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Posted by Wes

@RageKage14: Cite the damn articles Rage and quit merely responding with dismissive remarks.

Posted by CptBedlam

@RageKage14 said:

@Stubee said:

@RageKage14

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Grow up

Quite an adult reply.

The only possible reply. Stop whining.

Posted by AxiomaticParasite

"People are losing money due to a Microsoft error? I'd better not mention potential loss of money in the main article header or description or else people might actually be aware of what's going on."

- Patrick Klepek journalism.

Posted by Curufinwe

@jozzy: English is my native language and I found some of the article confusing to read.

They could really do with a good copy editor like Jason Wilson who used to work at GamePro and 1up.

Posted by obscurefan

Wheeeeew, thank you for telling me this because odds are I would have fallen for this.

Posted by Bourbon_Warrior

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking).

PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer.

So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.
Posted by AxiomaticParasite

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking).

PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer.

So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Posted by George_Hukas

@AxiomaticParasite said:

"People are losing money due to a Microsoft error? I'd better not mention potential loss of money in the main article header or description or else people might actually be aware of what's going on."

- Patrick Klepek journalism.

Weird, PS3 was being "hacked" was almost just the biggest video game story last year, and virtually nothing was compromised. Two years ago, the XBLA marketplace exploit was discovered, gamers stole millions in DLC, games and content from developers (Bastion had over 100k illegal downloads), and subsequently shared them free with their friends through compromised dummy accounts, yet nobody talked about it.

Posted by GaZZuM

Any criticism levelled upon Patrick for writing an article with the express intention of making it so you don't get exploited by a bug that could cost you money, is absolutely ridiculous. Thanks Patrick, these trolls will look for any excuse.

Posted by Bourbon_Warrior

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking).

PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer.

So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Your missing the point of my post, I was replying to Ragekage14 who was trying to compare this to the major PS3 hacking last year. This doesn't even compare. So you hit try demo, next screen comes up with "This will cost 800 MSP" points that unless you have more that $10 laying around in your account you would have to add points anyway, by then you should be on to something fishy. I feel this has affected very few people that will more than likely get refunded unless Microsoft decide to go batshit crazy for no reason.

Posted by AxiomaticParasite

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking).

PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer.

So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Your missing the point of my post, I was replying to Ragekage14 who was trying to compare this to the major PS3 hacking last year. This doesn't even compare. So you hit try demo, next screen comes up with "This will cost 800 MSP" points that unless you have more that $10 laying around in your account you would have to add points anyway, by then you should be on to something fishy. I feel this has affected very few people that will more than likely get refunded unless Microsoft decide to go batshit crazy for no reason.

That doesn't change the way that this article feels like something an Xbox PR person would write. It's very weird.

Posted by AxiomaticParasite

@GaZZuM said:

Any criticism levelled upon Patrick for writing an article with the express intention of making it so you don't get exploited by a bug that could cost you money, is absolutely ridiculous. Thanks Patrick, these trolls will look for any excuse.

Here's a funny post from someone who didn't actually read any of the criticism. The point is that he's not doing enough to point out the potential loss of money (It's not mentioned in the article header).

Posted by PresidentOfJellybeans

xbox.com has been a mess, at least for me, for months. trying to visit the page results in infinite redirect loops, unless i decide to clear my cookies, again, and even then half the pages i visit encounter an error of some sort. the site is garbage.

Posted by MideonNViscera

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Reporting on them fucking people over is a pass? haha Whether he paints the picture prettier or not, the facts are all there and anyone worth existing will form their own opinions from those.

Also, PS3 just sucks more! LOLZ

Edited by Bourbon_Warrior

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking).

PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer.

So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Your missing the point of my post, I was replying to Ragekage14 who was trying to compare this to the major PS3 hacking last year. This doesn't even compare. So you hit try demo, next screen comes up with "This will cost 800 MSP" points that unless you have more that $10 laying around in your account you would have to add points anyway, by then you should be on to something fishy. I feel this has affected very few people that will more than likely get refunded unless Microsoft decide to go batshit crazy for no reason.

That doesn't change the way that this article feels like something an Xbox PR person would write. It's very weird.

What that Xbox.com is flawed and people are losing money?!? why would a Xbox PR "person" write that unless it was an official statement.

Posted by AxiomaticParasite

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking).

PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer.

So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Your missing the point of my post, I was replying to Ragekage14 who was trying to compare this to the major PS3 hacking last year. This doesn't even compare. So you hit try demo, next screen comes up with "This will cost 800 MSP" points that unless you have more that $10 laying around in your account you would have to add points anyway, by then you should be on to something fishy. I feel this has affected very few people that will more than likely get refunded unless Microsoft decide to go batshit crazy for no reason.

That doesn't change the way that this article feels like something an Xbox PR person would write. It's very weird.

What that Xbox.com is flawed and people are losing money?!? why would a Xbox PR "person" write that unless it was a officially statement.

To acknowledge the problem yet try to reassure the userbase that the problem is immediately going away, while at the same time deflecting as much blame away from the responsible company (Microsoft) as possible? That's why a PR person would write that.

Posted by MideonNViscera

For those ripping on Patrick's writing style, it's that he crams as many words into a sentence as possible.

For those of you ripping on Patrick's strangely convoluted methods of writing words on the internet, the problem seems to lie within his desire to continually add needless words where none needed to be placed, actually.

Posted by Bourbon_Warrior

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking).

PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer.

So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Your missing the point of my post, I was replying to Ragekage14 who was trying to compare this to the major PS3 hacking last year. This doesn't even compare. So you hit try demo, next screen comes up with "This will cost 800 MSP" points that unless you have more that $10 laying around in your account you would have to add points anyway, by then you should be on to something fishy. I feel this has affected very few people that will more than likely get refunded unless Microsoft decide to go batshit crazy for no reason.

That doesn't change the way that this article feels like something an Xbox PR person would write. It's very weird.

What that Xbox.com is flawed and people are losing money?!? why would a Xbox PR "person" write that unless it was a officially statement.

To acknowledge the problem yet try to reassure the userbase that the problem is immediately going away, while at the same time deflecting as much blame away from the responsible company (Microsoft) as possible? That's why a PR person would write that.

I don''t see the problem he got a tipoff from a user, researched the story and got in touch with MS to see what they had to say about said issue, Pretty basic "Journalism" to me, more than most sites do these days.

Posted by AxiomaticParasite

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking).

PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer.

So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Your missing the point of my post, I was replying to Ragekage14 who was trying to compare this to the major PS3 hacking last year. This doesn't even compare. So you hit try demo, next screen comes up with "This will cost 800 MSP" points that unless you have more that $10 laying around in your account you would have to add points anyway, by then you should be on to something fishy. I feel this has affected very few people that will more than likely get refunded unless Microsoft decide to go batshit crazy for no reason.

That doesn't change the way that this article feels like something an Xbox PR person would write. It's very weird.

What that Xbox.com is flawed and people are losing money?!? why would a Xbox PR "person" write that unless it was a officially statement.

To acknowledge the problem yet try to reassure the userbase that the problem is immediately going away, while at the same time deflecting as much blame away from the responsible company (Microsoft) as possible? That's why a PR person would write that.

I don''t see the problem he got a tipoff from a user, researched the story and got in touch with MS to see what they had to say about said issue, Pretty basic "Journalism" to me, more than most sites do these days.

Go back and actually read my criticisms.

Posted by dox

@Branthog: Yes!

Posted by Bourbon_Warrior

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@AxiomaticParasite said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@RageKage14 said:

@FreakAche said:

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Because saying, "Hey! Microsoft is stealing your money" definitely qualifies as a "pass".

He says it so flippantly, wheras if it were PS3 he would be full of rage. Look at the disparity between his stories about Xbox Live getting hacked and PS3 getting hacked. He was like "Meh, Xbox Live possibly got hacked, check your login stuff" and then for PSN he was all "Sony doesn't care about their userbase by letting this happen! What an evil company!"

This headline is "Nasty Xbox Live login issue, but there's good news!", deflecting the severity of what happened within the headline itself. If it were Sony, the headline would probably be "How Sony is stealing your money" or something inflammatory towards Sony.

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking. It was more scamming a person to tell user information so they could log in to their ultimate team and steal their coins/players, I play ultimate team and have gotten a few messages saying go to freefifacoins.com to get 1000000 free coins, I usually just file complaint against their account, where as others go to that site and use the same email and password as their Xbox accounts (Stupid I know but not hacking).

PS3 on the other hand got HACKED, the entire user base couldn't get online for a month, I sold mine after the 2nd week and invested in a computer.

So to call out Patrick for being biased on something that really isn't comparable is ironically really just showing how biased you really are.

Notice how one section of this article is basically just an advertisement of Xbox.com and how great it is? Notice how the headline doesn't mention any potential loss of money and is only deep within the story? Notice how any mention of a problem is immediately met with "will be fixed soon" or "won't be a problem soon enough"? Notice how he even says that part of the problem is "user's aimless clicking" despite them clicking the button commonly used to download a demo?

This article feels like it was written by an Xbox PR rep, and not an unbiased journalist.

Your missing the point of my post, I was replying to Ragekage14 who was trying to compare this to the major PS3 hacking last year. This doesn't even compare. So you hit try demo, next screen comes up with "This will cost 800 MSP" points that unless you have more that $10 laying around in your account you would have to add points anyway, by then you should be on to something fishy. I feel this has affected very few people that will more than likely get refunded unless Microsoft decide to go batshit crazy for no reason.

That doesn't change the way that this article feels like something an Xbox PR person would write. It's very weird.

What that Xbox.com is flawed and people are losing money?!? why would a Xbox PR "person" write that unless it was a officially statement.

To acknowledge the problem yet try to reassure the userbase that the problem is immediately going away, while at the same time deflecting as much blame away from the responsible company (Microsoft) as possible? That's why a PR person would write that.

I don''t see the problem he got a tipoff from a user, researched the story and got in touch with MS to see what they had to say about said issue, Pretty basic "Journalism" to me, more than most sites do these days.

Go back and actually read my criticisms.

I have and I have stated why you are wrong. Unless you have something to add?

Posted by Beforet

@mariwells said:

my classmate's mom makes $76 every hour on the computer. She has been out of work for 5 months but last month her check was $8625 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read more on this site *redacted*

I think this might be the most productive post in this thread.

Posted by Curufinwe

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

The difference is the Xbox didn't get hacked, FIFA Ultimate Team has scammers but not hacking.

Just wait. There's no way all these FIFA hacks are just from phishing.

Posted by Fishstick

@mariwells: I hate to tell you this, but your mother earns that money on her back.

Posted by TheHT

@MideonNViscera said:

For those ripping on Patrick's writing style, it's that he crams as many words into a sentence as possible.

For those of you ripping on Patrick's strangely convoluted methods of writing words on the internet, the problem seems to lie within his desire to continually add needless words where none needed to be placed, actually.

Kinda like how he talks.

Thanks for the heads up, that's kinda fucked.

Posted by JeanLuc

"you’re greeted by a dancing Avatar with paid-for clothing you said you’d never, ever buy--but then you saw Rocky stuff."

You know me so well Patrick. The Jurassic Park John Hammond outfit and cane was really tempting as well.

Posted by SiN13

Not a surprising glitch, I feel like I've had that happen before and with other sites as well. Always try to log in first before you start trying to add stuff to carts and making purchases. Also, if you blindly hit a button that says confirm purchase without looking at the the deduction to your account first I don't feel bad for you.

Posted by Lunar_Aura

only four pages and most of you guys are already commenting like hi-level dicks gj

Posted by GoodKn1ght

@Branthog said:

@thramp said:

Really great work, Patrick.

Indeed. Why, with those incredible skills to read an email and follow a couple steps on a website to reproduce a simple problem and then write a story about it, he's bound to have that Pulitzer in no time! (Not ragging on Patrick, here. There's just nothing extraordinary about the work that went into this, even though it's interesting.)

Haha I agree. Patrick can do some amazing investigative journalism, this was pretty simple though.

Posted by GaZZuM

@AxiomaticParasite: @AxiomaticParasite said:

@GaZZuM said:

Any criticism levelled upon Patrick for writing an article with the express intention of making it so you don't get exploited by a bug that could cost you money, is absolutely ridiculous. Thanks Patrick, these trolls will look for any excuse.

Here's a funny post from someone who didn't actually read any of the criticism. The point is that he's not doing enough to point out the potential loss of money (It's not mentioned in the article header).

I think it's fine for him not to over-sensationalise an issue which sounds like would only happen under very specific circumstances and that Microsoft have already told him they're working on a fix for. An article's headline is meant to draw you in, not to tell you the entire story. If the headline was "Microsoft Screw Users Out Of Money!!!" That would be dishonest to the actual situation, and would, I'm sure, also get alot of flak for sensationalising to get views.

Posted by laserbolts
@George_Hukas

@AxiomaticParasite said:

"People are losing money due to a Microsoft error? I'd better not mention potential loss of money in the main article header or description or else people might actually be aware of what's going on."

- Patrick Klepek journalism.

Weird, PS3 was being "hacked" was almost just the biggest video game story last year, and virtually nothing was compromised. Two years ago, the XBLA marketplace exploit was discovered, gamers stole millions in DLC, games and content from developers (Bastion had over 100k illegal downloads), and subsequently shared them free with their friends through compromised dummy accounts, yet nobody talked about it.

Do you have a source for this? Never heard of it and the fact that you used bastion as an example and the game wasn't even out 2 years ago makes this extremely hard to believe.
Posted by YOUNGLINK

Is this story about xbox or patrick? Geez, some of you guys are ruthless.

Posted by BitterAlmond

@Branthog said:

@FritzDude said:

Oh look, It's Patrick writing something about Xbox live again.

Wait, what does that mean? Xbox Live is kind of a big deal. It's not like Patrick is writing a five age dissertation on the artistic merit of an indie game masterpiece about postpartum depression and the joys of woman-hood.

Does anyone else wish this game and the resulting article from Patrick existed?

Posted by OllyOxenFree

@YOUNGLINK said:

Is this story about xbox or patrick? Geez, some of you guys are ruthless.

We're surrounded by assholes!

Posted by MideonNViscera

@laserbolts said:

@George_Hukas

@AxiomaticParasite said:

"People are losing money due to a Microsoft error? I'd better not mention potential loss of money in the main article header or description or else people might actually be aware of what's going on."

- Patrick Klepek journalism.

Weird, PS3 was being "hacked" was almost just the biggest video game story last year, and virtually nothing was compromised. Two years ago, the XBLA marketplace exploit was discovered, gamers stole millions in DLC, games and content from developers (Bastion had over 100k illegal downloads), and subsequently shared them free with their friends through compromised dummy accounts, yet nobody talked about it.

Do you have a source for this? Never heard of it and the fact that you used bastion as an example and the game wasn't even out 2 years ago makes this extremely hard to believe.

Yeah, I never heard of this shit either. I find it pretty fucking hard to believe it would never come up in any of these endless PS3 vs X-Box(Winner) debates haha

Posted by NegativeCero

I never use Xbox.com and never put points in my account that I don't need, so I was good. Hopefully people get their money back though.

Posted by Amerist

@patrickklepek: Ouch, that's not the sort of thing I want in any subscription service that I belong to. Glad to hear that Microsoft is working on fixing it -- I hope they're ready to refund people who accidentally bought it via click. I know that Amazon one-click and other things are nice and convenient, but at least they have a grace period that lets me immediately cancel it. Furthermore, I must opt-in to one-click. ξ

Posted by RVonE

Content related to Patrick results in excessive bitching and moaning. This is what I've learned (I'm slow, I know). Good job, Giant Bomb community. Good job.

Posted by GalacticPunt

I clicked on this story, and it was a halfway-interesting public service announcement, that wasn't sensationalist.

I look at the comments, and they seem to think they're on GiantAssholes.com

Posted by Ronald

Nice job, Microsoft.

Posted by Nephrahim

@TheHT said:

@MideonNViscera said:

For those ripping on Patrick's writing style, it's that he crams as many words into a sentence as possible.

For those of you ripping on Patrick's strangely convoluted methods of writing words on the internet, the problem seems to lie within his desire to continually add needless words where none needed to be placed, actually.

Kinda like how he talks.

Thanks for the heads up, that's kinda fucked.

This is the first article he's written that I actually had trouble reading.

Could have used some editing for sure.

Posted by Rekt_Hed

Thanks for the heads up Patrick :) Im always impressed by your comitment to keeping us gamers informed and able to stay clear of potentially losing a ton of money. Kudos duder :)

and forget these trolls that would'nt know news if it walked up to them and smacked them in the face with a massive wooden club.

Posted by Milkman

@RageKage14 said:

Good thing this didn't happen on PS3, or Patrick would be vehemently tearing into Sony. Microsoft seems to get a pass from him.

Cover up. Your blue is showing.

Seriously, take your fanboy system wars conspiracy theories somewhere else.

Posted by Milkman

@louiedog said:

@Gibbous said:

God, the writing is just tortuous. Patrick, please take a class.

If you find fault with his writing you should probably explain why. You just come off as an insulting dick otherwise.

Spoiler alert: He can't explain why.

Posted by WalkerD

@Patrick said:

Heard about a new game on the Indie Games marketplace?

Nice try Patrick. We all know the XBLA indie games are shit.

Posted by Fuga

why am i reading youtube comments oh wait

Posted by MeatSim

Xbox.com in general is a mess it runs slow and I haven't gotten the Redeem code page to work in months.

Edited by NickFerg

I think the biggest question that is not being asked here is, who would have 6700 mspoints sitting around in their account? Do the math, that's $83.75 that has just sitting around on his live account. Personally, I have 666 microsoft points and I don't think I'm ever poing to buy anything on the marketplace ever again. I like having the Devil's number in my MS bank account.

Posted by Ravenlight

Gettin' them hot scoops!

That nickname is taken, so Patrick's new nickname is "Burning Shovels"

Posted by itsnottaken

@NickFerg: Bing rewards points. Been doing it for years.

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