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Posted by Eviternal

Apathetically: I hope this is good. Singleplayer is what counts though.

Frustrated: Forum trolls should return to their bridges.

Narcissistic-ally: I'm currently playing through ME2 again. I'm having fun.

Posted by birdnoise

SO GLAD THEY ARE DOING THIS. LET ME BE A SALARIAN IN THE STG. OR ME AND MY HOMIES IN A GETH DEATH SQUAD. GOOD IDEA BIOWARE. THANK YOU.

Posted by Marokai

Meh, I don't know. I'm pretty ice-cold on this multiplayer stuff and continue to be even after this trailer. I'm tired of every game trying to shoe-horn in multiplayer, streamline games into increasing simplicity for "wider audiences," and play more and more like every other game. I'm also tired of feeling like I need to apologize for that. Is it too much to ask for a game to not do what it seems like literally every single other fucking game in existence is doing?
 
/sigh
 
Also, count me in with the people baffled at how many players chose the Soldier class. That is always the blandest and least mechanically complex class of any game I can think of. I understand if some people legitimately pick and enjoy Soldier classes, but let's not pretend that most of the general audience that picked it probably didn't pick it for any other reason than "THESE OTHER CLASSES LOOK COMPLICATED, I JUST WANNA SHOOT." I could never imagine playing any game with their equivalent "warrior" classes.

Posted by AngelN7

@mutha3: They did, not in the game but each of the class selection screens is very self explanatory.

Posted by AngelN7

@Vertrucio: I can't deal with Soilders Herpying Derpying that's why I play as an Engineer , also Biotics is not space magic! (kinda but no) I'ts space pocket science for mass control and not everybody is born with it only Asaris in the ME Universe, but sure soilders know their tactics and how to use a gun but they really don't have any particular skill to solve any other problem on the battlefield that dosn't rely on a weapon.

Posted by VTheSystemV

Actually like the look of this. Skeptical, yeah, but it does look a lot better than I imagined.

Drell or Krogan for me. Who the hell will play as a Human if there's Drell, Krogan, Turian, Asari and Salarian to choose from?!

Posted by Anund

@Hellstrom said:

I honestly don't understand people's complaints about ME2. ME2 had a better climax. It had better DLC. It had better gameplay & it had better characters. Which is why i'm pissed that only the original ME squadmates will be permanent squaddies in ME3 and none of the ME2 characters will. Almost every single character in ME1 (save Liara, Wrex, Garrus) was boring. I also don't get the complaints about RPG elements.

The original ME had a clunky upgrade system at best there was nothing grand about it. ME2 lost nothing speacial. Please PLEASE stop saying ME1 had indepth RPG elements. It never did. The series was always action first RPG second. ME3's weapon customization looks far more indepth than ME1.

It didn't have in depth RPG elements. But it sure had more of them than ME2 did. What happened to all the skills I could choose from? And what happened to all my loot drops? Say what you will, I had a lot more fun with ME1 than I did ME2. I replayed ME1 three times straight. I barely made it through ME2 at all.

Posted by n0nametaz

Holy shit!

Edited by TheSouthernDandy

Man I'm totally on board for this. This trailer looks super rad. I really hope Bioware knocks this one out of the park, I wants a good game. Also if the game turns out meh the amount of "ME3 SUCKS" threads will be impossible to avoid.

Posted by spilledmilkfactory

No thanks. I'll admit I've been wishing for multiplayer in Mass Effect since the first one, but not co-op. Maybe it'll surprise me and be a lot of fun, but after the first two entries were so story-focused, I just hope Bioware is focused on delivering a satisfying conclusion to the series.

Posted by Aas

Remember: No Turian.

Posted by dbthelinguaphile

MY BODY IS READY

Posted by ThePhantomStranger

@Allison said:

@MannySavior said:

So, let me get this straight. Claiming that a class is overpowered is "silently cursing Bioware" and telling you, random internet person, to not make a jackass statement is "beating down a girl".

I told YOU man/woman/thing to go screw yourself. Oh, but I guess I should feel bad because you're a gurrrrrl gamr right? You are no better than the immature little XBox live brats that piss their pants every time they hear something that sounds like a female on the mic. Congrats on contributing to setting the females that happen to enjoy games back a few years with your silly mentality.

Once again, go screw yourself.

Maybe you shouldn't use that kind of tone when I said nothing of the sort. Ass. :3

Oh look someone tried to save face by playing the gender card or something...I don't even know what happened here...

It's really a conundrum! I can't assume this Allison person is just some raging troll lashing out at everyone because this guy is the only person she/he responds to but at the same time she is freaking out at the guy for insulting her over "that tone" which seems to have no gender relation...

Troll? or notTroll? you decide. This and much more on tonight's episode of Unsolved Mysteries.

Posted by overburning

I normally don't touch multiplayer, but this looks intriguing.

Posted by SASFalcon119

I would have liked to see some kind of special co-op missions in this, even if they had simplish objectives like in Alien Swarm

I can imagine different classes would play different roles then. e.g. Engineer used to hack doors and use sentry guns for defense. Vanguard/sentinel taking the primary role of disrupting stationary emplacements, Soldier doing the main damage etc

Which class would be a medic type again?

Posted by Grixxel

@gringbot: You have some great points. But i'm such a piece of shit, i'm still buying it just on the fact I want more ME even if it no longer represents the original idea. :(

Posted by Grixxel

@WJist said:

Posted by MeatSim

I really only care about the single player but I will probably give this a try.

Edited by Hellstrom

I honestly don't understand people's complaints about ME2. ME2 had a better climax. It had better DLC. It had better gameplay & it had better characters. Which is why i'm pissed that only the original ME squadmates will be permanent squaddies in ME3 and none of the ME2 characters will. Almost every single character in ME1 (save Liara, Wrex, Garrus) was boring. I also don't get the complaints about RPG elements.

The original ME had a clunky upgrade system at best there was nothing grand about it. ME2 lost nothing speacial. Please PLEASE stop saying ME1 had indepth RPG elements. It never did. The series was always action first RPG second. ME3's weapon customization looks far more indepth than ME1.

Posted by captain_clayman

wait. wait.

i can play as a krogan? sold.

Posted by Vertrucio

Another way you have to think about playing a Soldier class is this: Haven't you ever wanted that evil or just arrogant mage taken down a peg, just because he's born able to use magic?

Soldiers aren't just herp a derp. The best train their minds and bodies to be the best killers they can be. When you can't rely on fancy gadgets or magic, you rely on good training, tactics, and anything else you can get your hands on to win the day. Storywise, against threats like biotics and the awesome tech powers, a soldier who defeats them isn't just herp a derping around shooting, he's displaying incredible combat prowess by defeating opponents with such natural advantages against him.

It's like the Metal Gear series. Solid Snake is just a soldier, but he's also the best damn soldier able to take on and win against some crazy supernatural opponents.

Posted by FreakAche

@Allison said:

Ugh who even PLAYED as Soldier? Even the tech marine whatever was more fun than playing Soldier. "Yep just gonna play this RPG as the generic FPS class durdurdurudur"

Although I went vanguard on first playthrough, sentinel on second for Mass Effect 2, I played a soldier in Mass Effect 1. Squad mates are for spellcastin'! Shepard is for shootin'!

Posted by mutha3
@Doctorchimp said:

@Skanker said:

@EchoEcho: It's more the fact that it's pretty dumb to play a bland-ass class like Soldier in Mass Effect. There's a whole bunch of powers you could be messing with to make combat more varied in interesting, instead of opting for SHOOT DUDES SHOOT DUDES SHOOT DUDES.

Yeah...

And that 70% of people who picked the shooting class go on forums and complain about how much more of a shooter Mass Effect 2 was.

But in regards to the trailer....man.

Hopefully they let you pick Krogan and he has Biotic Charge...that would be incredible.

Bioware shares blame in this as well, of course. You are barely given any context as to what the other classes mean when you play Mass Effect 2.  

Imagine if you're new to the ME universe: you're essentially being asked "do you want to have access to every traditional TPS weapon in the game or do you want to play as one of these nebulously defined classes, with skill-names that don't mean anything to you being the only thing that differentiates them?".
 
If they had just made a couple of tutorial vids that you could see when selecting a class, I'm sure the split would have been a lot more even.
Posted by cruxking

I have to be honest, that looked cool. But that didn't look like mass effect. When the hell did this series turn into a fuckin Bay movie ?

Posted by Irvandus

Yes.

Posted by doobie

@gringbot said:

I really dislike a few things about ME3, and the direction they took the series as a whole.

1) How the original was a genuinely unique sci-fi RPG epic with deep story elements and well developed characters, and with each new installment we move closer to a gears of war/modern warfare "military" game with the sci-fi backdrop while sacrificing a well told over-arching story. Sure you could argue that ME2 was "well-done" in terms of story presentation, but if you look at the story as a whole, its extremely shallow and you could even make the case that it was pointless. ME3 looks no different as everything they have told us about the game is "dur shoot the reapers til they dead". Even the change to the omni-tool to an omni-"blade" shows disrespect to the soul of the franchise, because it doesn't even make logical SENSE. But regardless of the logistics of the device, it shows they are just adding "stuff that people will think is cool" just to make the game more marketable (and as a result, soulless).

(also adding, that of course ME1 had 'issues', but they were 'work-around-able' (?) if you put just a small amount of effort into it. and if you really hated the mako it was for the most part optional.)

2) Origin. Should be enough said, and if you're one of those "WHATS THE PROBLEM WITH ORIGIN?" people, then maybe you should do a little research into why exactly origin is atrocious and needs to be reworked from the ground up before opening your mouth. I'm all for competition against steam, but the reason steam wins and is exponentially growing each year (while EA's loses increase) is because of its QUALITY. Not only that, but the way in which EA removed themselves from steam is just flat-out outrageous. They BLAMED steam and lied about everything they said in order to make them look like the move was justified by some noble cause, when really it's obvious they wanted to make their own digital distribution cash cow which is really all they needed to say.

3) Bioware went from a company I could take seriously to just another brand name owned by EA, and boy does it show. RPG elements went sharply from having genuine depth to being remarkably shallow almost overnight following the success of Dragon Age. The Bioware name is just a stamp to them now to make a game sell more and its disgraceful and misleading. SWTOR was well-done in some area's but overall was a raging disappointment due to its extremely shallow and poorly-developed combat, as well as its cheesy dialogue.

The funny thing is that this game will sell well and will get all kinds of high scores, but in the end EA will still lose money in the long run due to them being completely incompetent.

it a good job the internet has people to warn us and see through the bullshit. i was all ready to preorder ME3 but those 3 points you raised have changed my perception on gaming as a whole.

no ME3 for me

Posted by ninjadude853

Okay, Mass Effect 3's multiplayer just became AWESOME.

Posted by Alcamin

@137: Please look through previous comments as it has been pointed out numerous times already that the date in the video is using the common day-month-year format, not month-day-year. So don't worry, ME3 hasn't been delayed.

Posted by 137

what happened to march, mass effect got pushed back to september??? jesus.

Posted by Alcamin

Although my main reason for playing Mass Effect 3 is to enjoy the story, and experience the universe and lore that has been created around it, I am at least curious to see how this works. I'm not expecting anything more than a simple romp, but getting a few friends together and trying to save the galaxy could be entraining. My pre-order is in, at any rate.

Posted by bkbroiler

I like how people act like ME1 was some sort of hardcore RPG. That game had bland, not-very-good third person shooting that was improved immensely in ME2. The powers are used exactly the same way, just with different cooldowns. They didn't violate the "soul" of the franchise. At that point the franchise was ONE GAME. Get over it.

Posted by HerbieBug

man... what is Bioware's problem? :(

Posted by Ghost_of_Perdition

Vanguard all the way indeed. Krogan. Asari. Doesn't matter, I'll play as both!

Posted by golguin

Vanguard all the way. You get to shoot and blow people away with powers. If you run out of ammo (I never did) you can just spam abilities until you pick up some more ammo.

Posted by gringbot

I really dislike a few things about ME3, and the direction they took the series as a whole.

1) How the original was a genuinely unique sci-fi RPG epic with deep story elements and well developed characters, and with each new installment we move closer to a gears of war/modern warfare "military" game with the sci-fi backdrop while sacrificing a well told over-arching story. Sure you could argue that ME2 was "well-done" in terms of story presentation, but if you look at the story as a whole, its extremely shallow and you could even make the case that it was pointless. ME3 looks no different as everything they have told us about the game is "dur shoot the reapers til they dead". Even the change to the omni-tool to an omni-"blade" shows disrespect to the soul of the franchise, because it doesn't even make logical SENSE. But regardless of the logistics of the device, it shows they are just adding "stuff that people will think is cool" just to make the game more marketable (and as a result, soulless).

(also adding, that of course ME1 had 'issues', but they were 'work-around-able' (?) if you put just a small amount of effort into it. and if you really hated the mako it was for the most part optional.)

2) Origin. Should be enough said, and if you're one of those "WHATS THE PROBLEM WITH ORIGIN?" people, then maybe you should do a little research into why exactly origin is atrocious and needs to be reworked from the ground up before opening your mouth. I'm all for competition against steam, but the reason steam wins and is exponentially growing each year (while EA's loses increase) is because of its QUALITY. Not only that, but the way in which EA removed themselves from steam is just flat-out outrageous. They BLAMED steam and lied about everything they said in order to make them look like the move was justified by some noble cause, when really it's obvious they wanted to make their own digital distribution cash cow which is really all they needed to say.

3) Bioware went from a company I could take seriously to just another brand name owned by EA, and boy does it show. RPG elements went sharply from having genuine depth to being remarkably shallow almost overnight following the success of Dragon Age. The Bioware name is just a stamp to them now to make a game sell more and its disgraceful and misleading. SWTOR was well-done in some area's but overall was a raging disappointment due to its extremely shallow and poorly-developed combat, as well as its cheesy dialogue.

The funny thing is that this game will sell well and will get all kinds of high scores, but in the end EA will still lose money in the long run due to them being completely incompetent.

Posted by blueinferno

Well, I play Mass Effect for the single player experience, but this looks alright. I'll give it a shot.

Posted by ExplodeMode
@Forum_User said:

@ExplodeMode said:

"9 - 3 - 12"

It was okay until you had to ruin it, video.

It's using the European date format, not American.

Like I said, gross.
Posted by Humanity

@Xeiphyer said:

@EchoEcho said:

@Allison said:

Ugh who even PLAYED as Soldier? Even the tech marine whatever was more fun than playing Soldier. "Yep just gonna play this RPG as the generic FPS class durdurdurudur"

How in the world could people play this RPG that uses third-person shooter combat mechanics as the shooter class! Those people are clearly inferior human beings! I heard that if you play as the Soldier, you don't even get to engage in conversation with NPCs, customize your gear, or even level up! It's like you're not playing an RPG at all!

Soldier was also the most played class by a huge margin, they released statistics. Also, heaven forbid someone have different interests than you! How dare they! Everyone knows they put the other classes in as a joke and there's only one real way to play! Derp derp derp, shut the fuck up.

I played as soldier in ME1 and it was boring so I switched the Adept and beat the game 2-3 loving the combat. In ME2 they really nerfed all adept abilities and my friend who was playing a soldier class was telling me about all the cool abilities he had. Who knows how the classes will play in ME3.

Posted by Xeiphyer
@EchoEcho said:

@Allison said:

Ugh who even PLAYED as Soldier? Even the tech marine whatever was more fun than playing Soldier. "Yep just gonna play this RPG as the generic FPS class durdurdurudur"

How in the world could people play this RPG that uses third-person shooter combat mechanics as the shooter class! Those people are clearly inferior human beings! I heard that if you play as the Soldier, you don't even get to engage in conversation with NPCs, customize your gear, or even level up! It's like you're not playing an RPG at all!

Soldier was also the most played class by a huge margin, they released statistics.
 
Also, heaven forbid someone have different interests than you! How dare they! Everyone knows they put the other classes in as a joke and there's only one real way to play! Derp derp derp, shut the fuck up.
Posted by Rawson

Everything I've seen about this game in leaks makes it look like Dragon Age 2: Mass Effect Edition.

Strap yourselves in for more creepy fan pandering, courtesy of Bioware.

Posted by Forum_User

@ExplodeMode said:

"9 - 3 - 12"

It was okay until you had to ruin it, video.

It's using the European date format, not American.

Posted by Forum_User
Posted by Allison

@MannySavior said:

So, let me get this straight. Claiming that a class is overpowered is "silently cursing Bioware" and telling you, random internet person, to not make a jackass statement is "beating down a girl".

I told YOU man/woman/thing to go screw yourself. Oh, but I guess I should feel bad because you're a gurrrrrl gamr right? You are no better than the immature little XBox live brats that piss their pants every time they hear something that sounds like a female on the mic. Congrats on contributing to setting the females that happen to enjoy games back a few years with your silly mentality.

Once again, go screw yourself.

Maybe you shouldn't use that kind of tone when I said nothing of the sort. Ass. :3

Edited by huser

@Metal_Mills said:

They spelled Sentinel wrong....

Along with Cluster "Gernade" for the Drell Vanguard. Oh well, maybe it's a clever way to show how language changed in nearly 2 hundred years.

@sthusby said:

@Shadow said:

What? I can't be an elcor?

You win!

EDIT: What about Hanar?

I'd love to play as an Elcor Heavy with my very own turret, or as a Hanar Spectre, but I'd love to play as a Volus Biotic God. Maybe those drugs didn't enhance biotic powers but supressed them? Guy couldn't even stand effectively after all.

Then again, I'd love to play as the last survivor of the DC1938 system. The one rescued by the MSV Kent and who breathes Krypton. I'm thinking Charge, Adrenaline Rush and Incinerate (and yes being a tech, biotic, combat combo) Overpowered? Definitely.

Edited by huser

@Allison said:

Ugh who even PLAYED as Soldier? Even the tech marine whatever was more fun than playing Soldier. "Yep just gonna play this RPG as the generic FPS class durdurdurudur"

I think the Bombcast crew almost exclusively played Soldier, except Vinny on a 2nd playthrough. It is the most straightforward way to play and for people on the clock I guess I can see wanting to streamline gameplay between games as much as possible. Though I agree with you in that given options that seems the most boring way to go through the ME universe.

EDIT - And I think the vast majority played as soldier as well.

Posted by FieldCommanderRick

That would be day-month-year.

Posted by PurplePartyRobot

So, is this game getting pushed back to September or something? Maybe I am misinterpreting the "9 - 3 - 12" date?

Posted by ExplodeMode

"9 - 3 - 12"

It was okay until you had to ruin it, video.

Posted by jorbear

Yeah, this sounds okay.

Posted by Chris2KLee

Looking good, co-op multiplayer in an ME universe looks pretty sweet.

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