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Edited by MrAristocrates
@CL60: They did have the right to sue if they thought there was a threat to their investments, and there was. As I mentioned, Geohot also didn't have the right to modify software that he didn't own. 
 
Geohot jallbroke, which is different from what he did with the PS3. With the PS3, he cracked the system to bring back a feature that had a gaping security flaw and was thus removed. He was sued because the security of their consoles was at risk.
Posted by FoxMulder

Patrick Klepic = GeoHotz????

Posted by MrAristocrates
Also, I'd like to say that I pointed out that Patrick looks like Hotz months ago, and no one noticed. -_-
Posted by DG991

@AriesDog: When has he ever done anything to hurt people? He has only helped users.

Posted by ATTILAtheFUN

@MrAristocrates said:

Also, I'd like to say that I pointed out that Patrick looks like Hotz months ago, and no one noticed. -_-

dude, you are totally right

Posted by Legend

@random_guy23 said:

alex, your articles continue to be hilarious, keep that up!

Yeah, I don't care what the article is about anymore. If it's written by Alex, I'll read it.

Posted by Brodehouse

I really wish Alex would stop giving hackers spotlight. I'd love to hear the change in his tune when they decide to hack Whiskey Media. Why would they? Why do they do anything, for money and to prove they can.

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Posted by tourgen

Facebook soon to achieve douchebag critical mass.

Posted by Magesx

That guy's fuckin' face

Posted by Keen_12

Patrick, if you see this, you're way better looking than George Hotz.

Posted by Wright

facebook cares about your privacy!

Posted by Geralt

Some how after reading the comments, the picture of a vulnerable young girls screaming "Please! Stop hating/punching/killing him! He had done nothing wrong!" comes to mind :1

Posted by WrathOfBanja
@kingando420 said:
The only reason that people hate this guy so much is because he interferred momentarily with their Sony ball licking.
I hate this guy because he quit before he could accomplish anything besides damaging Sony.
Posted by VooDooPC

I would punch in him in the face just because, look at it! Yikes! Couldn't make it look any worse.

White guy with a lot of curly hair and everyone says, "OMG, is that Patrick!?", this guys looks nothing like Patrick.

Posted by Mummenschanz

Hmm. Well, I hope the job is at least soul-sucking. Seriously, that guy is the worst.

Posted by RoyCampbell
@Brodehouse said:

I really wish Alex would stop giving hackers spotlight. I'd love to hear the change in his tune when they decide to hack Whiskey Media. Why would they? Why do they do anything, for money and to prove they can.

No. For this line -- of which I'll post below  -- to have ever existed, we needed an article like this.
 
"One could easily see the two of them becoming fast friends, going on coding dates together and curling each other's hair."
 
It's totally worth it.
Posted by sreya92
@YukoAsho
 He didn't do anything criminal that's the problem. He didn't steal his PS3, he just found out that there was a master key and then cracked it. It's his hardware he can do what he wants with it.Now before I go farther let me inform you why he did it. PS3 originally had a Linux OS on their system that they eventually blocked due to whatever reasons they found, essentially bannig the ability to put homebrew apps on the PS3. This pissed off a lot of people because the Linux OS was a big deciding factor for them in buying a PS3 and Sony essentially said, "Just kidding you can't have that feature anymore" and removed it.  
 
Following this injustice by Son, GeoHotz took apart the PS3 and discovered a master key. He then figured out the key code and realized that it allowed people to install homebrew apps back onto the PS3, giving back to the people one of the main features of the PS3. He then posted the code online.  
 
Now the problem is that the code allows one to also do illegal stuff like steal copyrighted property (like video games) and play them on the PS3. Obviously this pissed Sony off and they proceded by suing GeoHotz. Now the reason why a lot of people are pissed at Sony is because they feel (as do I) that GeoHotz didn't do anything wrong in "jail breaking" the PS3 since he owned the hardware often using the analogy of a buying a car and then altering the engine, seats, etc. to your personal preference. They saw a giant corporation, Sony, trying to lay the blame of their incompetence in keeping their system secure on one student. Which quite frankly is unfair. 
 
Now, the question is did he facilitate the piracy of games? Yes, I guess he did and were he to confess that that was his main reason they probably could convict him on it but he claims it was so that owners could continue to use homebrews. But was it wise for Sony to sue him? Obviously not since it's now known that pissing off hackers is basically inviting ruin upon yourself. What they should have done is offered the guy a damn job to help build a more secure system.  
 
Fighting hackers is like trying to win a war against guerrilla fighters. You're not going to beat them because they're not going to take you head on. They're going to hit you when you're not looking and then hide, and even when you get a few, more are going to pop up. Microsoft has realized this, and has taken a more amiable approach towards hackers, offering rewards for the most creative way to hack the Kinect, or the first to jailbreak their phone, etc.  
 
So the moral of the story is don't fuck with hackers and don't pick on the little guy.
Posted by Brackynews

That's...

Hot?

Posted by afrofools

"One could easily see the two of them becoming fast friends, going on coding dates together and curling each other's hair." - very funny.

I don't think that desk job would be very quite, but you're probably being sarcastic about it :)

Posted by librariangmr

Great. Does this mean we can stop talking about him now?

Posted by MrAristocrates
@sreya92: No. That's not how it works. Yes, he owned the hardware. He did not, however, own the software. When you buy a copy of software, you don't own that, it is licensed to you, and one of the terms of that license is that you're not going to fuck around with it. Other OS was poor and slow, was added in an update (and was thus not a launch feature), was never advertised by the company (and thus could not really be called a "selling point"), and the reason it was banned was because it created a security flaw.  
 
Also, "This pissed off a lot of people because the Linux OS was a big deciding factor for them in buying a PS3 and Sony essentially said, "Just kidding you can't have that feature anymore" and removed it."
 
Bull-fucking-shit. I assure you, very, very few people who weren't cops bought a PS3 just to run Linux, and again, Sony had a legitimate reason
 
Anyway, Hotz didn't have any right to go cracking the software, especially not with the intention of distribution, and it doesn't matter if his intentions were to let people play homebrews or open fucking donut shops, he did something that allowed piracy, and thus got sued.
 
 You don't seem to know what you're talking about. Like, at all. Plus, don't call Hotz "the little guy" when he constantly acts like a smug douche.
Posted by MrAristocrates
@VooDooPC said:

I would punch in him in the face just because, look at it! Yikes! Couldn't make it look any worse.

White guy with a lot of curly hair and everyone says, "OMG, is that Patrick!?", this guys looks nothing like Patrick.

This picture doesn't do it justice. There's a pic back from April or May where it was uncanny.
Posted by peteisfat

Alex Navarro, snarky snark snark.

Posted by Vigorousjammer

Oh Alex, you always write the Snarkiest of articles, I love it.

Edited by kingando420

Yeah alex your so hilarious, hahahah curly hair hahahahah coding dates, wow. That and the extremely high proportion of people wanting to punch this guy (or worse) because of his face?! 
 
People on this site need to grow up.

Posted by Three0neFive
@kingando420 said:
Yeah alex your so hilarious, hahahah curly hair hahahahah coding dates, wow. That and the extremely high proportion of people wanting to punch this guy (or worse) because of his face?!   People on this site need to grow up.
Seriously. I love how people here constantly shit on other sites because of their communities (GAF, IGN, etc.), yet talk about killing and raping some dude because they think he hacked a bunch of websites - which is blatantly fucking false, by the way.
Posted by YukoAsho
@MrAristocrates said:
@sreya92: No. That's not how it works. Yes, he owned the hardware. He did not, however, own the software. When you buy a copy of software, you don't own that, it is licensed to you, and one of the terms of that license is that you're not going to fuck around with it. Other OS was poor and slow, was added in an update (and was thus not a launch feature), was never advertised by the company (and thus could not really be called a "selling point"), and the reason it was banned was because it created a security flaw.  
 
Also, "This pissed off a lot of people because the Linux OS was a big deciding factor for them in buying a PS3 and Sony essentially said, "Just kidding you can't have that feature anymore" and removed it."
 
Bull-fucking-shit. I assure you, very, very few people who weren't cops bought a PS3 just to run Linux, and again, Sony had a legitimate reason
 
Anyway, Hotz didn't have any right to go cracking the software, especially not with the intention of distribution, and it doesn't matter if his intentions were to let people play homebrews or open fucking donut shops, he did something that allowed piracy, and thus got sued.  You don't seem to know what you're talking about. Like, at all. Plus, don't call Hotz "the little guy" when he constantly acts like a smug douche.
I was actually going to bring up the whole code-as-IP thing.  Thanks for saving me that argument. 
 
However, the saga with Hotz has taught me one thing.  Some people will rationalize anything done to businesses, regardless of how flimsy the justification.  I don't see why, if Hotz was SO enamored with the idea of Linux on a PS3, he couldn't do something along the lines of Xbox Linux.  Unless of course he wanted to help the "free games on PS3" movement.
Posted by Krystal_Sackful

I hate his stupid face. I hate his stupid voice. I hope the rest of his life will be miserable.

Posted by Xpgamer7

And so begins the destruction of facebook.

Posted by Kintaro

The end totally gave away that Alex wrote this.

Edited by Spike94
@Saga said:


               

@Thusian: That's incorrect. The one that encouraged hack attacks was Sony by implementing a mediocre network security system. Lets remember that they had to go outside Sony to find out what was going on.


           

That's like saying a woman who wears skimpy clothing is "just asking to get raped". Although all he did was jailbreak it, he -did- still open the door for the crap to come in, the way I see it. 
 
EDIT: I think I see what you were saying now. They didn't encourage it, but they definitely should have had better security (obviously). When will corporations learn: Going "Ahh that probably won't happen," almost ensures it will...
Posted by chucknorris101

hes fugly

Posted by Doomshine
@kingando420 said:
People on this site need to grow up.
@kingando420 said:
The only reason that people hate this guy so much is because he interferred momentarily with their Sony ball licking.
Oh you!
Posted by rmanthorp

@Kintaro said:

The end totally gave away that Alex wrote this.

Haha yeah, you can here him say "And, like, not go to jail." so much!

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Posted by Nate_is_my_fake_name

No one's personal information on Facebook is safe!
 
Oh wait...

Posted by AriesDog
@DG991 said:


                   

@AriesDog: When has he ever done anything to hurt people? He has only helped users.



                   

               


Who has he helped? Was there some great outcry from the public needing to crack the firmware? Sony was forced to remove the Other OS option when hackers exploited it to play pirated games. There's no reason to crack the system firmware except to pirate games or mod the system so users can cheat in online games. To quote moms everywhere, "This is why we can't have nice things." 

GeoHot wasn't a white hat hacker quitely letting Sony know there was a flaw in their security. He did what he did for hacker glory. Which is what concerns me about the news that he's behind the scenes at a site that houses so much personal and business info.

Posted by Khann

God some people in these comments can talk some bullshit.

Posted by jamesisaacs

Yep now facebooks backdoors will be wide open for more ugly nerds to exploit.

Posted by Eijikun

I'm no lawyer, but I don't think getting a job will keep you from going to jail. But if I'm wrong....Casey Anthony, Hooters is hiring! If a job she can get, you must acquit!

Edited by Marokai

What a completely unnecessary article that almost serves as the perfect subtle satire of Alex's style of writing articles at this point. At least other times he can occasionally channel his bitterness into actual news stories. Has Alex broken out a "I bet this guy is living in his parent's basement, amirite?" in any articles, yet? Hopefully as time goes on he can continue perfecting his dude-on-the-internet-being-so-much-cooler-than-you persona with more time.

Posted by Marokai
@SithLibrarian said:

Great. Does this mean we can stop talking about him now?

No, Alex's next article will be dedicated to rumors of when Hotz gets a girlfriend. And when he stops working for Facebook he'll write another article calling him an ugly loser but somehow manage to pad it out to four paragraphs. And then the comments can be full of totally misinformed idiots lumping in Hotz with the PSN security breach for some fucking reason, and we can all continue picking on him for some totally inexplicable reason, led by a supposed "news" writer.
Posted by chaosnovaxz
@AriesDog said:
@DG991 said:


                   

@AriesDog: When has he ever done anything to hurt people? He has only helped users.



                   

               


Who has he helped? Was there some great outcry from the public needing to crack the firmware? Sony was forced to remove the Other OS option when hackers exploited it to play pirated games. There's no reason to crack the system firmware except to pirate games or mod the system so users can cheat in online games. To quote moms everywhere, "This is why we can't have nice things." 

GeoHot wasn't a white hat hacker quitely letting Sony know there was a flaw in their security. He did what he did for hacker glory. Which is what concerns me about the news that he's behind the scenes at a site that houses so much personal and business info.

OR, just to play with the tech. I personally have no interest in that, but some people do.
 
What you're saying is as retarded and ignorant as saying (like the tired old argument) that everyone who buys a gun is going to murder someone. Ever thought they might be gun enthusiasts that just want to fire some weapons in their back yard?
 
It's completely ridiculous how everyone jumps straight to the negatives of every situation.
 
Say you see someone buying a set of silverware, and swearing up and down they're going to use it to eat with, are you going to call bullshit and accuse them planning on murdering someone with the knife? Really?
Posted by MrAristocrates
@chaosnovaxz: The point isn't his intentions, it's that the software wasn't his to mess around with. He didn't have the right to crack it.
Posted by chaosnovaxz
@MrAristocrates
 
I'm not arguing with you on that, even though I don't agree with the way the law works on that. But, law is law. We only own the hardware, not the software, I get that, as strange of a concept as it is.
 
I was simply calling out ignorance. Just because negative things can be done with certain developments and instances, doesn't mean they always will be. Labeling anyone and everyone who tries to modify their PS3's software a pirate is stupid and inaccurate.
Posted by MrAristocrates
@chaosnovaxz: I understand. If Geohot had done this to his own console, we wouldn't have heard about it. The reason for the lawsuit was because he intended to distribute it, which gets companies really angry.
Posted by chaosnovaxz
@MrAristocrates
 
Which I understand also, or at least try to. It's hard to empathize when you're on the consumer side.
 
 I almost even have a lack of empathy when it comes to piracy issues. I get that widespread copying kills a good bit of business, but lending the game to a friend also renders them able to play a game for free without compensating the developers and publishers, yet no one seems to think that borrowing a game crosses the same moral line as piracy, for whatever reason, though the end results are near identical. Perhaps the scale and digital nature account for the difference?
Posted by MrAristocrates
@chaosnovaxz: I think it's because with piracy, as opposed to lending, the same number of copies of the game have been bought, but the number of people with access to the game increases. In short, the number of illegal copies will keep rising, while the number of legal purchases will stay the same.
Posted by Baconator

Aww, anticlimactic indeed. I was hoping for a one last big hack before riding into the sunset and never to be heard of again ... until ... twenty years later, when he announces Skynet ... launching in North Korea.

Posted by chaosnovaxz
@MrAristocrates
 
That makes sense, but the pirated copies are rarely, if ever, being sold, to take money from the industry to an undeserving bootlegger. In essence, piracy is just one dude buying the game and continually lending to large groups of friends, which is why I wondered if scale was a factor in the moral classification. If piracy were to miraculously completely end, wouldn't game lending still leave the same problem of people playing for free when they could be buying?
 
I'm sure I sound like some pirate apologist, and maybe I am, but I definitely see the problems it forces onto the industry.
 
Does giving a game away AND having a way to keep it for yourself (if you've bought it) really cross a moral line that simply giving away a game doesn't cross? That seems like a stretch.
Posted by YukoAsho
@Eijikun said:
I'm no lawyer, but I don't think getting a job will keep you from going to jail. But if I'm wrong....Casey Anthony, Hooters is hiring! If a job she can get, you must acquit!
I think the implication is that he won't make another stupid move for hacker glory because he has better things to do with his time than be a fucking asshole and ruin everyone's fun.
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