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Posted by TheWesman

On a side note:  I don't even know what a Qriocity is.

Posted by MrAristocrates
@Cusseta said:
" @FoxMulder:

Have fun never playing Gears of War, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Left4Dead, Crackdown, Dead Rising, Fable, etc... 

The whole, "I'm gonna stick with the PS3 because of its exclusives" argument is ridiculous.  As a previous owner of both systems (I had a PS3 up until just BEFORE the network crash), I will totally admit to the greatness of Uncharted 2, LBP, Heavy Rain, etc... but to use that as a reason NOT to buy a 360 is mind-boggling.  Either you don't have enough cash to own both (which is a good excuse) or you're just plain being a fanboy.  The PS3 exclusives DO NOT trump the 360 exclusives listed above.  Likewise, the 360 exclusives DO NOT trump the PS3 exclusives.  They're different.  Period.  Have fun never seeing the other side while those around you do.  "
OH THANK GOD SOMEONE WITH SENSE.

With all this console wars BS it feels like 2007 all over again.
Posted by copycatzen

As long as it is up by the time I am on vacations, I will be happy
Edited by Cusseta
@FoxMulder:

Have fun never playing Gears of War, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Left4Dead, Crackdown, Dead Rising, Fable, etc... 

The whole, "I'm gonna stick with the PS3 because of its exclusives" argument is ridiculous.  As a previous owner of both systems (I had a PS3 up until just BEFORE the network crash), I will totally admit to the greatness of Uncharted 2, LBP, Heavy Rain, etc... but to use that as a reason NOT to buy a 360 is mind-boggling.  Either you don't have enough cash to own both (which is a good excuse) or you're just plain being a fanboy.  The PS3 exclusives DO NOT trump the 360 exclusives listed above.  Likewise, the 360 exclusives DO NOT trump the PS3 exclusives.  They're different.  Period.  Have fun never seeing the other side while those around you do. 
Posted by MajesticOverlord

This sure is taking its time. If I don't get to play Demon's Souls by the time they close their servers I will go Postal. 

Posted by Xanth93
@Xpgamer7 said:
" I understand they needed time. But by now it's getting ridiculous. "
The fact that they had no patches or firewalls makes it impossible for me to be okay with them taking so much time to fix their mistake. They should have kept it up to date in order to stop this from happening in the first place.
Posted by TheJoker138
@shodan2020: Live was actually only down for about a week, and it was only some users who had problems.  For all users it was only down for, I believe, 3 days or so.
Posted by SethPhotopoulos

Get me some sales.

Posted by KaosAngel

...so any takers on what Zipper's next game is gonna be?

Posted by shodan2020
@SlashseveN303 said:
" @Punk1984: Yeah, you're right, by the time I was growing up arcade's were a myth that older kids talked about, and the only proof we had of their glory days were people on our street with Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter II cabinets in their garage... which now that I think about it is pretty amazing, but back then it was just, "oh, you have an arcade cabinet, that must have run your parents like, what, 20 dollars at a garage sale?" "
What....garage....sale?!?!?! :D
Posted by shodan2020

The downtime sucks, but Live was down for about a month too a time ago. Why do you think I love Steam as much as I do now? :)

Posted by Flesseck

So sorry to PS3 owners... :(

Posted by Jayross

aaaw shit...

Edited by warmonked

didn't they say they were physically moving to a new datacenter? I would've been stunned if they had been able to acquire all the necessary servers, start them all up, migrate all the data and also have their new server software in place, in a week.

Posted by AjayRaz

i don't mind waiting. i have some games that i haven't finished, and i've been having some good times on xbox live. although when PSN is back up, i'll have to take a stab at some more Uncharted 2 MP

Posted by ReyGitano
@Punk1984: Yeah, you're right, by the time I was growing up arcade's were a myth that older kids talked about, and the only proof we had of their glory days were people on our street with Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter II cabinets in their garage... which now that I think about it is pretty amazing, but back then it was just, "oh, you have an arcade cabinet, that must have run your parents like, what, 20 dollars at a garage sale?"
Posted by Artisan88
@Skytylz:  Had the same thought. It will be interesting nonetheless to see what they say about it at E3... whether they don't mention it at all (awwkkkwaaard), apologize profusely, chest bump about their improved security and free ps+ offering, or throw some humor at it... or some combination of those. At any rate I'll have my popcorn ready!
Posted by Punk1984
@SlashseveN303: Man you kids don't even know I used to only have co-op at the arcade...(grabs walker and saunters off to yell at ungrateful brats)

Posted by ReyGitano
@Punk1984: Yes the days of couch Co-Op were good and plentiful, but they are gone now for the most part. Maybe next semester when I move in to my new place I'll be able to revive those days.
Posted by BestUsernameEver
@Zabant said:
" This PSN outage has been upgraded from rub it in for a laugh to actual pity for PSN users.

I stick with xbox live over my ps3 because that is where my friends are, however if you're one of the unlucky folks to have all their friends on PSN and cant play anything online i do feel sorry for you.
"
Glad to see people that think brand loyalty is a dumb part of gaming and feel for fellow frustrations. I would be pissed about PSN more if I didn't own a gaming PC, but Steam is pretty much good enough right now. Sure would like to play MK online though. 
Posted by Xpgamer7

I understand they needed time. But by now it's getting ridiculous.

Posted by Punk1984
@SlashseveN303: Sorry to hear that but this is how it always used to be...back in the dork ages
Posted by ReyGitano
@Punk1984 said:
" @SlashseveN303 said:
" I can't believe how long PSN has been down for now. I know it's stopped me from playing Portal 2 Co-Op with a friend of mine who owns the PS3 version. He's moved on to playing Mortal Kombat in single player, spending his days pretending the AI are real people. "
You and your friend should get out and spend some couch co-op time at each other's place "
I moved away from my friend to go to UC Berkeley, so that's quite impossible at the moment, then again, so is PSN.
Posted by N7
@Punk1984 said:
" @SlashseveN303 said:
" I can't believe how long PSN has been down for now. I know it's stopped me from playing Portal 2 Co-Op with a friend of mine who owns the PS3 version. He's moved on to playing Mortal Kombat in single player, spending his days pretending the AI are real people. "
You and your friend should get out and spend some couch co-op time at each other's place "
With peanut butter and no pants.

Ohhhhh yesssss.
Posted by Punk1984
@SlashseveN303 said:
" I can't believe how long PSN has been down for now. I know it's stopped me from playing Portal 2 Co-Op with a friend of mine who owns the PS3 version. He's moved on to playing Mortal Kombat in single player, spending his days pretending the AI are real people. "
You and your friend should get out and spend some couch co-op time at each other's place
Posted by ReyGitano

I can't believe how long PSN has been down for now. I know it's stopped me from playing Portal 2 Co-Op with a friend of mine who owns the PS3 version. He's moved on to playing Mortal Kombat in single player, spending his days pretending the AI are real people.

Posted by sixpin
@N7: That's cool. The article I read made it sound otherwise. Thought it seemed odd.

@dezvous: Short answer is: Yes. I'm just baller that way.
Long answer: I find your assessment of my habits in regards to my hobby ridiculous and a little judgmental. They may not seem prudent to your standards, but I play a lot of games and have a career that demands a good deal of my time. Besides, most games don't have enough to offer more than one play through. Once I know the story I have little interest in going through it again. My time is of more value to me than $60.
Posted by Shadow

Having been away from my PS3 since this whole mess started and knowing I will still be without one for the next 5 weeks, I just find all of this hilarious.

Posted by Zabant

This PSN outage has been upgraded from rub it in for a laugh to actual pity for PSN users.


I stick with xbox live over my ps3 because that is where my friends are, however if you're one of the unlucky folks to have all their friends on PSN and cant play anything online i do feel sorry for you.
Posted by dezvous
@sixpin said:
" @Pr1mus:  I rarely ever play games more than once"
That's kind of ridiculous. Do you make a habit of spending 60 dollars on things that you only use once?
Posted by FinalCut
@MordeaniisChaos said:
" @Bloodgraiv3 said:
" @zAMERICANLIONz said:
"I am on the verge of selling my PS3 and getting a 360. This is complete horse shit.  "


I'd rather them take their time to ensure it stays secure this time then having it up early with only half of its shit working,  you know. Common sense.


 

"
Don't bother being reasonable with these people. They get pissed for them "not putting enough into security in the first place" but then when Sony is fixing the issue to the extent of it's ability, people get pissy. Their just going to listen to all the unconfirmed rumors flying around (which seriously, are getting kinda disgusting. So many places are just pretended to have information or putting up rumor after rumor that they probably started as if it was just news.) and act like Sony is the worst company in the world.I'd love to see who these people blame when they get a virus or their facebook/email is hacked. It's always some one else's fault, right? It's not their fault for having crappy passwords, or for using limewire, or whatever other security risks they take, but when Sony has the same thing happen on a large scale, it's 100% their fault and they should be wiped off the face of the Earth for not having the most potent and impenetrable security system imaginable by man.I'd say if it makes good games, it'll hopefully make for a good reboot of PSN. "
QFT. People need to calm down. Most likely MP and Trophy syncing will be up very soon with ALL of the services (Folding@Home, Home Etc.) at a latter point.
Posted by Redbullet685

Damn.

Posted by N7
@sixpin said:
" @Pr1mus: The immediate need for access to the DLC content for me is that I plan on playing this game on the 17th and I rarely ever play games more than once, as I just don't have time. With the amount of bonuses I'm getting with my Gamestop pre-order I definately want them as soon as possible. Gamestop is offering an additional case file, a Thompson Machine Gun, and some sort of collectible badge quest that unlocks a suit. That is content that I'll most likely never see if I can't access it before I finish the game. Also, I read that the 360 version is going to have some sort of tracker that shows you statistics on what decisions people make during investigations and the like. Not that the last feature is a deal breaker, but it is interesting. At this point I think the only thing that would make me switch my pre-order over to PS3 is if the 360 had some major performance issues or that one extra case somehow mattered more than shooting a few dudes and stealing their wagon. "
That's available for all versions of the game.
Posted by Skytylz

What if it's not back by E3, that would be the most interesting press conference ever!

Posted by Druminator

Damn!!!

Posted by sixpin
@Pr1mus: The immediate need for access to the DLC content for me is that I plan on playing this game on the 17th and I rarely ever play games more than once, as I just don't have time. With the amount of bonuses I'm getting with my Gamestop pre-order I definately want them as soon as possible. Gamestop is offering an additional case file, a Thompson Machine Gun, and some sort of collectible badge quest that unlocks a suit. That is content that I'll most likely never see if I can't access it before I finish the game. Also, I read that the 360 version is going to have some sort of tracker that shows you statistics on what decisions people make during investigations and the like. Not that the last feature is a deal breaker, but it is interesting. At this point I think the only thing that would make me switch my pre-order over to PS3 is if the 360 had some major performance issues or that one extra case somehow mattered more than shooting a few dudes and stealing their wagon.
Posted by frondoni
@Pr1mus: No doubt its an over reaction to change consoles, but you can't just equate this to any ol' outage, especially not the relatively tame ones in Live's past
Posted by Pr1mus
@frondoni said:
" @Pr1mus:  That outage was maybe a week, though I think a bit shorter. This offline spell has already lasted longer, has the potential for credit card or identity theft, and there's still no end in sight.

So, you know, if you're going to try and make that comparison, might want to think about some key differences first.
"
I'm not an idiot, i know the gravity of stolen info, but the harm is done, the best one can do, which i did is change all password which were the same, change Credit Card number etc, this took 10mins. Once that is taken care of which everyone should have done already if they are the least bit worried about that, all there's left to do is wait for the service to come back.

Now swapping console, friends to play with and turning away from Infamous, uncharted, god of war, and Killzone isn't exactly the brightest idea in the world.

Like i said the harm is done. And changing console now isn't gonna fix this. So might as well wait, and continue playing those awesome games.
Posted by frondoni
@Pr1mus:  That outage was maybe a week, though I think a bit shorter. This offline spell has already lasted longer, has the potential for credit card or identity theft, and there's still no end in sight.

So, you know, if you're going to try and make that comparison, might want to think about some key differences first.
Posted by SHADOWINFINITE

Your kidding me....

Posted by regularassmilk

I just wanna play some fucking games.

Posted by TeflonBilly
@l4wd0g said:
" Sony really likes lying to their consumers. It's very troubling. "
Dude, they've lied about stuff pertaining to Playstation for years.
And I mean, not in a cagey way like most businesses do. They just plain pull stuff out of their ass.
Ever since they showed off the so-called real time sequences of the dancehall scene in Final Fantasy VIII running on a PS2 to steal the Dreamcast's thunder, I haven't believed anything from their press conferences.
I trust Kaz Hirai, Jack Tretton and the now gone Ken Kutaragi even less than Gamespot.
Edited by ProfessorEss
@Pr1mus said:

" @Cusseta said:

" @ProfessorEss: More like: The end of PS3I know a dozen people (literally) who traded in their PS3s for 360s this past week. "

Did those same people traded their 360 for a PS3 during xlive's outage over the holidays back in 07 or 08? "
I'm assuming most of them just wrote that off as a two day outage due to an unexpected amount of traffic.

I suppose some people would consider that the same as the system being shutdown for over a month and leaking personal information but you know, people set their own limits I guess.
Posted by Sooty
@BestUsernameEver said:
" @sixpin said:
" Kind of puts a damper on the PS3 versions of Brink and LA Noire this month. "
Most likely not LA Noire, mainly because it has an uphand over 360 with only one disk, but yes, I feel bad for SOCOM, MK, Portal 2 ps3, and Brink owners.  "
but judging from GTA IV and RDR it'll have the downside of inferior framerate and visuals.

...though apparently it uses a different engine but it still looks a lot like RAGE so the above could still hold true.

I'm definitely going PS3 for it though, I got Dead Space 2 on 360 and sort of underestimated how annoying disc swapping is. I never thought I'd replay it the amount of times I did.

Maximum laziness.
Posted by l4wd0g

Sony really likes lying to their consumers. It's very troubling.

Posted by WiredFolf
@UnsolvedParadox:

SOE is still down and it's been a full week since they took down the servers. At least with PSN they're giving some type of estimated date of return. SOE seems tight lipped about when it'll return with the last update being the middle of last week saying the servers will be back up friday at the earliest.
Posted by Pr1mus
@Cusseta said:
" @ProfessorEss: More like: The end of PS3I know a dozen people (literally) who traded in their PS3s for 360s this past week. "
Did those same people traded their 360 for a PS3 during xlive's outage over the holidays back in 07 or 08?
Posted by Pr1mus
@sixpin said:
" @Branthog: Haha, I don't remember ever having scratched a game disc, but I see your point. The exclusive case sounds interesting for sure. I never played the PS3 version of Red Dead Redemption, I wonder how that exclusive mission turned out? "
The exclusive in the PS3 version wasn't much in RDR. It was an hideout, kill a couple guys, get in the wagon and drive it back to Armadillo while more attackers come after you. Still it's better then nothing. 

In any case, only one disc, an exclusive case, trophies will always sync later if PSN is still not back by then and DLC and pre order bonuses can always be acquired later, and especially the pre order crap which really only a tiny fraction of those you will play the game will have anyway. I think PS3 version is still the way to go since there's no immediate need for online stuff in a single player only games. People putting L.A. Noire in the same category as Brink are just overreacting.
Edited by ProfessorEss
@nick_verissimo said:

" So, if nothing else, Sony is probably going to do everything in it's power to get everything back up and running by E3. If they can't do that, the general mood around all Sony ventures is going to be even worse than it is right now. "

The sad part is (and I'll admit this is me being overly cynical for the sake of being cyincal) that this is probably Sony's #1 concern right now.

...well #2, right after stock prices.

...okay #3, right after stock prices and lawsuits.
Posted by BestUsernameEver
@sixpin said:
" Kind of puts a damper on the PS3 versions of Brink and LA Noire this month. "
Most likely not LA Noire, mainly because it has an uphand over 360 with only one disk, but yes, I feel bad for SOCOM, MK, Portal 2 ps3, and Brink owners. 
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