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Posted by JackSukeru

@drevilbones: Glad to help! I forgot to mention this before but you can't reach the area where you can avenge the Fire Keeper until you've rung both bells, I didn't make that clear so I apologise. It's on the path you have to take to finish the game though so there's no missing it, just keep going and you'll find it sooner or later, there's no rush.

Watching you guys play made me go back to one of my own characters I wanted to play more of, a pure magic user. Or not entirely pure as it turns out, I just can't keep away from the heavier armor stuffs and lightning weapons it seems, so I ended up making more of a magic knight. She wore a robe, but also a cool helmet and heavy shoes, mixing and matching gear to find stuff that looks good is actually pretty fun. I used part of that red wizard set you found a while back and I have to say that it's a lot easier to use stuff that required Twinkling Titanite now that one of the NPC's sell it.

Basically you don't have to worry about having to farm hard-to-get Twinkling and can just go nuts with whatever you fancy, it's great.

Posted by AndyD74

I've really enjoyed these videos, so I hope you keep making them. As a side note, a phantom CAN heal himself three different ways. 1. Divine Blessing 2. Heal Miracle 3. Humanity

Posted by 71Ranchero

@drevilbones said:

@Atramentous said:

Watching people play dark souls is way more frustrating then playing it on your own. I have only watched part one and I was enraged at how many arrows and flasks you used to kill that caster that you could have hit with your sword twice and been done with :P

I will watch some more of these. Provided I can keep my cool its kind of neat to get a different view of the game with some commentary that isnt full of "bro".

Yeah, we're kinda dumb sometimes. We keep on making dumb mistakes, so maybe for the sake of your blood pressure, you might want to find some better players to watch. Though, making vids that weren't full of dudebros yelling into mics is pretty much the major impetus for us making these, so it's gratifying to hear that it's appreciated. Hopefully we can make up for our lack of skill a bit with other positive qualities.

I didnt say anything about any lack of skill. DS is one of those games that everyone will play different and sometimes the easy way to do stuff just doesn't present itself until after you have done it the hard way a few times.

I like these. Hope you guys keep making them.

Posted by drevilbones

@Atramentous said:

Watching people play dark souls is way more frustrating then playing it on your own. I have only watched part one and I was enraged at how many arrows and flasks you used to kill that caster that you could have hit with your sword twice and been done with :P

I will watch some more of these. Provided I can keep my cool its kind of neat to get a different view of the game with some commentary that isnt full of "bro".

Yeah, we're kinda dumb sometimes. We keep on making dumb mistakes, so maybe for the sake of your blood pressure, you might want to find some better players to watch. Though, making vids that weren't full of dudebros yelling into mics is pretty much the major impetus for us making these, so it's gratifying to hear that it's appreciated. Hopefully we can make up for our lack of skill a bit with other positive qualities.

@RockmanBionics said:

@drevilbones: It's a convoluted process, basically you need to reach a certain shrine hidden in the area behind the dragon you met early in the game. You need to have 25 faith to be able to join, however this number is decreased by 5 for every time that you've helped another player defeat a boss. So if your Faith is at 10 helping any player defeat a boss on three occasions lets you join.(The base faith requirement used to be 50 before the update)

Knowing that this broken statue will eventually let you examine it and join a covenant is a bit far-fetched, though late in the game Solaire will be at the shrine and introduce you to it. Of course, this thing where nps's move around to already visited areas can make them hard to track down or follow through their stories fully, the burly knight guy outside the big locked gate is another example where you probably need a guide to see all his events the first time through the game.

Btw in case it wasn't already apparent I am Jacksukeru, it doesn't matter how you say it because it's not my real name. I'll just type out what I would have said on the video here.

The room you were in when you ended the video has two floors, the lower one has a false wall that will lead you to the Fire Keeper Quelaan. There is also an NPC blocking the way that looks like a regular enemy, don't attack it! I don't know why you suddenly only have one Fire Keeper soul, was it always like this, hopefully you didn't try to use the other one as is?

It's pretty dangerous to explore New Londo, but if you decide to do it there's another Fire Keeper soul hidden early on, you can actually get it as soon as you reach Firelink shrine in the very beginning. Just...run past some ghosts.

Actually, I had no idea you were JackSukeru! haha. Sorry about that. Thanks for all the help and support! We both appreciate it. Ima def try and find that false wall down there.

Posted by JackSukeru

@drevilbones: It's a convoluted process, basically you need to reach a certain shrine hidden in the area behind the dragon you met early in the game. You need to have 25 faith to be able to join, however this number is decreased by 5 for every time that you've helped another player defeat a boss. So if your Faith is at 10 helping any player defeat a boss on three occasions lets you join.(The base faith requirement used to be 50 before the update)

Knowing that this broken statue will eventually let you examine it and join a covenant is a bit far-fetched, though late in the game Solaire will be at the shrine and introduce you to it. Of course, this thing where nps's move around to already visited areas can make them hard to track down or follow through their stories fully, the burly knight guy outside the big locked gate is another example where you probably need a guide to see all his events the first time through the game.

Btw in case it wasn't already apparent I am Jacksukeru, it doesn't matter how you say it becasue it's not my real name. I'll just type out what I would have said on the video here.

The room you were in when you ended the video has two floors, the lower one has a false wall that will lead you to the Fire Keeper Quelaan. There is also an NPC blocking the way that looks like a regular enemy, don't attack it! I don't know why you suddenly only have one Fire Keeper soul, was it always like this, hopefully you didn't try to use the other one as is?

It's pretty dangerous to explore New Londo, but if you decide to do it there's another Fire Keeper soul hidden early on, you can actually get it as soon as you reach Firelink shrine in the very beginning. Just...run past some ghosts.

Posted by 71Ranchero

Watching people play dark souls is way more frustrating then playing it on your own. I have only watched part one and I was enraged at how many arrows and flasks you used to kill that caster that you could have hit with your sword twice and been done with :P

I will watch some more of these. Provided I can keep my cool its kind of neat to get a different view of the game with some commentary that isnt full of "bro".

Posted by jozzy

@drevilbones said:

@RockmanBionics said:

Not quite so lucky was that you didn't pick up her Humanity and the weapon that she dropped when you killed her :(

Yeah, I didn't realize that either until I was editing. Pretty much all of part 11 is The Bonehead Show starring the boneheads. We did a lot of dumb stuff. In our defense, we had also been drinking, so I'm just going to blame it on the a-a-a-a-a-alchohol.

Thanks for clearing up the stuff about the summons! How exactly does one join these "sunbros?"

You need to kneel at an altar on the other side of that bridge with the dragon. You need 25 faith though, or -5 faith for every time you helped someone kill a boss.

Posted by jozzy

@drevilbones said:

@jozzy said:

Do you know that when you use an estus you will also heal the phantoms you summoned? That guy was very low on health for a while there on Quelaag, and was saved only because you decided to heal yourself. It's extremely frustrating to help someone with a boss, and then they don't heal you when necessary.

I actually knew that, which makes me even more of an asshole that I wasn't paying attention. I publicly apologize to that player. xXMUVIXx, if you ever find this, I apologize for that dick move, and also thank you for the help!

Ha, in your defense, it was one of those [xX<insert awesome username here>Xx] guys. Anyway, it was just some personal frustration for those times when I got summoned and spend minutes half dead, frantically trying to stay alive while the host continued to ignore me.

Edited by drevilbones

@RockmanBionics said:

Not quite so lucky was that you didn't pick up her Humanity and the weapon that she dropped when you killed her :(

Yeah, I didn't realize that either until I was editing. Pretty much all of part 11 is The Bonehead Show starring the boneheads. We did a lot of dumb stuff. In our defense, we had also been drinking, so I'm just going to blame it on the a-a-a-a-a-alchohol.

Thanks for clearing up the stuff about the summons! How exactly does one join these "sunbros?"

Posted by JackSukeru

@drevilbones said:

@StrikeALight said:

I don't know if you realised by now, but that phantom which invaded (and you guys later summoned) was actually a NPC.

And good job with the spider witch!

Oh really?? How can you tell? I had no idea the game even did that. So many surprises in this game!

You can usually tell by their name and behaviour, you don't actually see character names but peoples PSN ID's/Gamertags when playing, that's why there are so many guys with X'es or numbers in their name and whatnot. Also the golden summoning signs are sunbros, people or NPC's that are in the Warriors of Sunlight covenant. The Covenant is focused on co-op between players and defeating a boss with one in your party gets you a Sun Medallion.

NPC invaders always invade at the same spot in a level, the reason you didn't encounter her until now is because you need to be alive for them to invade. Defeating them usually unlocks something, like a corpse with their armor will appear somewhere in the world, in this case it made Maneater Mildred available for summoning at the boss, lucky you!

Not quite so lucky was that you didn't pick up her Humanity and the weapon that she dropped when you killed her :(

Edited by drevilbones

@jozzy said:

Do you know that when you use an estus you will also heal the phantoms you summoned? That guy was very low on health for a while there on Quelaag, and was saved only because you decided to heal yourself. It's extremely frustrating to help someone with a boss, and then they don't heal you when necessary.

I actually knew that, which makes me even more of an asshole that I wasn't paying attention. I publicly apologize to that player. xXMUVIXx, if you ever find this, I apologize for that dick move, and also thank you for the help!

@Deusx said:

Nice, you guys should do Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning! I played the demo and fell in love with that game.

I was thinking about that. I also enjoyed the demo, so I will prolly be picking it up and doing at least a single vid on it if nothing else.

Posted by Deusx

@drevilbones said:

@Deusx said:

Can't wait for the next episode. Are you guys going to stop once you ring the second bell? I would love to see more of it.

Yeah, after we ring that bell, that's it. We might do a "check in" later on? We'll have another "Adventures" series soon enough though.

Nice, you guys should do Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning! I played the demo and fell in love with that game.

Edited by jozzy

Do you know that when you use an estus you will also heal the phantoms you summoned? That guy was very low on health for a while there on Quelaag, and was saved only because you decided to heal yourself. It's extremely frustrating to help someone with a boss, and then they don't heal you when necessary.

EDIT: A phantom cannot use estus themselves, they rely on you to heal them

You guys have pleasant voices for video's like this, I enjoyed watching that last one.

Posted by drevilbones

@Deusx said:

Can't wait for the next episode. Are you guys going to stop once you ring the second bell? I would love to see more of it.

Yeah, after we ring that bell, that's it. We might do a "check in" later on? We'll have another "Adventures" series soon enough though.

Posted by NekuCTR

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell yea updates.

Posted by Deusx

Can't wait for the next episode. Are you guys going to stop once you ring the second bell? I would love to see more of it.

Hey duders I have a question. I just got the Iaito as drevilbones did in his playthrough. I'm a dex build and I'm at a crossroads now. Should I upgrade my Iaito to +15 raw or get the lightning upgrade? I'm asking this because I don't know if I should keep spending points in dex or vit and end during the rest of my playthrough. I'm planing on going NG+ obviously. My research so far says I should go +15 due to dex A scaling... My question is wich one does more damage? A +15 Iaito with 40 dex or the lightning upgraded iaito?

Posted by drevilbones

@StrikeALight said:

I don't know if you realised by now, but that phantom which invaded (and you guys later summoned) was actually a NPC.

And good job with the spider witch!

Oh really?? How can you tell? I had no idea the game even did that. So many surprises in this game!

Posted by StrikeALight

I don't know if you realised by now, but that phantom which invaded (and you guys later summoned) was actually a NPC.

And good job with the spider witch!

Edited by Bollard

@drevilbones: Thanks for the tips! Thankfully you ended up explaining the bow mechanics in the video too, I totally didn't realise that - cheers!

@AndyD74 said:

I was lmao on the 9th video when you got toxic and took the purple moss to cure it. Then you saw it didn't help and were trying to figure out how to cure it as your health was whittling away. I did the same thing my first time, and with the same end result.

I also also did the exact same thing, and panicked like crazy till I just used a homeward bone so I didn't lose my ~10,000 souls.

Posted by AndyD74

I was lmao on the 9th video when you got toxic and took the purple moss to cure it. Then you saw it didn't help and were trying to figure out how to cure it as your health was whittling away. I did the same thing my first time, and with the same end result.

Posted by AndyD74

I think the phantom gets half as much as the host when they defeat the boss, but I could be wrong. It used to be that the host had to split the souls with the phantoms, but I'm thinking now the host gets the full amount, and the phantom gets half. Can anyone confirm?

Posted by drevilbones

@RockmanBionics: Oh, gotcha. I didn't know about that 10% thing. I should probably do some grinding then sooner rather than later. (It will be def off camera though in either case.)

Posted by The_Laughing_Man
@RockmanBionics said:

@drevilbones: Just remember that you can only see the souls signs of people within 10% of your level, it's why I waited to level up until after I was done farming and had helped a bunch of people. I found the most people looking for help with Gaping Dragon when I was around lv 25, that might have changed though.

More if you are in the warriors of sun. 
Posted by JackSukeru

@drevilbones: Just remember that you can only see the souls signs of people within 10% of your level, it's why I waited to level up until after I was done farming and had helped a bunch of people. I found the most people looking for help with Gaping Dragon when I was around lv 25, that might have changed though.

Posted by kingzetta
@drevilbones said:

@Make_Me_Mad: Oh yeah, I remember that guy. Cool, I will have to track him down in Firelink and get us some fire magics.

@Chavtheworld: You hit the button you have the bow equipped to again. (i.e. I have it on the left, so I hit L1 to ready the bow, then L1 again to zoom). You can only do it with bows, i'm pretty sure, not crossbows. Also the sword thrusting is with the little pokey sword I have, the Mail Breaker.

@kingzetta: I've started a new character also while waiting for Matt to record new episodes, and yeah, once you know an area, it's a lot quicker. We are going pretty slow and methodical with this.

Yeah the 1st time I spent 4 hours in just blight town. Now I can get to the bottom of blight town in like 3 minutes.
Edited by drevilbones

@RockmanBionics: Oh, good. I will probably end up helping some people out later on when we're done with the bell and grinding out some stuff.

@Make_Me_Mad: Oh yeah, I remember that guy. Cool, I will have to track him down in Firelink and get us some fire magics. Thanks for the tips!

@Chavtheworld: You hit the button you have the bow equipped to again. (i.e. I have it on the left, so I hit L1 to ready the bow, then L1 again to zoom). You can only do it with bows, i'm pretty sure, not crossbows. Also the sword thrusting is with the little pokey sword I have, the Mail Breaker.

@kingzetta: I've started a new character also while waiting for Matt to record new episodes, and yeah, once you know an area, it's a lot quicker. We are going pretty slow and methodical with this.

Posted by JackSukeru

@drevilbones said:

@AndyD74 said:

You said that the guy who helped you beat the Gaping Dragon probably got a lot of humanities.....actually he only gets ONE humanity for helping you beat the boss.

Oh really? Man, I do feel kinda guilty now.

Don't, he also got just as many souls as you did. It used to be that you split the souls but I heard that they changed that because people started throwing out their phantoms once the boss was defeated. Helping people out with Gaping Dragon while I was farming Large Titanite in the Depths turned out to be very profitable when I played. Being a phantom is completly without risk to your souls so once I was done I could level like 8 times or something.

Posted by kingzetta

I spent the entire month of October playing Dark souls. I haven't played it in two and a half months since yesterday. I started a brand new game yesterday and rang the 2nd bell in 4 hours.

Edited by Bollard

Having just got to Blight Town your series is pretty relevant to me! Also you guys seem to have a great chemistry and I loved the intro to the first video (that pun was so bad!).

Keep it up!

EDIT: Hang on a second, there's a crosshair for the arrows!?!?!? Watching someone else play is literally blowing my mind right now. You play so different from me! I totally didn't even know you could aim with arrows without locking on, how on earth do you do that? And I didn't know either you could thrust with swords. I knew there was a thrusting stat but I have no idea how to execute it... Or is it specific to that particular sword?

Posted by Make_Me_Mad

@drevilbones: He's pretty much in the very first room, before you even reach the sewers- after you unlock the door with the key from the Capra Demon, you go down some stairs into a little open room with a lot of torch wielding undead, and two non-respawning butcher enemies. The pyromancer is trapped in a barrel in a side room- make sure you roll into the barrel to break him out, as using your sword will injure him and make him hostile to you, which would be a bummer. He heads back to Firelink, where you can talk to him to start learning some spells and things, with the basic fireball behaving like a suped-up firebomb, and combustion being a close-range option with the appealing feature of not using up stamina. Also, fire damage done by the spells will tear through those physically resistant slimes in the sewers, which means a lot less now that you're down in the swamp.

Posted by drevilbones

@Make_Me_Mad: No actually, we must have missed him. Where is he at?

Posted by Make_Me_Mad

@drevilbones: Just checking- haven't watched them all quite yet, but have you busted out the Pyromancer trainer from the start of the depths? It seems like the kind of thing that might have helped you in a few spots.

Posted by drevilbones

@StrikeALight said:

Cool videos guys. Your first reaction to Blighttown was exactly the same as mine.

Is there any other appropriate reaction to Blighttown? Thanks for watching and the kind words!

Edited by AndyD74

6th video: "Well, we're getting back to the bonfire one way or the other..." That made me lol.

Posted by StrikeALight

Cool videos guys. Your first reaction to Blighttown was exactly the same as mine.

Edited by AndyD74

Yeah, I was responding to drevilbones on the knocked arrow dilemma of Oblivion.

Posted by drevilbones

@idoublespy: I think is responding to my comment on wasting arrows and not putting away the bow. In The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, if you had an arrow knocked, you had to shoot it before you could put away your bow. I end up doing this in a lot of other games because of the ridiculous amount of time I spent playing Oblivion. So many arrows were shot directly into the dirt of Cyrodiil.

Posted by AndyD74

Hah, I knew it! You've played Oblivion. That used to piss me off so much. How hard is it to make it where I can put away my arrow without having to shoot it?

Posted by drevilbones

@AndyD74 said:

You said that the guy who helped you beat the Gaping Dragon probably got a lot of humanities.....actually he only gets ONE humanity for helping you beat the boss.

Oh really? Man, I do feel kinda guilty now. Oh well. C'est la Dark Souls.

Also, I noticed it seems like you waste arrows.

Yeah, I make a lot of dumb mistakes in this game that I shouldn't. I know about putting away the bow without shooting, I just always forget in the heat of things. Either that, or too many hours of Oblivion...

Dark Souls.

sigh... Dark Souls...

Edited by AndyD74

I enjoyed your videos, you guys have a good sense of humor. You said that the guy who helped you beat the Gaping Dragon probably got a lot of humanities.....actually he only gets ONE humanity for helping you beat the boss. Also, I noticed it seems like you waste arrows, like after you've killed an enemy and there's no one to shoot at but you have your bow drawn for another shot, you go ahead and release the arrow at nothing. Instead of doing that, you can hit "right" on the d-pad and unequip your bow, then you won't release the arrow. EDIT: The very last part of your fourth video reminded me of something. Dark Souls.

Posted by drevilbones

Holy shit, you guys. Fuck Blight Town. Like, for real.

Posted by dudeglove

@drevilbones said:

(can you even get back to the asylum?)

Once you've opened the elevator shortcut between firelink and undead parish, you might just discover a way back up to the crow's nest...

Posted by drevilbones

@idoublespy said:

In my experience making nearly 10 characters and sinking 140 hours into this game

That is hardcore, dude! Impressive!

Posted by drevilbones

@RockmanBionics said:

Since you asked, yes you can get back there once you've opened up the elevator between Undead Parish and Firelink Shrine.

Oh, you know what? I'm pretty sure I know what elevator you're talking about. Hmm. Perhaps we will check it out if we run into some trouble. Thanks for the tips!

Posted by JackSukeru

@idoublespy said:

@RockmanBionics: I would say that the early Firekeeper Soul located in New Londo Ruins can be a pain early on; so getting the Firekeeper Soul from the Chruch in Undead Parish is a sure bet.

Since I discovered it, it is the first thing I go for when starting a new character. Basically I arrive in Firelink, spend all my souls then take the elevator down and do a suicide run for it. You don't lose anything because you are not alive yet and don't carry any Humanity either.

@drevilbones said:

We're not actually planning on finishing the whole game (well, that is at least not on video). We're ending this series with the ringing of the second bell. There are plenty of others doing full runs of this game on YouTube, and I personally get bored with 100+ video Let's Plays. I want it to have a shorter, stated goal and then move on to other games.

I think that was a good choice, though if you'd later do a "Misadventures in Sen's Fortress" video, edited to show a bunch of deaths (I'm assuming :) ) like the beginnning of this first one, I wouldn't compain.

@drevilbones said:

  • You need to bring this item to a certain character in the starting area in order to use it properly.

The Firelink Shrine area or the Undead Asylum? (can you even get back to the asylum?)

Since you asked, yes you can get back there once you've opened up the elevator between Undead Parish and Firelink Shrine. The path there is really obscure and going at all is completely optional, however I would still recommend it since it has two really useful items (one of which should make your journey to the second bell slightly easier) as well as an item required to enter another unique, optional zone later in the game (that just so happens to be my favorite). I should warn you though, the area has been repopulated with slightly stronger enemies.

Posted by rynbeed

This is great!

Man though... it can be hard to watch someone else play a Souls games sometimes. The deliberate and methodic way that a person has to play a game like this makes someone like me go "But! Ah no - you should have, gah!" at almost every encounter.

As always, looking forward to future installments.

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