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Posted by Ventilator
@Darkstar614 said:
" @toadstule: I'm still playing P3 atm, and from what I can tell Trumpeter in P3 isn't nearly as good. It's a triple fusion, with Hamoan, Mudoon, Garudyne, And I don't think it learns anything worthwhile.
 
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Trumpeter was one of the 2 personas I switched between to kill the final boss of Persona 3.
Posted by gakon

Gotta love the "I'm looking this up NOW" tap-tap of the iPhone keyboard.

Edited by Zeik

 It's awesome that you guys managed to fuse Trumpeter, but for the love of god DO NOT IGNORE DEBILITATE! It's easily the most useful skill in the entire game for boss fights. I don't think I'll be able to look at you guys for awhile if I see you go into a boss fight and not use or get rid of it.

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Posted by Zokari

I really hope they don't end up replacing Debilitate, especially since Vinny didn't seem particularly enthusiastic about it. That move is the single most powerful boss killer in the game. It makes the last couple bosses completely trivial, especially if you pair it with some stat buffs on the party.

Edited by Darkstar614
@toadstule: I'm still playing P3 atm, and from what I can tell Trumpeter in P3 isn't nearly as good. It's a triple fusion, with Hamoan, Mudoon, Garudyne, And I don't think it learns anything worthwhile.
 
Kind of weird that they changed a lot of personas in P4, but it's definitely for the better.
 
and WOW I just remembered that they got rid of Masukukaja, geez.. haha! the ridiculousness of some of their choices is like "what?!" but I mean you cannot blame them for not knowing about the numerous things that aren't fully explained to you in this game.
Edited by Lilarcor

Alice was glowing because she's a special fusion. She can only be made by fusing Belial and Nebiros. It's a Shin Megami Tensei 2 reference, if I recall correctly. 
 
Debilitate is an incredibly useful spell against bosses, so make sure you hold onto it. Also, Wind Amp and Fire Amp stack with the Boost spells, so I personally suggest replacing Yosuke's and Yukiko's Break spells to make sure their attack magic does the maximum damage.

Edited by Turambar
@Yagami said:

" Got a question, why was Alice~ flashing purple?  Are there more Personae that does? What does it mean? And finally, if there are more of them, what happens if you fuse two of them?  I loved the Penis Persona. :P "

The Flashing Purple signifies a persona that can only be fused through one specific combination of double or triple fuses.  I think the other ones there are Norn, Naoto's lv10 S.Link, which is made through a triple fuse of the three fates, Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos, and Ardha, a Shiva and Parvati fuse. 
 
I'm honestly quite surprised they stumbled onto Alice.  It's a pity they're probably never going to fuse her since her spells are all heavily dark based, but DieForMe! is fairly awesome.
Posted by toadstule
@Wiseblood said:
" @Darkstar614 said:
" Trumpeter is such a beast, Debilitate on bosses is so amazing. For one turn you can cripple the boss to laughable status. Especially since they're rolling with yosuke who can cast Masukukaja on the party, and watch the misses fly.  I no longer have any doubts about them failing on the upcoming boss :D "
They chose not to learn Masukukaja because they didn't want to get rid of Sonic Punch.  Seriously. "
Gotta love the ER. It's full of surprises!
 
Also, can't wait to see the Trumpeter in action. That thing is a beast. I don't remember if it was that powerful in Persona 3.
Posted by Chaossebba

Oh wow, i havent even seen a purple glowing one in my persona 4 adventures

Posted by Turambar
@Cheesus: Nah.  She's learned rainy death, and getting God Hand soon.  There's no reason to use normal physical attacks anymore.
Edited by Dan_CiTi

NOOOOOOO MARA!!! Make sure to make Alice too!

Edited by PurplieNurplie

El Caliente in English is literally "the hot." Take that as you will...

Posted by Yagami

Got a question, why was Alice~ flashing purple?
 
Are there more Personae that does? What does it mean? And finally, if there are more of them, what happens if you fuse two of them?
 
I loved the Penis Persona. :P

Posted by bigall94

I'm so happy you guys have the badass Persona Trumpeter. Also, I was reading the comments and noticed someone mention Victory cry (EPIC!!!!!!!!!!). When I googled it, I found this really interesting page: 
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.Persona4 It lists all the cliches and idioms in Persona 4! There are hella spoilers but they are whited out if you don't want to see them. Very interesting...
Posted by Zeouterlimits

Didn't they make a Mara before?

Posted by RWill

Hey guys, great series. I've been running the videos almost on a marathon since I discovered them a few weeks ago, and I've just now caught up. Keep up the good work!
 
Also, the weird-looking fusion that you discovered (to make Alice) was a unique fusion. There are a few personas that can only be created by fusing specific personas together. As you've discovered, Nebiros and Belial make Alice. There are only four of these unique fusions in the game, and the other three will let you make Shiva, Norn, and Ardhanarishvara (my personal favorite). So keep fusing and keep an eye out!

Posted by ch3burashka

You guys need to get rid of Black Frost. You have level 70's! He's at 52! He's a lead weight around your scrawny necks!

Posted by Cheesus

Please listen to this, Vinny and Jeff:

Get the Demon Boots! Chie needs to stop missing all the time.

Also, it might be best if you gave her the ring Yukiko is wearing right now and give Yukiko the dodge ice thing again.The bad thing about her having a weakness isn't just her taking damage, it's much worse that the enemies get another turn in which they might just kill Charlie.

Posted by EvangelBlue
@core1065 said:

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Im so happy the ER is here im gonna have to do my persona 4 Ipod dance. 
 
  

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Awesome. So awesome. You should post that in the forums
Posted by Hoshnasi

Trumpeter is INSANE.  That thing looks mad buff

Edited by Eirikr
@RipTheVeins said:

" how the hell did Jeff not notice this?:
 


 
  too busy on his iPhone I guess. "
With most of him obscured by the S-Link bonus notifications, it pretty much hid what he looked like. Oh well, at least he made a cameo in this ER!
Posted by HT101

Man, a great episode and I can't wait to see them rape everyone with Trumpeter.  This game just got even more awesome.

Posted by skippyscissors

I do love me some fusing.

Posted by MeatSim

Nice, Trumpeter is the shit. Also once Chie gets her god hand and Yosuke and Yukiko get their wind and fire boost/amp stacks combined with your trumpeter, you will just destroy everything.

Posted by MoTheHawk
@North6: Nebiros and Belial are the ONLY two personas you can fuse to make an Alice.  Purple glowiness = unique fusion.  Another one will become available once they max out Naoto's S.Link.
Posted by core1065

Im so happy the ER is here im gonna have to do my persona 4 Ipod dance. 
 
  
  
Posted by North6

Im loving the personas they got, but why was Alice glowing and whatnot?

Posted by JarenFace

Just my little notes. 
 
-If you guys are feeling up for it, S.Link until the 20th/21st or so. You can take out this dungeon in a day if you're willing to pay off, and you'll max some S.Links in the process.  
-Debilitate + Heat Riser + Chie's God Hand = Game breaker, easy mode, etc. for bosses.
-Boost/Amps stack. It's something to keep in mind when Yosuke and a believe Yukkiko learn them for their elements (though you may run into items that add more than boosts later on). 
 
Other than that, what you guys are doing now is awesome. Can't wait to see where the ER goes :D

Posted by Scooper

They got some super strong Persona now I can wait until they get back in the dungeon

Posted by CitizenKane

Another long episode!  I still have to watch #141, though.  Damn school and work!

Posted by Chewii101

Looks like Reverse psychology does not work on the Persona Compendium. 

Posted by Wiseblood
@Darkstar614 said:
" Trumpeter is such a beast, Debilitate on bosses is so amazing. For one turn you can cripple the boss to laughable status. Especially since they're rolling with yosuke who can cast Masukukaja on the party, and watch the misses fly.  I no longer have any doubts about them failing on the upcoming boss :D "
They chose not to learn Masukukaja because they didn't want to get rid of Sonic Punch.  Seriously.
Posted by HatKing

Mara.  Not ok.
Posted by AllanIceman

Oh man, their going to destroy that next dungeon!

Posted by D_W

Oh man, you guys should have made Seth. He was like an upgraded version of Garuda.
Posted by RipTheVeins
@Crushed said:
" @RipTheVeins said:
" how the hell didn't Jeff notice this?:
  too busy on his iPhone I guess. "
 Seriously, I'm totally disappointed. I was waiting forever for them to find THE GIANT PENIS PERSONA and nothing happened. "
actually Vinny did say "this one looks kinda funny..." but I don't think he realized why.
Posted by Slaneesh
@Bigdonkey1 said:
"i had a dream where tanaka's show was actually being used to brainwash people so that an old woman with  a giant head.  tanaka himself was just a construct made to reflect the horrors of greed in people and he melted like a ball of wax "

It´s the goverment man! They control you in your sleep. GET BEND i say. GEET BEND!
Posted by Darkstar614

Trumpeter is such a beast, Debilitate on bosses is so amazing. For one turn you can cripple the boss to laughable status. Especially since they're rolling with yosuke who can cast Masukukaja on the party, and watch the misses fly.
 
I no longer have any doubts about them failing on the upcoming boss :D

Posted by Nexas

So no Alice then.
Posted by Crushed
@RipTheVeins said:
" how the hell didn't Jeff notice this?:
 


  too busy on his iPhone I guess. "
 
Seriously, I'm totally disappointed. I was waiting forever for them to find THE GIANT PENIS PERSONA and nothing happened.
Posted by Osiris

Trumpetor ftw :D

Edited by RipTheVeins

how the hell did Jeff not notice this?:
 


 

  too busy on his iPhone I guess.
Posted by Ventilator
@navyboy said:
" lol, wait till they see Victory Cry "
I Googled Victory Cry and holy shit,  their reaction would be awesome to see.
Posted by Wiseblood
@Farley_Lives said:
" Dude, they found the penis persona Mara and nothing? No jokes, so disapointing... "
Well, they were a bit distracted because they were trying to figure out how to get a Matador.
Posted by Dante_the_Jedi

This is getting really awesome.

Posted by MetalGearSunny

LOL
 
"Vinny, I'm pregnant."

Posted by ahoodedfigure

Dude, I hope you're not talking about Aeon Flux, Vinny :P

Posted by Curufinwe

I fused my Trumpeter the day before the Judgement S.Link started, then watched in horror as it went up a level almost every day after that.

Posted by Sarumarine

Damn Trumpeter has a lot of awesome skills. I never made one of those, I was too busy with the Hierophant quad fuse. Man, have fun with that dude. Cool Breeze is sweet! But it only affects you. Still, it's awesome.

Posted by Scotto
@Farley_Lives said:
" Dude, they found the penis persona Mara and nothing? No jokes, so disapointing... "
Maybe they just weren't paying enough attention, to see that it is basically a screaming octo-penis.
 
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