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Posted by HelliSkelli

Is it me or does Oracle sound like the radio announcer lady from Disaster Report for the PS2?  I know almost NO ONE will even know what game that is but I like crappy/good games and that game is gold.

Posted by FlyingRat

That is very clearly Kevin Conroy...

Posted by MordeaniisChaos
@Silock said:
Don't start an mmo from scratch in a quick look, we don't get to see much : ( 
Hence quicklook. The character creation stuff in this is very important, and on top of that, usually when they do this kind of quicklook, it's because they've already played it and know it doesn't really matter: either way it's mediocre at best, and ultimately, it's an MMO. It doesn't really open up with new mechanics.
Posted by Silock
Don't start an mmo from scratch in a quick look, we don't get to see much : ( 
Posted by sissylion
@Agent47: Well Igor was the character that allowed you to fuse Personae and gave you guidance. Jeff would always do an impression of him, and one of the voices he makes in this video sounds similar to that. 
Posted by Agent47
@sissylion: I saw the Person 4 run but not all the parts.I didn't catch the Igor part.
Posted by sissylion
@Agent47: Oh, right. It's been two years since the Persona 4 Endurance Run. Means people won't get a reference.  
 
It's not important. Excuse me while I cry. 
Posted by Agent47
@sissylion: What is Igor?
Posted by sissylion

I know I'm really late on this, but Jeff's voice for the character sounds like his Igor. Which makes me really want Igor to start wearing a sick skull belt. 

Posted by Maxtown

Future Cop was Judge Dredd right?
Posted by The_Moose

no buy

Posted by TekZero

He's a mummy superhero....ladies. 

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Edited by Mooshu

"The GCPD and Haz mat  just can't handle it alo- 
  
-THIS IS BATMAN."

Posted by F_14_D_TOMCAT
@sawfish22 said:
"Ryan: "What's a street belt?"  Jeff:  "It's a belt you wear on the street." "

Duuuh !!
Posted by sawfish22

Ryan: "What's a street belt?" 
 
Jeff:  "It's a belt you wear on the street."

Posted by paisan13

Looks awesome ^_^

Posted by Agent47

This quick look is toooo good.I keep coming back to watch it over and over again.

Posted by Taipans
@Bruce:  Ugh.
Posted by kratier

 http://www.gogamer.com/DC-Universe-Online-Standard-Edition-with-In-Game-Bonus-Item-for-PC-Front-Page_stcVVproductId102027817VVcatId444710VVviewprod.htm
 
10 bucks cheaper than on steam
 
also you can get buddy keys from people, it gives you 7 to 10 days free playtime
 

Posted by ValiantGoat

Can we expect a review for this in the future?

Posted by ZmillA

lmao at jeff's whining

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Posted by DiGiTaL_SiN

Looking forward to this game's "Not Like This".
 
J/K

Posted by RVonE
@televisionomy:
Really?
Posted by demontium

hmmmm

Posted by drumpsycho89

this is really nice!!! i may look into this further!! 

Posted by BlazingWookie

laughed so hard...

Posted by televisionomy

ER Now1

Posted by mrcraggle

So is this worse than APB?

APB had an awesome character creator and wicked dance emotes. This seems pretty restricted in both areas.

Posted by darkjester74

I was fortunate in that a friend of mine gave me his buddy key.  Very different MMO, more like an action game than anything else.  Really enjoying it so far.  And I agree with the others, the value of this QL is strictly in the entertainment.  :-)

Posted by NoelVeiga
@MaddProdigy said:
" @NoelVeiga: But the combat system is only part of the game. So they went into WOW and pressed the auto attack button, ok. We still got to see the rest of the world, see the menus, the over all interface, the enemies, some story, etc. etc.  There's no problem with going into it "cold" like this. You obviously like the game a lot, you fee like it was given a disservice, but as a viewer who hasn't played the game I saw everything I needed to. "
Well, I would disagree. 
 
The interface makes perfect sense if you use a controller, the team seemed dumbfounded by it because they were using a keyboard and mouse. It was a missed opportunity to help the viewers, though, because many people playing are equally confused by the size of stuff and the amount of quickslots, so figuring out that the PC version not only supports but prefers a controller would have fixed an oversight of the developers. 
 
Sure, the voice acting is what it is (although they also were very confused about Kevin Conroy being in the game at one point), the story is flat to nonexistent and people got a good look at Gotham in-game (which, really, looks pretty cool), but if I had gone by the QL I wouldn't have bought it. I'm not in the business of paying routinely for a game that doesn't play well. 
 
And here's the thing, I'm not an activist towards the game at all. It is what it is. I can also tell you that it's short on content and people have capped it already and are waiting for the promised monthly content drops. I can tell you that PvP leads to massive ganking, which is not for everybody. I can tell you that the mission design is good, but nowhere near WoW. And yeah, if you play WoW maybe you want to wait, or pay for the Steam version, play the free month and go back to that.  
 
I don't mind those things, they are all true and should be mentioned in a review so that people can decide if this is worth their money. If the impression that you get about how the game plays is not true, not just incomplete but actually opposite to what the game is, though, I don't see how that gives you everything you need to see.
Posted by Bruce

I'm surprised how generic this looks considering its license. Oh well, not like anything is denting WoW a single bit anyway.

Posted by natetodamax

Awesome Quick Look! Many great moments throughout.

Posted by MaddProdigy
@NoelVeiga: But the combat system is only part of the game. So they went into WOW and pressed the auto attack button, ok. We still got to see the rest of the world, see the menus, the over all interface, the enemies, some story, etc. etc. 
 
There's no problem with going into it "cold" like this. You obviously like the game a lot, you fee like it was given a disservice, but as a viewer who hasn't played the game I saw everything I needed to.
Posted by Woodroez
@Taipans said:
" I had forgotten about this game for some time. I was a fan of City of Heroes many years back, but as with many it was more fun to create a character then actually playing the game long term. I have heard this title is switching to a free to play model very soon? If so I wouldn't mind giving it a shot. "

You must be thinking of Champions Online, made by the guys who did the CoH/CoV games. It's free-to-play starting the 25th.
Posted by Taipans

 I had forgotten about this game for some time. I was a fan of City of Heroes many years back, but as with many it was more fun to create a character then actually playing the game long term. I have heard this title is switching to a free to play model very soon? If so I wouldn't mind giving it a shot.

Edited by Woodroez
@FokisMoney said:

" @NoelVeiga said:

" @Woodroez said:


Oh wow, I had no idea. So is going with a guy with ranged stuff a mistake, or do they somehow work combos into that as well? "

 No, *every* character has both melee and ranged attacks, regardless of the option. Rifle just skins it as a gun. If you go to the menu there is a combo list that unlocks as you allocate points to the skills tab and it mixes up melee and ranged attacks.   It was a mistake in that it was misleading. They were playing as if the rifle was a weapon, when it's just a skin for the ranged side of combat (of course, different stats and effects for each attack, but the core system is the same with or without the gun) and they were pointing and clicking at stuff as a result, when that's not the way the basic set of attacks works.   So at no point during the QL did they fight people the way you're supposed to fight people in this game as a result of being confused by the fact that you can give your character model a gun but the game will still play as a brawler. Eventually you unlock tap versus hold combos. My character can choose between tap-tap-hold X, which does a lot of damage to a single enemy, or tap X-hold Y, which does AOE, or tap X-hold X, which does knockdown, so you have to choose the right combo for each situation. There are even air juggles in this thing.  It's what happens when they "go in cold". They can't stop to read every menu for fifteen minutes while we wait, so if they don't immediately "get" the game, the QL can paint a really unfair picture. I would prefer to wait a couple of hours for whoever is going to review it to play through every tutorial and understand what he's doing and then restart if needed, because I don't feel this helped anybody make an informed decision about whether or not the game is worth playing for them unless they are already playing it.It was the equivalent of people who keep tapping the autoattack button in WoW. "
i agree with everything you said, this is the first quick look i didnt enjoy, other than the hilarious commentary. I dont think they did a good job of showing the game at all. I picked it up on a whim and im really liking it  so far. It seemed to me like they weren't interested in really enjoying it so they didnt. Still the love the guys this is just my opinion.  "
Thanks for the detailed reply, Noel. Having not really paid attention to this game since I'm not an MMO kind of guy  usually,  none of that was readily apparent until I started reading these comments and put them together  with that combos menu that Vinny viewed momentarily. If it fleshes out over time, that actually sounds pretty rad. That and the traversal stuff sounds like a great time, as someone who played Crackdown and Prototype to completion.
 
And I agree with your assessments, both of you. The Giant Bomb staff can probably get away with 'going in cold' with a Call of Duty or a Street Fighter or what have you; things that are known quantities. In this case, however, I am coming to the conclusion that both the game and the viewers were done something of a disservice.
Posted by cetecete

A little boring missions, uh? Maybe, I've played too many hours on City of Heroes/Villains and Champions Online and I'm tired of superhero MMO's :s

Posted by FokisMoney
@NoelVeiga said:
" @Woodroez said:


Oh wow, I had no idea. So is going with a guy with ranged stuff a mistake, or do they somehow work combos into that as well? "

 No, *every* character has both melee and ranged attacks, regardless of the option. Rifle just skins it as a gun. If you go to the menu there is a combo list that unlocks as you allocate points to the skills tab and it mixes up melee and ranged attacks.   It was a mistake in that it was misleading. They were playing as if the rifle was a weapon, when it's just a skin for the ranged side of combat (of course, different stats and effects for each attack, but the core system is the same with or without the gun) and they were pointing and clicking at stuff as a result, when that's not the way the basic set of attacks works.   So at no point during the QL did they fight people the way you're supposed to fight people in this game as a result of being confused by the fact that you can give your character model a gun but the game will still play as a brawler. Eventually you unlock tap versus hold combos. My character can choose between tap-tap-hold X, which does a lot of damage to a single enemy, or tap X-hold Y, which does AOE, or tap X-hold X, which does knockdown, so you have to choose the right combo for each situation. There are even air juggles in this thing.  It's what happens when they "go in cold". They can't stop to read every menu for fifteen minutes while we wait, so if they don't immediately "get" the game, the QL can paint a really unfair picture. I would prefer to wait a couple of hours for whoever is going to review it to play through every tutorial and understand what he's doing and then restart if needed, because I don't feel this helped anybody make an informed decision about whether or not the game is worth playing for them unless they are already playing it.It was the equivalent of people who keep tapping the autoattack button in WoW. "
i agree with everything you said, this is the first quick look i didnt enjoy, other than the hilarious commentary. I dont think they did a good job of showing the game at all. I picked it up on a whim and im really liking it  so far. It seemed to me like they weren't interested in really enjoying it so they didnt. Still the love the guys this is just my opinion. 
Edited by NoelVeiga
@Woodroez said:


Oh wow, I had no idea. So is going with a guy with ranged stuff a mistake, or do they somehow work combos into that as well? "

 
No, *every* character has both melee and ranged attacks, regardless of the option. Rifle just skins it as a gun. If you go to the menu there is a combo list that unlocks as you allocate points to the skills tab and it mixes up melee and ranged attacks.  
 
It was a mistake in that it was misleading. They were playing as if the rifle was a weapon, when it's just a skin for the ranged side of combat (of course, different stats and effects for each attack, but the core system is the same with or without the gun) and they were pointing and clicking at stuff as a result, when that's not the way the basic set of attacks works.  
 
So at no point during the QL did they fight people the way you're supposed to fight people in this game as a result of being confused by the fact that you can give your character model a gun but the game will still play as a brawler. Eventually you unlock tap versus hold combos. My character can choose between tap-tap-hold X, which does a lot of damage to a single enemy, or tap X-hold Y, which does AOE, or tap X-hold X, which does knockdown, so you have to choose the right combo for each situation. There are even air juggles in this thing. 
 
It's what happens when they "go in cold". They can't stop to read every menu for fifteen minutes while we wait, so if they don't immediately "get" the game, the QL can paint a really unfair picture. I would prefer to wait a couple of hours for whoever is going to review it to play through every tutorial and understand what he's doing and then restart if needed, because I don't feel this helped anybody make an informed decision about whether or not the game is worth playing for them unless they are already playing it.It was the equivalent of people who keep tapping the autoattack button in WoW.
Posted by Woodroez
@NoelVeiga said:
" @kerikxi said:

" The real question with an action MMO is latency. If the servers can keep up with what's going on, the gameplay looks promising but... terrible, terrible UI. Too much clunk in here. And menus cover the whole screen! The game isn't pausing y'know, we might have to see what's going on.  That said, I'm half interested in the PS3 version, but the PC version would be infuriating. Just depends how well the buttons are mapped I suppose. The PC config isn't encouraging. "

PC version plays just like the other one with a 360 controller. Which is pretty well. I'm really enjoying this whole MMO action game take they have going on. It does work.   But let me be clear, this game on a keyboard and mouse is not ideal. Think playing God of War on a keyb and mouse. There are tons of combos where you need to tap a button twice then hold another one, then trigger+button and stuff like that. This is NOT an RPG by any means...  But yeah, with a controller, this works pretty well as a multiplayer brawler, both on PS3 and PC. Except for movement powers. Movement powers are frustrating in this, making you stick to every stupid surface, like lampposts and benches. Fliers are ok, I guess.  "
Oh wow, I had no idea. So is going with a guy with ranged stuff a mistake, or do they somehow work combos into that as well?
Posted by Happy_Werewolf

Not a huge MMO fan but I've been interested to see how this turns out. I like the idea of playing alongside classic DC characters in some of the missions.

Posted by AxleBro
@Shinri:  bro, here's the brutal, honest, truth... you ready? ok! 99.99% of the internet and 99.9999999% of the world, don't give a shit about your opinion(or FETISH) on human bodies covered in fur with animal heads. get over yourself and don't post comments just to get attention because of your CRAAAAZY opinion about furfags. 
 
/nolongercares
Posted by RiotBananas

To all the haters, I've got to say try it before you spout paragraphs of uneducated bullshit about a game you've not played. 
 
This is the only MMO that's stopped me playing WoW.

Posted by Ben99

OMG WHY DOES HE SCROLL SO DAMN SLOW . make up your mind already and show the fucking game 

Posted by tobygw

I wish that the game was cheaper. I just can't swallow 60 dollars then another 15 per month.

Posted by Scrumdidlyumptious
@whatthegeek said:
" I've heard a lot of negative feedback about this game, and I'm honestly kinda surprised. I've played for about twelve hours now, and so far, I like it. Don't get me wrong, it has it's flaws. Jeff was on the money when he mentioned some of the reads being flat in this week's happy hour, but for the most part, the voice work is great. Mark Hamill makes a great Joker, and there's a lot of other great talent in this game. The rest of the audio (sfx, music) is jank as hell.   The gameplay is enjoyable - unlike most MMO's I feel like I'm actually fully in control of what's going on during combat. Everything is still determined by "dice rolls" behind the scenes, but outwardly, the game carries a more action based feel.   My one big complaint is the menu system. Clearly, the menus were designed for the PS3, which I guess is fine, if you're playing it on a PS3, but on the PC, it just doesn't work.   Overall, the game is fun, but like most MMO's it's going to take a few patches before it's really polished.  "
Most of the negative feedback is coming from people who haven't played it anyway (which happens with every game release on the internet) and Jeff has very specific tastes, so it was obvious he wouldn't like this game from the get-go. The worst thing about this game is the chat window and profanity filter, but that can be fixed with a patch. I agree the interface could definitely use some work as well. Everything else is stellar and it's a really fun game. I didn't even know about this game until 3 days ago when I saw it on Steam and bought it straight away because it looked neat. I don't regret the purchase.
Posted by Vegetable_Side_Dish

B4tm4n rolls deep, yo.

Posted by Nettacki
@whatthegeek said:
" I've heard a lot of negative feedback about this game, and I'm honestly kinda surprised. I've played for about twelve hours now, and so far, I like it. Don't get me wrong, it has it's flaws. Jeff was on the money when he mentioned some of the reads being flat in this week's happy hour, but for the most part, the voice work is great. Mark Hamill makes a great Joker, and there's a lot of other great talent in this game. The rest of the audio (sfx, music) is jank as hell.   The gameplay is enjoyable - unlike most MMO's I feel like I'm actually fully in control of what's going on during combat. Everything is still determined by "dice rolls" behind the scenes, but outwardly, the game carries a more action based feel.   My one big complaint is the menu system. Clearly, the menus were designed for the PS3, which I guess is fine, if you're playing it on a PS3, but on the PC, it just doesn't work.   Overall, the game is fun, but like most MMO's it's going to take a few patches before it's really polished.  "
Yeah, I have the same sort of viewpoint. Maybe if the price goes down, gets patched up, and gets rid of the subscription fee, I'll buy it in the future.
Posted by Maclintok

This QL was hilarious.  One of the best I've ever seen.

Posted by Aarny91

 This is the best quick look.