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Posted by EvilNiGHTS
@Duffyside said:
" @EvilNiGHTS said:
" I'll probably be getting the disc. Keep forgetting it's coming out this Friday.   I wonder how many of the people saying Sands of Time was the only good one actually played the other two. Both had their faults but they're both vastly superior to the 2008 game and there haven't been many "cinematic platformers" (as Wikipedia calls it) to that standard since. "
Do you say this as a "diss" to 2008, or are you saying that even though 2008 was good, these games are better?  I ask because I love 2008. "
It's complicated. I liked 2008 enough to finish it, I thought the combat was cool in the sense that it harked back to the original 2D games, but as a big fan of the Sands trilogy I didn't get what I wanted from 2008. 
 
Main problem was in the platforming itself which seems to stem from fundamental differences in approach. In the Sands games there was very much the sense of having to think about what you were doing beforehand, whereas 2008 seems to have been designed with an emphasis on moving through areas quickly, and as a result I found the platforming more than a little shallow in 2008. Mostly from a lack of variance -- there simply aren't as many moves in the 2008 game -- and so the experience felt diluted into wallrun after wallrun while hitting a series of visual cues with input windows as wide as a house. Towards the end of the game I was beginning to think that Ubisoft should have patched in support for Guitar Hero controllers.
 
Which sounds like I hated it. I didn't, but I can't say I wasn't disappointed.
Edited by EvilNiGHTS
@Roger778 said:

" I have to say that I'm disappointed that this trilogy is not coming out on X-Box Live.  I've thought of playing Warrior Within and The Two Thrones for some time, considering that I've already got the Sands of Time.  Hopefully, Sony will import them over next year. "

 
I think it depends on how they're made. I get the impression that they're emulating and upscaling the PS2 version, which is probably easy enough to do already if the God of War Collection is any indication. It's probably worth pointing out that the last two games for the original Xbox aren't even on the 360's backwards compatibility list. 
 
Of course, I'm curious to see how that will affect the rerelease of Beyond Good and Evil...
Posted by SethPhotopoulos

will there be an online bundle?

Posted by Duffyside
@EvilNiGHTS said: 
It's complicated. I liked 2008 enough to finish it, I thought the combat was cool in the sense that it harked back to the original 2D games, but as a big fan of the Sands trilogy I didn't get what I wanted from 2008.   Main problem was in the platforming itself which seems to stem from fundamental differences in approach. In the Sands games there was very much the sense of having to think about what you were doing beforehand, whereas 2008 seems to have been designed with an emphasis on moving through areas quickly, and as a result I found the platforming more than a little shallow in 2008. Mostly from a lack of variance -- there simply aren't as many moves in the 2008 game -- and so the experience felt diluted into wallrun after wallrun while hitting a series of visual cues with input windows as wide as a house. Towards the end of the game I was beginning to think that Ubisoft should have patched in support for Guitar Hero controllers.  Which sounds like I hated it. I didn't, but I can't say I wasn't disappointed. "
Fair enough. I just finished Enslaved today, and if you think 2008 PoP had shallow platforming... whew boy. In PoP, at least you had to press the right direction and use more than one button. 
 
However, I really liked Enslaved. For the same reasons I loved PoP: amazing art style, great environments, lovable characters, and a good story. Admittedly, 2008 PoP didn't have a great narrative throughout, but honestly the end of that game is one of my favorite in gaming history. Two games I appreciate pretty much despite their middling "gamey" features.
Posted by radioactivez0r

I still have 2 of these for PS2.  If they think I'm going to spend $15 APIECE to play them with prettier visuals, they're smoking the good stuff. 

Posted by EvilNiGHTS
@Duffyside said:
" @EvilNiGHTS said: 
It's complicated. I liked 2008 enough to finish it, I thought the combat was cool in the sense that it harked back to the original 2D games, but as a big fan of the Sands trilogy I didn't get what I wanted from 2008.   Main problem was in the platforming itself which seems to stem from fundamental differences in approach. In the Sands games there was very much the sense of having to think about what you were doing beforehand, whereas 2008 seems to have been designed with an emphasis on moving through areas quickly, and as a result I found the platforming more than a little shallow in 2008. Mostly from a lack of variance -- there simply aren't as many moves in the 2008 game -- and so the experience felt diluted into wallrun after wallrun while hitting a series of visual cues with input windows as wide as a house. Towards the end of the game I was beginning to think that Ubisoft should have patched in support for Guitar Hero controllers.  Which sounds like I hated it. I didn't, but I can't say I wasn't disappointed. "
Fair enough. I just finished Enslaved today, and if you think 2008 PoP had shallow platforming... whew boy. In PoP, at least you had to press the right direction and use more than one button.  However, I really liked Enslaved. For the same reasons I loved PoP: amazing art style, great environments, lovable characters, and a good story. Admittedly, 2008 PoP didn't have a great narrative throughout, but honestly the end of that game is one of my favorite in gaming history. Two games I appreciate pretty much despite their middling "gamey" features. "
 
I agree the art direction was fantastic and the enviroments looked great (plus I really liked being able to revisit areas), it's at the most basic level a case of me not getting what I wanted from a game with Prince of Persia in the title. 
 
I tried the Enslaved demo but I think I might wait and pick it up on the cheap. A couple of things felt off about that game and I haven't quite forgiven the developer for Heavenly Sword just yet.
Posted by MAST
@Styl3s said:
"...either way no disc = no sale and i don't care for importing.  I am not a fan of digital download... "
So... You don't ever play games like Braid, Fat Princess, Limbo, etc. just because they aren't on a disc, and you have to download them digitally? I feel sorry for you then, because those are great games, and great experiences, and to miss out on them for such a stupid reason is unfortunate.
 
A digital future is coming in our lifetime (it's already here to a degree). Better get used to the idea.
Posted by MAST
Posted by Blueblur1

I'd buy a Blu-ray but not individual downloads. Fuck that.

Posted by Hector

No love for the 360?

Posted by awesomeusername
@crusader8463 said:
" I want a Ratchet and Clank and a Jack and Daxter collection. I never got around to playing those games in the PS2 days and would love to get a box set ala the sly copper one. "
Took the games right out my mouth. Only played two if the ratchets and the first jak. Even though I have jak 3, I'd rather play the second before the 3rd.
Edited by mordukai
@RockmanBionics said:

" I've played the first POP a ton of times, the second and third twice. I might want to revisit the second at some point but otherwise I think I'll be fine without this.  Good for people that've been missing out though. "

Took the words right outta my brains. I might get it when they have a sale on it and I want to increase my PSN level.  
 
@TurboMan said:
" Sands of Time is on the PSN today for $15....  ...the rest of the collection is pure shit. "
Come on! Warrior Within might went a bit too dark but the combat was light years away from Sands of Time and Two Thrones was good too. 
Posted by Everyones_A_Critic

I might buy these, I missed them when they first came out.

Posted by KillerFly

All three games are awesome.  Yes, Warrior Within has all that terrible baditude going on, but the game mechanics were still solid, and Two Thrones went back to the mood of the first game while continuing to improve the gameplay.

Posted by chronicsmoke

no  physical copy? Looks like Ill have to import

Edited by SleepyDoughnut
@KillerFly said:

" All three games are awesome.  Yes, Warrior Within has all that terrible baditude going on, but the game mechanics were still solid, and Two Thrones went back to the mood of the first game while continuing to improve the gameplay. "

The combat was fine, but was it just me or did Warrior Within have a lot of backtracking issues? I absolutely adored the first, but I found the second one had a lot of backtracking that was never really explained very well and I think I actually messed up and I got below a ledge that I couldn't get back up to and couldn't progress.
Posted by KillerFly
@SleepyDoughnut: 
 
Yes, Warrior Within had backtracking issues and was needlessly long.  If I had to pick one game of the three to be the worst, it's that one. But overall, all three are great games.
Posted by Toxin066

No physical copy? Count me out.

Posted by subyman

Thanks for killing backward compatibility sony

Posted by Atwa

Im glad we get them on blu ray.. prefer that. 

Posted by JJOR64

Glad to see it's coming to North America in some form.

Posted by Fearbeard

As much as I hate the idea of Sony killing backwards compatibility and pushing out these collections, I still find myself interested in them.  The added trophies provide a great excuse to go back and play some amazing games.  Though no physical copy is probably gonna make me pass on this one.

Posted by Kartana

This is the RIGHT way to do ' backwards compatibility'!

Posted by HydraHam
@MAST said:
" @Styl3s said:
"...either way no disc = no sale and i don't care for importing.  I am not a fan of digital download... "
So... You don't ever play games like Braid, Fat Princess, Limbo, etc. just because they aren't on a disc, and you have to download them digitally? I feel sorry for you then, because those are great games, and great experiences, and to miss out on them for such a stupid reason is unfortunate.  A digital future is coming in our lifetime (it's already here to a degree). Better get used to the idea. "
Never said i don't play them, i don't buy them. 
 
If i get a MS point card or PSN card as a gift i will use them, but i won't support DD with my money, i think it's bullshit,  i don't like having to rely on having internet or a program working in order to play or re-install, it's bullshit and i don't care for it, is it really that much more expensive to print on a disc? not to mention i have a bandwidth cap.
Posted by Ghostiet

I'd like to check this out, but I've played all three games to the point of absolute exhaustion, so I think I'll pass.

Posted by Tesla

The first one is the only one worth a damn.  Then it got all angsty and Godsmack.  

Posted by Belmont_Shadow

i wouldn't buy them. it's 720p but doesn't run at 60FPS. WTF is the point of rereleasing PS2 games if you aren't gonna smooth them out? Fucking useless. WW runs like a piece of shit. The textures are improved but the game runs as badly as it did on PS2.

Posted by popmasterruler

 Please let this be a sign that Conviction will come to PS3!

Posted by KyleBaron
@Belmont_Shadow said:
" i wouldn't buy them. it's 720p but doesn't run at 60FPS. WTF is the point of rereleasing PS2 games if you aren't gonna smooth them out? Fucking useless. WW runs like a piece of shit. The textures are improved but the game runs as badly as it did on PS2. "
This, in addition to the overall price of the collection at $45 + tax, is what's keeping me from going back to these old classics. 
 
I think I'll stick with the Sly, GOW, and ICO collections, thank you.
Posted by popmasterruler
@KyleBaron said:
" @Belmont_Shadow said:
" i wouldn't buy them. it's 720p but doesn't run at 60FPS. WTF is the point of rereleasing PS2 games if you aren't gonna smooth them out? Fucking useless. WW runs like a piece of shit. The textures are improved but the game runs as badly as it did on PS2. "
This, in addition to the overall price of the collection at $45 + tax, is what's keeping me from going back to these old classics.  I think I'll stick with the Sly, GOW, and ICO collections, thank you. "
 
 
I don't know what you guys are talking about because Warrior Within worked fine for me.
Posted by popmasterruler
@SleepyDoughnut said:

" @KillerFly said:

" All three games are awesome.  Yes, Warrior Within has all that terrible baditude going on, but the game mechanics were still solid, and Two Thrones went back to the mood of the first game while continuing to improve the gameplay. "

The combat was fine, but was it just me or did Warrior Within have a lot of backtracking issues? I absolutely adored the first, but I found the second one had a lot of backtracking that was never really explained very well and I think I actually messed up and I got below a ledge that I couldn't get back up to and couldn't progress. "

 
People are such hypocrites on backtracking
 
  
Posted by Pop

Give these to PC!!! I love these games!!!

Posted by Belmont_Shadow

@popmasterruler: 
 
It was laggy, buggy pile of crap. The game itself was the worst in the trilogy and quite average.
 
These collections are fine for companies but GOW collection was done superbly well, fixed 60FPS and high resolution and improved sound. It was worth buying because the game themselves were AAA hits relevant today. Out of the PoP Trilogy Sands of Time is the only one replaying or even playing. But my problem isn't with the games...it's the shoddy remastering. People Requested A Shadow/ICO trilogy, Sony didn't just put that out there....thousdands of peopel requested it. Ubisoft are just cashing in and doing a pretty damn lazy job of it. I think the US PSN release is better because you can buy Sands of Time and ignore the other games. You might as well just buy the friggin Trilogy on PC and play Hi res.
Posted by popmasterruler
@Belmont_Shadow: 
 
Well I enjoyed Warrior Within,sad to hear that you can't.

Posted by Belmont_Shadow
@Pop said:

" Give these to PC!!! I love these games!!! "

 
All threee games are ON PC as a trilogy pack.
  http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/905148/Prince-Of-Persia-Triple-Pack/Product.html?ptsl=1&ob=Price&fb=0
Posted by charlie_victor_bravo

Suck it, sony. Just release emulator for PS3 or ps2 with HDMI -connection.

Posted by elko84

I'd be interested in the Splinter Cell HD release

Posted by Raven_Sword

im FAAAAAAAR more interested in the Splinter Cell Remake Collection.
Posted by Faint

where's my final fantasy collection at yoooo yooooooooooooooooooo

Posted by sins_of_mosin

ZzzZzzZzz

Posted by MintBerryCrunch

Pass.

Posted by VAFrank

That pic is how the game looked on PS2. If you play the games on Steam they look incredible, and I'm guessing that is pretty much what you'll be getting with this.

Posted by NobleJon

Perhaps now is the time for finally buckling down and picking up a Play Station 3...

Posted by AhmadMetallic
@Krakn3Dfx said:
" EAT IT 360 OWNERS!  Oh wait, I own a 360.   Luckily, I also own a PS3.  Also luckily, I already own all of these on the PC and making them HD is just a matter of a resolution change. "
you're so awesome *_*
Posted by AgentJ

Thank god the PS3 is region-free. Import time baby :P

Edited by LiquidPrince
@Belmont_Shadow said:

"
@popmasterruler:   It was laggy, buggy pile of crap. The game itself was the worst in the trilogy and quite average.  These collections are fine for companies but GOW collection was done superbly well, fixed 60FPS and high resolution and improved sound. It was worth buying because the game themselves were AAA hits relevant today. Out of the PoP Trilogy Sands of Time is the only one replaying or even playing. But my problem isn't with the games...it's the shoddy remastering. People Requested A Shadow/ICO trilogy, Sony didn't just put that out there....thousdands of peopel requested it. Ubisoft are just cashing in and doing a pretty damn lazy job of it. I think the US PSN release is better because you can buy Sands of Time and ignore the other games. You might as well just buy the friggin Trilogy on PC and play Hi res. "

I disagree completely. All three were great, and the second was especially cool. Probably the best of the trilogy.
Posted by Piranesi

1080p still a struggle for you Sony? Best not put too much work into it, just dig up a couple of old games, tart them up and whore them out one more time ...
Posted by G0rd0nFr33m4n

Lame, as a 360 owner I don't like PoP exclusive for PS3 :(

Posted by Mevvem

I like the sudden remakes of good classics. Sly Collection, Prince of Persia etc.