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Posted by SleepyDoughnut

Man this is the first time I've ever complained but Im upset, nay, pissed off that you guys didn't form the nidhogger with the bottom two personas like you were looking at at the end of the last episode. That would of been practical and nidhogger looked badass but instead you just did a lot of throwaway personas since you didn't remember from the previous episode :(. Get that nidhogger! I'm interested!

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Posted by ChibiSoma

Guys, guys. Heal with Yukiko out of battle. Don't burn poor Charlie's SP with your healery!

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Posted by guilherme

When you can you HAVE to fuse Trumpeter, it's one of the best personas to have!

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Posted by Nizzleworth
@Bureksasutlijom said:
"

Step 1: Avoiding the Bad Ending

After a major plot point the investigation team will all be together and Yosuke will begin a series of questions addressed at the the Main Character. The last word that Yosuke will say to the MC before he starts answering will be "...Leader?" After that you must answer his following questions with the following responses. Mess up once and it's bad ending for you. 

The Responses you should give to get on the True/Good ending path are...

  • First Question: Third Response
  • Second Question: First Response 
  • Third Question: Third Response
  • Fourth Question: Second Response
  • Fifth Question: Third Response
  • Sixth Question: Second Response

Congratulations! You're now on the path to the True/Good Ending!

0

Step 2: Securing the Good Ending

A number of days after the above events, the Investigation Team will do what they do best. Investigate! You will run around Inaba Investigating the case when you will initiate another important decision point. You will find the MC with Naoto and Yosuke and you will have 3 chances to make the right decision. It shouldn't be to hard to figure it out, but if you need some help, it's on the third page.

Once you've made the right choice, CONGRATS! You've ensured the Good Ending!

0

Step 3: Achieving the True Ending

If you ensured the good ending and you continue through the game it will eventually jump ahead in the calendar. You will then need to go around and find each of your buddies that you maxed your social link with. leave no stone unturned. 

Once you've talked to everyone, the game will prompt you to go home. Say no! 

Now head over to Junes. The game will try to get you home again. Say no once again and get your ass the Junes!!!

Once you've done the. Huzzah! You've Started the True Ending! Have Fun!

SPOLIER FREE Jeff and Vinny!
Do NOT eff up please man!
"

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Edited by codycody

bust out the tam lin first and take advantage of that auto marakukaja


EDIT: nevermind you ruined him by replacing deathbound lol

also there's a spell (Spell Master) that personas can get that halves the cost of all spells, skadi can get it at level 60 and i think you guys dont give the physical attacks enough credit, they dont cost much when you consider how cheap it is to heal (6 sp to heal chie fully after a heatwave, as opposed to 10 sp for mabufu, which does less damage and can't crit)

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Posted by PeasForFees
@Nizzleworth said:
" @Bureksasutlijom said:
"

Step 1: Avoiding the Bad Ending

After a major plot point the investigation team will all be together and Yosuke will begin a series of questions addressed at the the Main Character. The last word that Yosuke will say to the MC before he starts answering will be "...Leader?" After that you must answer his following questions with the following responses. Mess up once and it's bad ending for you. 

The Responses you should give to get on the True/Good ending path are...

  • First Question: Third Response
  • Second Question: First Response 
  • Third Question: Third Response
  • Fourth Question: Second Response
  • Fifth Question: Third Response
  • Sixth Question: Second Response

Congratulations! You're now on the path to the True/Good Ending!

0

Step 2: Securing the Good Ending

A number of days after the above events, the Investigation Team will do what they do best. Investigate! You will run around Inaba Investigating the case when you will initiate another important decision point. You will find the MC with Naoto and Yosuke and you will have 3 chances to make the right decision. It shouldn't be to hard to figure it out, but if you need some help, it's on the third page.

Once you've made the right choice, CONGRATS! You've ensured the Good Ending!

0

Step 3: Achieving the True Ending

If you ensured the good ending and you continue through the game it will eventually jump ahead in the calendar. You will then need to go around and find each of your buddies that you maxed your social link with. leave no stone unturned. 

Once you've talked to everyone, the game will prompt you to go home. Say no! 

Now head over to Junes. The game will try to get you home again. Say no once again and get your ass the Junes!!!

Once you've done the. Huzzah! You've Started the True Ending! Have Fun!

SPOLIER FREE Jeff and Vinny!
Do NOT eff up please man!
"
"
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Posted by PipeAndSlippers

Grr, you forgot to fuse all those personas I was talking about. I'm gonna come to your offices and rebuke you further. And then i'm gonna live in your trash can like oscar the grouch.

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Edited by chronix
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Posted by Daroki
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Posted by chronix
@Daroki: Oh yeah that will work too, doesn't have much health in any case.
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Edited by Amp

I've never even played Persona 4, and really haven't touched jRPG's in a long time and even I can tell there were some very disappointing mistakes this episode:

  • Tam Lin is CLEARLY (look at the stats, and Power Charge) a physical damage dealer, yet you replaced the one physical spell he has left and still left in Power Charge. Tam Lin is nigh-useless now except as a weakness-hitter when I bet that Deathbound and Power Charge could have made him a bane of existence.
  • Still insisting on using Chie as a caster when her ice spells are doing no more damage than a standard weapon attack.
  • For the short time Naoto was in, they never tried any of her abilities other than insta-kill spells, and shortly after was deemed worthless because they obviously were burning SP with unsatisfactory results. She has like 5 other abilities, at least try them.
  • Deeming Black Frost as underleveled and thus worthless when he still has the highest magic stat of any other persona (even Yukiko's? I forget) despite his level, and apparently from my count he was gaining a level every 2-or-so fights (Does the S.Link bonus effect gaining levels through combat as well as Fusions?).
  • Using Charlie as a Wind caster when his Persona's Heavy Wind was doing less damage than Yosuke's Medium Wind.
  • Burning through SP by casting spells depite wanting only to burn time until a weakness-hitter's turn came around, then going to bitch to fox.
  • I'm going to bet this is The Very Definitely Final Dungeon, and they obviously have a good amount of time until the fog-and-death event, so why are Rise's and Naoto's S.Link's left completely in the dust (there's GOT to be some huge bonus to Rise's max S.Link, at a guess, I bet it'll be something like auto-weakness-reveal) to bum-rush the dungeon. This is after they mention that the gameplay is somehow getting in the way of the story.
  • Still using Skull Cracker. In fact, still having it at all. Why?

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Posted by Daroki
@TDot said:
"man, this level is heartbreaking. Say without spoiling anything, if they get this level done with quickly does that mean the game will end quicker? because I want as much endurance run as possible."
Actually they have exams at the end of November and the beginning of December.  As everyone's saying, the most important "exam" takes place on December 3rd.
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Posted by Afroman269
@PeasForFees said:
" @Nizzleworth said:
" @Bureksasutlijom said:
"

Step 1: Avoiding the Bad Ending

After a major plot point the investigation team will all be together and Yosuke will begin a series of questions addressed at the the Main Character. The last word that Yosuke will say to the MC before he starts answering will be "...Leader?" After that you must answer his following questions with the following responses. Mess up once and it's bad ending for you. 

The Responses you should give to get on the True/Good ending path are...

  • First Question: Third Response
  • Second Question: First Response 
  • Third Question: Third Response
  • Fourth Question: Second Response
  • Fifth Question: Third Response
  • Sixth Question: Second Response

Congratulations! You're now on the path to the True/Good Ending!

0

Step 2: Securing the Good Ending

A number of days after the above events, the Investigation Team will do what they do best. Investigate! You will run around Inaba Investigating the case when you will initiate another important decision point. You will find the MC with Naoto and Yosuke and you will have 3 chances to make the right decision. It shouldn't be to hard to figure it out, but if you need some help, it's on the third page.

Once you've made the right choice, CONGRATS! You've ensured the Good Ending!

0

Step 3: Achieving the True Ending

If you ensured the good ending and you continue through the game it will eventually jump ahead in the calendar. You will then need to go around and find each of your buddies that you maxed your social link with. leave no stone unturned. 

Once you've talked to everyone, the game will prompt you to go home. Say no! 

Now head over to Junes. The game will try to get you home again. Say no once again and get your ass the Junes!!!

Once you've done the. Huzzah! You've Started the True Ending! Have Fun!

SPOLIER FREE Jeff and Vinny!
Do NOT eff up please man!
"
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Posted by DragonofFate
@Amp said:
" I've never even played Persona 4, and really haven't touched jRPG's in a long time and even I can tell there were some very disappointing mistakes this episode:

  • Tam Lin is CLEARLY (look at the stats, and Power Charge) a physical damage dealer, yet you replaced the one physical spell he has left and still left in Power Charge. Tam Lin is nigh-useless now except as a weakness-hitter when I bet that Deathbound and Power Charge could have made him a bane of existence.
  • Still insisting on using Chie as a caster when her ice spells are doing no more damage than a standard weapon attack.
  • For the short time Naoto was in, they never tried any of her abilities other than insta-kill spells, and shortly after was deemed worthless because they obviously were burning SP with unsatisfactory results. She has like 5 other abilities, at least try them.
  • Deeming Black Frost as underleveled and thus worthless when he still has the highest magic stat of any other persona (even Yukiko's? I forget) despite his level, and apparently from my count he was gaining a level every 2-or-so fights (Does the S.Link bonus effect gaining levels through combat as well as Fusions?).
  • Using Charlie as a Wind caster when his Persona's Heavy Wind was doing less damage than Yosuke's Medium Wind.
  • Burning through SP by casting spells depite wanting only to burn time until a weakness-hitter's turn came around, then going to bitch to fox.
  • Still using Skull Cracker. In fact, still having it at all. Why?
"
Quoted for great justice.
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Posted by RelentlessKnight
@Bureksasutlijom said:
"

Step 1: Avoiding the Bad Ending

After a major plot point the investigation team will all be together and Yosuke will begin a series of questions addressed at the the Main Character. The last word that Yosuke will say to the MC before he starts answering will be "...Leader?" After that you must answer his following questions with the following responses. Mess up once and it's bad ending for you. 

The Responses you should give to get on the True/Good ending path are...

  • First Question: Third Response
  • Second Question: First Response 
  • Third Question: Third Response
  • Fourth Question: Second Response
  • Fifth Question: Third Response
  • Sixth Question: Second Response

Congratulations! You're now on the path to the True/Good Ending!

0

Step 2: Securing the Good Ending

A number of days after the above events, the Investigation Team will do what they do best. Investigate! You will run around Inaba Investigating the case when you will initiate another important decision point. You will find the MC with Naoto and Yosuke and you will have 3 chances to make the right decision. It shouldn't be to hard to figure it out, but if you need some help, it's on the third page.

Once you've made the right choice, CONGRATS! You've ensured the Good Ending!

0

Step 3: Achieving the True Ending

If you ensured the good ending and you continue through the game it will eventually jump ahead in the calendar. You will then need to go around and find each of your buddies that you maxed your social link with. leave no stone unturned. 

Once you've talked to everyone, the game will prompt you to go home. Say no! 

Now head over to Junes. The game will try to get you home again. Say no once again and get your ass the Junes!!!

Once you've done the. Huzzah! You've Started the True Ending! Have Fun!

SPOLIER FREE Jeff and Vinny!
Do NOT eff up please man!
"
You should of post this when they get to the boss not right now. Don't worry about them.
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Posted by MassiveDuck

i think person makes a better story then a game. That could just be that i don't enjoy turn-based RPG's.  That said I get more and more wrapped up in the story every episode.  And really hope they continue the endurance run with a new game when this one is complete.

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Posted by Thomper

Did I miss something? No new episode yet for Monday? They're usually up by now.

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Edited by Orbi
@Thomper said:
" Did I miss something? No new episode yet for Monday? They're usually up by now. "
My bet is that the long-ass Matrix Online finale made them forget/not do today's episode of the Endurance Run.

I mean, there's not even a page up for this episode, so I guess they haven't even recorded it.
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Posted by Davin
@Orbi: Not a chance, they won't miss it because of that. Probably some kind of uploading issue.
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Posted by King9999
@guilherme said:
" When you can you HAVE to fuse Trumpeter, it's one of the best personas to have! "
Agreed.  I'm currently using Trumpeter for my New Game+ and steamrolling through bosses with Mind Charge + ZIodyne. :D
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Posted by tovan

Well they did mention something about a live Endurance Run a few days ago.

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Posted by Thomper
@Davin: Don't think so, last times they had uploading issues, they usually had at least an episode page up already, and the frontpage/thumbnail-picture for the episode was up in Drew's image-gallery. Neither of those are there yet.
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Posted by Kowbrainz

I'm with Thomper; if they had actually started uploading something there would be a page at the very least. :/

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Edited by tovan

Because if they're doing it live they would not have even recorded it yet.

They asked specifically "Do you guys want a live Endurance Run on Monday?" Followed by "It would be on the site later than usual"

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Edited by Vlaphor
@King9999 said:
" @guilherme said:
" When you can you HAVE to fuse Trumpeter, it's one of the best personas to have! "
Agreed.  I'm currently using Trumpeter for my New Game+ and steamrolling through bosses with Mind Charge + ZIodyne. :D "
I think the best part about Trumpeter is debilitate.  Lowers an enemy's attack, defense, hit rate, and evasion rate in one spell.  
Also, about spell master, when you max out Rise's Social Link, you get the ability to make Ishtar.  Ishtar starts out with Diarahan and can learn Spell Master, making Ishtar the best healing persona in the game.
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Posted by Wright

a live endurance run would be awful.

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Posted by ricetopher

Making a preemptive strike on a potetial flood of "WHERES MY ENDURANCE RUN!!11!!!" comments. According to Jeff's twitter, he's taping for an appearance on X-Play, so my guess is don't expect 121 till later today since it looks like they havent even recorded it yet.

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Posted by Sanj
@ricetopher said:
"Making a preemptive strike on a potetial flood of "WHERES MY ENDURANCE RUN!!11!!!" comments. According to Jeff's twitter, he's taping for an appearance on X-Play, so my guess is don't expect 121 till later today since it looks like they havent even recorded it yet. "

Ah...

But...

WHERE'S MY ENDURANCE RUN!?!?!?!?!?
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Posted by pbhawks45
@Sanj said:
" @ricetopher said:
"Making a preemptive strike on a potetial flood of "WHERES MY ENDURANCE RUN!!11!!!" comments. According to Jeff's twitter, he's taping for an appearance on X-Play, so my guess is don't expect 121 till later today since it looks like they havent even recorded it yet. "
Ah...But...WHERE'S MY ENDURANCE RUN!?!?!?!?!? "
YEAH!
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Posted by Kowbrainz

lol Xplay

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Posted by Jtan21

@Massive Duck
I definitely agree with you. I'm a bit naturally indecisive, so playing this game would be like hell for me, where everything is a decision. However, in this format, it is very enjoyable to watch someone else play, having them make the decisions. It's cool because Vinny and Jeff give you a sense of the thought process that people go through when playing. Also, I love that they frequently go for the craziest/funniest option, something I probably would never do when I am playing, which makes it more entertaining.

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Posted by papercut
@Bureksasutlijom said:
"

Step 1: Avoiding the Bad Ending

After a major plot point the investigation team will all be together and Yosuke will begin a series of questions addressed at the the Main Character. The last word that Yosuke will say to the MC before he starts answering will be "...Leader?" After that you must answer his following questions with the following responses. Mess up once and it's bad ending for you. 

The Responses you should give to get on the True/Good ending path are...

  • First Question: Third Response
  • Second Question: First Response 
  • Third Question: Third Response
  • Fourth Question: Second Response
  • Fifth Question: Third Response
  • Sixth Question: Second Response

Congratulations! You're now on the path to the True/Good Ending!

0

Step 2: Securing the Good Ending

A number of days after the above events, the Investigation Team will do what they do best. Investigate! You will run around Inaba Investigating the case when you will initiate another important decision point. You will find the MC with Naoto and Yosuke and you will have 3 chances to make the right decision. It shouldn't be to hard to figure it out, but if you need some help, it's on the third page.

Once you've made the right choice, CONGRATS! You've ensured the Good Ending!

0

Step 3: Achieving the True Ending

If you ensured the good ending and you continue through the game it will eventually jump ahead in the calendar. You will then need to go around and find each of your buddies that you maxed your social link with. leave no stone unturned. 

Once you've talked to everyone, the game will prompt you to go home. Say no! 

Now head over to Junes. The game will try to get you home again. Say no once again and get your ass the Junes!!!

Once you've done the. Huzzah! You've Started the True Ending! Have Fun!

SPOLIER FREE Jeff and Vinny!
Do NOT eff up please man!
"
Aww, Someone noticed my guide. how nice.
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Posted by Besetment

Re: Live Endurance Run

No.

Sincerely,
The undersigned

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Posted by CoinMatze
@Vlaphor said:
" @King9999 said:
" @guilherme said:
" When you can you HAVE to fuse Trumpeter, it's one of the best personas to have! "
Agreed.  I'm currently using Trumpeter for my New Game+ and steamrolling through bosses with Mind Charge + ZIodyne. :D "
I think the best part about Trumpeter is debilitate.  Lowers an enemy's attack, defense, hit rate, and evasion rate in one spell.   Also, about spell master, when you max out Rise's Social Link, you get the ability to make Ishtar.  Ishtar starts out with Diarahan and can learn Spell Master, making Ishtar the best healing persona in the game. "
For me, the best thing about Trumpeter were all those immunities. I somehow fused Repel Physical (probably from Rangda) and Repel Fire (Skadi) on it and from then on the game was pure cakewalk. Though I had to compromise offense for that. Later I switched to an Ishtar - Yoshitsune combo for my A-game. Having Spell Master and Cool Breeze on a persona really helped out with the sp problem. I just wished somebody told me on my first run through that I can get a persona with Victory Cry by the second or third dungeon through the whole Fusion Forecast thing.
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Posted by Liam_mk
God I hope they get the true ending, I want this to go on as long as possible.
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Edited by tovan

I'm lost without my Persona in the morning.

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Posted by Vinny

We'll be doing today's (08/03/09) run a little later today, maybe have a live stream as well??? Not sure yet, but either way, it will be up on the site a little later today, probably a few hours at least. BUFU!
 
Thanks,
Vinny

Staff
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Posted by pbhawks45
@Vinny said:
" We'll be doing today's (08/03/09) run a little later today, maybe have a live stream as well??? Not sure yet, but either way, it will be up on the site a little later today, probably a few hours at least. BUFU! Thanks, Vinny "
That's MABUFU to you, Mr. Vinny.
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Posted by tovan
@Vinny: Woah. thanks Vinny.
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Posted by Mordi

Wouldn't it be cool to have a T-shirt in the same style as "FUBU", only it says "BUFU" instead? Then of course have a silhouette of Jack Frost in place of the rhino somehow.

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Posted by Sanj
@Vinny:

Awesome. Btw Vinny, you guys let slip a major plot spoiler for P4 in the newest "I love mondays". Some people may be playing P4 and avoiding the endurance run until they catch up or something (i did just that a while ago). I'm sure you'd understand not wanting to know about that particular kidnapping until it happened!
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Posted by Conmused

Anybody who just saw twitter, may have seen jeff's twitpic: Looks like it might be' going live! http://twitpic.com/cn19p

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Posted by FluxWaveZ

Live Endurance Run of Persona 4?  Hmmm...  Maybe?  Not sure if that would be a great thing or a bad thing.

Online
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Edited by Curufinwe
@Tovan51 said:
" Because if they're doing it live they would not have even recorded it yet.They asked specifically "Do you guys want a live Endurance Run on Monday?" Followed by "It would be on the site later than usual" "
Obligatory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY

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Posted by Conmused

Whoever posted about Fubu brand being made to bufu, and changing the rhino to a jack frost silhouette? I think you confused Ecko with Fubu. Regardless, here you go:

1097289-bufuquickanddirty.jpg

( Quick and dirty, that's all the work I'll bother putting into these. :D )
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Posted by gakon

Yeah, I don't think I need it live.  The stream of stupid comments will drown out any useful advice people have for them.

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Edited by drewbert
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Posted by Nintaiyo

I don't know if a live stream of Persona 4 would work too well. The resolution of the streaming video isn't too great, and we probably couldn't read the text. Then again, if they're just dungeon crawling, it might be okay...

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Posted by ArcticDonkey

The live stream isn't great. I love the endurance run but i hope they just go back to daily videos.

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Posted by neon123

That stream / justin.tv thing is being flooded by spoilers (fake or non fake, I don't know), but beware before you go in there.