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Posted by Xsheps

Sony would have just lied about it.

Posted by The_Moose

That's real

Posted by JCannihilates

-slow clap-

Posted by purpleinsect

They surely showed how situations like this should be dealt with :)

Posted by TopChef

iPhone killed the nintendo-star

Posted by The_Reflection

Does anyone know for the 20 free games. ive logged into the store but ive never bought anything. Am I good, or should I buy something, anything, just to make sure?

Posted by grant101101

Hey, I already got a 3DS before the whole thing, so I'm okay with it.

Posted by ryanwho
@Lucidlife said:

It won't matter. The 3DS is on it's way to being dead.

Yes, with numbers easily outdoing any Sony handheld and nearly matching the original DS, its on its way to being dead. Thanks dumbass internet expert.
Posted by apoptosis61

flawed 3ds design scratching the upper screen, no games, games getting canceled, online futures sux, decades old 'free games', OVERPRICED piece of junk , no thx , put your apology ... well you know where

Posted by Moody_Loner

Thanks to @King9999 for the compliment.

Although I must just point out that I missed a similar Apple move with the iPhone price drop a while ago - I genuinely hadn't seen this. I certainly don't remember this being high profile in the UK.

reson8er just replied to your comment:
@Moody_Loner: Apple has a history of doing right by its customers.
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/openiphoneletter/

Thanks to reson8er for pointing that out. Apple do have a consumer conscience after all! ;)

Posted by Aaox

This is both good and bad, because I got a 3DS, but it was in America so I can't actually log into the e-Shop until I go back there, which is sometime in late August.  
All because Region Locking or whatever you want to call it is bullshit. 
Damn it.

Posted by ProfessorEss

Am I the only one who finds corporate apologies kind of boring and totally meaningless?

Posted by jointron33
@vinsanityv22: ............................marry me
Posted by MaddProdigy

@JoeyRavn said:

Never buy a console on release. Always wait a couple of months for a price drop. Always. At least they are acknowledging the problems, instead of shrugging them off and sweeping them under the rug.

@Grissefar said:

first

You spelled "fail" wrong :O

That's the point, there rarely is a price drop on a console release until at the absolute MINIMUM 6 months after release. Even that seems ridiculous. If you plan to wait for a "price drop" after the next Xbox/Playstation drop, you will be waiting 1-2 years duder.

Posted by twenty0ne

I'm not surprised that the 3DS is faltering - to me, the "3D-effect" seems excessively gimmicky; I wouldn't consider purchasing it myself. 

Posted by xxNBxx

When can we get these games and how will we get them?  I see that it says "in order to participate in the 3DS Ambassador program, log into the eShop before midnight on August 11"  and do what?  They should have some kind of news pop up on your 3DS to explain everything.

Edited by reson8er
@Moody_Loner: Apple has a history of doing right by its customers.  
 
" As for the apology; then at least they are placating rather than cutting off users, like Apple do for example."  
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/openiphoneletter/
Posted by King9999
@Moody_Loner said:

True early adopters don't really care about this type of stuff...do they? I think the biggest crime Nintendo have committed here is the poor showing out of the gate of 1st gen titles. I recently bought Zelda and have gotta say it's pretty good in 3D.

As for the apology; then at least they are placating rather than cutting off users, like Apple do for example. Free games because of an early price cut is a decent gesture. Compare it to, say, Sony when PSN was down. I'd say this was more generous than that.

The price you pay is the price you are happy with. Whilst I do agree that the 3D adds little to the gaming genre per se, the fact that Nintendo have admitted that without the price drop and consumers buying the units then you aint' going to get the titles, is realistic. I would rather have the titles which push this system than nothing at all. They are working on it apparently - but in the meantime here's some recompense until they come.

This is the best, well-written response I've seen on here. 
 
As for Iwata cutting his salary in half: not the first time I've read about someone at the top doing something like this.  The Japanese are dramatic like that.
Posted by Lucidlife

It won't matter. The 3DS is on it's way to being dead.

Posted by TenStoryMother

@GeekDown: I think you'll enjoy the system. It really is a major step up from the DS hardware and although I wasn't initially sold on the 3D concept, the Legend of Zelda truly uses the 3D in a fun way. With the price cut, the 3DS is priced where it should have been all along for mass appeal.

Posted by ptys

It's great to see the President of a video game company so genuine and passionate about his products. Shows they are invested in the 3DS and I think after this move it'll probably take off!

Posted by SuperSambo

@GS_Dan said:

@DystopiaX said:

well at least they're not doing a psn is down thing and giving you relative crap, the stuff they're givig you is almost worth it

...Really? Infamous, Little Big Planet and Wipeout are crap? The hell?

Not crap (well Wipeout is...), but really old meaning that the deal was crap as people who wanted those games probably already bought them.

Posted by ThatIndianGuy7116

@ShinAli
be lucky you are getting something you greedy fuck

Posted by GS_Dan

@DystopiaX said:

well at least they're not doing a psn is down thing and giving you relative crap, the stuff they're givig you is almost worth it

...Really? Infamous, Little Big Planet and Wipeout are crap? The hell?

Posted by Moody_Loner

True early adopters don't really care about this type of stuff...do they? I think the biggest crime Nintendo have committed here is the poor showing out of the gate of 1st gen titles. I recently bought Zelda and have gotta say it's pretty good in 3D.

As for the apology; then at least they are placating rather than cutting off users, like Apple do for example. Free games because of an early price cut is a decent gesture. Compare it to, say, Sony when PSN was down. I'd say this was more generous than that.

The price you pay is the price you are happy with. Whilst I do agree that the 3D adds little to the gaming genre per se, the fact that Nintendo have admitted that without the price drop and consumers buying the units then you aint' going to get the titles, is realistic. I would rather have the titles which push this system than nothing at all. They are working on it apparently - but in the meantime here's some recompense until they come.

Posted by Teejoritive

Sold my DSi assuming I would buy one.  @JoeyRavn : It's been a proven bad investment to buy ANY console on release since the PS2 sales hikes in 2000.  Shit continues to go wrong and be corrected (eventually) without fail.  I can't make myself buy a system for even 169.99 that hasn't had its hardware revised and continues to offer a release lineup that is most enticing for its selection of 40 dollar N64 revamps that I still remember paying 60 for almost 15 years ago.  
 
I don't know where this retro/reboot/vintage/nostalgia trend first became valuable/viable, but if I have to relive my own childhood one more goddamn time I might start to realize it wasn't all that fucking great.

Posted by mthe1337one
@Slaker117 said:
I'm not normally a big fan of Penny Arcade, but yesterday's comic pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter.
Call me crazy, but I'd still pay $40 for the best game on a dedicated portable, compared to 40 of the best $.99 games in the App store... the MAIN reason for my personally not jumping on the 3DS bandwagon yet is solely because of the damn battery issue.  Once they fix that, I'm sold.
Posted by CitizenJP

I bought one on launch and this news does not piss me off in anyway lol, honestly, I'm just happy to have one in my hands and I look forward to Nintendo's future plans. The eShop is already kinda cool and stuff, it's just a matter of time like all systems to reach their prime. Also, thats awesome that Iwata wrote up an apology, what a nice dood. :P

Posted by RecSpec

Again, I am still surprised Nintendo decided to give the early adopters anything. But I am glad that they are, even if none of the games they have announced so far appeal to me.

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Posted by SexualBubblegumX
@Orbitz89 said:
Gamer sense of self entitlement, it never ceases to piss me right the fuck off.. you people saying they owe you anything are fucking retarded. Like a number of people have said.. you made the choice to plop down 250 dollars at retail for one of these things and you have only yourself to blame.. i bought one at launch as well and i don't get any use out of the damn thing except for when i want to play 10 minutes of Zelda. Nintendo doesn't owe you fucktarded douche nozzles a damn thing, grow the fuck up and stop acting like wailing vaginas.  This whiny bullshit that permeates through the entire Video game spectrum has gotten to the point where, in my personal opinion, the word "Gamer" should be used as a derogatory word, similar to racial slurs, as "Gamers" in my experience have only proven time and time again to be the whiniest pieces of self entitled trash on this earth.
You sir are some sort of Modern Prophet, can we like... Totally get gay with each other? 
Posted by EPGPX

You wanna know how I know your from 1up? mea culpa.................. Jeremy parish would be proud.

Posted by BBQBram

20 games sweet. All those GBA games are essentials to me, so yay!

Edited by vinsanityv22

So the update shows a letter from nintendo of Europe, and of course Iwata and the Japanese branch is as classy as ever. So where oh where is Reggie in all this....? 
 
Mr. Fatheaded Dipsh**, who's been blocking game releases in North America for a generation, and has been focusing all advertising money on selling games to that disposable "blue ocean" group he's so fond of (who left for the Kinect and iOS devices the moment they became available). Where's HIS APOLOGY? Or, maybe, he's just a sh*t head marketing man. Who will refuse to own up to this in any respect, because it makes "the brand" look weak? And that's all he's about - "selling the brand"? 
 
He's such an a**hole. How can he still be NOA president?  He's not interested in making anyone happy except his wallet. Here's Iwata (and now, NOE) talking about how they're doing what they feel is right to make the platform a success, and bring developers and games to it to make everyone happy. But Reggie? If NOA won't spring for ads to move games for platforms that are already successful, Mr. Fils-Aime sure as sh** doesn't care about the 3DS like NCL and NOE do.
 
You wanna make me feel better Iwata? Oust Reggie. Sack his dumbass. Get Minoru Arakawa back, or someone who supports Nintendo fans and gamers, and won't block all the great exclusive games Monolith and other developers make that some people don't like because they don't deem them "marketable enough".

Posted by Napalm

That's such a boilerplate, ellipses-filled response. That note doesn't really say anything at all.

Posted by Vandersveldt

So, my 3DS was stolen from me, but my memory card was in my pocket. Call me paranoid, it paid off. I need to know what all info is stored on that card. If I get a new 3DS, how much of my stuff is saved on that card? I would be really annoyed if I have to start the whole street pass thing over, and obviously I'm wondering if the e-shop purchases I've made (gameboy donkey kong and other things) will still be there. I'm asking here because I'm also wondering if I'll count as an early buyer.

Posted by falling_fast

I might actually buy one at some point at that price, so good on them I guess

Posted by lumberingjackal

Still don't want one. Wish them luck though.

Posted by Red

Sounds like a really dumb thing to apologize for. People know the risks of buying new technology, no need to condescend to them.

Edited by Dookysharpgun

This...is becoming ridiculous fairly fast. Drop the price of your console, because nobody wants it, as there are no games worth buying for it...fine. Pander to people who bought it on day one who feel cheated...ok...I guess I'm cool with that. But now to turn to pathetic grovelling just to get some fan support?
 
Can we just see these current events for what they are? Nintendo have realised that releasing a console tailored to 3D, the very definition of the term 'flogging a dead horse'...you know, apart from the obvious...was a bad idea, something that will die out as the fad of 3D itself dies out. It was a gimmick, adding next to nothing to the games they're releasing...as there are none. For the love of god, why are we even entertaining this anymore? Nintendo fucked up, they shot themselves in the foot, and now they're trying to seem squeaky clean so that people will buy their console. 
 
To people wondering why Nintendo are pandering to people who feel cheated: They need the support, they need to seem like they care, because if they don't curl up in a ball and let us kick the crap out of them, they lose whatever public image they perceive they have. Seeing as the general consensus of Nintendo is that they should die in a hedge somewhere, I think all this will be for naught. This is pathetic, an attempt to seem like the wounded puppy that limps to find help, that people find so adorable. But this puppy is sitting on enough money to buy a world superpower, and it also hates you, but knows that if it acts cute and helpless, people will have no choice but to give aid to the wretched, incredibly rich creature, that could sell you into slavery and get away with it, because it's just that loaded. All discussions of either side of the fence aside, that's really all this is.

Posted by awadnin

Nintendo make me (ambassador) anyone else happy for that? :]

Posted by Galiant

More like: "Gotcha, suckers!"

Posted by kollay

$80.

Shoot, that's at least a whole week's worth of grocery or less.

Posted by SlainbytheBrain

Unnecessary.
 
If you choose to buy a product at $250, that is your decision. Even if the product is $1 the next day, you were the one that chose to pay $250 for it.

Posted by sickVisionz

Day one buyers pay more than people who wait for price drops and electronics get cheaper as time goes on.  Shock of the world I guess...

Posted by Binman88
@Blubba said:

@Binman88: I appreciate that you didn't resort to ridiculous comments about me being "whiny" or an "embarrassment". It's sort of ridiculous how nobody can dislike something without getting criticized.

I still think it was a poor decision for Nintendo to make. I would have thought going into this, Nintendo would have known that the 3DS wouldn't go crazy because of the lack of games and wouldn't be so reactionary now that it isn't. Well now I do. Nintendo just lost a Wii U first day purchase and I doubt I'm the only one. I think being in your die-hard fans' good graces is important and this is going to come back and bite Nintendo in the ass later, especially since the Wii basically ignored the enthusiast though out this generation.

Yeah I absolutely agree that it's a bad business decision. It doesn't reflect well on them and the confidence you'd expect them to have in their own product. It gives the impression that laying down money on one of their products is now a potential gamble - essentially, even they don't know if it's going to succeed. 
Posted by MeatSim

Glad I didn't buy a 3DS not that I ever really planned to.

Edited by Adus

People are lucky Nintendo is offering anything at all. They have no obligation to award you with anything. You saw the price of the system. You saw the launch lineup. You chose to spend your money anyway. You can't even really say "Well I thought great games would be coming out quicker" because almost every system from any company has a weak lineup that takes almost a year to flesh out.

They could have dropped the price and said nothing and I wouldn't have blamed them. Even if they just gave an apology letter that would have been more than I expected. So this does make me respect Nintendo, because Samsung isn't gonna refund you 200 bucks when they drop the price of that flatscreen you bought a few months ago.

I think the 3DS was overpriced to begin with so I did not buy it. If you thought that and still bought it, and are not happy with what they're offering you now, then you only have yourself to blame. Everyone is well aware that price drops and system revisions happen so you should have waited if you were so unsure.

For the record this isn't really aimed at anyone in particular, just anyone who DOES think that "this isn't enough" or whatever. I realize that most of the comments have been pretty sane so far.

Posted by Blubba

@Binman88: I appreciate that you didn't resort to ridiculous comments about me being "whiny" or an "embarrassment". It's sort of ridiculous how nobody can dislike something without getting criticized.

I still think it was a poor decision for Nintendo to make. I would have thought going into this, Nintendo would have known that the 3DS wouldn't go crazy because of the lack of games and wouldn't be so reactionary now that it isn't. Well now I do. Nintendo just lost a Wii U first day purchase and I doubt I'm the only one. I think being in your die-hard fans' good graces is important and this is going to come back and bite Nintendo in the ass later, especially since the Wii basically ignored the enthusiast though out this generation.

Posted by Kamisaki

Man, Giant Bomb, hiring Patrick Klepek was the best move you guys made in a long time.  I love your video content, but I often just don't have time to watch a lot of it.  I do have time to read these news articles that pop up way more often than they ever used to.  And most importantly, Patrick's stories and commentary are so much better than the regurgitated press releases that pass for news at so many other game sites.  Great stuff, Patrick!

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