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Edited by falconpunch

This episode is... very elaborate.

Posted by Seaborgium
Posted by Babylonian

Man, I found myself laughing out loud at this episode a ton. "Skies are clear, drink some beer. Skies are red, you're probably dead."

Also, hearing Jeff drop a Kitsuné Maison / HeartsRevolution reference made my heart warm.

Edited by Zeik

@Marokai: Chie is definitely not the worst party member, overall Chie and Kanji are pretty on par really. Even with higher level Zio spells Kanji's magic stat and SP pool are terrible, so his offensive magic is largely limited to weakness exploitation just like Chie. In terms of physical skills they both hit a point mid-game where they start falling behind because their physical skills kind of suck, but then Chie learns Power Charge, which makes her viable again while Kanji still has still has to struggle with his mediocre physical skills and weak magic. It's not until he learns Vile Assault at level 58 that he starts being able to dish out some real damage, but even then, unless you're taking advantage of the down state bonus it's not much better than a Power Charged Chie. Once she learns Rainy Death/God Hand she once again makes a big leap over Kanji until he finally learns Primal Force at level 73, at which point he can finally deal some serious damage every turn.

I used every character during my first playthrough, but I often defaulted to Yosuke, Chie, and Kanji for boss fights due to their lack of elemental weakness. Against the final boss Chie using Power Charge and God Hand was only doing slightly less total damage than Kanji using Primal Force every turn. (Who of course used twice as much HP to do so.)

Edited by Marokai
@BluPotato said:

Kanji is the best, dunno what you guys have against him.

I just think it's because they couldn't find a suitable way to fit him in the party. Yosuke is incredibly good, Yukiko was their healer, and they flatly refused to get rid of Chie even though she became progressively more and more sucky throughout the Endurance Run until the eleventh hour when she finally got something worth having her in the party for. 
 
The only person that made sense to boot out in favor of Kanji was Chie, but they weren't ever going to do that even though she's probably in a tough contest with Naoto for worst-party-member-in-the-whole-game. (And the only reason that's the case with Naoto is because she lacks usefulness against bosses. Otherwise she's certainly better than Chie.)
Posted by kerse

@MooseyMcMan said:

@BluPotato said:
" Kanji is the best, dunno what you guys have against him. "
Word!

attack up for the whole party is pretty awesome, the only problem i had with him is he never got an aoe physical attack

Posted by TruthTellah

That little kid in the hospital is going to school in Mr. Morooka's class now.

Posted by kollay

Rise staring at the fire alarm: great.

Posted by BluPotato

Kanji is the best, dunno what you guys have against him.

Posted by dungbootle

 Do you feel blame? Are you mad? Uh, do you feel like wolf kabob Roth vantage? Gefrannis booj pooch boo jujube; bear-ramage. Jigiji geeji geeja geeble google. Do you begep flagaggle vaggle veditch-waggle bagga?  

Posted by wrathofconn

Super Troopers reference!

Posted by strangeling
Posted by Liminality

Watching random episode from the future :3

Posted by JakJ
@Tebbit: No. Liter is the correct spelling in the US. Don't be one of THOSE people. Just because you do it a certain way doesn't mean it's the only right way.
Posted by Madara117
@Nexas: I know have you read the one where souji says: I want to eat naoto then some "mysterious liquid" gets all over kanji- F'ing hilarious
Posted by Media_Master

good one

Posted by MagikGimp

They don't half learn a lot of pub-quiz trivia at that school.

Posted by EmperorSeth

Heh, I actually checked about the goldfish.  You can get them on the shopping channel!  Want to know which day?  October 2nd, the one you just missed.  I know, it "amused" me too.

Really, you're not doing anything wrong with the fish.  It's just chance which ones you get.  They encouraged you to do it on a sunny day because the usually good fish, notably the Huge Fish, only come out on rainy days at this point in the game.  But you can get the crappy red goldfish any day.  So if you want to fish again, for God's sake, don't do it when you could be raising an S.Link.  Wait for a quiet night when Nanako and the increasingly less naughty nurse are around, for example.

To further enhance your chance, when you fish, watch the speed of the ripples and the vibrations on your controller.  In general, the bigger the fish, the longer the gaps between ripples/vibrations and the stronger the vibrations.  A goldfish's will come very quickly.  If you get one that feels longer, just press the circle button before the fish bites to switch to a different one.  I know, all of this is tedious, but the game didn't anticipate people making videos of it and refusing to reload if they get fish they don't want.

Posted by sdauz

nice episode

Posted by Tebbit

Liter? More like Litre.


Geez
Posted by Bozar

Guys, try to ace the exams for once :D (the gifts you get from nanako/dojima are usually worth it).

Can't remember if you needed rank 4 or 5 in knowledge for this upcoming one, but as mentioned you should try to max out knowledge (and courage) asap anyways.

Edited by YetiAntics

@gakon5 said:

"@amino said:
" Norn is the ultimate persona of Fortune while Nanako SL is Justice.I hate to say this,but all Justice personas are weak to dark and specialised in light magic.Unless they want to have Hama/Mahama specialized persona or maximize all SL(which is already impossible for them),it is not really helpful to maximize Nanako SL.   "
They really only need one Light and one Dark Persona.  Or, maybe they don't.  The game won't tell them what monsters are week to instant-death until they max out Rise's Social Link.  Even then, they've gotten along fine without always trying Hama/Mudo, and Rise can't tell them everything."


Not only that but Norn is only weak to Electricity, absorbs Wind, and blocks Ice. It has Debilitate, and that is a godsend later in the game. Also, since Vinny and Jeff are such big fans of Invigorate... Norn has Invigorate 3.

Posted by trimon
Posted by Agent_Eli

I read that you can get the Red Goldfish by fishing at the flood plains.

Posted by gakon
@amino said:
" Norn is the ultimate persona of Fortune while Nanako SL is Justice.I hate to say this,but all Justice personas are weak to dark and specialised in light magic.Unless they want to have Hama/Mahama specialized persona or maximize all SL(which is already impossible for them),it is not really helpful to maximize Nanako SL.   "
They really only need one Light and one Dark Persona.  Or, maybe they don't.  The game won't tell them what monsters are week to instant-death until they max out Rise's Social Link.  Even then, they've gotten along fine without always trying Hama/Mudo, and Rise can't tell them everything.
Posted by artofwar420

Jeff: "How much do you pee?"

Me: *dies of laughter*

Posted by SaraHysaro

Awesome episode! And you guys are better at fishing than I am. My timing's always off. >.>

Anyways, looking forward to tomorrow! Naoto's one of my favorite characters. =)

Posted by Curufinwe
@LordAndrew said:
" @Vandal: I wouldn't count on them getting Naoto to level 10. "
I think they will if they do her S.Link every chance they get from now until Nov... until they can't any more.
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Posted by Postmark

I don't know what a litero'cola is.  Do we sell a litero'cola?

Posted by amino
@PantyshotMQN said:
" You need to MAX Nanako so you can fuse a Norn, which is one of the best Persona in the game. Without spoiling anything, lets just say Nanako's deadline is soon, so chill with her every chance to get. You'll be glad you did later on in the game. "
Norn is the ultimate persona of Fortune while Nanako SL is Justice.I hate to say this,but all Justice personas are weak to dark and specialised in light magic.Unless they want to have Hama/Mahama specialized persona or maximize all SL(which is already impossible for them),it is not really helpful to maximize Nanako SL.  
Posted by Undeadpool

Not sure if you guys read this far, but you can still get a red goldfish during the night or the rain.

Posted by hakunin
@CH3BURASHKA: That's not a glitch. It´s randomized whether only you or the whole party gets healed.
Posted by RVonE
@Nexas said:
" @RVonE said:
@Madara117 said:
" I really hope they get naoto girlfriend status because thats the most popular pairing in japan and America. "
Er, no it's not. "
Your kidding right?  Naoto is easily the most popular girlfriend. My collection of Persona 4 doujins is proof of that.
"
No, that is proof of either your selective downloading or of the fact that Naoto is a very popular ecchi-character. It does not necessarily exemplify the popularity of the specific Souji Seta x Naoto Shirogane pairing.
Posted by Nexas
@RVonE said:
@Madara117 said:
" I really hope they get naoto girlfriend status because thats the most popular pairing in japan and America. "
Er, no it's not. "
Your kidding right?  Naoto is easily the most popular girlfriend. My collection of Persona 4 doujins is proof of that.
Posted by VanTesla

 I suggest working on your knowledge and courage for Naoto, Nanako when she is open talk to her, Rise when you can, Kanji is the lower priority but you want him at 10 at end when there is time.

 If done correct you should have Nanako, Dojima, Yosuke, Kanji, Rise, Chie, Yukiko, Naoto, Sayoko, Teddie, Investigation Team, and Seekers of Truth by the end of the game if you get the true ending.

 You may be able to even get Yumi and Kou to rank 10 but they are on the back list till you get every one else for they are not as important. Forget the Young Mother day care for S. Link and money and just do Sayoko for the money and her S. Link.

 Once Nanako is complete and you have max knowledge/courage for Naoto you can go fishing at night when hospital is not up so you can do the Fox quest later.  I hope you guy's read my post and that they are helpfull.

 I want you guys to do the best at Links for it is the fun part of the show listining to your commentary :)

Posted by YetiAntics

You need to MAX Nanako so you can fuse a Norn, which is one of the best Persona in the game. Without spoiling anything, lets just say Nanako's deadline is soon, so chill with her every chance to get. You'll be glad you did later on in the game.

Posted by VanTesla

     Days that Rise, Kanji, and Naoto are available.  No spoilers.

Rise:  friday, sat, sunday. Holidays & Sundays: shopping District , South

Kanji:  wed, thur, sat, sunday. Holidays & Sundays: Shopping District, North

Naoto: monday, tue, wed, sat, sunday. Holidays & Sundays: Samegawa Flood Plain

 I suggest once you start Naoto you complete her first before doing any one else besides Rise and Kanji.
 If you are able to not get the bad ending you will have more time to finish some social links but not Nanako's.

                                                    IMPORTANT!!!!  
 If you want to finish Nanako's S. Link you have until the end of October !!





Posted by LordAndrew
@Madara117: What is? The main character and Naoto? No.
Posted by LordAndrew
@T0mF5: It's a level 10 Social Link item. That's what allows Charlie to fuse the Ultimate Personas of each Arcana. And they carry over into a New Game+, so you can fuse without maxing the Social Link again.
Posted by Satune

Woot! FISHING!!!!!

Posted by VanTesla

 Tips to increase Knowledge and courage for Naoto S. Link.  No spoilers in here.

  Knowledge: You can study on your desk at night. +3 PTs *
                  You can study at the Library after school. +3PTs *
                  Certain Lessons from teacher. +3 PTs
                  Giving the right answer on Lessons. +3 PTs
                  Eating the special Ramen at Aiya (3000 Yen) +3
                  Reading Bug Encylopedia and Number Series. +3 PTs
   
         Note *Increase by Double on raining days.


Courage:Working Part time in Hospital. +3 PTs
          Eating the rotten food in your fridge. +5 PTs
  Eating the special Ramen at Aiya (3000 Yen)
                  Read the Man Series +3 PTS
                  Defeating the Bonus boss at dungeons.
                  Certain choices made in the game can increase Courage.







Posted by T0mF5

What does the mug they got from Dojima do?

Edited by RVonE

Good street fighter reference in there. Oh and the part about eyes as a bodily function cracked me up as well. Great job, guys!

@Madara117 said:

" I really hope they get naoto girlfriend status because thats the most popular pairing in japan and America. "
Er, no it's not.
Posted by Madara117

I really hope they get naoto girlfriend status because thats the most popular pairing in japan and America.

Posted by Revenant86

GET TO RANK TEN WITH NANAKO AND

KANJI
And Naoto:

Distance>1m


you'll understand :)

Posted by DannyJ
@Bonzi2387 said:
" i've never heard of the persona games. what system are they for? "
There have been a few on them. I believe the first one was on the PS1, but the next few were on the PS2. Im not sure, it's probably easier to just look it up online since the universe it takes place in has tons of games over a bunch of systems.
Posted by ch3burashka

I got a good Persona anecdote: I'm playing P3:FES right now, and I happened upon an Adamant Beetle (weakness: lightning). I cast Zio, we rush. Mitsuru happens to crit him with a simple attack, we rush. Then Akihiko, the other Zio guy, attacks instead of casting, and also crits him, and we rush. The the next guy ALSO crits him, and we rush. Then I Zio, and we rush. So, to sum up: 2 Zios and 3 consecutive Crit hits. Lawl.

Also, that game has a glitch where the healing cups don't heal the party, which is annoying and inconvenient.

Posted by LordAndrew
@Vandal: I wouldn't count on them getting Naoto to level 10.
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