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Posted by bricewgilbert

Anti-science, anti-empiricism, anti-democracy. The bane of human existence.

Posted by leebmx

I hope all the bookshops take note and start removing John Stuart Mill and David Hume from their philosophy sections. According to his facebook page he was a big fan of these two as well.

Posted by TheChaos

People buy games at retailer stores?

Posted by Beaudacious

Guys am currently using Cheese to train for my violent anarchist revolution, so once they capture me don't be surprised if they ban all Cheese Worldwide.

Posted by gike987

The most surprising thing about these news is the fact that Coop sells games.

Posted by Dixavd

I don't think this will be an indefinite blocking of the titles, it seems more of a reactionary term to try and get as many people to let go and stop thinkign about what happens - the fact they are willing to take that into consideration first whether there is scientific fact on studies with violent games or if it affects their profit seems quite commendable. I would probably guess they want to ake there stores a place where people can go and get away from the story for a bit while there and the titles will probably return by the Autumn (at least in their stores that aren't in the area of where it happened which they may leave the games off for longer). Although I have never been to Norwya or heard of this store but it seems like the most logical reason they did this.

Posted by dvorak

They might as well have just said "We're actively trying to put ourselves out of business! Let's see how long it takes! WOOOO!"

Posted by fisk0

@Claude said:

@Disease said:

Whatever.. nobody buys their games at a Coop store here in Norway

Are they pretty big or something or are they trying to get their name in the media?

At least in Sweden Coop owns one of the biggest chains of grocery stores, they also have some electronics stores, but nothing that's really focused on games or other entertainment, mostly the hardware stuff. They do usually carry a small selection of cheap games though, mainly the biggest titles and a selection of budget/platinum/classics titles.

Posted by vinsanityv22

That's actually  not that bad. Seems almost like they're doing it out of respect for the victims now. The games'll come back eventually - they even said so themselves. In the meantime, maybe some customers to that store will check out some non-shooters? Hopefully. There are a TON of great games out there; some of which aren't even violent. I always hate it when people think games are exclusively violent - it's just that these people are informed by their boyfriends of whatnot, and their bf's are idiots who ONLY play shooters. 
 
And ignore much better games like Ico, Enslaved, Zelda, Mario, or even Mirror's Edge, which was more about running away from people with guns than actually shooting back at them. That's a problem for the entire mainstream perception of video games, unfortunately. Shooters rule the day, in more ways than one. And that's a shame. Because they're seldom the most memorable titles out there.

Posted by McGhee

This just in.

"Random psycho #13,424 was known to enjoy the violent sport of football. Retailers have now indefinitely pulled all footballs from their shelves."

Posted by Black_Rose

Seems reasonable to me. 

Posted by Dialyctic

Pointless, but eh. Doesn't hurt anyone.

Posted by Qodot

MY SON KILLED 200 PEOPLE TO TRY AND GET A PURPLE DROP

Posted by fisk0

@Swervinmonkeyz said:

Anyone gonna mention the guy was a right-wing, Christian fanatic? No? WELL HE WAS.

There's also the fact that you don't have to play MW2's No Russian scenario to get inspired either, similar attacks (in method, not targets or scope) are an every day occurance in parts of the world. You don't have to go further than to watch a news broadcast to learn that terrorists often use police uniforms to get the confidence of their victims before carrying out an attack. Or for that matter, there are several classic movies with somewhat detailed depictions of the planning and execution of terrorist attacks - Pontecorvo's 1966 "Battle of Algiers" comes to mind, with it's objective, almost documentary, depiction of the preparations for bombings of cafes, night clubs and an airport.

There's also the more recent Der Baader Meinhof Komplex and Battle for Haditha, and well, of course, the Bible itself features quite a few graphical depictions of what you're allowed to do to heathens in God's name.

Posted by YukoAsho
@CptBedlam said:

PR moves. Don't be surprised if you find these games again on the shelves in a few weeks.

I think more to the point, other game stores are going to have a field day taking the profits that the controversy will bring.
 
Anyone who believes gaming had anything to do with video games has their heads up their asses and is unwilling to see the truth - the world's populaces are embracing extremist ideologies, and it's only going to get more and more violent as time goes on.
Posted by Jeust

What about movies and all other works of art considered violent? 
 
Games as a scapegoat yet again.

Posted by Max_Hydrogen

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are... A stage production at my school replaced a fake gun with a banana because of the Dawson College Shooting... These trite gestures don't actually accomplish anything and they just feed the fear driven herd mentality (notice how no one apologized to the Dixie Chicks after it became fashionable to hate Bush again...?)

What do video games even have to do with that incident anyway?! Did he even mention video games? No, he wrote a 1500 page manifesto about Islam and multiculturalism; no mention of video games. That guy had served in the army; maybe instead of banning the virtual people and their pretend world of video games, they should ban actual violent real people who kill others in the real world...

Here's an idea: when a real person kills another real person we could ban them and take them out of circulation so the general public doesn't come into connect with them; in other words: put them in prison... By removing violent video games, certain people are implying that video games are responsible for these kinds of incidents, or else, why remove them...?

Sucks.

Edited by fisk0

@Max_Hydrogen said:

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are... A stage production at my school replaced a fake gun with a banana because of the Dawson College Shooting... These trite gestures don't actually accomplish anything and they just feed the fear driven herd mentality (notice how no one apologized to the Dixie Chicks after it became fashionable to hate Bush again...?)

What do video games even have to do with that incident anyway?! Did he even mention video games? No, he wrote a 1500 page manifesto about Islam and multiculturalism; no mention of video games. That guy had served in the army; maybe instead of banning the virtual people and their pretend world of video games, they should ban actual violent real people who kill others in the real world...

Here's an idea: when a real person kills another real person we could ban them and take them out of circulation so the general public doesn't come into connect with them; in other words: put them in prison... By removing violent video games, certain people are implying that video games are responsible for these kinds of incidents, or else, why remove them...?

Sucks.

He did explicitly mention World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2 in the diary part of his manifesto. He claimed he used them as training, though I don't think he said in what way they helped him with any part of the attack. Maybe the player base of the two made his hate of humanity grow stronger, though by some reports by people who claim to have played with him, he was one of the people screaming "fag" in the voice chat. I have a hard time seeing how MW2 could in any way help you get better in handling weapons, as the guns reload and aim themselves at the push of a button and requires no maintenance, and I'd think there would be a difference between shooting at the same repeated faceless character model and 500 kids running for their lives.

Posted by DG991

@Dany said:

@Kyreo said:

This will only encourage piracy.

Uhm..quite a leap in logic huh?

Not too large of a leap.

Edited by NekuCTR

Your not "helping to show consideration for those affected" your fucking emphasizing it. Why breed pointless hate for something so insignificant? Retailers man, the most mindless people in the world run them.

Posted by eccentrix

I surprised they could find 51 violent games in their stock.

Posted by Brendan

@Qodot said:

MY SON KILLED 200 PEOPLE TO TRY AND GET A PURPLE DROP

Oh god, I laughed.

Posted by InfamousBIG

Man, I hope one day one of these psycho killers will be all like "Man, I killed all these people cause of this Jack Thompson dude, he pissed me off so much, it's his fault." I'd love to see him pulled indefinitely from shelves.

Posted by Morden2261

Even if it's a minor retailer, this reaction is stupid.

Posted by Xymox

It's like they say... Coop is for carebears.

Edited by Castiel

@Dany said:

@Kyreo said:

This will only encourage piracy.

Uhm..quite a leap in logic huh?

Oh please don't ruin Kyreo's shallow excuse for illegal downloading.

Posted by Kujel

If they leave good games on the shelves like Halo(es), Assassin's Creed, Red Faction, Saints Row, etc it's okay. Crap like cod and wow shouldn't have been on the shelves in the first place.

Posted by Subjugation

I'm glad they understand what is to blame here.

Posted by Mepsipax
@Claude: Coop is pretty huge in all of scandinavia, but they mostly consist of supermarkets.
Posted by Claude

@Mepsipax said:

@Claude: Coop is pretty huge in all of scandinavia, but they mostly consist of supermarkets.

Sounds like Walmart.

Posted by Mepsipax

Shouldn't they consider the 11+ million users who plays WoW and 10+ million people who bought Modern Warfare 2 that aren't psychotic massmurderers?
Anyway, I guess Breivik played the airportlevel from MW2 a few too many times...

Posted by cikame

That's one way to shut down a business.

Posted by Superfriend

Suckers.

Posted by Yanngc33

The only thing MW 2 has taught me is that shooting guys in the face can be frustrating…

Posted by FMinus

I wanted to move to Norway to hunt trolls, but now that my troll hunting simulator is removed from store shelves I will reconsider. 

Posted by Simplexity

I was not aware they sold games in Coop stores, I work at one part time and we don't sell any games.

Not a big deal.

Posted by probablytuna

Let the censorship begin....

Posted by Ghostiet

They understand that Breivik was playing WoW? You could make pathetic, dumbass jokes about the connection with the attacks, but I think is pretty Goddamn clear to everyone video games WEREN'T a factor in this man's insanity.

Posted by JakeTaylor

Coop sell food and have a bunch of insurance options in the UK. 
 
There's one near my house. They're overpriced.

Posted by dudeglove

But Homefront is shit.

Posted by AMonkey

Good thing they removed World of Warcraft. Otherwise there would be thousands of trained Gnome assassins in Norway.

Posted by AMonkey
@CosmicQueso: One video game retailer=all of Norway. Good job Cosmic.
Edited by Oddsor

You all shouldn't really worry, most people in Norway never go to a Coop-store in order to buy games. I'll assume families go there and pick up games for their kids, in which case they wouldn't get these games anyway. Our actual game stores said they didn't really see the connection between the killer and games.
Edit: I forgot about "Platekompaniet", which is actually a games retailer. So I guess you all should probably worry a little bit!
 
I liked the response of one of our grocery store-chains better, where they turned our biggest news papers front to back because they keep putting the killer's picture on the front page. We've seen enough of that guy by now, thank you very much, I'm pretty sure we'll remember his face if he ever gets out.
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Posted by S0ndor

The economy involved is the only reason they are doing this. It's free publicity. They are just going for the holier-than-thou image in the hopes that it will draw in more customers. 
 
Self-righteous hypocrites assemble! Milk that attack for all it's worth boy. 

Posted by Tofford

Wasn't the guy killing people because he was Christian and the government were letting too many Muslims into the country. Sounds like Religion should be banned rather than games

Posted by GrandMarshal

when will people realise crazy people will always be crazy with or without video games

Posted by Oddsor
@S0ndor: That they're trying to cash in on the tragedy by drawing attention to the store is quite likely, but most/all norwegians I know won't give a shit about a store trying to appeal to our (fundamentalist) "christian values".
Posted by geirr

Guys, I'm from Norway, and this is fucked up.

Anders also ate bread and took showers, I don't think Coop has any plans on dropping these products from their shelves.

Posted by PolygonSlayer

@CosmicQueso: This has nothing to do with Norway as a whole. This is one stupid retailer who still is run by people who have no idea what video games are. The Norwegian government has stated nothing but more openness in the society after these attacks as being the solution needed. I suggest you have a look at the rose-marches that happened around Norway for the real response that was uttered.

Edited by MrKadaver

No one buys games there. Seriously this does not deserve even a mention.

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