, at least it's relatively cheap. 
 
About the actual DLC, great, more fucking zombies :D
Posted by Lydian_Sel

Thank You Brad!! This has clenched it for me... I am buying Borderlands!!

Edited by pweidman
@FellOpenIan said:

"Knowing how game development works is precisely my problem. I know that the better and more complete version is coming and it is discouraging me from purchasing games with DLC at release.  Why would I when I know that waiting one year will net me twice the content for half the price? "


This is precisely why Gearbox should stfu about their DLC stuff.  There's no need to piss people off and lose sales.  Very shortsighted marketing imo, that'll turn some gamers off.  And Borderlands is not established yet!  The fucking game isn't even out yet, nor reviewed by any of the bigger sites yet last I looked.  And to think this DLC stuff, yes 3 friggin screens, is new since going gold is just ignorant or blind fanboyism...they've been working on this 'DLC' for a while and have made business decisions to keep it as an add on and not have the whole of the content up for initial release.  They(Gearbox)deserve these doubts by bringing it to the public now...their own damn fault imo.
Edited by MetalBaofu
@FellOpenIan said:

" Knowing how game development works is precisely my problem. I know that the better and more complete version is coming and it is discouraging me from purchasing games with DLC at release.  Why would I when I know that waiting one year will net me twice the content for half the price? "

........That is not at all what I meant by "how game development works."     Again....if you want to wait, then wait.....no one cares.....that's not the discussion that was started here, and not what I was commenting on.  All I've been commenting on is the people saying this DLC should be in the main game already, or that they shouldn't work on DLC while still working on the game.
Posted by FellOpenIan

Knowing how game development works is precisely my problem. I know that the better and more complete version is coming and it is discouraging me from purchasing games with DLC at release.
 
Why would I when I know that waiting one year will net me twice the content for half the price?

Posted by Shadowsquire
@Graybes said:
" Can you guys please stop BITCHING!?!? Holy hell if you knew anything about the development of this game you would know that Gearbox announced that they started to work on DLC after the game went into certification. Meaning AFTER the point where additional content could be added to the game. They announced this a while ago. This is not a DLC scam...maybe if you guys understand how the development process works you wouldn't all be acting like whiny little bitches... "
This.
Posted by MetalBaofu
@FellOpenIan said:

" I don't give a flying fuck about some developer's inability to time-manage their employees. I care about games like Fallout 3 and Street fighter IV being made completely irrelevant by the inevitable ultimate version which gets released around one year later for at least half of the cost of the original game plus all of the added DLC.  (in most cases even less) Developers, in a poor attempt to avoid used game sales, are teaching us to wait for the complete versions of their games. The games are incomplete. If they weren't then they wouldn't be making DLC and expansions. I still want to own and play these games. I just want to own the complete package. I'm no longer interested in Borderlands or Dragon Age because I know that there's at least one year's worth of DLC to be had. So why not wait that one year and buy it all together in one box for half of what the early adopters are paying for the same amount of content? So I can play their incomplete game earlier? No thanks. I want the whole shebang for $50-60 and that's just what they are teaching us to do = wait for the better and less expensive version because we all know that it's coming.  This isn't like going from one game to the sequel. These are incremental upgrades at worst and full-on expansions at best. There is zero incentive for me to run out and purchase Borderlands on day 01 when I know that somewhere down the line an actual complete version is coming. The early adopters and purchasers of the DLC are essentially paying the way for me to own the same amount of content for half of what they paid and all because they had to have it right away.  That's the plan boys and girls; nickle and dime your early adopters and reward the fence sitters who wait a year. Don't be mad at us for waiting. Be mad at yourself for being impatient and paying double. "

I'm not mad at anyone....if you don't want to buy it and want to wait, then wait.......if you want to buy now and buy DLC as it comes out, then do that.   If you don't want any of it period, then don't buy anything.     The game is NOT incomplete.   The game that is coming out next week is Borderlands......it will have optional DLC in the future.....that does not make it incomplete.   From what you said you seem to have more of a problem with "GotY editions" that come with the DLC for the same price as the original, which is a completely different subject/argument.   All that is happening is console games are getting more and more PC-like, in the sense of expansions(albeit smaller in size usually, but smaller in price as well), and most people just seem incapable of understanding what is going on or how game development works.
Posted by FellOpenIan

I don't give a flying fuck about some developer's inability to time-manage their employees. I care about games like Fallout 3 and Street fighter IV being made completely irrelevant by the inevitable ultimate version which gets released around one year later for at least half of the cost of the original game plus all of the added DLC.  (in most cases even less)
 
Developers, in a poor attempt to avoid used game sales, are teaching us to wait for the complete versions of their games. The games are incomplete. If they weren't then they wouldn't be making DLC and expansions. I still want to own and play these games. I just want to own the complete package. I'm no longer interested in Borderlands or Dragon Age because I know that there's at least one year's worth of DLC to be had. So why not wait that one year and buy it all together in one box for half of what the early adopters are paying for the same amount of content? So I can play their incomplete game earlier? No thanks. I want the whole shebang for $50-60 and that's just what they are teaching us to do = wait for the better and less expensive version because we all know that it's coming.
 
This isn't like going from one game to the sequel. These are incremental upgrades at worst and full-on expansions at best. There is zero incentive for me to run out and purchase Borderlands on day 01 when I know that somewhere down the line an actual complete version is coming. The early adopters and purchasers of the DLC are essentially paying the way for me to own the same amount of content for half of what they paid and all because they had to have it right away.
 
That's the plan boys and girls; nickle and dime your early adopters and reward the fence sitters who wait a year. Don't be mad at us for waiting. Be mad at yourself for being impatient and paying double.

Posted by MetalBaofu
@Duckbutter said:
" @metalhead87 said:
" @Duckbutter said:
" even if Gearbox is righteous in their Day-One DLC and actually had spare time to make it, if they help Day-One DLC become common then it opens the door for all kinds of asshole video game makers to actually take out original game stuff and sell it as DLC. "
Who the hell said it would be out on day one? "
oh it aint day one? i thought that was what everybody was complainin about. if this aint out day one then what the fack are the complaints about? i'm gonna take my argument over to the Dragon Age section then, those rat bastards. "
Yeah......there has been no announcement on when it will be out as far as I can tell.
 
@pweidman said:
" @metalhead87 said:
" @pweidman said:
" @Graybes said:

"Can you guys please stop BITCHING!?!? Holy hell if you knew anything about the development of this game you would know that Gearbox announced that they started to work on DLC after the game went into certification. Meaning AFTER the point where additional content could be added to the game. They announced this a while ago. This is not a DLC scam...maybe if you guys understand how the development process works you wouldn't all be acting like whiny little bitches... "

Maybe you're right,  but when you(as the dev)start to talk and show screens of DLC b4 the game even drops, you invite the criticism from gamers.  And there's no way the stuff thery're touting was deved up after cert as this stuff takes time.  It's obvious plans were made b4 release, and at some time during development,  to hold some content for DLC and not include it in the game.    Granted this is the state of business these days in the video games industry, but it still smells like rip-off to some, understandably.  Most of the big devs are doing it ...and it's a standard now, unfortunately imo.  Maybe not a smart one though.  Gearbox(and other devs of course)could be smarter and hold the PR for DLC stuff 'till the game is out for a while and then share the details as the word grows about how good, and replayable the released game is and, subsequently, how  DLC worthy the game is.  Just seems stupid in a marketing sense to me.  And I have no prob spending the xtra $ if the game itself is great; just don't treat the consumer(especially us core gamers)like a dunce because they're not. "
......They've shown all of 3 friggin' screenshots.     You talk as if they've gave details on quests/items and shown footage or something.      Either way, I can understand someone not buying the DLC because they think it is a rip-off and don't want to support it.  I don't understand people that say they won't buy the game period because DLC was announced.   Buying only the game =/= supporting the DLC. "
Any disclosure is too much imo, and invites the complaints is what I'm saying....just let the game stand on it's own for a while, and then pump the DLC for an established game is what I think would make way more sense.  I want to play the game and it's a day one for me...., just saying there's not a need to invite the wrath from gamers is all, from a marketing standpoint foremost.  I'll but any and all DLC for a good game for the gameplay first and to support good devs and excellent games on principle for two. "

Yeah......like the first post I had in this thread said,  that's basically how it used to be, and everyone would always complain about developers not making enough DLC.    Besides......this is making DLC for an "established game."   The game has been completed......the huge majority of the designers/staff have absolutely nothing to do, so instead of taking a break they started work on DLC......which should be considered a good thing for the gamers.  The only DLC that kinda gets on my nerves is the ones that are like 200kb in size and are obviously "unlock codes" to give access to stuff that is already on the disc.    If it is decent sized DLC, that is being released around 6 months after the initial game release, like this seems to be and the MW2 map pack that was announced(which people bitched about too), then I have no problem with it.
Edited by pweidman
@metalhead87 said:
" @pweidman said:
" @Graybes said:

"Can you guys please stop BITCHING!?!? Holy hell if you knew anything about the development of this game you would know that Gearbox announced that they started to work on DLC after the game went into certification. Meaning AFTER the point where additional content could be added to the game. They announced this a while ago. This is not a DLC scam...maybe if you guys understand how the development process works you wouldn't all be acting like whiny little bitches... "

Maybe you're right,  but when you(as the dev)start to talk and show screens of DLC b4 the game even drops, you invite the criticism from gamers.  And there's no way the stuff thery're touting was deved up after cert as this stuff takes time.  It's obvious plans were made b4 release, and at some time during development,  to hold some content for DLC and not include it in the game.    Granted this is the state of business these days in the video games industry, but it still smells like rip-off to some, understandably.  Most of the big devs are doing it ...and it's a standard now, unfortunately imo.  Maybe not a smart one though.  Gearbox(and other devs of course)could be smarter and hold the PR for DLC stuff 'till the game is out for a while and then share the details as the word grows about how good, and replayable the released game is and, subsequently, how  DLC worthy the game is.  Just seems stupid in a marketing sense to me.  And I have no prob spending the xtra $ if the game itself is great; just don't treat the consumer(especially us core gamers)like a dunce because they're not. "
......They've shown all of 3 friggin' screenshots.     You talk as if they've gave details on quests/items and shown footage or something.      Either way, I can understand someone not buying the DLC because they think it is a rip-off and don't want to support it.  I don't understand people that say they won't buy the game period because DLC was announced.   Buying only the game =/= supporting the DLC. "

Any disclosure is too much imo, and invites the complaints is what I'm saying....just let the game stand on it's own for a while, and then pump the DLC for an established game is what I think would make way more sense.  I want to play the game and it's a day one for me...., just saying there's not a need to invite the wrath from gamers is all, from a marketing standpoint foremost.  I'll but any and all DLC for a good game for the gameplay first and to support good devs and excellent games on principle for two.