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Posted by Grondoth

Wow, these comments are reminding me how terrible video game people are with gender issues. For a hobby that embraces technological innovation, a big chunk of you guys are pretty backwards. Harassment isn't tolerable. Sexism isn't funny or acceptable. We've got to grow up as a community.

Posted by NancyDrewFan123

@Conceited said:

Great, now a bunch of people who have no idea what happened and have no perspective on this because they aren't involved in the FGC will blow this infinitely out of proportion and think the FGC is filled with scumbags. While I realize Aris is largely to blame for this, this article did not need to be written. Why not do a positive piece on how awesome the FGC is? How accepting they are of Ricky Ortiz (openly gay) and Kayopolice? (Trans-gendered)

I don't know if you're going to win your argument by pointing out two people that are both constantly the object of ridicule and scorn within the fighting game community. I mean, even the "nice" members of the FGC have some not cool things to say about Kayo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU378JRzsuU

Posted by moregrammarplz

@Pinworm45 said:

I think the PC culture is fucking garbage and needs to be replaced with something I prefer.

Who the fuck are you to dictate what a group of people can and can not enjoy? Who the fuck are you to be this moral arbiter? How about you exercise your rights to ignore that which you don't like, and partake in that which you do? I'm not going out of my way to force you and your group of friends to swear do whatever you don't like, show me the same respect (or at least that's what I'd say if I was part of their group, I'm not)

But you don't deserve respect. All you do is insult each other and do hateful shit like chant "BITCH BITCH BITCH" when a woman is playing.

I don't care about your culture. Just because eSports wants to be an exclusive little club doesn't exempt them from having to act like decent human beings. Same goes for all the other similar communities that eSports apologists cite as evidence that it's okay to act like complete shitheads.

Posted by Sword5

@Conceited: What did Jared do? He always seemed like a dirt bag outside of his Giantbomb appearances.

Posted by Phonics

@Aohnonono said:

@Phonics said:

Lets completely ignore the fact that the FGC is one of the biggest real life trolling fests where everyone gets blown up all the time. If you can't handle someone telling you that they are going to sniff your hair if you lose then maybe you're in the wrong place. In her audition she claimed that shes into the fighting game community but still she would crack because of Aris acting creepy? What bullshit, she knew she couldn't hack it at the game and didn't really want to be there and this is why this came out. Even Sherry called her soft.

I just feel for the amazing people that could of been on the show instead of her. Regardless of what kind of criticism this brings from various clueless journalists (Jim Sterling) or eeeeesports people, who have ZERO clue what they are talking about, fighting games will continue to bring the hype and big personalities, something other 'esports' still can't do.

Sherry's an uncle tom and she wasn't there in the room whle Miranda was being harassed by aris, she has no say in how super__yan felt or should feel. The fact that you're trying to blame the victim is utterly disgusting. You're blaming Miranda for wasting a spot, you're saying she should have known she was going to be constantly sexually harassed by Aris upon accepting an invitation to the show. Get real.

Don't worry dude I'm sure she'll hold your hand if you defend her hard enough.

Edited by Pinworm45

@Aohnonono said:

@Phonics said:

Lets completely ignore the fact that the FGC is one of the biggest real life trolling fests where everyone gets blown up all the time. If you can't handle someone telling you that they are going to sniff your hair if you lose then maybe you're in the wrong place. In her audition she claimed that shes into the fighting game community but still she would crack because of Aris acting creepy? What bullshit, she knew she couldn't hack it at the game and didn't really want to be there and this is why this came out. Even Sherry called her soft.

I just feel for the amazing people that could of been on the show instead of her. Regardless of what kind of criticism this brings from various clueless journalists (Jim Sterling) or eeeeesports people, who have ZERO clue what they are talking about, fighting games will continue to bring the hype and big personalities, something other 'esports' still can't do.

Sherry's an uncle tom and she wasn't there in the room whle Miranda was being harassed by aris, she has no say in how super__yan felt or should feel. The fact that you're trying to blame the victim is utterly disgusting. You're blaming Miranda for wasting a spot, you're saying she should have known she was going to be constantly sexually harassed by Aris upon accepting an invitation to the show. Get real.

Someone who was "trash-talked at" - particularly with a group that's known for mutual, jest trash talk - isn't a victim. The very proposition is insulting to people who are actually victims.

Posted by bybeach

I'm confused,why can't it be 'Fuck em up!' as oppossed to 'Rape that bitch'. sounds like somebody has something on their mind when they get emotional, just not the idea you are going to rip your opponent a new asshole.. Though lines do get frequently crossed, war isn't to rape, it is to kill. This is sort of the same mentality, right? Notice how much class we view people who rape in war? 
 
Just wondering.
Posted by RedEyesBlueBunny

it's really unfortunate what happened, but i still love Aris. he took this one a little too far though. It was a very unlucky situation for Miranda who seems like a very sweet and sensitive person, and that's not the kind of person that Aris knows how to deal with.

Posted by whatthegeek

@Figyg: I'm not sure I get your point - women are equal as long as they dress conservatively and are depicted as such in video games?

Or is your point that sexual harassment exists because sexy women are just too damned attractive not to get harassed?

It doesn't matter how the women in the game are depicted, it doesn't matter how the women being harassed were dressed, it doesn't matter how old the harasser is - sexual harassment is wrong. Period - end of story. There's no qualifier here - it's not OK to sexually harass someone because Cammy made you all hot and bothered. By putting qualifiers on when and how sexual harassment can be OK you're essentially validating sexual misconduct of all kinds, and that's a douchey thing to do.

Posted by bloodsoul5

This article is bullshit. As someone who has watched FGC tournament streams for a few years now, I can safely say Aris does not represent the community. This is being blown way the fuck out of the proportion.

Posted by Aohnonono

@Phonics said:

Lets completely ignore the fact that the FGC is one of the biggest real life trolling fests where everyone gets blown up all the time. If you can't handle someone telling you that they are going to sniff your hair if you lose then maybe you're in the wrong place. In her audition she claimed that shes into the fighting game community but still she would crack because of Aris acting creepy? What bullshit, she knew she couldn't hack it at the game and didn't really want to be there and this is why this came out. Even Sherry called her soft.

I just feel for the amazing people that could of been on the show instead of her. Regardless of what kind of criticism this brings from various clueless journalists (Jim Sterling) or eeeeesports people, who have ZERO clue what they are talking about, fighting games will continue to bring the hype and big personalities, something other 'esports' still can't do.

Sherry's an uncle tom and she wasn't there in the room whle Miranda was being harassed by aris, she has no say in how super__yan felt or should feel. The fact that you're trying to blame the victim is utterly disgusting. You're blaming Miranda for wasting a spot, you're saying she should have known she was going to be constantly sexually harassed by Aris upon accepting an invitation to the show. Get real.

Posted by Mdk5631

who cares?

Posted by CornishRocker

It's people like that who keep me from playing fighting games online. They certainly don't allow for much growth in their communities outside of people clearly stuck in an early teen mindset.

Posted by McQuinn
@Pinworm45

@Deusoma said:

@Pinworm45 said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@McQuinn said:

Aris is the captain because he is the biggest supporter of the 3D fighting game community. He is definitely an ass, but he does it jokingly and not insultingly although pretty blunt and childish. Making fun of people is a part of the fighting game community and it is there to build competition and hype. Everyone knew Aris was going to act like that. Sherry, the other female contestant, looked quite pissed that Miranda forfeited.

Why is being an intolerate asshole part of the FGC? Why can't people be respectful of others and treat everyone fairly? I'm not saying you can't rib each other, but you don't have to be an complete asshole when you do it. Your comments shouldn't make someone else feel uncomfortable. Giving the dude a pass because he's joking and does it to everyone isn't acceptable. Saying it as a joke does not automatically make it okay to say. If thats how the community operates, why would anyone ever want to become a part of it?

He does treat everyone fairly. he smacktalks to everyone equally. It's part of his scene.

Being horrible to everyone may be "being fair" inasmuch that it's balanced, but it is absolutely not "treating people fairly"; treating a person fairly means to treat them with respect and dignity. The fact that he is an asshole to everyone instead of just to some people doesn't negate the fact that he's still an asshole. WilliamHenry was absolutely correct.

He's doing it in jest and it's part of the culture. He's hardly the only one who does it, and it's the type of culture that he and his peers enjoy. Who are you to tell them to change?

Look, as fat creepy looking guy, Aris isn't a bad guy, just an immature one from the old school arcade scene. He expects people to reciprocate because getting people heated is fun and hype. Some people are soft, but Aris won't change the way he is because he's been around since soul calibur 1.
Posted by Philzpilz

That was fairly despicable

Posted by Snorlaaax

@Aohnonono said:

@Snorlaaax said:

Clearly, you haven't watched. Or else, you would've known Aris was "harassing" everyone. Mike Ross, Kor, and Ricky Ortiz. And when someone said maybe he was going too far with Miranda, SHE shrugged it off and laughed. Dismissing it as if it wasn't anything. Also, he sniffed Mike Ross; where were you then, white knight?

Sniffing Mike Ross and harassing other people isn't cool either, you complete and utter tool. Miranda did speak up on day 2 and Capcom REPRIMANDED ARIS ABOUT IT! This is a direct quote from sp00ky this morning. He continued to be a dick and Capcom did nothing.

Kid, I know you want really bad to be that guy in this situation, but seriously, you will get nothing out of playing white knight. You never do. You're closing your eyes and refusing to look at the situation from all angles. Which is fine---just don't complain to me when people call you out for being very naive.

Posted by Pinworm45

@moregrammarplz said:

@Pinworm45 said:

He's done similar if not worse things to other people. None of them cared and found it funny. Why should he and his friends all change the culture they've created to satisfy ONE person out of political correctness - something he actively wants to avoid in his community?

Because the 'culture' he's created is fucking garbage and needs to be replaced with something civilized.

I think the PC culture is fucking garbage and needs to be replaced with something I prefer.

Who the fuck are you to dictate what a group of people can and can not enjoy? Who the fuck are you to be this moral arbiter? How about you exercise your rights to ignore that which you don't like, and partake in that which you do? I'm not going out of my way to force you and your group of friends to swear do whatever you don't like, show me the same respect (or at least that's what I'd say if I was part of their group, I'm not)

Posted by dudeglove

Just a sample of the racist/sexist remarks I've received after a couple of SFIV matches.

Posted by mfpantst
@Kratch said:

There is a difference between trash talking and making fun of people, and being sexist or racist in a hurtful way. If you have to resort to sexism or racism to trash talk, you're probably not very good at it.

This.  Also, if you want to split hairs I think the possibility exists there's a place for 'smack talk' in the vein of talking about how you're beating a player, even using sexual phrasing (like raping) and I think tons of smart people could argue that point until we're all blue in the face.  But seriously?  Talking about someone's bra size?  Talking about having two girls mudwrestle and you 'take home' the winner?  a) how is that "trash talk" even remotely? and b) I guess when this dude was in high school and he tried to feel up some girl he thought was hot nobody stepped in and put his nuts in his throat.  I'm shocked that doesn't happen when he's in a room.  I mean he's a big guy, but that just means bad fucking knees right?
 
Also
@rmanthorp said:

I'm SO mad you reported on this. YOU GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT!


Seriously, Patrick.  Great article.  Great series of articles for a while now.  Good job. (or GG!!!!!?)
Posted by astonish

What a douche.

Posted by Lunar_Aura

@Pinworm45 said:

@jasondesante said:

some homo virgin rips on girls because he is fat and hideous and half retarded. Just put him in a corner and let him have his tantrum. Girls that play fighting games are just as cool as guys that play fighting games. Trash talk in fighting games is a last resort for those who aren't comfortable playing the game.

He insults men just as much as girls.. just no one gives a shit about that. People have to white knight girls, which is sexist itself, because it's implying that women can't handle trash talk, which apparently this one couldn't. Pretty fucking ironic that you proceed to call this guy a "homo virgin" who can't get girls because he is fat, as if that is somehow any less sexist than anything he has ever said. it is in fact more sexist, because his "sexism" was merely gendered insults like "bitch".

Thank you for this.

Posted by Pinworm45

@clientkiller said:

Patrick, I'm really glad you're highlighting this kind of harassment in video games. If the industry is to be taken seriously by the world then it means everyone involved needs to take responsibility to stop this kind of thing from being seen as "normal". Playing games online gives anonymity and the free reign to be sexist, racist and homophobic without consequence.

Do you even understand what's going on? This didn't happen "online", it wasn't even close to Anonymous, this article has nothing to do with either of those things, and nothing that happened was even close to Sexist, Racist, or Homophobic.

Posted by leejunfan83

This article doesn't belong on Giant bomb

Edited by Phonics

Lets completely ignore the fact that the FGC is one of the biggest real life trolling fests where everyone gets blown up all the time. If you can't handle someone telling you that they are going to sniff your hair if you lose then maybe you're in the wrong place. In her audition she claimed that shes into the fighting game community but still she would crack because of Aris acting creepy? What bullshit, she knew she couldn't hack it at the game and didn't really want to be there and this is why this came out. Even Sherry called her soft.

I just feel for the amazing people that could of been on the show instead of her. Regardless of what kind of criticism this brings from various clueless journalists (Jim Sterling) or eeeeesports people, who have ZERO clue what they are talking about, fighting games will continue to bring the hype and big personalities, something other 'esports' still can't do.

Also lets not mention that aris is known for acting creepy and doing this to everyone including sherry, mike ross and tastysteve. Stay free 'journalists'

Posted by moregrammarplz

@Pinworm45 said:

He's done similar if not worse things to other people. None of them cared and found it funny. Why should he and his friends all change the culture they've created to satisfy ONE person out of political correctness - something he actively wants to avoid in his community?

Because the 'culture' he's created is fucking garbage and needs to be replaced with something civilized.

Posted by soundlug

@darkdragonmage99: I always love the "Free Speech" scapegoat. Let me quote Warren Ellis:

"And before the nutters start: yes, I’m sure this can be justified as your lovely American free speech and not hate speech or malicious communication, and yes, I’m sure he has a perfect right to say it and all that shit. Guess what? I have a perfect right not to like it, and a right to wish not to be associated with the nutter who spews it."

http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=11532

Edited by clientkiller

Patrick, I'm really glad you're highlighting this kind of harassment in video games. If the industry is to be taken seriously by the world then it means everyone involved needs to take responsibility to stop this kind of thing from being seen as "normal". Playing games online gives anonymity and the free reign to be sexist, racist and homophobic without consequence.

I would say there is a wider problem of MOST companies completely ignoring what is going on in their communities or not wanting to deal with these issues. Even though they shouldn't, young children are playing online and watching these e-streams and being influenced by the people they look up to.

It's not enough for Capcom to apologise, but rather they should openly ban all those involved on team Tekken from being involved in all future Capcom run tournaments.

Posted by LaserLambert

@Sooty: EVO went on while fighting games WERE dead, so that event is meaningless, but combine the declining variety of fighting with the disgusting nature of the community come to more light, I'd say it's not crazy to imagine. also it was a hyperbole, no need to treat me like an idiot child.

Edited by Aohnonono

@Snorlaaax said:

Clearly, you haven't watched. Or else, you would've known Aris was "harassing" everyone. Mike Ross, Kor, and Ricky Ortiz. And when someone said maybe he was going too far with Miranda, SHE shrugged it off and laughed. Dismissing it as if it wasn't anything. Also, he sniffed Mike Ross; where were you then, white knight?

Sniffing Mike Ross and harassing other people isn't cool either, you complete and utter tool. Miranda did speak up on day 2 and Capcom REPRIMANDED ARIS ABOUT IT! This is a direct quote from sp00ky this morning. He continued to be a dick and Capcom did nothing.

Posted by GaspoweR

It's just unfortunate since Aris in reality is a pretty nice guy who has this asshole exterior. I'm not saying what he did is right but its just unfortunate that things got to a point in that show wherein it turned out the way it is right now.

Actually, there has been stuff that has been cleared up in one of the other streams last night in the thisisLIJoe stream where a lot of players did chip in the whole situation including Aris himself and Dr. Sub Zero. I don't know if anyone else on GB was able to see it.The only one that Joe wasn't able to come into contact was Miranda.

Posted by 3pwood

Aris is definitely wrong about sexual harassment being inseparable from the fighting game community. It can be done and it should be done. The things he's doing and saying just serve to drag the community down rather than elevate it.

Posted by Pinworm45

@Aohnonono said:

@Pinworm45 said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@Pinworm45 said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@McQuinn said:

Aris is the captain because he is the biggest supporter of the 3D fighting game community. He is definitely an ass, but he does it jokingly and not insultingly although pretty blunt and childish. Making fun of people is a part of the fighting game community and it is there to build competition and hype. Everyone knew Aris was going to act like that. Sherry, the other female contestant, looked quite pissed that Miranda forfeited.

Why is being an intolerate asshole part of the FGC? Why can't people be respectful of others and treat everyone fairly? I'm not saying you can't rib each other, but you don't have to be an complete asshole when you do it. Your comments shouldn't make someone else feel uncomfortable. Giving the dude a pass because he's joking and does it to everyone isn't acceptable. Saying it as a joke does not automatically make it okay to say. If thats how the community operates, why would anyone ever want to become a part of it?

He does treat everyone fairly. he smacktalks to everyone equally. It's part of his scene.

Ok, so because he does it to everyone then its perfectly ok? It doesn't matter if he's a total asshole, as long as he's one to everyone, right? Being an asshole to everyone still means he is being an asshole. Doing it to everyone doesn't make it okay. Why can't he be respectful of everyone? He can still rib them but he doesn't have to be a total asshole about it. Like I said before, his comments shouldn't make anyone else feel uncomfortable, and its plainly obvious that they do. If you want to rib someone, then fine, but you don't have to be cruel.

I don't think you actually know anything he said. This article is pretty sensationalist and everything he says is in jest - hardly "cruel" or being a "total asshole". No one else is offended by him except this one person, who couldn't handle something that IS part of their culture and scene. How do you draw the line between "ribbing someone" and "going to far" when someone having skin that's too thin is a factor? Why should he and his group change their attitudes to accommodate one person who can't handle it? Why should he change who he is because one person got offended by it?

You're wrong, you clearly didn't watch the video and haven't been watching all week. I have, Aris has been a total disgusting creeper and what he's been doing is NOT simply joking, it's harassment. There's a point at the end of that day 1 video where he leans in and SMELLS HER HAIR after threatening her for losing matches

He's done similar if not worse things to other people. None of them cared and found it funny. Why should he and his friends all change the culture they've created to satisfy ONE person out of political correctness - something he actively wants to avoid in his community?

Posted by Conceited

@jellotek said:

What. How come the fighting game fans I meet are all alright then?

Because this article is about one person and is thus pretty much pointless.

Also, Jared Rea is absolute scum if he really did what Haunts said he did.

Posted by Snorlaaax

Clearly, you haven't watched. Or else, you would've known Aris was "harassing" everyone. Mike Ross, Kor, and Ricky Ortiz. And when someone said maybe he was going too far with Miranda, SHE shrugged it off and laughed. Dismissing it as if it wasn't anything. Also, he sniffed Mike Ross; where were you then, white knight?

Posted by supercubedude

All video game communities have vile scum, let's not single out the fighting game community.

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Posted by mrfluke
@princess_zelda said:

of course he looks like that. lmao.

this is the quote of the day and the comment that matters  
 
so true lmao 
 
people want this shit to be taken seriously but then you have assholes that act like this? thrash-talking or not its still fucking stupid behavior its no different than playing halo or MW online with a bunch of children
   
like it or not there is a percentage that will see this and be like man fuck fighting games, and never play them, and thereby spreading word of mouth poison, 
Posted by Taefarinas

My two cents: I love gaming, though fighting games aren't my thing. This sort of casual sexism is in other communities as well, and there can often be a general negative atmosphere for people who are a bit sensitive (like me). I'd still like to play with other people, but have confined myself mostly to split-screen because I don't want to play with other people who might think it's okay to insult people. It seems juvenile, and yeah, I hate it.

@Harkat said:

Stuff like "rape that bitch!" in gaming contexts is not particularly offensive to me. The group of buddies I play CoD or Battlefield with use the word "rape" interchangeably with "own", as in "I'm owning/raping these guys so hard right now!". I honestly don't believe there is anything sexist behind it. To imply that it is hateful specifically to women would in my opinion be to marginalize male rape victims.

I know that "rape" doesn't always mean the dictionary definition, but when you know people who have been raped (and spoken to you about it; statistics say 1 in 6 US women has experience either rape or attempted rape), it's still very upsetting. As more women join, the chance of someone who has actually been raped reading that increases, and I'm sure very few of the people who make such comments would mean harm. While you are right about the last statement, of course, the vast majority of rape victims are female.

Posted by ThePhantomnaut

The situation has been ridiculous and unfortunate how it turned out.
 
Aris is a bit of an ass hole but he is good guy. He tried to keep himself sane with the harassment and maybe thought it was in good faith. He might have thought the joking might have been accepting within the team including Miranda. Miranda might have reached a breaking point after multiple days which is understandable.
 
I also wanna mention the stream monsters in the chats. I got involved in the harassment along with many others but at the time, we were thinking it was all in good faith and fun and the situation would subside eventually. With the revelations up to yesterday, it's an important sign that we gotta learn what has happened and improve for the future.
 
The long party is over. We gotta go to bed and get ready for the next day.

Posted by Pinworm45

@Deusoma said:

@Pinworm45 said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@McQuinn said:

Aris is the captain because he is the biggest supporter of the 3D fighting game community. He is definitely an ass, but he does it jokingly and not insultingly although pretty blunt and childish. Making fun of people is a part of the fighting game community and it is there to build competition and hype. Everyone knew Aris was going to act like that. Sherry, the other female contestant, looked quite pissed that Miranda forfeited.

Why is being an intolerate asshole part of the FGC? Why can't people be respectful of others and treat everyone fairly? I'm not saying you can't rib each other, but you don't have to be an complete asshole when you do it. Your comments shouldn't make someone else feel uncomfortable. Giving the dude a pass because he's joking and does it to everyone isn't acceptable. Saying it as a joke does not automatically make it okay to say. If thats how the community operates, why would anyone ever want to become a part of it?

He does treat everyone fairly. he smacktalks to everyone equally. It's part of his scene.

Being horrible to everyone may be "being fair" inasmuch that it's balanced, but it is absolutely not "treating people fairly"; treating a person fairly means to treat them with respect and dignity. The fact that he is an asshole to everyone instead of just to some people doesn't negate the fact that he's still an asshole. WilliamHenry was absolutely correct.

He's doing it in jest and it's part of the culture. He's hardly the only one who does it, and it's the type of culture that he and his peers enjoy. Who are you to tell them to change?

Posted by rmanthorp

I'm SO mad you reported on this. YOU GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT!

Moderator
Posted by wapostyle

Just because you have the right to be an asshole doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

It's a bit off topic but I think the basic concept applies.

"With great power comes great responsibility."

-Ben Parker

Posted by Kratch

There is a difference between trash talking and making fun of people, and being sexist or racist in a hurtful way. If you have to resort to sexism or racism to trash talk, you're probably not very good at it.

Posted by demell

I laughed my ass off when I read this and read through these comments. What a perfect example of what our society is turning into. Notice I don't say gaming community. That's too narrow. This is a problem with our society and culture as a whole and putting all the weight of stupidity on just the gaming community degrades all of us just as much as it gives people like this an excuse to keep acting this way.

Then again you have to wonder if you can ever fix this type of behavior within the gaming community. Games are a way for people to express themselves in an environment where they can hide behind another character. Its the modern day make believe opportunity. So if you give people like this the outlet to express themselves through a medium where it may or may not be known who the person actually is these types of comments and this continuing behavior is going to persists and only get worse as more and more people become a part of the community.

So the real question is........should tournaments and live broadcasts like this continue if they are only going to facilitate this type of behavior? Is it really necessary for us to put a video gamer on a pedestal (incidentally you can make the same argument about sports or Hollywood but that's just a hydra of a debate to have) just because we like playing video games?

Second interesting question that just popped into head.............have video games actually benefited from these types of promotions? I mean, the video game industry (like any media industry) is always trying to bring in new people. In my mind these types of live shows and tournaments don't help them in any way and are only tailored to those only in the community. If they don't help bring people in do we, as a community, really need them?

Posted by BonOrbitz

This shit sickens me. It doesn't surprise me, however. Especially the fucking idiots out there who are like "So what? It's just Aris" or "I've never been the politically correct type. Oh well". I love political incorrectness but this is beyond that.

People are yelling "rape that bitch". What the fuck is wrong with you?

And his analogy to basketball was utter nonsense. He compares sexual harassment and it's involvement in the fighting game scene to a basketball and it's role in the game of basketball? He may kick ass in the local fighting game tournaments, but the big picture is that he's a stupid fuck and lacks character and decency; more important and honorable traits in this world.

This is what makes me hate my beloved hobby at times. People like him and those who stand up for him or try to make excuses. This doesn't challenge thinking, rebel smartly against moral boundaries, and it certainly isn't a case for the "freedom of speech".

Posted by spartanlolz92

@Lagaroth said:

Why do gamers have to be assholes at all? You can be plenty competitive without resorting to insults or racist/sexist jokes.

actually any competitive scene has stuff like this take sports. it has a tremendous amount of trash talk.

its sad really it will never change just have to ignore. that why they never play the audio from matches and microphones almost never pick up what players are saying in college / professional sports. itd have more lewd language in it then all of south parks first two seasons

Posted by Seroth

Would Aris forcing Kayo to marry him be considered harassment, too?

Posted by jellotek

What. How come the fighting game fans I meet are all alright then?

Posted by obscurefan

As a full grown adult who loves fighting games, I'm glad this article was written, because I hate how the online community is full of racist and sexist dialogue. Sure, they can say its because they're a bunch of young kids playing it, but when I was in my teenage years I wasn't going around spouting hateful garbage, but something about not having to show your face to people and just talk into a microphone makes people think they can get away with it. We as a video game community need to start cracking down on this behavior, we need to stop celebrating it and laughing about it, and treat it the same way we would in real life.

Posted by Sergotron

Ok that video got real creepy really fast.

Posted by Aohnonono

@Pinworm45 said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@Pinworm45 said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@McQuinn said:

Aris is the captain because he is the biggest supporter of the 3D fighting game community. He is definitely an ass, but he does it jokingly and not insultingly although pretty blunt and childish. Making fun of people is a part of the fighting game community and it is there to build competition and hype. Everyone knew Aris was going to act like that. Sherry, the other female contestant, looked quite pissed that Miranda forfeited.

Why is being an intolerate asshole part of the FGC? Why can't people be respectful of others and treat everyone fairly? I'm not saying you can't rib each other, but you don't have to be an complete asshole when you do it. Your comments shouldn't make someone else feel uncomfortable. Giving the dude a pass because he's joking and does it to everyone isn't acceptable. Saying it as a joke does not automatically make it okay to say. If thats how the community operates, why would anyone ever want to become a part of it?

He does treat everyone fairly. he smacktalks to everyone equally. It's part of his scene.

Ok, so because he does it to everyone then its perfectly ok? It doesn't matter if he's a total asshole, as long as he's one to everyone, right? Being an asshole to everyone still means he is being an asshole. Doing it to everyone doesn't make it okay. Why can't he be respectful of everyone? He can still rib them but he doesn't have to be a total asshole about it. Like I said before, his comments shouldn't make anyone else feel uncomfortable, and its plainly obvious that they do. If you want to rib someone, then fine, but you don't have to be cruel.

I don't think you actually know anything he said. This article is pretty sensationalist and everything he says is in jest - hardly "cruel" or being a "total asshole". No one else is offended by him except this one person, who couldn't handle something that IS part of their culture and scene. How do you draw the line between "ribbing someone" and "going to far" when someone having skin that's too thin is a factor? Why should he and his group change their attitudes to accommodate one person who can't handle it? Why should he change who he is because one person got offended by it?

You're wrong, you clearly didn't watch the video and haven't been watching all week. I have, Aris has been a total disgusting creeper and what he's been doing is NOT simply joking, it's harassment. There's a point at the end of that day 1 video where he leans in and SMELLS HER HAIR after threatening her for losing matches