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Posted by _Horde
@SimonM7 said:
" Yeah, 19 minutes is definitely disappointing. I can't even recall a Persona ep that short. :( "
The very first where that short, but yeah, I had hoped for more VJ. :( They have to catch up!
Posted by EnduranceFun

19 minutes? I can endure a beating for twenty minutes - still, the disco comment got me. Good round of ERs. 

Posted by MeatSim

Why do we even bother making guns anymore steel pipes are obviously superior.

Edited by Death_Burnout

 So whats with peoples need to critique both Endurance Runs...i mean the first few days sure, i get it, even i did it....but it has gotten worse and it's mad dumb! enjoy both! or just the one, and leave it at that.
 
Though it is very fun to support one team or another, like a race of somesort, but it's almost becoming like the complaints on how they play the game. Yeah it is way frustrating to watch (which is why watching BR is both maddening and wonderful) at least it wont get, or at least i hope it wont get, as bad as Persona 4's league of nerds who could not shut up...but that was a JRPG and warranted to some degree. Someone, i forget who, did compare steel pipes to snuff souls...
 
Ok i'll shut up before someone drops the predictable, stop complaining about people complaining line.

Posted by Majkiboy
@samcotts said:
" @Liminality: No ways. Brad and Ryan seem like they're struggling to come up with anything to say at the moment, it's no longer funny. To be honest, the two most recent BR's I found to be boring, which is a first for me in ER history.  The only disappointing part of the VJ run is the episode length. Though I'm guessing they''ve been short recently as Jeff was flying off somewhere this week so they had to squeeze all the ep's in before he left. Otherwise, VJ are doing a great job. "
I found the recent BR's to be nicer and less frustrating to watch than the first ones... now they actually are doing things that i wanted them to do waay before :P AND they found how to open doors quickly XD
Edited by Capum15

"I wanna reload my pipe." XD
"Some...girl on girl...evisceration?"
Oh Vinny, you're awesome. Love the ER.

Posted by Catolf

Ahhhh VJ it was short, but I enjoyed it.

Posted by TheBrainSquid

You guys should definitely collect all the bones before meeting at the community center. If you have them before you meet Willie, you'll get a Magnum with unlimited rounds.

Posted by jmrwacko

15:00 omg Yu Yu Hakusho reference? seriously?

Posted by InternetDetective

Please make longer episodes in the future, regarding the game Deadly Premonitions. Also please acquire more (mucho mas) ASIAN HONOR. This is the kind of honor that brings honor to your family, it is shameful indeed not to get more.
 
longer eps plz

Edited by SquirrelGOD

They'll never catch up to the powerhouse that is Team BR!  MWAHAHAHA!  BR is fueled by pure contempt and morbid curiosity of this game!

Posted by HaYHaYHaY

They seem to not notice they can throw away melee weapons by using the "reload" key.  They should've used up or threw away the mission knife long ago.   I dunno why they are hanging on to it while not using it.

Posted by Babaganoosh

My theory is that, York was fired from the FBI, or was never FBI in the first place, because of mental instability. But he still rolls around solving crimes and shotting innocent people, who he perceives as zombies. All the vine/zombie/red stuff only happens when no one is around and none of the other characters seem to notice it either. 
 
But I think I'm giving the game too much credit.

Posted by forgot2register

I'm glad they're doing short ones, there are x number of hours in the game, the less time per episode the more episodes.  This game isn't persona 4 with nearly infinite possible hours.

Posted by HatKing

I like the smart ass nature of Jeff, but even as somebody not playing the game it is clear to me that you can "throw away" your melee weapon by pressing B while aiming with it.
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Posted by FLStyle
Dear Giant Bomb User(s) who's complaining about the lack of length in Team VJ's episodes,
 
You need to either sign up for Twitter or check Twitter more often. If you had you'd know that at this precise time Jeff is in Hawaii. This means that this week's episodes were filmed last week in order to get one out daily. This also means that they were done one after the other on the same day.
 
When Jeff and Vinny were doing the Persona 4 Endurance Run during times when they weren't at HQ during the week the recorded episodes were a lot shorter then too, like these episodes. It's happened before and it'll happen again before the end of this ER. You'll just have to bare with it until Jeff gets back.
Posted by myslead
@Babaganoosh: you are giving the game too much credits lol
Posted by Sarumarine

Live to profile. Profile to live. 
 
Heh, maybe the reason why York tosses bent pipes is because he had a bad experience with them in the past.

Posted by mutha3
@Death_Burnout said:

"  So whats with peoples need to critique both Endurance Runs...i mean the first few days sure, i get it, even i did it....but it has gotten worse and it's mad dumb! enjoy both! or just the one, and leave it at that.  Though it is very fun to support one team or another, like a race of somesort, but it's almost becoming like the complaints on how they play the game. Yeah it is way frustrating to watch (which is why watching BR is both maddening and wonderful) at least it wont get, or at least i hope it wont get, as bad as Persona 4's league of nerds who could not shut up...but that was a JRPG and warranted to some degree. Someone, i forget who, did compare steel pipes to snuff souls... Ok i'll shut up before someone drops the predictable, stop complaining about people complaining line. "

 
 That would be me.


And I already said this before, but: people aren't just yelling at them because of some attachment to this game, people are mostly yelling at them for doing dumb/ frustrating stuff that gives us tedious and overly long videos.
 
I mean....look at today's BR video. 80% of it was him staring at a map and groaning/whining about things which the game has informed him of(smoke cigarettes to make time pass). If he had just done that we could have gotten a video of  entertaining, weird dialogue and side-missions.
 
Instead we get 40 minutes of bitching about textures.
 
This was an issue with the previous ER as well, actually this ER hasn't even begun getting close to the tedious shit they did there. 
Where Jeff would complain about the game being ''too grindy'' after spending 2 hours in a dungeon waaaay under Charlie's current level. Or forgetting every episode what the triangle button does. Or never even looking at the fusion tutorial. Or spending 45+ minutes in the velvet room and then fuse nothing.
 
I did all 50 side missions in Persona 4(they did like 12 of those) and I spend an ungodly amount of time fusing and I always let the voice actors finish their lines, yet, I finished the game in 63 hours. 
 
 In the previous ER I groaned and face palmed almost every single episode.   The reason I keep complaining is, because, I don't want to see this shit happen again. We DON'T need to see them spend 15 seconds shooting a fence when they can just use one of their million steel pipes.
 
Its annoying to the viewers, its annoying to them. Nobody wins.
Posted by Keeng

LOL! Jeff and Vinny are so good at imitating the zombies. It gets me every time.

Posted by benitobb

Hahahaha, "this is where gears live, get you some".  great Borderlands reference.
Posted by JP_Russell

Why did Jeff and Vinny get a different blood sign on the door in the room with the hand tree from what Brad and Ryan got?  BR got the Spock hand, and VJ got like a hand making a "call me" gesture.
Posted by MeruFM
@Sarumarine: I'm not sure about you but I'm watching because I just like watching them play the game. No complaints about either team here.  
 
Considering all of this is technically just a waste of time/entertainment, the generic tip of "You don't have to be here" applies pretty well.
Posted by mutha3
@MeruFM said:
" @Sarumarine: I'm not sure about you but I'm watching because I just like watching them play the game. No complaints about either team here.   Considering all of this is technically just a waste of time/entertainment, the generic tip of "You don't have to be here" applies pretty well. "
Yeah, you figured it out. We're complaining because we want to see them do a 100% perfect speedrun.
 
Jesus Christ.... *facepalm*
Posted by MomentDEFINED

Why have we seen no achievements unlocked so far? I haven't taken a look at the list but it's making me curious.

Edited by CrimsonJester

If it's annoying to viewers, then they should not be viewers, go watch a quick look.  The idea is to watch how someone plays the game. I would prefer that they make t clear that they will not read the comments.  That will stop most complaints (most are complaining mainly so they can feel that they "taught" the players something.)

Posted by Vlaphor
@Ulong: The shotgun works ok, but the seven bones quest gets you something much better, and with unlimited ammo wallcrawlers.  Also, you can get the bones back, or turn in all seven bones to F.K and get the full reward/
Edited by mutha3
@CrimsonJester said:

" If it's annoying to viewers, then they should not be viewers, go watch a quick look.  The idea is to watch how someone plays the game. "

Why should they?
  
They're not ''just playing the game''  they're(team BR)  playing the game in an incredibly tedious manner, which only makes it harder for everyone involved. Let me repeat this again for all you frothing manchildren who jump at the  first oppurtinity to protect the staff's honour:
 
We are not asking for a professional speedrun.
 
We're just asking a base level of understanding basic videogame mechanics. 
 
''just playing a game'' and ''entertaining video content'' .......These two things are not mutually exclusive.
Posted by cordialsnail

I saw someone say on the comments that zombies appear in town after midnight.  Can't wait to see if that's true.  Heck, maybe it happens in the BR run, haven't watched it yet.

Posted by AlKusanagi

I'm just sticking with the V&J ER until I finish the game, then I'll go into Brad and Ryan's. And I guess the handknob sequence is random since I had to shoot the "Live long and prosper" hand sign in my game.
 
note to self: look for the unlimited ammo weapons people are talking about.

Posted by Sarumarine
@MeruFM:  
I'm just curious. What part of my post did you interpret as a complaint against Vinny and Jeff and/or Brad and Ryan's play style of the game? I was just trying to make a joke about tossing a bent pipe because York has something against them. Considering his long list of character quirks, I thought it would be funny. I'll be more careful in the future. I didn't mean to give you that impression.
Posted by MassiveDuck

i'm okay with them taking their time, it just means more episodes for me later.

Posted by PirateNeal
@mutha3: hey...fuck you buddy.
i really enjoy watching both sides, so your speaking for your self and maybe a couple other douches who like to bitch.
Posted by ashogo
@SimonM7 said:
" Yeah, 19 minutes is definitely disappointing. I can't even recall a Persona ep that short. :( "
Oh, they had a handful of 10-minute episodes back then too. Mostly in the middle of long, endless dungeon stretches. I'm sure things will pick up a little more once they're back in town.
Posted by mutha3
@PirateNeal said:
" @mutha3: hey...fuck you buddy. i really enjoy watching both sides, so your speaking for your self and maybe a couple other douches who like to bitch. "
OH NO HE HAS  INSULTED THE HONOUR OF THE GREAT AND MIGHTY GIANTBOMB
 
BURN HIM AT THE STAKES
Posted by crusader8463
@mutha3 said:
" @Death_Burnout said:

"  So whats with peoples need to critique both Endurance Runs...i mean the first few days sure, i get it, even i did it....but it has gotten worse and it's mad dumb! enjoy both! or just the one, and leave it at that.  Though it is very fun to support one team or another, like a race of somesort, but it's almost becoming like the complaints on how they play the game. Yeah it is way frustrating to watch (which is why watching BR is both maddening and wonderful) at least it wont get, or at least i hope it wont get, as bad as Persona 4's league of nerds who could not shut up...but that was a JRPG and warranted to some degree. Someone, i forget who, did compare steel pipes to snuff souls... Ok i'll shut up before someone drops the predictable, stop complaining about people complaining line. "

  That would be me. And I already said this before, but: people aren't just yelling at them because of some attachment to this game, people are mostly yelling at them for doing dumb/ frustrating stuff that gives us tedious and overly long videos.  I mean....look at today's BR video. 80% of it was him staring at a map and groaning/whining about things which the game has informed him of(smoke cigarettes to make time pass). If he had just done that we could have gotten a video of  entertaining, weird dialogue and side-missions.  Instead we get 40 minutes of bitching about textures.  This was an issue with the previous ER as well, actually this ER hasn't even begun getting close to the tedious shit they did there.  Where Jeff would complain about the game being ''too grindy'' after spending 2 hours in a dungeon waaaay under Charlie's current level. Or forgetting every episode what the triangle button does. Or never even looking at the fusion tutorial. Or spending 45+ minutes in the velvet room and then fuse nothing.  I did all 50 side missions in Persona 4(they did like 12 of those) and I spend an ungodly amount of time fusing and I always let the voice actors finish their lines, yet, I finished the game in 63 hours.    In the previous ER I groaned and face palmed almost every single episode.   The reason I keep complaining is, because, I don't want to see this shit happen again. We DON'T need to see them spend 15 seconds shooting a fence when they can just use one of their million steel pipes.  Its annoying to the viewers, its annoying to them. Nobody wins. "
Easily solution if you hate it that much. That's right, don't watch it. 
 
While you can get a free pass on the Brad/Ryan one since it's their first go at this, but you knew going in how Jeff and Vinny play games, if you watched the first ER as you said, so you have no reason to complain. Yes it's annoying and yes it's frustrating to watch them do some of the things they do, but that's how they play games and that's how they are going to continue playing them. No point in getting mad at it because nothing you can say or do will ever change it. If it bothers you that bad then, again, don't watch it and leave the rest of us alone so we can watch it and comment about it without needing to sift through all the hate messages telling them how to play.
 
I'm not saying your wrong about the mistakes they make, god knows they make tons of them, but you should know by now that's how they play and they don't care what anyone in the comments says. If you cant handle that then you know what to do.
Posted by Milkman
You can tell that Vinny and Jeff are definitely getting sick of this game. I can't say I blame them.
Posted by lordofultima
@mutha3 said:
" @CrimsonJester said:

" If it's annoying to viewers, then they should not be viewers, go watch a quick look.  The idea is to watch how someone plays the game. "

Why should they?    They're not ''just playing the game''  they're(team BR)  playing the game in an incredibly tedious manner, which only makes it harder for everyone involved. Let me repeat this again for all you frothing manchildren who jump at the  first oppurtinity to protect the staff's honour:  We are not asking for a professional speedrun.  We're just asking a base level of understanding basic videogame mechanics.   ''just playing a game'' and ''entertaining video content'' .......These two things are not mutually exclusive. "
You're wildly over-exaggerating. I think BR is a bit better IMO, because of how Brad has to be scolded about stuff.
Edited by mutha3
@crusader8463 said:

" @mutha3 said:


Easily solution if you hate it that much. That's right, don't watch it.   While you can get a free pass on the Brad/Ryan one since it's their first go at this, but you knew going in how Jeff and Vinny play games, if you watched the first ER as you said, so you have no reason to complain. Yes it's annoying and yes it's frustrating to watch them do some of the things they do, but that's how they play games and that's how they are going to continue playing them. No point in getting mad at it because nothing you can say or do will ever change it. If it bothers you that bad then, again, don't watch it and leave the rest of us alone so we can watch it and comment about it without needing to sift through all the hate messages telling them how to play.  I'm not saying your wrong about the mistakes they make, god knows they make tons of them, but you should know by now that's how they play and they don't care what anyone in the comments says. If you cant handle that then you know what to do. "
 
Um. While its true they tend act really dumb disregard clues from the game, they have proven in the past to at least listen to user comments. Vinny mentioned it even in Episode 4.  Its the only way they even made it past P4
 
So I say, no, complaing helps a lot. Besides, if they put videos out in the public, they open themself to criticism.
 
I assure you  that unlike some of the users here, they can take some criticism and they tend to listen to it.
Posted by Toxin066

Yo that zombie knows how to take a pipe.

Posted by Death_Unicorn

They really got those zombie impressions down.
Sometimes I dont know if its Jeff and Vinny making zombie impressions or an actual zombie.
haha.

Posted by LordAndrew
@JP_Russell said:
" Why did Jeff and Vinny get a different blood sign on the door in the room with the hand tree from what Brad and Ryan got?  BR got the Spock hand, and VJ got like a hand making a "call me" gesture. "
It's probably randomly chosen so you can't just shoot the exact same hand every time. Although apparently it doesn't matter if you shoot the wrong one...
Posted by ShinyD3mon
@MomentDEFINED said:
" Why have we seen no achievements unlocked so far? I haven't taken a look at the list but it's making me curious. "
I was curious myself, so I had a look at them..
 
They're all episode based, i.e. they unlock when you finish each episode. I'm almost positive they've just turned off notifications on the Xbox they're playing it on.
Posted by natetodamax

Starting to get boring.

Posted by RVonE
@mutha3 said:
"@crusader8463 said:

" @mutha3 said:


Easily solution if you hate it that much. That's right, don't watch it.   While you can get a free pass on the Brad/Ryan one since it's their first go at this, but you knew going in how Jeff and Vinny play games, if you watched the first ER as you said, so you have no reason to complain. Yes it's annoying and yes it's frustrating to watch them do some of the things they do, but that's how they play games and that's how they are going to continue playing them. No point in getting mad at it because nothing you can say or do will ever change it. If it bothers you that bad then, again, don't watch it and leave the rest of us alone so we can watch it and comment about it without needing to sift through all the hate messages telling them how to play.  I'm not saying your wrong about the mistakes they make, god knows they make tons of them, but you should know by now that's how they play and they don't care what anyone in the comments says. If you cant handle that then you know what to do. "
 Um. While its true they tend act really dumb disregard clues from the game, they have proven in the past to at least listen to user comments. Vinny mentioned it even in Episode 4.  Its the only way they even made it past P4 So I say, no, complaing helps a lot. Besides, if they put videos out in the public, they open themself to criticism.  I assure you  that unlike some of the users here, they can take some criticism and they tend to listen to it. "

I'm sorry, but saying that that is why they made it past P4 is giving Jeff and Vinny way too little credit. In fact, I'm starting to doubt you and I watched the same Persona 4 Endurance Run. 
 
That said, carry on your arguing because the internet is definitely serious business.
Posted by borgmaster

my guess, from now on the combat sequence episodes are gonna be 20-30 minutes and the non-combat episodes will go until they hit a combat sequence.

Edited by mutha3
@RVonE said:

" @mutha3 said:

"@crusader8463 said:

" @mutha3 said:


Easily solution if you hate it that much. That's right, don't watch it.   While you can get a free pass on the Brad/Ryan one since it's their first go at this, but you knew going in how Jeff and Vinny play games, if you watched the first ER as you said, so you have no reason to complain. Yes it's annoying and yes it's frustrating to watch them do some of the things they do, but that's how they play games and that's how they are going to continue playing them. No point in getting mad at it because nothing you can say or do will ever change it. If it bothers you that bad then, again, don't watch it and leave the rest of us alone so we can watch it and comment about it without needing to sift through all the hate messages telling them how to play.  I'm not saying your wrong about the mistakes they make, god knows they make tons of them, but you should know by now that's how they play and they don't care what anyone in the comments says. If you cant handle that then you know what to do. "
 Um. While its true they tend act really dumb disregard clues from the game, they have proven in the past to at least listen to user comments. Vinny mentioned it even in Episode 4.  Its the only way they even made it past P4 So I say, no, complaing helps a lot. Besides, if they put videos out in the public, they open themself to criticism.  I assure you  that unlike some of the users here, they can take some criticism and they tend to listen to it. "
I'm sorry, but saying that that is why they made it past P4 is giving Jeff and Vinny way too little credit. In fact, I'm starting to doubt you and I watched the same Persona 4 Endurance Run.  That said, carry on your arguing because the internet is definitely serious business. "
Thats the worst internet tough-guy  copout'''HUR Y SO SERIOUS?'; Yeah whatever,
 
And umm.. maybe your retarded or something, but the fact that they made the exact same Personas as people recommended and somehow always followed user advice and were obviously lying when they pretented to stumble  across the true ending make it painfully obvious they would have probably had twice the total playtime without the commenters.
Posted by Ansom
@mutha3: 
retarted - 13 definitions - One who has been given additional tarts.
Posted by mutha3
@Ansom said:
" @mutha3: 
retarted - 13 definitions - One who has been given additional tarts. "
:(
Posted by KrazyMiller

Makes me wanna play it myself.

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