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Posted by itsSNAFUagain

Can't wait I have always enjoyed the stories from Halo games.

Posted by Masakari

I think Cortana looks more like Jessica Chobot.

Posted by twelve1784

Dear god why does Cortana's face look like Maggie Gyllenhaal's?

Edited by Capum15
@CrossTheAtlantic said:

@Capum15 said:

@CrossTheAtlantic: Yeah. I think in the book First Strike, she starts wondering about her life span due to everything she's learned from Halo. She ended up compressing all the knowledge and storing it for later in order to be more focused, or something like that. Been a while since I've read the books.

Realize I'm replying pretty late, but that sounds about right. I'm not super knowledgeable of the Halo expanded fiction, but everything I've come across points to this "trilogy" being much more involved with what's been happening in the books.

That would be cool, especially if they did something where you find out what happened to the rest of the Spartan IIs and IIIs that went to Onyx along with Halsey.

Edit: Or rather find out what happened to them after the book ended and they were in the Shield World.
Posted by CrossTheAtlantic

@Capum15 said:

@CrossTheAtlantic: Yeah. I think in the book First Strike, she starts wondering about her life span due to everything she's learned from Halo. She ended up compressing all the knowledge and storing it for later in order to be more focused, or something like that. Been a while since I've read the books.

Realize I'm replying pretty late, but that sounds about right. I'm not super knowledgeable of the Halo expanded fiction, but everything I've come across points to this "trilogy" being much more involved with what's been happening in the books.

Posted by mewarmo990

Hello, uncanny valley.

Posted by mutha3
@Shady said:

I clicked on this story so I could stop seeing Cortana's creepy face on the front page.

Same.
Posted by Shady

I clicked on this story so I could stop seeing Cortana's creepy face on the front page.

Posted by l4wd0g

So, is Cortana a sex symbol now cause that's weird.

Posted by arch4non

@Shtinky: Cortana really chubbed up over the last few years.

Posted by DharmaBum

@SuperPickle: 10 years on and still bitter that Halo made consoles the lead platform.

Posted by TheSouthernDandy
@SuperPickle

Console noobs and low res low poly bad controling slow as hell first person shooters.

10 years on and the series still looks like crap....then again everything on the xbox 360 and ps3 looks like crap and have from day 1.

Dawwww look a crazy pc elitist. Haven't seen one of these around here in a while. I missed you guys!
Posted by Aelric

@ez123: yep

Posted by TheSouthernDandy
Posted by TheSouthernDandy
@Phatmac

@modshroom128: Why not play the game first before writing it out completely? From what I've seen it looks really interesting. I love Bungie, but I really like the changes that have gone on in Halo 4 and the new weapons that were added. This game is also getting tested to hell so I bet that it won't unbalanced too much.

Whoaaaa now. Play the game before judging it? You mean, actually make an informed decision as opposed to flying off the handle based on second hand information?
DUDE WHAT?!?!
Posted by Trylks

@Roxasthirteen: rule 34.

Edited by HavokCXVII

@Brad: Why did the UNSC lose every single M6D pistol after Halo 1? Why wasn't the DMR present in every other Halo game, despite Reach being set before it? Why were no Battle Rifles to be found in New Mombasa during ODST, just hours after the events of Halo 2 where they were littered all over the place? Because the game comes before canon, and it always did with Bungie as well (which is why there are like 5 versions of UNSC pistols with zero overlapping appearances -- it doesn't have to make sense). That might sound patronizing, but this kind of thing has happened with every single entry in the series.

They changed the sound because Halo 3's AR sounded like a toy (like many weapons in Halo 3), and they wanted to beef everything up. They did it to every returning weapon-- the Carbine lost its distinctive "pew" sound entirely in favor of a metallic "chunk," the DMR became more bassy, the plasma weapons don't sound as alien, the Beam Rifle sounds closer to a Star Wars blaster, the Battle Rifle (which I would argue is just as iconic as the assault rifle at this point, especially in a multiplayer context) sounds nothing like its predecessors. The AR in particular was never consistent. It changed from Halo CE, to 3, to Reach, to CEA. Not to say that that's an excuse for them losing the identity of some of those weapons in the audio, because I thought that was an admittedly minor problem in CEA as well, but Halo's canon - especially with regard to weapon a/v feedback - has always played second fiddle to design.

Posted by Osaladin

What the fuck is wrong with Cortana's face? I'm creeped out, and I agree, over sexualized.

Posted by Matoyak

Was a HUGE fan of Halo 1 and Halo 2, but I came into the series in a weird way...I read the books years before I had a chance to play the games (owned a PS2, not an XBOX), and Eric Nylund really shaped the way I viewed the series. Halo 3, I felt, was a major letdown, ODST an interesting aside, and I never bothered with Reach...I'd already seen the story, and felt the guys who had done Halo 3 would have no chance of doing the same story even remotely as good. (And it felt almost like a game based on a book, which [similar to movies based on books] rarely work out well). From all the preview coverage, and developer commentary I've been able to find, it seems that 343 are dead set on incorporating aspects of the wider Halo fiction, which Bungie never truly seemed to care about. They also seem willing to make it their own, and take it in a direction that frankly fits more in line with the books, especially as far as tone is concerned. The books have always been a bit more serious than the games, and this one seems to be falling more in line with that.

Basically, I think 343 has the potential to be the best thing that could have happened to Halo. (Granted, it could also be an abject failure, but I'm optimistic)

Posted by YukoAsho

Everything I saw of Halo 4's campaign looked great, so I have to tell myself these reservations are merely the result of that pesky knee-jerk fear of things that are new and different.

This is exactly why I wouldn't wanna be working at 343. This game, fairly or no, is going to get ripped to shreds by fans. Different developer (albiet with Frank O'Conner still at the helm), and changes to a classic formula are sure to get people's knickers in a twist. There's no way they can please the whole fan base.

Posted by Roxasthirteen

@Duskwind: I can't see this game coming out before a Cortana porno is released.

Posted by Sevan
Posted by xMEGADETHxSLY

@mrsmiley: this is the capture lady

Posted by Dairypop4000

I talk alot of yang about the Halo franchise, but always get excited and buy the new ones. Looks like Halo 4 is no exception.

Posted by Ivoldir

For some reasons, the few videos I've seen of Halo 4 reminded me a little of Metroid Prime's environment and monsters (more precisely the new faction in Halo 4). Highly doubt it plays like a Metroid Prime game though, but the having the environment and monsters similar would definitively be a good reason for me to try it out. I'm probably wrong though.

Posted by WarlordPayne

@modshroom128 said:

The whole thing is based on equity, no one has any sort of advantage, everything is balanced.

That's not true. Arena shooters are just as imbalanced towards play time as shooters with an unlock system are. Knowing the ins and outs of map layout and weapon placement are essential in an arena shooter. If another player knows where all the power weapons are and you don't you're fucked, plain and simple.

Personally, I prefer an unlock system since I don't like scrounging for weapons so this is good for me, but it is screwing over the old fans so I understand why you're angry and it is totally justified.

What we can hope for is that they'll have different playlists that will strip out all the loadout stuff and play like the old Halo games so everyone can be happy. I think they did something like that for Reach, so it's not an unreasonable expectation. Let's hope for the best.

Posted by Phatmac

@modshroom128: Why not play the game first before writing it out completely? From what I've seen it looks really interesting. I love Bungie, but I really like the changes that have gone on in Halo 4 and the new weapons that were added. This game is also getting tested to hell so I bet that it won't unbalanced too much.

Posted by Trylks

@Metal_Mills said:

@Trylks said:

I keep my hope for boob physics, though.

Sigh...

What? It's just a nice part of the realism.

Posted by modshroom128

@Phatmac:

I agree, colors and quirks were MAJOR elements that made the original halo games so great.

but like brad wrote it's the "weirdness" that was awesome. All i see in 343's clusterfuck of no-taste is brown and bloom/seriousness.

I'm also really skeptical of their focus on maps designed for a "competitive" audience. I don't want grids and boxes all day with absurd map design, I want organic maps that feel like actual places like Bungie makes. That's really what I picture when I hear them designing maps for a competitive audience. I don't care about competing in a game, I play for fun and I like to win but that pleasure is derived from an immersive experience, not a detached FPS throwback to CS or TF.

Ughhh man also just the fact they included at least ONE quick time event shows they have no idea what they are doing. Instead of trying to take halo games into a more creative and awesome direction with more intuative design they are holding them back. Thinking that "oh MOAR weapons, we should have a tommy gun, oh and 2 different brs, oh and a whole new class of weapons called prometheans that way we can add in essentially what are clone guns over and over!" There is a reason as to why bungie stuck to the weapons they did and didn't add in a fuckton of new uncreative looking weapons.

343 won't be able to pull off bungie's subtle brilliances that made halo so great. and you can pick off a bunch of horrible "gritty" stylistic differences right off the bat. they won't even be able to replicate the original mood/feel of the halo games or make it better. they are just ruining one of the best series of all time. I mean Reach/odst was meant to milk the halo fans but at least those games milked us right.

Also the fact that 343 is introducing killstreaks, perks and upgrades to an ARENA SHOOTER LIKE HALO is just ridiculous. 343 is going out of their way to completely ruin the franchise by not letting all users start out on the same level in each multiplayer match. They are turning halo into pretty much everything bungie swore halo wouldn't turn into. Halo has always been an arena shooter, where you come to the arena alone, you get your weapons there, you progress there, and once you're done, you leave the arena and take nothing with you. The whole thing is based on equity, no one has any sort of advantage, everything is balanced.

Don't even get me started on the pre-order bonus skins. UGH

Before anyone says "THE CHANGES BETWEEN THE LAST HALO GAMES WERE DRASTIC TOO, SO WHAT IF WE GET BIG NEW CHANGES IN THIS ONE". You're talking about tweaks and additions, not a complete rewrite of the gameplay model. While Armor Abilities come close to that, we're talking here about people creating their own layouts, having special skills, and having their stuff behave very differently from someone else. We're talking about people carrying two primary weapons, having a fast recharging shield, carrying more ammo, having a better sensor, starting with two primary weapons (are they supposed to be better than secondary weapons?????), and still so much stuff to be revealed.

/mad

Posted by JBrosk89

@modshroom128 said:

Can't you all see?

343i ruined what made Halo "Halo".

From quick time events to the drone seriousness of the game itself, the company clearly has no idea what made the original halo trilogy so perfect. Since they can't make a "Halo" they just make "generic fps #23485 with slight halo elements left in from last games"

it's disgusting. it's literally disgusting what they are doing to bungie's masterpiece.

I do not think the original Halo trilogy was anywhere near "perfect." Halo 1 was new and inventive, Halo 2 added a much needed multiplayer but lacked in the campaign, Halo 3 was kinda bland all over...basically bringing the same old Halo onto the 360 platform. In terms of greatness, Halo 1 is clearly the best. They will never make a "Halo 2: Anniversary Edition" because no one will buy it, and the same could be said about Halo 3. I think a make over is what Halo needs to remain relevant. Who wants a game where, on earth, you float when you jump?

Posted by JBrosk89

If 343 modernizes Halo, in that the physics are much more realistic and the enemies are much more dark, I think this could have the chance to be the Halo game that makes Halo relevant again. If they keep the floaty combat, the idiotic at times enemy AI, and don't add a darker enemy mindset...I think this game will be what Halo is unfortunately known for by many, old. Reach started the "modernization" of a Halo title, keep going in that way 343.

Posted by modshroom128

Can't you all see?

343i ruined what made Halo "Halo".

From quick time events to the drone seriousness of the game itself, the company clearly has no idea what made the original halo trilogy so perfect. Since they can't make a "Halo" they just make "generic fps #23485 with slight halo elements left in from last games"

it's disgusting. it's literally disgusting what they are doing to bungie's masterpiece.

Posted by 8bitMunch

I honestly didn't think they would be able to pull this off, but everything I've seen looks amazing.

Posted by ManMadeGod

"You didn't want them to coast, right? You wanted them to do something original, didn't you? So suck it up and give it a chance." And so I shall."

Very important to keep in mind. Look at Zelda: too much stagnation can be a bummer. I rather they mix it up a bit even if not everything they try is a hit. So far I'm on board with Halo 4.

Posted by WrathOfBanja

I just can't bring myself to read anything by Brad anymore...

Edited by Duskwind

Judging from the new Cortana, I like this new "masturbate while you fight" approach 343 is taking with Halo 4.

Posted by DarthB

Already have it preordered. Going to be cool to see how 343 modernizes Halo. I hope they can pull it off.

Posted by peryton272

I can't wait for this game. It may be a little different than past Halo games but I think it'll be amazing.

Posted by Capum15
@CrossTheAtlantic: Yeah. I think in the book First Strike, she starts wondering about her life span due to everything she's learned from Halo. She ended up compressing all the knowledge and storing it for later in order to be more focused, or something like that. Been a while since I've read the books.
Posted by Metal_Mills
@Trylks said:

I keep my hope for boob physics, though.

Sigh...
Posted by Trylks

Cortana looking hot: great.

Boob physics: great, why not.

That face is creepy, as already pointed out. I'd prefer the face in Halo 3 than this: http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/15278/2329846-chobot_cortana.jpg

More like this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000449/ or this or this: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q586/EthanDavies/CortanaHalo.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_X1IWXuEbgXI/S0Bvfjem8wI/AAAAAAAAB8A/h45La6ksg4o/s640/cortana+halo+origins.jpg

Having said that, the face may be a win if the rampage and feelings are an important part of the story, this new face makes her look more vulnerable and unstable:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yWIbiTjSv5o/UEPKQospkJI/AAAAAAAAFLM/JylSFRiUcx0/s800/cortana.jpg

http://17f0418678386b4e6860-e4f9fcd924b589d19bf6ccc2802ea9aa.r66.cf1.rackcdn.com/e281afbea72c39dcb9c324a3b47bd418a0c5fa75.jpg__939x820_q85.jpg

Also, entering the uncanny valley seemed as necessary to have an expressive face that can display a wide range of emotions. The Superintendent is very expressive, as expressive as an emoticon set, but I guess going this way is cooler.

So... I'm just going to make a suspension of disbelief here and wait to play the game. It may be good, it may be not, only time will tell.

I keep my hope for boob physics, though. A little fanservice doesn't hurt. See ghost in the shell, greatest anime in history (IMHO), did the fanservice hurt? No, it just made it better.

Posted by Tsuchikage

I'm always excited for more Halo. I'm a big fan of the Halo storyline (in addition to the topnotch gameplay, of course) and am hoping 343 can take it in interesting new directions. Halo: Reach was fantastic--the highlight of the series for me, behind only Halo 2's amazing multiplayer--so 343 has to put out one hell of a game.

Posted by Sagalla

I tried to play Halo Reach for about half an hour before turning it off and feeling nauseous from the motion blur, never to play it again. I played through Halo 3 though and enjoyed it without issue, so can anyone tell me if it is as bad in Halo 4??

Posted by xMEGADETHxSLY

need this game

Posted by Troispoint

@sissylion: ...Thanks.

Posted by august

@Brad said:

@august said:

@bigstrat2003 said:

So... apparently rampancy is a thing in the Halo universe now? Because that was never how it worked before, that was a Marathon thing. In the Halo universe, a smart AI (like Cortana) just would think itself to death after ~7 years.

Maybe it's just Brad misunderstanding, but giving him the benefit of the doubt, I'm not feeling that upbeat about the story in this game if it's going to ignore previously established story material like that.

Cortana specifically mentions her limited lifespan in the e3 trailer.

There's no reason the two concepts can't co-exist in the Halo universe. Brad is probably just confusing the two. Her rampancy will probably be aided by, y'know... coming into contact with godlike Forerunner a.i.

*cough*

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Rampancy

Okay, looks like they've decided to conflate the two ideas.

Which is fine with me!

Edited by big_jon

@Brad said:

@august said:

@bigstrat2003 said:

So... apparently rampancy is a thing in the Halo universe now? Because that was never how it worked before, that was a Marathon thing. In the Halo universe, a smart AI (like Cortana) just would think itself to death after ~7 years.

Maybe it's just Brad misunderstanding, but giving him the benefit of the doubt, I'm not feeling that upbeat about the story in this game if it's going to ignore previously established story material like that.

Cortana specifically mentions her limited lifespan in the e3 trailer.

There's no reason the two concepts can't co-exist in the Halo universe. Brad is probably just confusing the two. Her rampancy will probably be aided by, y'know... coming into contact with godlike Forerunner a.i.

*cough*

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Rampancy

This has been a part of Halo for a long time now, it's not new to Halo 4.

I have read every Halo Book, I know a whole lot about the universe, Brad is right.

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